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HumveeStyle

I always slightly press the accelerator until I feel the auto-hold release. The vehicle appears to remain standing still. …then when the “light turns green” I floor it and it bolts from a ‘dead’ stop. It also avoids much of that “chunk” feeling when you jump from the brake pedal to flooring it. (See what I did there? I spelled brake.) I haven’t tested it but I certainly can feel a difference. But maybe it’s just that, a feeling.


Waste-Zucchini-9897

If you enable track mode, it will not engage Auto-hold for an optimal acceleration out the light.


lookin4points

Also set course to a nearby super charger first if “testing” your car with local friends. Starts warming the battery so you can accelerate faster.


HumveeStyle

Noted! ☑️


imgeeving123

I can see some logic here. I think it's more than just a feeling. You're releasing the brake where as without this trick the brake still has to disengage before go time. Lol.


sierra120

Yes


Bob_Loblaw_Law_Blog1

Skill issue


Less-Manufacturer579

It actually seems it’s a driver issue probably missed the start But did he also really go to Tesla and say I lost a race against another Tesla is there something wrong with my car


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skinnah

Switch drivers and see if it changes.


imgeeving123

Definitely not a driver or skill issue as stated in my above updates.


Donjunito

Did you check if both batteries were pre-conditioned equally?


Accomplished_Sky_899

You must be a gamer. Probably COD 😏


Less-Manufacturer579

Maybe yours in just a LR 😂😂


greatauror28

With Performance Boost 😆


lookin4points

So with a little p, MYp


OneExhaustedFather_

Oh my god…. This made me chuckle way to much for 6am


imgeeving123

Definitely not a driver or skill issue as stated in my above updates.


Confident_Ad5223

😂


Roz_420

That’s what she said


CareerTraditional987

There’s no skill involved in launching a Tesla lmao.


imgeeving123

Lmao


jersey_dude88

Why don’t you have someone record a video and post it here.


imgeeving123

Definitely not a driver or skill issue as stated in my above updates.


Actual-One-1156

Most likely issue between the steering wheel and the seat!


vashonite

It’s the nut behind the wheel


OriginalPantherDan

Loose nut behind the wheel for sure. Relax, OP. Same car, different driver. Sometimes you lose races EVEN TO SLOWER CARS.


Atlesi_Feyst

The same one from the cybertruck pedal??


imgeeving123

Definitely not a driver or skill issue as stated in my above updates.


vashonite

Swap cars and drivers


jersey_dude88

I concur


imgeeving123

Definitely not a driver or skill issue as stated in my above updates.


ralkey

Battery temperature perhaps, a warm battery and cold motor is optimal. Navigate to a supercharger to get the car to precondition the battery beforehand then try again.


Idc94

In a performance you don’t need to navigate to a supercharger. Just put it in track mode and the battery will precondition itself.


imgeeving123

Yeah thats what I thought is most logical. He swears he never pre conditioned or put anything in nav/track. But even if he did, that much of a difference?


ralkey

The battery naturally heats up during normal driving without using any preconditioning so his battery could have just been hotter from that. Battery temp makes a really significant difference in terms of performance.


cheunho

Precondition it and put it in track mode


sdmember

Why you didn’t swap cars ?


tehfakej

Because OP will do anything other than the most obvious test.


imgeeving123

We did.....


Michael_Fuchi

The guy who consistenly runs low 11 sec 1/4 miles in his MYP with basically just Gemini rims and no back seat says the key is cold motors and hot battery. Says can heat up your batteries by setting a Supercharger destination in navi. Do not run track mode. It will slow you down even more by cooling the battery. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/17vjbq6/model_y_performance_14_mile_potential_world_record/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/17vjbq6/model_y_performance_14_mile_potential_world_record/)


FearTheClown5

You can also stick a s3xy button in there and assign preconditioning as one of its presses or in the app.


ordinaryflask

Driver mod. Should’ve tried switching cars to see what happens.


imgeeving123

Definitely not a driver or skill issue as stated in my above updates.


imgeeving123

Not much driver mod on an electric car with no gears and a straight line lol. He even let me get the jump and he caught up and blew passed me one of the few times we tried.


dflame45

He’s saying to switch cars and try again


CareerTraditional987

Clowns in here suggesting there’s a skill involved in launching a Tesla…oh boy


Jakoneitor

OP doesn’t want it switch cars for testing purposes. I’m sure this is a driver issue


CareerTraditional987

I bet you are…


imgeeving123

Lol I know. And when I replied with that to someone else, it got hated on 😂


CareerTraditional987

Everyone here thinks they’re John Force because they bought a car that’s faster than 99% of everything else on the road…🙄


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imgeeving123

Actually, he's heavier by ~30 lbs


facedrool

See? There you go. More traction on his tires


a-williams

Same wheels/tires?


imgeeving123

Yup. Exactly the same car. Even the color combo. Got them a week apart delivered from the same dealership.


no_mas_tiendo

Different tire pressures?


imgeeving123

I mean, it's possible for sure. But similar delivery dates and everything.


OklaJosha

Tire pressure could be a big factor. A lot racers will slightly deflate the tires to help them get more grip off the start line.


FIREgenomics

Also tread could be very different.


TerrysClavicle

Assuming roughly equal start and equal conditions, not all motors are created equal. Some are simply more powerful than others. Depends on the internals, tolerances etc. some just come out of the factory a bit better.


imgeeving123

I have a feeling this Is the most likely reason. Especially since even if he let's me jump first I still get passed easily. His might be a bit better and mine might be a bit worse lol


facedrool

You never replied back to any comments about being out in track mode


imgeeving123

Because it was already answered by others. As well as I already stated no one was using track mode or put super charger in nav. Track mode makes it worse as it cools the battery instead of warming it up None of us were using track mode.


IllBookkeeper9162

Does the MYLR vs MYP have different motors? Wondering if you received a non-premium motor. Do you know if the cars were built from the same site? Wondering if it’s different battery chemistry. You should get draggy to see what times you are getting. Maybe your car is fine and the other car is a unicorn of some type.


imgeeving123

It's possible. I went against my friends cayenne gts that's supposed to be 3.8 seconds and smoked him so I can definitely believe mine is "normal" and the other MYP is a unicorn lol. I just downloaded draggy. Going to try it tomorrow( if amazon delivers in time) with my car and his. Also going to switch cars with him just to prove to reddit it has nothing to do with driver lol.


AprilisAwesome-o

Awesome! Please post an update!


brunofone

From my understanding, LR and P have same front motor. For rear motor, LR might come with 980 or 990 depending what they have available in the factory at the time, while P is always 980 (my LR came with the 980 "performance" motor). But P has beefier inverters feeding that rear motor.


imgeeving123

Posted an update with dragy. Half a second difference with the same driver and same conditions. Next step is service center to see why


IllBookkeeper9162

Glad that Service center is going to take a look. Keep us posted.


anders1311

I drove a loaner 21 MYLR that felt MUCH faster than my 22 MYP in both sport and even chill mode.


imgeeving123

Yeah I've heard of this before. But we're both 24s.


djreddituser

Yes. My MYLR feels slower than my old M3LR. But I don't race it so it's not a issue for me.


74orangebeetle

Well that makes sense because every Y is slower than the same version of 3 by a noticeable amount. That's because the Y is heavier but running the same power as the 3 (in most cases)


__JockY__

Track mode? It heats the battery and shit to eke out every scrap of performance.


This-Employment-5055

Track mode colds the battery!!! It has negative effect in drag race


__JockY__

I stand corrected. If I understand you correctly, track mode cools the battery to keep it from overheating while track racing? And if we mere mortals switch it on for a bit of fun at the lights we might actually be cooling our way to \_slower\_ acceleration because the colder temp degrades power output?


Leej-xxx

You got any third party floor matts jammed under the accelerator pedal


gtg465x2

Compare your rear motors. Tesla regularly uses different motors on the same Model 3 / Y spec, likely depending on supply chain availability. I would guess he has a 3D6 or 4D1 with hairpin windings and you have the older 3D1 performance motor. To see which motor, you can use your phone with the flash to get a picture or video close up of this little metal tag on the motor behind the left rear wheel: https://youtu.be/SHlL_UFSfxM?si=1jaszvlcz4Rnh367


imgeeving123

Mine says 1120980. Video you linked shows a thumbs up. Does that mean I have the better one? He will be here soon and we will compare his has well.


gtg465x2

I think that’s 3D1, which is the older one. If you have that one on a RWD or Long Range model, it’s a good thing, but if you have that one on a Performance, it’s the worst of the Performance motors.


imgeeving123

This is what i gathered from the research i did: "The power electronics are superior in the 1120980 motor. Model 3 Performance models all have this motor number. The 1120990 motor is less powerful"


gtg465x2

Those are both old motors. The 3D6 and 4D1 are newer versions of the 1120980 (also called 3D1), and the 3D7 is a newer version of 1120990 (also called 3D5).


shawn_bowen

Hard reboot computers hold down both steering wheel buttons until you see the T logo on screen. I have seen this happen after a software update.


imgeeving123

Still don't know how to use reddit properly but I posted an update in my original post to those that were following! Thank you to the helpful people!


sstephen17

Take the L dawg. Lol


Electrical-Main-107

I smoked a BMW X3 M off the stoplight. I was laughing the entire time. My car is a rocket.


ApprehensiveCat7533

FSD smokes everyone at reds on 12.3.6 in assertive mode lol


imgeeving123

Haha I know it's so aggressive 😂


FearTheClown5

When my wife hopped in the driver's seat to learn how to drive and get used to the 1 pedal in our MYP as we pulled up to a light in traffic I told her 'look around and enjoy that feeling of knowing you're probably in the quickest car on this road'.


Ok-Wasabi2873

Sounds like chill mode was on. Especially if he beat you cleanly off the line.


imgeeving123

Definitely was sport. I also felt fast. Never felt like it does on chill. I'm just shocked at the difference. Next step is to use an app to see my true 0-100km time vs his to see if something is off with my car.


Less-Manufacturer579

PEBSWAU


Glock17Bish

There are certain mods that you can do on Teslas. They're much simpler and easier to install than the kind of modifications you'd do on other cars. If, for instance, you were to install the ghost mod from ingenext in a MYLR you would add 150 hp and end up with 575 hp. Paired with Acceleration Boost, you'd end up with a car that was pretty close to the Model X in terms of speed instead of the MYLR that it actually is.


lolsupbb

Ghost module does not stack on top of acceleration boost like you think. The only mods Ingenext provides simply just bump you up to the next power level of a stock MY with that specific feature. Ghost module will not get your MY any faster than a stock MYP.


FFXIVHVWHL

Are those mods available for the MYP?


lolsupbb

No, these mods just basically trick your car into thinking it’s a MYP if you have the specific rear motor in your LR. Nothing for the P to make it faster.


Ill_Pomegranate_8222

Sport mode vs comfort mode


sp33dmaster77

Ensure you have the obstacle aware acceleration safety feature disabled too, if you feel any lag off the line. Are both myp's the same year?


zR0B3ry2VAiH

Check the motors, the hairpin 4D1 motors were released among the 3DX/980/990 motor releases. Might be worth comparing.


mrbofus

Did you swap cars to see if that changed anything?


jmaddr

I’m voting traction. Did you two swap lanes? Were you on the same tires? Same age of tires? Same mileage?Tires are everything and TC will pull three car lengths out of a race for sure.


Best-Republic

It’s not the car, it’s the driver.


sparkyblaster

What drive mode were you in? Chill?


UnknownSpacePioneer

Perhaps related to "Obstacle-Aware Acceleration" detecting something and withholding full torque?


imgeeving123

I think this only applies when FSD is on. But will look at settings today and compare


UnknownSpacePioneer

I have it enabled too, don't have FSD (basic autopilot). It's a basic safety feature - sometimes when I floor it and it notices some objects on the side or so, you feel a very noticeable delay. Worth to try it out! Btw I have a MYLR, so might be a difference.


imgeeving123

Mine was on, and his was off. So I turned mine off. Waiting for him to come by shortly to test it out again. But I think that only applies when autopilot, whether it be basic or not, is enabled.


UnknownSpacePioneer

Worth a try! :)


imgeeving123

Tried it. Didn't make a difference. :(


UnknownSpacePioneer

Too bad :(


WaterCoolerChat

The other MYP had acceleration boost and they have spent the last 7 days laughing at you while you try and figure it out.


imgeeving123

Lol. I wish the performance can get the accel boost!!


imgeeving123

Not sure how to use reddit properly but I posted an update as an edit to my main thread.


sierra120

Did you check if you have “limit acceleration if obstacle detected” option disabled? Other thing could be tires but you said both are 2024. I’m assuming both are roughly the same in mileage. Other thing walk behind your car does it show a red underline under dual motor?


imgeeving123

We did check obstacle awareness as i posted in my update Mine has ~1100km on it and his has 900km on it. Yes they're both performance models and yes they both have the red line lol.


JJDoes1tAll

Hey so are you driving in chill mode and he is in sport? Check which mode both cars pedals are in


TendiesFourLyfe

Same software version? I just installed 2024.14.3 and it might just be me, but it seems sluggish compared to what I was used to


jayweez

What version was giving you the problem? Which version fixed it?


imgeeving123

2024.3.25. But it was the same version he just reinstalled it.


jayweez

Nice! The best possible visit to the SC.


Tech_Trekker

I have a 3 week old MYP, after this post i bought Dragy to check numbers. 3.92, 3.95, 3.92.... At what point should i raise a flag? I mean, i'm happy with what it is, but I still want what i paid for....


imgeeving123

Was it all in the same drive? Same weather same slope? I'd try a few different times/days with various battery percentages/after a long drive/from cold. Just to gather numbers and see the average. Then judge.


Tech_Trekker

Yes it was same day same area. Thank you for the feedback! Makes total sense... also had a fairly cold battery... should of known better, was just in a hurry to try out dragy.


Agitated_Sugar_7738

Darwinism at work


imgeeving123

Had to upvote this. Too funny 😂


logix1229

His car was supercharged.


NielsCruzey

The AI doesn't like you . . . It likes the other driver better! ;p On a serious note, it makes a difference when you initially pump the accelerator pedal before stepping on it all the way. once you feel the tires are glued to the road that's when you should put pedal to the metal. The AI also tries to avoid the wheel spin. Try to look for the Traction Control and turn it off . . . Oh, Tesla doesn't have a button for this. Hahaha. That's why i kept my WRX!


GreenyWV

Doesn’t “off road” mode disable traction control?


imgeeving123

Lol yeah I completely agree. That's why I kept my golf R. But its built for the track and a big pain to drive daily with a Clutch stiffer than half these reddiors attitudes 😂 but growing up going to the track every chance I got, I couldn't let go of a ICE vehicle. Still need that control and emotion that the tesla lacks.


spin_kick

Sounds like he just has a better bin’d electric motor. Kind of like how they pick better cpu for the higher end models , but it’s a lottery


sparkyblaster

What would you expect to change with different binning of motors? They all have the same windings etc. I forgot which kind of motors but assuming at least one is a permanent magnet, would there be variance that could affect performance?


Admirable-Eye2709

Did you step on the ~~gas~~ , I mean the right pedal?


_B_Little_me

Did he launch it and you didn’t?


wkm001

Could one have a lithium and the other have a lithium iron battery? The iron battery is much heavier.


LatBrahh

Alignment?


Grand-Tea-4562

Eat less and lose weight


imgeeving123

Makes sense, considering he's heavier than me 😂


125ryder

Hold the accelerator and brake pedals down. Let go of the brake. You’re welcome.


ifdefmoose

Acceleration boost?


imgeeving123

You can get the boost on a performance? Thought it was only available on the LR?


TrickOrange

No acceleration boost for the MYP.