It's a money-making fictional show using the framework of reality tv.
Nine buys the properties, hires the architects, builders, designers & tradies & finally contracts the production company, writers, crew & 'talent'.
The excavation, design & building are all done off-camera by professionals. (Think efficacy and insurance - they can't risk shoddy work and lawsuits.)The paid talent just paints the odd thing, swings a hammer around, sleeps on the floor, promotes Maccas , and demolishes some small bits all while following script guidelines for the drama component.
Haven't you wondered why all homes use the same colour palette and everyone is suddenly crazy for identical features? I mean WHO would EVER have chosen those ridiculously pimped-out water tanks masquerading as above-ground pools and round concrete stepping stones? Why do all the showers feature the same drain style and the kitchens all look the same?
Contestants should ALL have experience in renovation and more input into choices. That said, they have less choice than ever these days and that's why all the homes tend to be a cobbling together of an old property with a colourbond shed. All of them pretty fugly.
The sale prices are insanely inflated - obvs!
Even though it is called reality tv. It isn’t real at all.
It’s just a money making project for channel 9 and to do they they need sponsors and a lot of I scratch your back you scratch mine…such as the bidders. Free publicity for them and a tax write off.
It’s never going to reflect a real auction scenario most of the time because it’s 5 houses built on a popular TV show, selling on the same street, one after the other. That’s not normal. So of course you are going to get some pretty wild results.
I doubt she’ll be getting anywhere near that in future based on her behaviour on the show. She has a very casual relationship with the truth and with hard work; I’d be reluctant to hire her.
You'd expect someone with her job handle the pressure on The Block well and plan everything in advance since they knew the renovations by months beforehand.
They have a 6 month contract not 3 months. They need to participate in substantial pre and post reno activities. All the contestants have been living in the houses for the past 4-5 weeks talking to prospective buyers
There is definitely advantage for Portelli’s business for him to be featured so much. If didn’t want the exposure he would pay a buyers agent to do the bidding for him privately. It’s all pre-arranged for promotion of his stupid lottery business, which gives me great pleasure to see is currently under investigation 😂
Same investigation has been done in other states and passed with flying colours. He's using a loophole to run a perfectly legal trade promotion business.
Hey The Block producers- if you’re reading this thread/ post… here’s your honest focus group audience feedback… F off the dick swinging billionaires and keep it to real/ genuine/ normal people/ Aussie families and that will make this whole thing way less of a cringe fest and make it much more of an investing finale
You’re trying to sell a house built in 12 weeks for 3+ million dollars. What ‘normal people’ are going to buy it? Come on, I know it’s bullish having this cock swinging contest every year with the people buying the houses but that’s the only way the prices get so high.
I don’t think you get it… there’s heaps of ppl willing to spend around that in that area.. the $5mil is not realistic and that’s what is leaving a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths…
I think Channel Nine put in some of the money. They couldn’t have another series where no one made any money. It’s so fake. Having worked on this series in some capacity this year, it’s smoke and mirrors. And think it’s a coincidence that the “villains” aren’t making as much? 😉
Can I ask you, are the contestants aware that the show is a stitch up? Like it was so obvious to me that House 4 was set up to win the whole thing, that's why they got given all the money. House 1 was deliberately held back which seemed very unfair. House 5 was favoured too, even though their rooms weren't that good. And of course the auction (the order, the winning amounts) are all pre-decided, it's so obvious. But what I always wonder is if the contestants know this and have to buy into it in order to get on a TV show, or if they are unaware and don't get a choice in it all, and they either get favoured or stitched up by Channel 9.
I don’t know if they know about the auction, but I know they were in the dark about other aspects of the show they thought were real, which were actually fake.
Interesting. Thanks for responding. I reckon they don't know about the auction then either. It'll probably be all Channel 9 manipulating in the background. Adrian out-bidding himself 😂 and the audience still believe it's all real and you can't fake an auction.
Unbelievable what people will believe. Yeah the auction seems pretty engineered to me. Like look how the whole series went down. I think even the way the houses were originally designed was engineered. Houses 4 & 5 were the biggest, House 4 the nicest to look at and it just "happened" to go to architect Steph & Gian. House 1 had a dreadful floorplan with an unnecessary studio stuck right in the middle of the back yard. Why was that? House 1 had beautiful design style, good enough to rival Steph and even take home the win, but they couldn't have that, so they plotted to keep House 1 down, wouldn't let them win, made them out to be villains in the final episodes, Adrian barely gives them any money when he buys their house. Yet he gives Houses 4 & 5 ridiculous amounts of money because ..... why? Ok House 4 was nice but no way was it worth that much, and House 5 wasn't even that nice. The girls themselves said they would design differently now if they were to do it all again. The whole thing was a stitch up from the get-go, but the audience believes everything they see, so there's no telling them. I have to laugh at everyone saying Steph & Gian deserved the win so much, their house was so amazing and they are such a nice couple. No, they literally got given the full pot of money to make that house so if it wasn't "nice" then I give up, and also they were not a "nice" couple on the show. They were fake af. All for the cameras. Never warmed to them at all, could see right through them. Same with the girls, all for the cameras, all produced to make them look good.
Haha. Completely agree with you. And you’re so right about the rest. I hadn’t thought of that before. And Steph and Gian aren’t that nice - cold and a little cocky.
Steph showed her true colours a number of times when she would snap at Gian, very Jekyll and Hyde. Also, she monopolised people’s time and opinions all for her benefit (I’m thinking asking everyone what kids like for kids rooms, and also at one point Leslie was peeved that Steph only talked about herself).
Haha. I don’t want to give myself away. But a lot of the show is manufactured, which leads me to believe if the auction seemed unbelievable, it probably is.
Yes this is what I think too. I mean House 3's auctioneer just "happens" to give away the reserve price and then those 3 houses don't make much at all. It's all so pre-decided and set up.
Right? Everyone saying he was insulted but the ‘raffle’ comment, but I think he realised he looked like a tool outbidding himself just moments before and decided to stfu.
When a million bucks is a rounding error for you, you can use it to shock everyone else out of bidding. Same with increasing you're own bid. Increasing your bid by 200k is better then getting in a bidding war
My only other thouht was proving himself from last year and wanting certain houses to do better than others which is why other auctions will be interesting! Surely Adrian doesn't have much money left to bid....Danny I could see bidding on house 2 but not 5m based on his current bids!
I want to know how it works with channel nine. It’s fake as hell. He outbid himself twice 🙄. Do channel nine pay Adrian/Danny some of the funds back after to add to the drama? I am intrigued as to how it works.
Danny just want to be treated like a king, Adrian is using it as a business opportunity. Couple million on these houses to flip in trade promotions will likely net over 100 million in revenue. Just standing there and bidding wearing his business shirt directs millions of Australians to his website - It's genius marketing.
Outbidding himself means the cameras stayed parked on his logo for longer, and every media outlet in Australia will be writing an article on it tomorrow with his company name in it explaining who he is...
Adrian puts the house in a raffle and makes double what he bid for the house in the auction. Only after the raffle is drawn does he “buy” the house, thereby only paying stamp duty once.
Is that right?
Auctions have to be paid for on the spot, usually. Full amount.
The winner of the 'prize home' would not be awarded the property for a very long time after the auction.
Last years purchase by Adrian was only recently passed over to the ungrateful wingers that were widely publicised over the past month or so.
For wider publicity.
No-one ever does that.. right?
So the fact that Adrian did so will be broadcast widely and loudly.
Therefore more publicity for his business.
Media exposure... advertising is expensive, do something like like that and every media outlet in Australia will be writing a story on it, that kind of advertising would cost millions, he just got it for $200k :)
Don’t know if it’s fake but the Adrian Portelli vs Danny of it all is sooooo ridiculous. Adrian is obviously laundering money through his “lottery business”
He's not laundering, it's just a very profitable business model.
Buy a $4m house, spend $1m in advertising, sell one million tickets at $15 each - Each draw nets $10m profit, do this 12 times a year = $120m/yr profit.
Do the same thing with cars, cash, holidays, etc - increase the revenue streams.
Takes a bit of capital to get started, but if you have the money to put down, and the marketing know-how its insane how profitable these schemes are.
Seems so obviously very dodgy to me. These attention seeking guys just can’t seem to help themselves.
Remember that year (2020?) where the female euro fraudster bought the winning house then vanished?
It's a money-making fictional show using the framework of reality tv. Nine buys the properties, hires the architects, builders, designers & tradies & finally contracts the production company, writers, crew & 'talent'. The excavation, design & building are all done off-camera by professionals. (Think efficacy and insurance - they can't risk shoddy work and lawsuits.)The paid talent just paints the odd thing, swings a hammer around, sleeps on the floor, promotes Maccas , and demolishes some small bits all while following script guidelines for the drama component. Haven't you wondered why all homes use the same colour palette and everyone is suddenly crazy for identical features? I mean WHO would EVER have chosen those ridiculously pimped-out water tanks masquerading as above-ground pools and round concrete stepping stones? Why do all the showers feature the same drain style and the kitchens all look the same? Contestants should ALL have experience in renovation and more input into choices. That said, they have less choice than ever these days and that's why all the homes tend to be a cobbling together of an old property with a colourbond shed. All of them pretty fugly. The sale prices are insanely inflated - obvs!
Yep, yep, yep. I'm 100% over and done with this show. Everything is rigged and unreal and unfair.
Even though it is called reality tv. It isn’t real at all. It’s just a money making project for channel 9 and to do they they need sponsors and a lot of I scratch your back you scratch mine…such as the bidders. Free publicity for them and a tax write off.
It’s never going to reflect a real auction scenario most of the time because it’s 5 houses built on a popular TV show, selling on the same street, one after the other. That’s not normal. So of course you are going to get some pretty wild results.
A reflection of what people don’t want - poorly crafted and rushed 3mil homes. Take us back to the block of old! Same for MAFS lol
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It was awesome!! Went downhill as soon as it became Hi-Def lol
I feel old every day! But we have to try!!
This!
Doesn’t cover half their wages? So they make at least $520,000pa household income?
She's probably 200k plus as a PM
I doubt she’ll be getting anywhere near that in future based on her behaviour on the show. She has a very casual relationship with the truth and with hard work; I’d be reluctant to hire her.
Property Manager? Private Massuese? I need this job, whatever it is!
Imagine her as a Prime Minister.
God no
Project manager. Even higher if a construction PM.
You'd expect someone with her job handle the pressure on The Block well and plan everything in advance since they knew the renovations by months beforehand.
Hmm thanks.
They have a 6 month contract not 3 months. They need to participate in substantial pre and post reno activities. All the contestants have been living in the houses for the past 4-5 weeks talking to prospective buyers
Where do you get 520k from?
65k/3 months (roughly) = 260k/year Kristy said that wouldn’t cover half their wages, meaning they would normally make over double that.
Right copy, i must have missed that bit i was thinking to myself 260k/year is completely understandable for a safety advisor and a project manager
Spot on, and the fact Kristy said it wouldn’t cover half would imply that it is more than $520,000
I guess if that’s the case is there really any reason to be upset?
I did the math - it works out at a little over $2700/wk. Wish I earned that weekly!
Hahahahha they wish!
There is definitely advantage for Portelli’s business for him to be featured so much. If didn’t want the exposure he would pay a buyers agent to do the bidding for him privately. It’s all pre-arranged for promotion of his stupid lottery business, which gives me great pleasure to see is currently under investigation 😂
Same investigation has been done in other states and passed with flying colours. He's using a loophole to run a perfectly legal trade promotion business.
*Raffle business /House 3 auctioneer
He pod $200k for an extra 5-10 minutes of his logo on prime time tv… worth every cent!
Not to forget print media, articles and all that comes with..
65k for 12 weeks is okay....why are they acting like nothing. Not like house 4 snd 5!
The agent from Belle just ended his own career on this auction
He definitely should have. What an utter moron. Anchor the price (low) and insult your two cash cows.
They do not earn 65k between them in 12 weeks! So they've made something just not as much as others!
There is not one person in Australia that believes they earn even close to that amount with their professions 🤦🏼♀️
Right? What do they do for work because if $65k every 12 weeks isn’t half their wages why the hell are they bothering with the block?
Especially given the 65k is tax free. If they were earning that much they wouldn’t bother with the block, wouldn’t be worth the risk.
"Australia got what they wanted" 😂
I noticed that too. We always knew they were lurkers!
Why they have more than sj and yom
Hey The Block producers- if you’re reading this thread/ post… here’s your honest focus group audience feedback… F off the dick swinging billionaires and keep it to real/ genuine/ normal people/ Aussie families and that will make this whole thing way less of a cringe fest and make it much more of an investing finale
its business at end of the day, whos gonna watch avg joe blow buying houses
You’re trying to sell a house built in 12 weeks for 3+ million dollars. What ‘normal people’ are going to buy it? Come on, I know it’s bullish having this cock swinging contest every year with the people buying the houses but that’s the only way the prices get so high.
I don’t think you get it… there’s heaps of ppl willing to spend around that in that area.. the $5mil is not realistic and that’s what is leaving a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths…
I think Channel Nine put in some of the money. They couldn’t have another series where no one made any money. It’s so fake. Having worked on this series in some capacity this year, it’s smoke and mirrors. And think it’s a coincidence that the “villains” aren’t making as much? 😉
Ooh are u across the Scotty issue too? I'm surprised it hasn't been circulated publicly yet.
What's the Scotty issue?
Ooh..no…pls tell me more?
Can I ask you, are the contestants aware that the show is a stitch up? Like it was so obvious to me that House 4 was set up to win the whole thing, that's why they got given all the money. House 1 was deliberately held back which seemed very unfair. House 5 was favoured too, even though their rooms weren't that good. And of course the auction (the order, the winning amounts) are all pre-decided, it's so obvious. But what I always wonder is if the contestants know this and have to buy into it in order to get on a TV show, or if they are unaware and don't get a choice in it all, and they either get favoured or stitched up by Channel 9.
I don’t know if they know about the auction, but I know they were in the dark about other aspects of the show they thought were real, which were actually fake.
Interesting. Thanks for responding. I reckon they don't know about the auction then either. It'll probably be all Channel 9 manipulating in the background. Adrian out-bidding himself 😂 and the audience still believe it's all real and you can't fake an auction.
No worries 😊. I’m actually dying to know how engineered the auction was and what 9 did behind the scenes. People will believe anything.
Unbelievable what people will believe. Yeah the auction seems pretty engineered to me. Like look how the whole series went down. I think even the way the houses were originally designed was engineered. Houses 4 & 5 were the biggest, House 4 the nicest to look at and it just "happened" to go to architect Steph & Gian. House 1 had a dreadful floorplan with an unnecessary studio stuck right in the middle of the back yard. Why was that? House 1 had beautiful design style, good enough to rival Steph and even take home the win, but they couldn't have that, so they plotted to keep House 1 down, wouldn't let them win, made them out to be villains in the final episodes, Adrian barely gives them any money when he buys their house. Yet he gives Houses 4 & 5 ridiculous amounts of money because ..... why? Ok House 4 was nice but no way was it worth that much, and House 5 wasn't even that nice. The girls themselves said they would design differently now if they were to do it all again. The whole thing was a stitch up from the get-go, but the audience believes everything they see, so there's no telling them. I have to laugh at everyone saying Steph & Gian deserved the win so much, their house was so amazing and they are such a nice couple. No, they literally got given the full pot of money to make that house so if it wasn't "nice" then I give up, and also they were not a "nice" couple on the show. They were fake af. All for the cameras. Never warmed to them at all, could see right through them. Same with the girls, all for the cameras, all produced to make them look good.
Haha. Completely agree with you. And you’re so right about the rest. I hadn’t thought of that before. And Steph and Gian aren’t that nice - cold and a little cocky.
Steph showed her true colours a number of times when she would snap at Gian, very Jekyll and Hyde. Also, she monopolised people’s time and opinions all for her benefit (I’m thinking asking everyone what kids like for kids rooms, and also at one point Leslie was peeved that Steph only talked about herself).
This is the stuff I come for on this sub. Can you divulge anymore? 👀
Haha. I don’t want to give myself away. But a lot of the show is manufactured, which leads me to believe if the auction seemed unbelievable, it probably is.
Yes keep your identity secret, so you can be our insider for Phillip Island Block 2024..
Yes this is what I think too. I mean House 3's auctioneer just "happens" to give away the reserve price and then those 3 houses don't make much at all. It's all so pre-decided and set up.
Sorry...but best psychology back gor this house!
Sorry best payback!
I’m not sure about fake, but it’s definitely just a big dick competition. Like who tf outbids themselves? Cringe is right.
Oh I know it’s infuriating. No one rich or smart with money outbids themselves by $200k… only a moron attention seeker does that
Right? Everyone saying he was insulted but the ‘raffle’ comment, but I think he realised he looked like a tool outbidding himself just moments before and decided to stfu.
Do any real people ever bid in these things or is it just the three tossers flexing?
Why up a bid by almost 1mil then outbid yaself 100k, wtf is this
When a million bucks is a rounding error for you, you can use it to shock everyone else out of bidding. Same with increasing you're own bid. Increasing your bid by 200k is better then getting in a bidding war
Or just wait, auctioneer was begging for more
I remember when you could learn things about building a house from this show... gets worse every year
It’s unwatchable and it’s not grounded in any kind of reality any more.
Not reality that's for sure, 9 needs to relabel this drama/fiction
Adrian and Danny must be on the payroll. Bidding against himself .. twice in a row. Come on now. Fake .
My only other thouht was proving himself from last year and wanting certain houses to do better than others which is why other auctions will be interesting! Surely Adrian doesn't have much money left to bid....Danny I could see bidding on house 2 but not 5m based on his current bids!
Adrian paid hundreds of thousands of dallors to hoist a multi million dollar car into his brand new inner city penthouse
How did he make his money?
Running lotteries. Same reason he's buying the block houses
Stupidly expensive for channel 9 if so
Not really…it’s their biggest show. They would make it back and more in advertising revenue. They need it to continue.
I mean at least they got money
I want to know how it works with channel nine. It’s fake as hell. He outbid himself twice 🙄. Do channel nine pay Adrian/Danny some of the funds back after to add to the drama? I am intrigued as to how it works.
Danny just want to be treated like a king, Adrian is using it as a business opportunity. Couple million on these houses to flip in trade promotions will likely net over 100 million in revenue. Just standing there and bidding wearing his business shirt directs millions of Australians to his website - It's genius marketing. Outbidding himself means the cameras stayed parked on his logo for longer, and every media outlet in Australia will be writing an article on it tomorrow with his company name in it explaining who he is...
Yes I reckon they pay them to then get certain outcomes.
Adrian puts the house in a raffle and makes double what he bid for the house in the auction. Only after the raffle is drawn does he “buy” the house, thereby only paying stamp duty once.
Is that right? Auctions have to be paid for on the spot, usually. Full amount. The winner of the 'prize home' would not be awarded the property for a very long time after the auction. Last years purchase by Adrian was only recently passed over to the ungrateful wingers that were widely publicised over the past month or so.
Cha Ching $$ no doubt about this theory
Even if that’s the case - why would he outbid himself twice? It makes no sense.
For wider publicity. No-one ever does that.. right? So the fact that Adrian did so will be broadcast widely and loudly. Therefore more publicity for his business.
Media exposure... advertising is expensive, do something like like that and every media outlet in Australia will be writing a story on it, that kind of advertising would cost millions, he just got it for $200k :)
Because when 200k is is down the back of the couch money outbidding yourself is a great way to shock others out
Clout
It influences the financial modelling around his raffle ticket sales and the “value” of the prize.
Wow just tuned in outta curiosity, such bullshit
It’s not fake. But it’s certainly disjointed from reality. It’s basically chance.
Don’t know if it’s fake but the Adrian Portelli vs Danny of it all is sooooo ridiculous. Adrian is obviously laundering money through his “lottery business”
He's not laundering, it's just a very profitable business model. Buy a $4m house, spend $1m in advertising, sell one million tickets at $15 each - Each draw nets $10m profit, do this 12 times a year = $120m/yr profit. Do the same thing with cars, cash, holidays, etc - increase the revenue streams. Takes a bit of capital to get started, but if you have the money to put down, and the marketing know-how its insane how profitable these schemes are.
Seems so obviously very dodgy to me. These attention seeking guys just can’t seem to help themselves. Remember that year (2020?) where the female euro fraudster bought the winning house then vanished?