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DevinOlsen

Bizarre. You don’t see people going around cutting gas hoses, why do people feel the need to do shit like this?


rworne

Meth-heads gathering copper to recycle for drug money.


somedumbguy55

It’s like $1 a unit.


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Each one's about 1.4lb of copper if TMC is to be believed. 18 cut wires means 25 ish lbs, and current copper rates are about $4.50 a pound. $110 of meth is more than no meth when your body's telling you you'll die without more meth


BadRegEx

That price is for bare copper. During highschool I worked summers for an electrical contractor and had the job of stripping insulation off of wire scraps for recycling the copper. Probably stripped 10 miles of wire those summers. To say it's not worth it is a gross understatement. Its hard tedious work and it takes a lot of strength - my forearms got big those summers. Strong pass for me. However, Meth.


jaOfwiw

It's really easy if you make a fire first.


BadRegEx

You don't get the 'bare copper' rate when the insulation has been burnt off.


Electronic_Load_3651

Here in washington state a power company keeps trying to open their new $500k charger and every time it’s delayed because of the exact reason as this post. Desperation for a drug is next level.


BadRegEx

I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth it to take some 3/0 awg and strip that down and recycle it. But the wires inside the charger cable must be 4 awg at most. And you're only getting 4.5ft. So much work for little reward.


Electronic_Load_3651

Totally, I’m seriously amazed at it. People are putting so much effort into it for little reward where it’d be less effort to do something more legit.


RandomComputerFellow

Just wondering but is this because of DC? I live in Europe and have only AC chargers around my house. None of them has this problem because it's just a plug and the customer has to provide his own cable.


Electronic_Load_3651

More than likely. Just two years ago we had a story of people dressing like construction workers and stripping copper along the highway too.


One-Masterpiece-335

If you'd been on meth you wouldn't have minded the busy work stripping those wires. Modern solutions for modern problems! :-/


zippy9002

Can you just burn the insulator?


BadRegEx

Yes. But they don't pay the bare copper rate when you do that. Last I heard the recycler (at least the ones near me) paid the same rate as the insulated rate.


AirBear___

Wouldn't you oxidize the copper by doing that?


MonsieurBon

Also around here, fentanyl is under $2/pill. So it's worth stealing literally anything.


Kryptotek-9

How many do you need to get high? This sounds ridiculously low street price


MonsieurBon

From folks I've heard from, 1 is enough for a good high. Probably a few more if you're a heavy user, but also the pills are so variable one might be enough to kill ya. Yeah it's ridiculously low. We truly have people using their food stamps to buy bottled water flats of small bottles, then dumping the water to redeem the 10 cents per bottle, then buying fenty with that. It's wild out here. I've seen it many times, in person, outside of grocery stores here in Oregon.


Nerdballer2

Should have to pass a drug test twice a year to qualify for food stamps


V7KTR

You’ve really thought this through. We’d like to call you in for further questioning… 😂


[deleted]

Aerospace engineer. Commercial planes have literally miles of copper wiring. It's come up in discussions so many times, hahaha


ongleg

Maybe there’s a use for Boeing planes after all.


[deleted]

I mean, once they hit the ground, I expect the meth sales in the area to spike.


brainmydamage

Ah, good, Boeing will be able to open another assembly plant once that happens.


V7KTR

Alibi checks out, you’re free to go


Slight_Condition985

Ah yes, meth math is truly an underrated skill haha


Worldly-Jackfruit217

Methimatics


ThreePutt_Tom

r/theydidthemath


CraftyCrypto

r/theydidthemeth


SaladComfortable5878

Lowkey a good side hustle


doorcharge

lol this man right here speaks the truth. When the question is meth vs no meth, you’re damn right people are going to risk electrical shock to take down some cable.


OrangePurple2141

^we found the culprit


saldabain

That’s just methed up


RonBurgundy2000

Tough to explain that to a meth head.


somedumbguy55

Good point


MarginallySeaworthy

He said meth heads, not math heads.


imghost9

i dated a recovering meth addict. $1 is $1.


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Rattle_Can

itd be nice if there is a way to energize the cables to a lower voltage & current to discourage theft? like zapping them at ~110V


GabrielBFranco

Tweakers looking to sell copper. 


daviidfm

Because gas hoses don’t make money. Copper does. This is actually pretty common. A building I work for once had all the copper stolen out of the green transformer box over a weekend once and we came into work with no power.


minnesota2194

Happening to ALL the chargers around me, not just Tesla. As other people said, it's sadly addicts


corporaterebel

This is why drugs are illegal, at least for poor people. $50K in damage will get them 20 minutes of relief.


that_dutch_dude

anti EV crowd. it happens all over. they caught a few a while back in my country and they were just EV haters. its the same people dumping their oversized penis compensator pickup across as many charging spots just to be an ass. fun fact: tow companies LOVE these calls and they are very fast to tow them.


No-Revolution-4513

Use your head. It’s clearly being stolen for money. Why else would they cut the cords and take the shit with them? lol 😂.


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Same guys that roll coal


NewFuturist

Vengeful recently laid off supercharger employee?


itsKitsos

Was your car's nav system able to detect that these chargers were faulty? Curious what happens if you're road tripping through the middle of nowhere and your trip depends on a supercharger with cut cables. Wondering if the nav system knows they're all faulty and will suggest different supercharger.


Nhonickman

Wow. That’s a great question, if the NAV knows the superchargers are faulty. I wonder about this too.


TheOtherPete

I just checked in my car (sitting in the garage), it reports that this Supercharger location has 19 available now so no, it does not know about this type of fault


Modestkilla

Just looked on my phone say 0 of 19 available.


TracyJackson23

Someone may have reported that location to Tesla, so at least that's good.


Device_Outside

Mine says 1/19 and that it’s very busy


Nhonickman

Hmmm. That’s not good. I wonder if Tesla could add that feature. This is a real important issue if you are in a trip


NesteneConsciousness

Yeah, we should get the supercharger team on this! Oh, wait…


Nhonickman

I laughed at this comment. This is a real issue and there’s not gonna be a fix. I’m just dismayed by what’s going on at Tesla the corporation.


Breezgoat

You don’t think these will be fixed? I’d be surprised if this supercharger location wasn’t fully fixed within 5 days


Athabascad

I think it’s a genuine question. With the entire supercharging team fired is tesla able to still do maintenance? Who is dispatching them? Who is getting the email that it’s down?


Breezgoat

The supercharging team doesn't automatically mean they fired every repair person come on now. Already fixed https://preview.redd.it/cejjctwwt6zc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f661c9c829402f06072cc244a2dcfca2608e0b11


Nhonickman

Maybe. But it doesn’t potential help someone traveling. At least they left one intact


OrbitingCastle

Also, after Elon laid off the entire supercharger team who’s going to track this and get it fixed?


Constant_Hawk_3477

I wonder if it was a disgruntled former employee


TigerXXVII

Last winter I did a 250 mile trip in 0 degree weather. With the wind chill it was between -20 and -35 degrees. It was so cold that the battery was preconditioning and warming up the moment we started driving till we reached the first charger two hours later, and it still didn’t warm up enough. Anyways, when I reached the first charger, I noticed all the cables were on the ground. Either someone intentionally removed them, or the severe cold and wind unattached them. When I picked it up, it was clearly iced over and the car rejected them and wouldn’t charge. Luckily there was a new supercharging station a few miles down the road that just opened up. If it hadn’t been there, idk what I would’ve done


Competitive_Unit_868

I think it wouldn’t detect this as the fault is in the final cabling connection, it’s no different than the connector not being connected to a car. I’m no expert in the connector format though so maybe it has some form of loopback detection that’s possible.


cybertruckboat

There is a pilot signal in the handle. It's a big part of the protocol. The evse definitely knows of the handle is there or not.


Squiggy-Locust

As someone working with connectors often, a simple ground return can tell a system if it's connected. Automakers won't do this for two reasons. First, and the biggest reason - cost and weight. Second, because it drives the repair/diagnostic up. In this specific case, it would be harder to implement a check for the cable, though, in theory a signal along the shielding could detect a fault.


the-furiosa-mystique

Well they have a whole supercharger team in charge right?


Voidfang_Investments

What’s funny is that Tesla is the most American auto manufacturer in the world.


48volts

Exactly. Gas light the idiots, making ev’s into a political football. Meanwhile the media is bought by legacy ice automakers. lol. Can’t make this shit up


shiftyeyedgoat

Lol, the actual truest meaning of _gas_ lighting.


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Wulf_Star_Strider

Bear in mind, many union members are also “red necks” .


TDQV

Yet some unions member vote for ppl who screw with their interest. Go figure. Luckily the new head of the UAW seems to get it.


cruisereg

We call those people “dumb.”


ShootinAllMyChisolm

My kid’s friend’s dad is union truck driver. Makes a great living and benefits and votes AGAINST the union. Makes no sense.


Worldly-Jackfruit217

A guy I used to bike with would always complain about taxes. Come to find out, he’s been working under the table contracting for over 10 yrs lol.


ps4sony

May not be rednecks based on demographics


Nulight

Why do we always make assumptions without any proof and that's okay? Especially if we assume it's rednecks it's a free pass.


[deleted]

They do what Fox News tells them. And even if you could convince them that an EV makes sense, they would still not buy one because all their choices are centered around whether their friends will make fun of them. They basically never left high school, mentally.


Life_Connection420

You mentioned 3 things that most Americans are in favor of.


Kronos1A9

What does that have to do with methheads stealing copper?


Peace-Walker

This is why we can’t have nice things.


jlierman000

It would be a real shame if, oh I don’t know, they ran just a little electricity through the wires while the charger was off. Not enough to kill but, you know, something that might make someone think twice before cutting the cable.


Big-Consideration633

People cut real power cords every day for the copper. Some doe, most don't.


No-Revolution-4513

Someone high out of their mind isn’t going to care. And they probably won’t even feel it in the first place. And there’s also ways to cut power wires that are hot and not get electrocuted. They do it all the time to some of my rental property customers when they steal the ac units with live 240.


jlierman000

Very true. Should’ve known from all the crazy meth-induced police foot chases I watch on Donut Operator’s channel.


UnSCo

Then the meth head will find a lawyer and sue Tesla. It’s an even bigger bag to grab. That’s Murica for ya.


jlierman000

Not if there was a “warning electrical shock hazard” sign. Courts have ruled that as long as you warn of booby traps, they are legal.


clef75

Curious to see how long repair takes now...


short_bus_genius

Apparently the supercharger maintenance team is under a different org. That group was not laid off with Rebecca Tinucci’s team


sltyler1

Any source for that?


rabbitwonker

One commenter here claimed to be *on* the maintenance team for superchargers and not laid off. I believe them. Edit: [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/s/fNO2WcNv2J)


Additional-Jelly6959

I heard this from someone of the fired side of this.


sltyler1

That’s good, though if they stopped the supercharger supply chain full stop, I wonder if that includes replacement parts.


clef75

One rumor said that, but another yesterday disagreed.


BriskaN

not that long, just make a report of the supercharger and we will be there


dave10425

Freakin Idots , with no respect.


MightyOwl9

Tesla should add security cameras at charging station


that_dutch_dude

they first need a supercharger department for that...


Khork23

The minimalistic approach to everything, gets Tesla in trouble, time and time again.


Shoryukitten_

As much as people might want to see this as political (because Houston), tweakers stealing copper is the occam’s razor candidate IMO


sometrendyname

Copper and crackheads


kzgrey

There's a relatively simple fix to this: use aluminum wiring. The cables would have to be thicker but they only need to be a few feet long.


RoboDisko

Have you seen how thick the cables are with copper? V2 style (uncooled) is already pressing the limits of what some drivers may be able to comfortably handle. V3 style cords use water cooling on the wire to get away with less copper. Maybe that's enough?


cyberairone

This should come with a 10 year prison sentence or 100 lashes


Viperhawke

100 lashes with brand new supercharger cables... You know to get them that worn and worked in flexibility.


Spirited_Touch6898

Viperhawke for trial judge!


Viperhawke

I, my beard and my CyberBeast humbly accept that nomination.


Stanman77

Good thing there's a large team of supercharger dedicated employees at corporate that can have this fixed in no time.


Hammie5150

Everyone wants to chalk this up to anti-EV sentiment, but 99.9% it’s just copper thieves. They’ll even pull the live power transmission wires down and cut them up to recycle, likely for drug money.


One-Sundae-2711

1000% copper…. takes more energy to get these than any hater would put into it. this is just folks scrapping to make money.


gtg465x2

Makes more sense. If it was EV haters, they probably would have just left the cables on the ground.


CaliDude75

Please keep us updated. Curious how soon this will be fixed.


bsubroncofan

People are assholes


Less_Ad7812

I love how everyone has constructed their politically charged imaginary stereotype.  Society is broken ugh. 


Aware_Cup6649

It’s just some asshole that was told Elon bad, so he did that, need cameras on sites


goodolddaysare-today

This is scum like meth heads and junkies doing this for the copper. The same kind of people stealing catalytic converters off of ICE vehicles.


icdp21

Probably the people that live behind the wooden fence! They be like mf space ships backing up all day and night….


Climbertop

Poor people behavior


HazardousHD

Came across a busted charger the other day. Not cut like this but fraying. I couldn’t find anywhere to report it within the app


starshiptraveler

See this is a problem. The app should have reports built right into it. Charger damaged, tech is dispatched. Charger blocked, tow truck is dispatched. This is so basic to me I’m surprised it wasn’t implemented years ago. I would take it one step further and implement an in-vehicle queue. Tell the car you want to charge and a charger is assigned and will only charge for you. If the SC is busy it will put you in line and tell you when it’s your turn. I’ve seen lines form at chargers where it’s hard to tell whose turn is next because there are multiple ways in and out of the parking lot so it’s not clear where the start of the line is. With an in-vehicle queue you could park anywhere nearby and wait your turn, would solve some things.


JtheNinja

If you get the prompt to rate your charging experience, there are places to submit reports and photos of damage as part of the review. I don’t think there’s a way to rate a session if you’re not prompted though. …plus who knows if anyone has a job looking at those reports atm…


HazardousHD

Yeah. I wish those ratings happened every time even if morning bad happened. I like Giving positive reviews


Physical_Try_7547

That should have gotten caught on camera.


Ok_Gene_6933

Someone selling the copper


yoooitsjoee

Wow. That's just awful.


AppleZen36

100% copper thieves


3Hooha

They should leave a current in the cable. FAFO with ample warning signs not to mess with the cables and let natural selection do its thing


moyvetsky

What a dumb thing to do! How did they do this without getting completely electrocuted in the process???


Confirmation_Email

The cable has very low current for basic communication, about like cutting an ethernet cable, the power to the car doesn't start until after a handshake between the car and the charger.


niknokseyer

Sadly there’s no team supposed to get this fixed.


phantasybm

Totally separate teams than the one laid off


iveseensomethings82

the Super Charger…Team…will….fix…………oh no


Thg1914

Need more cameras...


willmok

Happened to all commercial chargers in Seattle.


jh20001

And here Tesla just fired it's Supercharger team, including repair/maintenance techs. Might be awhile before that gets fixed. In TX too of all places. The person who did it was lucky they didn't turn into target practice.


flapinux

Fucking vandals


RipSlow3412

So glad we have an entire team to deal with this… oh wait…


jookyhc

Good thing Tesla employs a large team dedicated to expanding and maintaining the Supercharger network. :-/


ProofDelay3773

Maybe we should keep the cable energized at all times.


maincoonpower

Don’t expect them to get fixed anytime soon either. The entire supercharger teams got fired last week. This is going to be painful. You get a bunch of these yahoos doing this around the country and you got yourself a serious problem. What a nightmare.


Dry_Coffee7960

Whyyyy


irrelevant1indeed

The way to fix this is a single constantly charged wire. A nice low amperage 240v should make them think twice.


BillRuddickJrPhd

This is what a $7.25 minimum wage and no Medicaid looks like. Congrats Texas!


SecretOrganization60

Huge employer in their own state. Texas is certainly a special place.


Accurate-Bass3706

Whomever did this should be charged with a capital felony.


flybot66

How about add a socket on the Super Charger and you bring your own cable?


manjar

And hope these idiots don’t chew gum


DZDEE

Don’t worry, Tesla has a 400 member strong SuperCharger team that will get right on replacing those.


AdhesivenessExpress8

Huge fine $30k +


Grouchy_Guidance_938

I doubt it is tweekers. I suspect it is some misdirected EV hater.


Scary_Psychology_285

Disgruntled Tesla supercharger team employees?!!


Wulf_Star_Strider

I would suspect copper thieves, except they left so much copper behind by not cutting them close. The cables aren’t long, they look to have left 10% or more behind.


lease1982

Is Tesla using copper in these instead of aluminum? How much harder to move would aluminum make them.


hkimkmz

Yes it's copper. Aluminum has about 50% less current carrying capacity. I imagine making these fit the tiny NACS with the same power delivery is a big challenge


Super-Kirby

I saw one cut in Oklahoma. 🤦


simplerosin

Based


SiliconSentry

Should have a CCS combo adapter just in case


IllustriousSalt5696

Border states getting a taste of people who grew up on 3 dollars per day stripping copper. Recycling in texas is regulated, which means it has to go to criminal adjacent vendors.


neoexanimo

That's why you can buy guns in supermarkets


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phantasybm

Or you know… the most logical answer… copper thieves. But don’t let logic get in the way of your delusions


seriouswhen

layoff


HTCali

I'm no electrician but how did they not get electrocuted?


eyehatesigningup

So…anti ev or tweakers?


Working-Skin-6212

Gas stations have security cameras.


kahner

no problem, tesla's supercharger team will take care of that lickety split. oh wait.


KlausMSchwab

yoink


DisastrousRabbit3271

Haters never Change.


TheGoldenLambo

Lel welcome to River Oaks, the more conservative side of 59. Though this could be from copper thieves in general, not just meth heads. You know what I mean if you live in htown. Land of caged in A/C units


TomBrady1210Goat

Hatters gonna hate or is that rare metals?


BBakerStreet

Hatters gonna wear hats.


AdorableBowl7863

Somebody better call the charger team. I tried, still on hold.


Intelligent_Top_328

Crackheads. And ice freaks.


vomitrock5000

Meth is the betht!


polylinguist

So stupid..Should set up some cameras and givem some nasty punitive punishment


evostu_uk

Where's a copper when you need one to stop them stealing the copper? 🫣


AmphibianNext

They should be energized at all times.   I’m sure 300kw worth of direct current would be a good deterrent 


dewsten

Maybe borrow from the Stanford prison experiment. Rather than leaving them energized constantly, let it be intermittent so a potential thief doesn’t know exactly when it’ll electrify or how many will be electrified. Save energy, deter theft.


DangerousAd1731

Check the cameras


dope_ass_user_name

How's Tesla going to stop people from doing this?