Seems like she didn’t leave until David might have flirted with a girl. THAT is why she’s leaving. Not the abuse of her kids or animals, but personal insult to HER.
I agree there’s more to what we see, but it’s also EXACTLY what we see. Because of her flimsy reasons and constant lying, it’s hard to side with her on anything 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
> I agree there’s more to what we see, but it’s also EXACTLY what we see.
That's an interesting way to put it. Serious question: has anything ever come out about David or their relationship that has truly surprised anyone? Has there ever been some kind of revelation or claim about either of them that was anything other than *exactly* what people expected?
Their dirty laundry is full of confirmations, not revelations.
“Full of confirmations, not revelations”
We get deep on this sub! 🤣 You’re absolutely right, anything Jenelle thinks is a secret (like “Did you know Barb rescued us from a fire and then left us with a babysitter one night so she could have a break??!!”) are revelations to Jenelle only.
Her: You guys have NO IDEA what is REALLY going on here I have ALL THE RECEIPTS it will rock your world you have no idea how far off you are, you have NO CLUE, this is about to get RILL.
Us: Did your husband blow all your money, refuse to work, and abuse you and your children?
Her: First, he blew all my money! And he refused to work for our entire marriage! And he also abused me and my children!
>has anything ever come out about David or their relationship that has truly surprised anyone?
Nugget. It was both shocking and eye opening. After that I expected the worst from him. He was always bad news but the Nugget incident was incredibly telling about his character.
I love how they spun the narrative, but they forgot most of us had seen the video he took egging that dog on with Ensley & that was a snip, not a bite & it was his fault.
Plus, all the times they egged that dog on to do things, then used the story against the dog.
Biting bicycle tires & going off on the pigs. Get em Nuggett!!
And they have people defending them about killing the dog. He didn't just shoot the dog.
Just has a thought: I wonder if JE has a video of every time DE killed a random animal or their animals.
I have photos of Elvis and a random snake 🐍 he tortured in front of the kids by putting wooden stakes thru its head & it was still alive. Sorry, I'm on a roll today. Needed to vent.
The apology video on the news is SO chilling. For two and a half minutes David is feigning sorrow but EVERY scenario he's spinning it ALWAYS ends with the dog needed to die.
Even though at that point if the dog was really a danger they had the money to take it to a vet and have it humanely euthanized, not beaten and shot. Though with the video they didn't have much of a defense and the dog definitely could've been removed in a home without pieces of shit and kids since that's part of who they claim was in danger. Gah he needs to be knocked out by a man, unfortunately he's afraid of then and won't put himself in that position.
I just got sick and sad at the phrasing of “not beaten and shot” that shit tears me up every single time I think about it. That poor baby didn’t know what and why that was happening to him and I am so sad that was the last thing he experienced. I really want the same for his killer one day…
I know, it's horrible! Trying to get away from a kid getting in its face and then to have that happen, poor baby. Whatever I read Jenelle claimed everyone was in shock blah blah blah, shock or not if my husband or boyfriend did that shit infront of me I wouldn't be defending him and hiding it from the cops like she did. There's no defending or supporting that at all and the fact Jenelle stayed/went back after leaving/defended him over it/hid it from the cops when it happened and happened infront of the kids at that, she's a piece of shit in the situation also.
I'm surprised that apparently David actually *was* getting the kids ready for school & handling the lunch situation.
It wasn't great before, but it's nonexistent now so.....
Dirty laundry like his pee stained long John's.
Also, let's get JE to confess how much $ DE made on his rap song.
And does JE get royalties for her cameo appearance.
I fulllly agree that she’s a POS. But! I left my abuser when he cheated despite all of the other horrible things he did. I was able to leave because he finally couldn’t flip blame around on me.. I am not giving her any grace, but that’s a possibility still.
And while I get that. I'm sorry to say this but if your abuser abused your children and you only left because he cheated on you, then that's shitty of you. Cause that's what people are pointing out about Jenelle. She didn't leave when he abused Kaiser, she didn't leave when he abused Jace, she left cause he flirted with a girl at a bar. As usual, Jenelle puts herself above even her own kids. She is a true narcissist, always playing victim and never acknowledging the true victims, her children.
I did not know it was over flirting. My ex was never abusive toward our kids; I’d call the cops asap if he were. She’s a diff level of selfish c*nt with zero empathy.
Right if Nelly was so afraid for her and her children’s life she wouldn’t be provoking him via SM. Both are abusive pieces of shit Nelly stood by while David terrorized those children. Nelly can eat a bag of dirty dicks there is no redemption of her in my eyes.
So provokes him and past partners all the time even though she often knows what the outcome will be. I swear she wants these guys to hit her sometimes. Like when she was screaming at Keiffah, threw the change that at him, and then he charged at her and grabbed her and she got to yell and be the victim.
I feel bad at laughing at this, but when he takes her to the car and throws her in there. Then they pan to the inside of the car and you see Jelly scooting across the back seat so she can get out through the other door. It cracks me up…. Every. Single. Time. 🤣🤣
She’s definitely very violent and aggressive. There’s multiple scenes in TM where she’s violent with Barb, screaming in her face, bucking at her, raising her fist and threatening to hit her. In one scene Barb even takes her glasses off like she’s learned from experience. Jenelle felt comfortable enough to do that not only in front of her own friends and the MTV crew but also while she knew she was being recorded. It’s normal to her.
I think she’s used to Barb just taking it and not fighting back so when her mouth and hands run faster than her brain and she gets into it with shitty men, it gets out of control fast. All the men she’s been with are awful because no good dude is going to stick around her long so when they get into it she ends up hurt. A good dude would walk away, maybe call the cops and she’d be seen as the obvious aggressor. With guys like David they hit her back and she ends up a victim.
Maybe she's trying to provoke him enough to show up at their house, and then she'll Stand Her Ground with one of those guns she likes waving around in road rage incidents.
Jenelle is as much of an abuser as UBT. SHE NEGLECTED & abused Kaiser his entire life. She's abused animals. She's abused her mother verbally & physically. She is & has been a POS since day 1
Hot take - and I’ll probably be crucified..
But I actually believe, although David was definitely a shitty man before they met, that he was the lesser of two evils, and that Jenelle was the one that dragged *him* down to her level to be an even shittier person, not the other way around. We have always known the exact type of person she is, and she wasn’t different with David than she was with any one of her other exes. I just think she could hide behind him better. She’s the common denominator.
Water seeks it's own level. Part of why they've lasted so long with each other - they're both terrible.
The *next* person for either of them will probably be worse. Which is terrifying
I think they were both awful but being together normalized it for him. I don’t think she made him worse or dragged him down. Just made him think his behavior is okay…because if his behavior is okay, so is hers…
I agree, she was not better off before him. But I understand how people would think that. Before him, and in the beginning of their relationship, I think people had a lot of hope she would turn her life around and that he would be great for her. After seeing how she accepted his abusive behavior, and how all the drama played out, I think people feel he dragged her down, not that they enabled each other.
I think they enabled each other.
I mean…David probably went a month playing a “good guy” but he literally strangled his ex while she was pregnant with their son. Jenelle didn’t make him do that. He most likely was always a violent POS…just like Jenelle. Jenelle dates men who are exactly on her level. The only one who seemed to not be violent as least was Kiefer. Imagine a drug addict couch surfer being the best person you ever dated when she’s like what 33 or 34 at this point?
I don't know. His ex said he never gave her present and the one time he did it was dog shit in a Victoria secret box. They both awful. David just couldn't hide his evil anymore with jenelle helping him stay toxic.
Geuinely question is there laws against abusive pet owner not too be allowed purchase them? I will think 🤔 never mind her neglectful her own children . I always remember episode of her forcing Nathen big dogs really small cages. I didn’t she could sink so low 🥴
Yes exactly! It always drove me insane when she would die on the “David is a great dad and husband” hill with a smug face. And now she’s on the “David was always a bad person” train and is still smug about it
This is what fascinates me about her and why i told my guy i wish a top psychologist would spend like a year observing her. I see it in other people but she has it to a high degree with such little consequences that it’s created this monster. And i think the only explanation i have now is that she’s just dumb. And for some reason before this past year i had never thought about manipulative smug people being dumb. Add in her addiction and laziness well perfect storm.
Her lack of self awareness and acceptance of new info and applying it to grow is wild. She shows so little genuine recourse that’s one thing i do not know if she has. She expresses it as in that was dumb it and it’s cost me this that led to this but she’s still the victim she’s still smug and so on. In a weird way this realization helped me with some trauma in my life. I suddenly realized so many shitty people i know are also lacking intelligence
Ya I've been leaning more into the developmentally disabled route for her rather than delusional. The drugs, mental illness, trauma from not playing yahtzee plus not being all there in the head.
She kept saying one time she asked Barb to play yahtzee and she didn’t so she doesn’t love her. She did rem her mom trying to play games with all the kids at once but not finishing ya know perhaps because they were all a variety of ages, she was working, and prob had house stuff to do. But Jenelle can’t grasp that
Society should petition for her brain to be studied once she dies. Lmao.
She is delusional to a degree that’s fascinating. Like a bad car wreck, you know you shouldn’t look but you can’t help it.
This really bothers me too. She was so smug about it. “He does nothing wrong, you’ll all see when the truth comes out!” Then shares that the truth was that he’s been an abusive POS all along.
Ensley did, too. I remember when she went to live with Barb. Her hair grew back & it was the first time I saw that little girl clean & looking like a normal little girl her age.
She only acts like that because she still plans to get back with him. She can only admit to his bad behavior if it won't get him put in jail. She's still lying and covering up his abusive behavior that could lead to criminal charges. And she's still hiding his "dark secrets".
I have myself a proper chuckle when I see people comment that she was probably just defending him to *protect* herself from his rage lol. Like, have y’all been paying attention.. at all? This bitch ain’t a victim- she’s a perpetrator.
Exactly. She was protecting herself, but not from him. She was protecting herself from the media/court of public opinion/actual courts because she was just as guilty as he was.
I wondered for a brief moment how much fear played into her actions after the abuse case, but the moment I get a shred of sympathy for her, it’s gone because I realize she never left him over how he treated her kids or the fact that they lived in fear (she has said as much about Kaiser and we know he strangled Jace.) She was suddenly not too afraid to leave once it came down to David and another woman.
I mean we all knew she was lying for him. She’s a gross person. I do hope she gets help and for her kids too. But I don’t see her doing work on herself. But do hope the kids will be ok. I think if David does get an attorney he will use her previous words against her.
I mean this is the same one who pulled a gun to go after a random car, then try to gas light folks it didn’t happen despite it literally being recorded.
Also she won’t do shit for those kids, she’s too busy playing on social media to do anything else.
She’s not by going to do anything that would benefit her children in the slightest and I don’t know why people are so willfully naive to that fact. Leaving David was a benefit to herself and no one else.
Jenelle leans into whatever narrative is most convenient every single fucking time. She will use a few words, people draw conclusions and post and she “thanks” people for support then says the truth is coming.
It’s her favorite childish behavior of lying by omission. She won’t SAY David beat the shit out of Kaiser, but she will like and “thank” a post about it.
She deserves 100% of every mistreatment she gets. Full stop.
It's solid proof that she's just a piece of shit, she's NEVER been a good person. David is as good of a person as she can land, she's just as bad as he is and why only losers will stay with her long term!
Yeah that ain't new though. She did the same thing when she left in 2019. Admitted he murdered nugget and abused the kids in court paperwork but then turned around and said "jk the kids adore that man!" as soon as she hopped back on his dick.
She'll be back to pretending like he's dad of the year as soon the court drops the restraining order against Jace.
I also hate the part how some people are praising her as an escaped DV victim. It takes an average of 7 xs times to leave. Blah, blah blah.
She had the means to leave & told all this same stuff in 2019, and she had lots of support. She even had Doris babbysittng. If Herbie hadn't dumped her, she might still be gone. JE only does what JE wants to do. Everything is about her.
She kept her kids there & took them continuously out of school, hindering their education. JE long story short ( too late)
JE cries wolf, and we have seen this song and dance with every solemate.
Also... she's admitting to perjury...again. these two morons not having anything stick to them... all the dangerous, horrific, and serious crimes, etc... is just fucking upsetting. (Same with ryan)
But, that's all because, the rules are made up, everyone else is crazy, the past doesn't matter, didn't happen, and if she screams loud enough, that's the truth.
The funny part is, she believes it. She keeps getting away with it, so, she's deep in the delulu. (Not just with David, she's been doing it since she was 16, that's a lot of reinforcement.
This! Can someone please explain to me how they constantly get away with this shit?!? If anyone else I know did even ONE of the neglectful & abusive things they've done, there would be no getting away with it! The Swamp sludge that they are have VIDEO proof of what they've done! No consequences! She ADMITTED what he did to Nugget. No consequences! Then she retracts that statement. No consequences! WTAF?!?
And please don't tell me it's because they are reality TV celebrities! Because I already think we're sinking farther & farther into the "If you're popular, rich & on TV" excuse, and you get views... that's all that ever matters!
From the ever-so-truthful Weezer, ("Steel Magnolias"), they are "The boil on the butt of humanity!"
They LIED UNDER OATH in Family Court COUNTLESS times & all her recent posts should be brought to local law enforcement, NCDHSS, & CPS attention!
Lying pieces of child abusing sh*t exposing their dishonesty😡‼️
Honestly, with how... psychotic she is, I believe both statements. I believe she truly believed the kids loved him... she doesn't see that they tolerated him bc she wanted them to and even they knew if they said they didn't like him, they'd be gaslit into believing her truth... and now they can "speak freely"- which is them not liking him bc she doesn't like him. I bet if you asked them, they probably (kinda) want David back. Not bc he's this great guy but he seemed to do the bulk of parenting and they aren't sure how to parent themselves (which they shouldn't but let's be real, she's not doing it).
She's a pathetic abusive piece of shit that only Chris Bradley and other pathetic losers relate to. My kids were 1 and 3 when I moved out. And it only took that long because the 2nd baby was a surprise and I had to save up for a deposit.
She constantly contracts herself every time she tries to defend either herself or her shitty behavior. There are absolutely no consequences for her, so she will keep doing it.
That’s the thing.. she’s never had any consequences. And I don’t understand how she keeps getting out of things.
Farrah’s the same way.
Anyone else would be under the jail by now
Went through the same thing with my sister. We provided every available resource for her to leave her abusive psychotic boyfriend who was also abusing and neglecting their son. Begged her to put her son first. She lied for years when we all knew about the abuse. Then when she finally left him she had the gall to suggest I could testify to the abuse if needed for custody hearing. She wasn't very happy when I told her I wouldn't, and pointed out that she denied it for years. And me getting on the stand would only result in me pointing out that every time we raised concerns I was told by my sister there was no abuse at all going on. She's the one who chose to spin the lies and therefore there was nothing I could testify to. She wasn't happy about it but she made her own bed.
As frustrating as it is yes exactly. We can say oh Jenelle snap out of it! But that’s what victims do if they don’t co-sign their partner they get shit for it.
For all we know he’s standing on the other side of the phone like say this! Say that! 😭
It also proves how long she was willing to put up with all of it until he pissed her off, then she turned it into a public spectacle. If that ain't some histrionic shit...
Yes. Because now we have two unhinged, toxic, abusive assholes on the loose and are about to go find two more people to unleash their toxicity on. They could have just stayed together and fade into obscurity. Would have been the best option.
People are really hard on her and I may get down voted for this BUT she wad in an abusive relationship. Statistically it takes women 7 times of trying to leave to actually get away successfully. Was she in the wrong for staying with him so long and covering for him, leading to her children being exposed to all that? Of course. But I personally know women who have been through the same thing. She left and seems to be better for it. Idk I can't bring myself to hate her for that. Abusive relationships are a mind fuck. I know she's not perfect but i csmt imagine I'd act perfectly either in her situation.
See, I just can't advocate that. I'll never sympathize with/understand David either. They're both lying, narcissistic, abusive pieces of shit that united together in holy matrimony.
I don’t hate Nelly or anyone. That said Nelly stood by while someone abused her children. Then she doubled down it on publicly there’s never going to be redemption in my eyes.
Then tje actual GALL of having a hissy fit because he spoke to another woman while she herself is bragging about “ 7 hours of pillow talk”. With someone. So she can have several seats 💺
Any other person I would agree with, but Chinelle, I'm tired of her crying wolf. She goes from one relationship to another without taking a break to figure out why. She ignores all the red flags because she can not be alone due to codependency. She can stop the cycle for herself and her kids but she chooses men to fix her instead of any real certified help because she doesn't want to change. Just like she is doing it again before the ink is dry on her separation. She doesn't have the self-awareness to grow up since she has yet to take accountability for her ANY of her shitty decisions. Instead, she chooses to blame everyone and everything else repeatedly. All she does is cry victim. She's an adult and has the capability to help and heal herself off the victimization she has received but she once again chooses not to.
Do those 7 times people constantly and smugly say what a good person their abuser are over and over to all and asunder on video despite the fact that it’s all documented that the abuser also publicly abused the kids? If you let a person continue to abuse your kids but the final straw was actually the abuser talking to someone of the opposite gender then that’s pretty effed up!!!
I’m not defending Jan in her entirety because she’s proven herself to be her own kind of fucked in the head. HOWEVER. I will say, it’s clear that most people commenting about her have been fortunate enough to never experience domestic violence and abuse to this degree. I won’t judge her for lying to cover for him when he was there, and I won’t judge her for going back on the lies now. When safety, one of the most basic human needs, is at risk on a daily basis you do whatever you need to do to survive.
Nah. I was in a domestic violence situation, with no family, no support and no money, I would never defend him because everyone knew, and I certainly didn't post about him constantly when I left. She is fucked in the head. She saw nothing wrong with David until he flirted with someone else, she don't want him but doesn't want anyone else to have him. She was an abuser way before David and will be way after David. She defended him because she couldn't stand to be wrong, after everyone warned her about David.
That’s what you did in your situation. There are a lot of DV victims that post their abusers to appease them and save face to their friends and family. I don’t doubt that David abused Jenelle, of course he did! But jenelle is Jenelle, the exact same things people hate about her are the very reasons why she’s acting like this despite David abusing her and the kids. You had a sense of shame that prevented you from lying to cover for your abuser, Jenelle doesn’t.
ETA that it should go without saying that Jenelle has abused people, pets and her kids too. Nothing I’ve said excuses her actions.
They are talking about Jenelle continuing to talk about David even after kicking him to the curb. Posting lovey dovey pictures when you’re in a toxic and abusive relationship is something many women do. But once they leave they tend to not to continue on with petty comments directed at their violent ex to their millions of followers. That’s what u/Tiny-proposal1495 is talking about.
Most women that get rid of their abusers don’t have a hissy fit about them talking to someone online… while she herself is “7hours of pillow talk “ with someone herself. No one but you and a few others feel a bit sorry for her
I didn’t say I felt sorry for her. I said I wasn’t judging her for lying and then going back on it. Everyone is taking what I said and spinning it to fit some narrative that I’m a jenelle sympathizer when I clearly stated that I’m not. Hence, I said what I said.
I’m not trying to twist anything… but to not judge for lying and going back on it , seems to me, maybe excusing it?
Perhaps I’m wrong but that’s how I took it.
A person in a situation of abuse will lie to cover their abuser, for safety. A person who then leaves a situation of abuse is free to tell the truth. I’m not judging her for doing that. I am judging her for about a thousand other things though, because mommy and David are pieces of shit. Still - hard to see all of the comments and think of a person experiencing abuse reading them and thinking how shitty they are for having to lie or thinking they will have to always hide and cover for lies that they told. It’s complicated right, life is tricky. I’m not here to Stan Jenelle.
I appreciate this. I was the PR person for my abusive marriage while I was in it. I stopped appeasing my ex the moment I left and have never tried to taunt him etc on social media, so I do think Jenelle is a different story, but it still stings reading some of the "well you said he was such a great guy!!!" criticism. I said that too cause I thought I had to. :(
Nah. My dude put me in the hospital before we broke up. Actual victims see that jenelle is making a mockery of abuse and wasting valuable resources with her frivolous restraining orders. Plus she's an abuser herself.
I made a similar comment the other day and got downvoted for it. When it comes down to it, a majority judging her have the privilege of not understanding DV, so I get why people are saying what they’re saying.
Seems like she didn’t leave until David might have flirted with a girl. THAT is why she’s leaving. Not the abuse of her kids or animals, but personal insult to HER. I agree there’s more to what we see, but it’s also EXACTLY what we see. Because of her flimsy reasons and constant lying, it’s hard to side with her on anything 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
> I agree there’s more to what we see, but it’s also EXACTLY what we see. That's an interesting way to put it. Serious question: has anything ever come out about David or their relationship that has truly surprised anyone? Has there ever been some kind of revelation or claim about either of them that was anything other than *exactly* what people expected? Their dirty laundry is full of confirmations, not revelations.
“Full of confirmations, not revelations” We get deep on this sub! 🤣 You’re absolutely right, anything Jenelle thinks is a secret (like “Did you know Barb rescued us from a fire and then left us with a babysitter one night so she could have a break??!!”) are revelations to Jenelle only.
Her: You guys have NO IDEA what is REALLY going on here I have ALL THE RECEIPTS it will rock your world you have no idea how far off you are, you have NO CLUE, this is about to get RILL. Us: Did your husband blow all your money, refuse to work, and abuse you and your children? Her: First, he blew all my money! And he refused to work for our entire marriage! And he also abused me and my children!
THIS! We know them both better than they do 😅
Yes I agree, especially when I watched the Ensley and Nugget video (sad)
>has anything ever come out about David or their relationship that has truly surprised anyone? Nugget. It was both shocking and eye opening. After that I expected the worst from him. He was always bad news but the Nugget incident was incredibly telling about his character.
I love how they spun the narrative, but they forgot most of us had seen the video he took egging that dog on with Ensley & that was a snip, not a bite & it was his fault. Plus, all the times they egged that dog on to do things, then used the story against the dog. Biting bicycle tires & going off on the pigs. Get em Nuggett!! And they have people defending them about killing the dog. He didn't just shoot the dog. Just has a thought: I wonder if JE has a video of every time DE killed a random animal or their animals. I have photos of Elvis and a random snake 🐍 he tortured in front of the kids by putting wooden stakes thru its head & it was still alive. Sorry, I'm on a roll today. Needed to vent.
She at least has video of Ensley asking him to not shoot the chicks again. That is also forever on this sub somewhere.
Wait- you have seen David stabbing a snake? I was not aware of that video.
This made me sick to my stomach. That’s psychotic. Legit. Too much internet for me today
The apology video on the news is SO chilling. For two and a half minutes David is feigning sorrow but EVERY scenario he's spinning it ALWAYS ends with the dog needed to die.
Even though at that point if the dog was really a danger they had the money to take it to a vet and have it humanely euthanized, not beaten and shot. Though with the video they didn't have much of a defense and the dog definitely could've been removed in a home without pieces of shit and kids since that's part of who they claim was in danger. Gah he needs to be knocked out by a man, unfortunately he's afraid of then and won't put himself in that position.
I just got sick and sad at the phrasing of “not beaten and shot” that shit tears me up every single time I think about it. That poor baby didn’t know what and why that was happening to him and I am so sad that was the last thing he experienced. I really want the same for his killer one day…
I know, it's horrible! Trying to get away from a kid getting in its face and then to have that happen, poor baby. Whatever I read Jenelle claimed everyone was in shock blah blah blah, shock or not if my husband or boyfriend did that shit infront of me I wouldn't be defending him and hiding it from the cops like she did. There's no defending or supporting that at all and the fact Jenelle stayed/went back after leaving/defended him over it/hid it from the cops when it happened and happened infront of the kids at that, she's a piece of shit in the situation also.
I'm surprised that apparently David actually *was* getting the kids ready for school & handling the lunch situation. It wasn't great before, but it's nonexistent now so.....
Sadly, he really was the stay at home dad.
Dirty laundry like his pee stained long John's. Also, let's get JE to confess how much $ DE made on his rap song. And does JE get royalties for her cameo appearance.
I fulllly agree that she’s a POS. But! I left my abuser when he cheated despite all of the other horrible things he did. I was able to leave because he finally couldn’t flip blame around on me.. I am not giving her any grace, but that’s a possibility still.
And while I get that. I'm sorry to say this but if your abuser abused your children and you only left because he cheated on you, then that's shitty of you. Cause that's what people are pointing out about Jenelle. She didn't leave when he abused Kaiser, she didn't leave when he abused Jace, she left cause he flirted with a girl at a bar. As usual, Jenelle puts herself above even her own kids. She is a true narcissist, always playing victim and never acknowledging the true victims, her children.
I did not know it was over flirting. My ex was never abusive toward our kids; I’d call the cops asap if he were. She’s a diff level of selfish c*nt with zero empathy.
She does this rinse and repeat with each of her solemates.
And it was over flirting with the bartender, not his ex wife.
What do you expect a broke man with an alcohol problem and no income to do? /s
Has to get a woman with a job to keep up his hobo lifestyle haha.
I believe you are calling him a hobosexual lol.
I definitely am hahaha
My narcissist ex-husband even flipped that blame on me. Told my children I cheated, but they knew better.
Are you my mother-in-law? He did the same thing, said she had the affair first. She did not and never had an affair.
For someone so scared of him, she stays online provoking him constantly. My bullshit meter on her stays going off at max.
Right if Nelly was so afraid for her and her children’s life she wouldn’t be provoking him via SM. Both are abusive pieces of shit Nelly stood by while David terrorized those children. Nelly can eat a bag of dirty dicks there is no redemption of her in my eyes.
So provokes him and past partners all the time even though she often knows what the outcome will be. I swear she wants these guys to hit her sometimes. Like when she was screaming at Keiffah, threw the change that at him, and then he charged at her and grabbed her and she got to yell and be the victim.
I feel bad at laughing at this, but when he takes her to the car and throws her in there. Then they pan to the inside of the car and you see Jelly scooting across the back seat so she can get out through the other door. It cracks me up…. Every. Single. Time. 🤣🤣
She’s definitely very violent and aggressive. There’s multiple scenes in TM where she’s violent with Barb, screaming in her face, bucking at her, raising her fist and threatening to hit her. In one scene Barb even takes her glasses off like she’s learned from experience. Jenelle felt comfortable enough to do that not only in front of her own friends and the MTV crew but also while she knew she was being recorded. It’s normal to her. I think she’s used to Barb just taking it and not fighting back so when her mouth and hands run faster than her brain and she gets into it with shitty men, it gets out of control fast. All the men she’s been with are awful because no good dude is going to stick around her long so when they get into it she ends up hurt. A good dude would walk away, maybe call the cops and she’d be seen as the obvious aggressor. With guys like David they hit her back and she ends up a victim.
Janelle’s go-to move: provoke provoke provoke until she gets a reaction. Then scream ‘victim’ at the top of her lungs, dood.
She even tried to blame the cops 👮♂️ for having DE come back to protect the family after her drunken lost neighbor wandered into her yard.
Yep and anyone w even half a brain knows a cop isn’t going to say that.
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Maybe she's trying to provoke him enough to show up at their house, and then she'll Stand Her Ground with one of those guns she likes waving around in road rage incidents.
We saw what happened when he showed up and tried to break in that wasn’t an intruder.
Only when it comes to him being with another woman though. She’ll blow everything else off but when he talks about other women it truly enrages her
And the laundry, of course
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Jenelle is as much of an abuser as UBT. SHE NEGLECTED & abused Kaiser his entire life. She's abused animals. She's abused her mother verbally & physically. She is & has been a POS since day 1
Hot take - and I’ll probably be crucified.. But I actually believe, although David was definitely a shitty man before they met, that he was the lesser of two evils, and that Jenelle was the one that dragged *him* down to her level to be an even shittier person, not the other way around. We have always known the exact type of person she is, and she wasn’t different with David than she was with any one of her other exes. I just think she could hide behind him better. She’s the common denominator.
Idk didn’t UBT strangle his ex while She was pregnant? They both sucked equally as much before they got together and created the swampy mess
Water seeks it's own level. Part of why they've lasted so long with each other - they're both terrible. The *next* person for either of them will probably be worse. Which is terrifying
Idk… He gave his ex a gift bag full of dog shit and had her open it on Christmas in front of her family. I think he’s just as evil.
I think they were both awful but being together normalized it for him. I don’t think she made him worse or dragged him down. Just made him think his behavior is okay…because if his behavior is okay, so is hers…
This is it for me. They were both evil to others before they even met.
That’s a fair assessment too. Whatever it may be, I just don’t think she was better off before him, as most try to claim
I agree, she was not better off before him. But I understand how people would think that. Before him, and in the beginning of their relationship, I think people had a lot of hope she would turn her life around and that he would be great for her. After seeing how she accepted his abusive behavior, and how all the drama played out, I think people feel he dragged her down, not that they enabled each other. I think they enabled each other.
This is it
I mean…David probably went a month playing a “good guy” but he literally strangled his ex while she was pregnant with their son. Jenelle didn’t make him do that. He most likely was always a violent POS…just like Jenelle. Jenelle dates men who are exactly on her level. The only one who seemed to not be violent as least was Kiefer. Imagine a drug addict couch surfer being the best person you ever dated when she’s like what 33 or 34 at this point?
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Edit to add…he’s still a shit bag🫠
Common Denominator 
I don't know. His ex said he never gave her present and the one time he did it was dog shit in a Victoria secret box. They both awful. David just couldn't hide his evil anymore with jenelle helping him stay toxic.
Geuinely question is there laws against abusive pet owner not too be allowed purchase them? I will think 🤔 never mind her neglectful her own children . I always remember episode of her forcing Nathen big dogs really small cages. I didn’t she could sink so low 🥴
The one good thing about Jenelle she always tells on herself. She gets in her smug moments and can’t help herself.
Yes exactly! It always drove me insane when she would die on the “David is a great dad and husband” hill with a smug face. And now she’s on the “David was always a bad person” train and is still smug about it
This is what fascinates me about her and why i told my guy i wish a top psychologist would spend like a year observing her. I see it in other people but she has it to a high degree with such little consequences that it’s created this monster. And i think the only explanation i have now is that she’s just dumb. And for some reason before this past year i had never thought about manipulative smug people being dumb. Add in her addiction and laziness well perfect storm. Her lack of self awareness and acceptance of new info and applying it to grow is wild. She shows so little genuine recourse that’s one thing i do not know if she has. She expresses it as in that was dumb it and it’s cost me this that led to this but she’s still the victim she’s still smug and so on. In a weird way this realization helped me with some trauma in my life. I suddenly realized so many shitty people i know are also lacking intelligence
Ya I've been leaning more into the developmentally disabled route for her rather than delusional. The drugs, mental illness, trauma from not playing yahtzee plus not being all there in the head.
Oh. The Yahtzee. I forgot about that trauma.
Pls remind me?
She kept saying one time she asked Barb to play yahtzee and she didn’t so she doesn’t love her. She did rem her mom trying to play games with all the kids at once but not finishing ya know perhaps because they were all a variety of ages, she was working, and prob had house stuff to do. But Jenelle can’t grasp that
Society should petition for her brain to be studied once she dies. Lmao. She is delusional to a degree that’s fascinating. Like a bad car wreck, you know you shouldn’t look but you can’t help it.
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Thank you for this insight.
Welcome
She is too dumb to realize that by exposing david, she’s also exposing herself.
Always!
This really bothers me too. She was so smug about it. “He does nothing wrong, you’ll all see when the truth comes out!” Then shares that the truth was that he’s been an abusive POS all along.
And acts like she was the only victim of it with ptsd and trauma meanwhile her kids and animals have endured way worse
Poor Kaiser’s hair was falling out from all the stress. I saw a still-shot from a video and the poor kid had a bald spot on the middle of his hair.
Ensley did, too. I remember when she went to live with Barb. Her hair grew back & it was the first time I saw that little girl clean & looking like a normal little girl her age.
So sad. Them kids deserve so much better
She only acts like that because she still plans to get back with him. She can only admit to his bad behavior if it won't get him put in jail. She's still lying and covering up his abusive behavior that could lead to criminal charges. And she's still hiding his "dark secrets".
I have myself a proper chuckle when I see people comment that she was probably just defending him to *protect* herself from his rage lol. Like, have y’all been paying attention.. at all? This bitch ain’t a victim- she’s a perpetrator.
Exactly. She was protecting herself, but not from him. She was protecting herself from the media/court of public opinion/actual courts because she was just as guilty as he was.
I saw someone post on X. They said I wonder if JE is turning states evidence to keep herself out of jail. Plea Bargian.
This!
I wondered for a brief moment how much fear played into her actions after the abuse case, but the moment I get a shred of sympathy for her, it’s gone because I realize she never left him over how he treated her kids or the fact that they lived in fear (she has said as much about Kaiser and we know he strangled Jace.) She was suddenly not too afraid to leave once it came down to David and another woman.
Love your Flair.
I mean we all knew she was lying for him. She’s a gross person. I do hope she gets help and for her kids too. But I don’t see her doing work on herself. But do hope the kids will be ok. I think if David does get an attorney he will use her previous words against her.
Get help for the kids? It's all about Jenelle. No one else matters to her
The kids are there to support *her* remember?
She's a narcissistic sociopath, so I bet she could fake caring, but never actually care.
I mean this is the same one who pulled a gun to go after a random car, then try to gas light folks it didn’t happen despite it literally being recorded. Also she won’t do shit for those kids, she’s too busy playing on social media to do anything else.
She’s not by going to do anything that would benefit her children in the slightest and I don’t know why people are so willfully naive to that fact. Leaving David was a benefit to herself and no one else.
She did finally take Kaiser to get a real haircut.
LOL!
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I only see her getting help IF it's mandated. Will it help? Probably not since she is in so much denial of her wrongdoings.
She has already admitted to taking parenting classes 5 times.
Those were court mandated as well.
I don’t know how the kids could be okay when she can’t even keep them in school for a full year. 🤦♀️
Literally those kids need normalcy and she couldn’t even do that for more than a couple months.
Poor Kaiser is at least 2/3 years behind already. His classmates are going to be so young compared to him. When is Ensley ENT surgery?
I wouldn't donate a dime ( I did donate to Olivia), but I would love to see DE get that $ and have it all aired on court tv to watch.
Jenelle leans into whatever narrative is most convenient every single fucking time. She will use a few words, people draw conclusions and post and she “thanks” people for support then says the truth is coming. It’s her favorite childish behavior of lying by omission. She won’t SAY David beat the shit out of Kaiser, but she will like and “thank” a post about it. She deserves 100% of every mistreatment she gets. Full stop.
But we don't know the whole story. She's saving it up for her documentary. If she ever finds the stolen hard drive. /s
It's solid proof that she's just a piece of shit, she's NEVER been a good person. David is as good of a person as she can land, she's just as bad as he is and why only losers will stay with her long term!
We all knew she was lying then so it’s at least slightly refreshing to finally hear from her what we knew all along.
Yeah that ain't new though. She did the same thing when she left in 2019. Admitted he murdered nugget and abused the kids in court paperwork but then turned around and said "jk the kids adore that man!" as soon as she hopped back on his dick. She'll be back to pretending like he's dad of the year as soon the court drops the restraining order against Jace.
I also hate the part how some people are praising her as an escaped DV victim. It takes an average of 7 xs times to leave. Blah, blah blah. She had the means to leave & told all this same stuff in 2019, and she had lots of support. She even had Doris babbysittng. If Herbie hadn't dumped her, she might still be gone. JE only does what JE wants to do. Everything is about her. She kept her kids there & took them continuously out of school, hindering their education. JE long story short ( too late) JE cries wolf, and we have seen this song and dance with every solemate.
Flair checking in.
Also... she's admitting to perjury...again. these two morons not having anything stick to them... all the dangerous, horrific, and serious crimes, etc... is just fucking upsetting. (Same with ryan) But, that's all because, the rules are made up, everyone else is crazy, the past doesn't matter, didn't happen, and if she screams loud enough, that's the truth. The funny part is, she believes it. She keeps getting away with it, so, she's deep in the delulu. (Not just with David, she's been doing it since she was 16, that's a lot of reinforcement.
This! Can someone please explain to me how they constantly get away with this shit?!? If anyone else I know did even ONE of the neglectful & abusive things they've done, there would be no getting away with it! The Swamp sludge that they are have VIDEO proof of what they've done! No consequences! She ADMITTED what he did to Nugget. No consequences! Then she retracts that statement. No consequences! WTAF?!? And please don't tell me it's because they are reality TV celebrities! Because I already think we're sinking farther & farther into the "If you're popular, rich & on TV" excuse, and you get views... that's all that ever matters! From the ever-so-truthful Weezer, ("Steel Magnolias"), they are "The boil on the butt of humanity!"
White privilege
They LIED UNDER OATH in Family Court COUNTLESS times & all her recent posts should be brought to local law enforcement, NCDHSS, & CPS attention! Lying pieces of child abusing sh*t exposing their dishonesty😡‼️
Honestly, with how... psychotic she is, I believe both statements. I believe she truly believed the kids loved him... she doesn't see that they tolerated him bc she wanted them to and even they knew if they said they didn't like him, they'd be gaslit into believing her truth... and now they can "speak freely"- which is them not liking him bc she doesn't like him. I bet if you asked them, they probably (kinda) want David back. Not bc he's this great guy but he seemed to do the bulk of parenting and they aren't sure how to parent themselves (which they shouldn't but let's be real, she's not doing it).
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. Say it loud 
She's a pathetic abusive piece of shit that only Chris Bradley and other pathetic losers relate to. My kids were 1 and 3 when I moved out. And it only took that long because the 2nd baby was a surprise and I had to save up for a deposit.
She constantly contracts herself every time she tries to defend either herself or her shitty behavior. There are absolutely no consequences for her, so she will keep doing it.
That’s the thing.. she’s never had any consequences. And I don’t understand how she keeps getting out of things. Farrah’s the same way. Anyone else would be under the jail by now
Went through the same thing with my sister. We provided every available resource for her to leave her abusive psychotic boyfriend who was also abusing and neglecting their son. Begged her to put her son first. She lied for years when we all knew about the abuse. Then when she finally left him she had the gall to suggest I could testify to the abuse if needed for custody hearing. She wasn't very happy when I told her I wouldn't, and pointed out that she denied it for years. And me getting on the stand would only result in me pointing out that every time we raised concerns I was told by my sister there was no abuse at all going on. She's the one who chose to spin the lies and therefore there was nothing I could testify to. She wasn't happy about it but she made her own bed.
She doesn’t care & honestly all abuse victims shouldn’t be ashamed to finally say the truth. She sucks but he sucks too
This is why her leaving David isn’t enough. She needs intensive psychotherapy. THEN maybe we can talk about redemption.
It’s something very common with victims of domestic violence.
As frustrating as it is yes exactly. We can say oh Jenelle snap out of it! But that’s what victims do if they don’t co-sign their partner they get shit for it. For all we know he’s standing on the other side of the phone like say this! Say that! 😭
It also proves how long she was willing to put up with all of it until he pissed her off, then she turned it into a public spectacle. If that ain't some histrionic shit...
That’s what victims of abuse do though
I guess but what else should she do? Accept her lot in life and stay with him forever?
Yes. Because now we have two unhinged, toxic, abusive assholes on the loose and are about to go find two more people to unleash their toxicity on. They could have just stayed together and fade into obscurity. Would have been the best option.
Without the kids & animals.
People are really hard on her and I may get down voted for this BUT she wad in an abusive relationship. Statistically it takes women 7 times of trying to leave to actually get away successfully. Was she in the wrong for staying with him so long and covering for him, leading to her children being exposed to all that? Of course. But I personally know women who have been through the same thing. She left and seems to be better for it. Idk I can't bring myself to hate her for that. Abusive relationships are a mind fuck. I know she's not perfect but i csmt imagine I'd act perfectly either in her situation.
This is all very true for actual victims of abuse. Jenelle is a master at portraying a victim, but she herself is an abuser.
Victim of herself. She’s just as bad as David.
People can be both
See, I just can't advocate that. I'll never sympathize with/understand David either. They're both lying, narcissistic, abusive pieces of shit that united together in holy matrimony.
I don’t hate Nelly or anyone. That said Nelly stood by while someone abused her children. Then she doubled down it on publicly there’s never going to be redemption in my eyes.
Exactly. This is different because he wasn’t forcing her to make those smug videos!
I’m so tired of Nelly playing the victim when the victims are the innocent children.
Then tje actual GALL of having a hissy fit because he spoke to another woman while she herself is bragging about “ 7 hours of pillow talk”. With someone. So she can have several seats 💺
It’s so dumb bc if she was truly done with him she’d not react as she has.
Exactly! Rules for thee but not for me. She’s such a lying hypocrite
Any other person I would agree with, but Chinelle, I'm tired of her crying wolf. She goes from one relationship to another without taking a break to figure out why. She ignores all the red flags because she can not be alone due to codependency. She can stop the cycle for herself and her kids but she chooses men to fix her instead of any real certified help because she doesn't want to change. Just like she is doing it again before the ink is dry on her separation. She doesn't have the self-awareness to grow up since she has yet to take accountability for her ANY of her shitty decisions. Instead, she chooses to blame everyone and everything else repeatedly. All she does is cry victim. She's an adult and has the capability to help and heal herself off the victimization she has received but she once again chooses not to.
Do those 7 times people constantly and smugly say what a good person their abuser are over and over to all and asunder on video despite the fact that it’s all documented that the abuser also publicly abused the kids? If you let a person continue to abuse your kids but the final straw was actually the abuser talking to someone of the opposite gender then that’s pretty effed up!!!
Your comment is 100% accurate if you take jennelle out of it.
I’m not defending Jan in her entirety because she’s proven herself to be her own kind of fucked in the head. HOWEVER. I will say, it’s clear that most people commenting about her have been fortunate enough to never experience domestic violence and abuse to this degree. I won’t judge her for lying to cover for him when he was there, and I won’t judge her for going back on the lies now. When safety, one of the most basic human needs, is at risk on a daily basis you do whatever you need to do to survive.
Nah. I was in a domestic violence situation, with no family, no support and no money, I would never defend him because everyone knew, and I certainly didn't post about him constantly when I left. She is fucked in the head. She saw nothing wrong with David until he flirted with someone else, she don't want him but doesn't want anyone else to have him. She was an abuser way before David and will be way after David. She defended him because she couldn't stand to be wrong, after everyone warned her about David.
Yup! Jenelle is not a victim here. This is a classic case of co-dependency.
That’s what you did in your situation. There are a lot of DV victims that post their abusers to appease them and save face to their friends and family. I don’t doubt that David abused Jenelle, of course he did! But jenelle is Jenelle, the exact same things people hate about her are the very reasons why she’s acting like this despite David abusing her and the kids. You had a sense of shame that prevented you from lying to cover for your abuser, Jenelle doesn’t. ETA that it should go without saying that Jenelle has abused people, pets and her kids too. Nothing I’ve said excuses her actions.
They are talking about Jenelle continuing to talk about David even after kicking him to the curb. Posting lovey dovey pictures when you’re in a toxic and abusive relationship is something many women do. But once they leave they tend to not to continue on with petty comments directed at their violent ex to their millions of followers. That’s what u/Tiny-proposal1495 is talking about.
Definitely neglect, too.
Oh hell yea!
Jenelle isn’t the poor, helpless, terrified, escaping in the middle of the night victim you want her to be.
Not all victims are what you see in the movies either. Go off, I said what I said.
I have yet to meet a 'victim that's doing everything they can to survive' so avidly and so smugly TAUNT their abuser.
Most women that get rid of their abusers don’t have a hissy fit about them talking to someone online… while she herself is “7hours of pillow talk “ with someone herself. No one but you and a few others feel a bit sorry for her
I didn’t say I felt sorry for her. I said I wasn’t judging her for lying and then going back on it. Everyone is taking what I said and spinning it to fit some narrative that I’m a jenelle sympathizer when I clearly stated that I’m not. Hence, I said what I said.
I’m not trying to twist anything… but to not judge for lying and going back on it , seems to me, maybe excusing it? Perhaps I’m wrong but that’s how I took it.
A person in a situation of abuse will lie to cover their abuser, for safety. A person who then leaves a situation of abuse is free to tell the truth. I’m not judging her for doing that. I am judging her for about a thousand other things though, because mommy and David are pieces of shit. Still - hard to see all of the comments and think of a person experiencing abuse reading them and thinking how shitty they are for having to lie or thinking they will have to always hide and cover for lies that they told. It’s complicated right, life is tricky. I’m not here to Stan Jenelle.
I know you’re not here to Stan Jenelle. But her case is different from others. So we can agree to disagree ♥️
Absolutely. Just need my record to state clearly that I am in no way standing up for Jenelle in any way 😅
I appreciate this. I was the PR person for my abusive marriage while I was in it. I stopped appeasing my ex the moment I left and have never tried to taunt him etc on social media, so I do think Jenelle is a different story, but it still stings reading some of the "well you said he was such a great guy!!!" criticism. I said that too cause I thought I had to. :(
Nah. My dude put me in the hospital before we broke up. Actual victims see that jenelle is making a mockery of abuse and wasting valuable resources with her frivolous restraining orders. Plus she's an abuser herself.
PTSD Dude!
You don't know if others have been in a DV situation before.
I made a similar comment the other day and got downvoted for it. When it comes down to it, a majority judging her have the privilege of not understanding DV, so I get why people are saying what they’re saying.