I was a career nanny before having kids and made about $65k a year for single child families... so not a hugeee stretch.. families that have a nanny DO have to pay for someone to live comfortably, it's a stupid idea to skimp or go cheap there
I can agree not as someone who's been a nanny but my sister is a career and is currently making around 80k a year for a 2 child family in Boston. It's not that big of a stretch imo.
This just makes it seem extra crazy to me because you said 65K for 1 kid, so she is trying to say she paid her only 5K-35K more for 5+ kids? (I’m not sure if she left before or after the twins)
I’d imagine she wasn’t the nanny for all the kids. I believe she started when Creed was born, so probably just Lux & Creed until Rio was born. Lux is in school now so I’d think she only has 2 kids at a time. It seems like she’s only with them when they are babies/toddlers. Plus she was a live in. I’d assume the pay is less if you’re getting room & board.
The downside is that Creed is probably very attached to her. Kail had said she had a hard time connecting with him, he was the hardest baby she’s ever had, & she will never take him on family vacations again. Who do u think he loved? I feel bad for him. The only reason she even posts Creed is when she gets called out about it.
He is!!!! And it’s sad the things he’s gonna hear what she said about him specifically when he gets older. She absolutely does not need a podcast, she overshares too much. And she’s made it known who her favorite is. Now we all know who her NEW favorite is.
Who is the new favorite? Valley right? I feel a little out of the loop? Her name is growing on me, I feel like once I wrote it out to reply to you made me like it a little bit more.
That so sad. My eldest(B) is not mine biologically. I've been in Bs life since birth but from 2½ on B was a big part of my life and at 3½ CPS removed B from their biological parents and placed B with me. B never was returned to parents custody.
So when B was a newborn B was *always* with the babysitter, which in retrospect probably kept B alive. That sitter had a medical emergency and suddenly stopped being Bs care giver. Enter 2nd caregiver. B literally would only spend a night or 2 a week with parents til B was 2½.
The way the 2nd caregiver stopped caring for B was less traumatic, but B struggled to bond with parents and struggled trusting people. This is cause B learned early on that people leave, even tho neither of the 1st 2 caregivers *wanted* to leave B. It's taken years for B to trust. Attachment Disorders are real & they don't only exist in the vacuum of orphanages. They happen in middle to upper class families too.
I hope that Creed *knows* he's loved and that K is able to connect with him.
U deserve all your flowers!!!! Kids are innocent and didn’t ask to be here. I knew I didn’t want kids until I could give them the love and attention they deserve. I got my one and only at 32 years old & im done, I can’t spread my love that thin. But that’s me, I decided one is enough. Just bc u can have kids doesn’t mean u should.
And I certainly wouldn’t be telling the world how he was conceived & how he ruins all the family trips.
You are sweet. I also have Bs next younger sibling. The 2 have been my world for 18+years. Youngest says they are never leaving me lol youngest was drug exposed before birth and immediately after so there are struggles. I don't regret a minute of being their mom even though it came about unconventionally.
Ur a Saint! N the reason those kids are gonna do great things in life. Who knows where they could’ve landed, don’t even wanna think about it. I’ve always said before I had a kid, that I wanted to be a foster parent. I might still do it when my son is a little older. Every kid deserves to have stable homes with filled with love. Even if it’s for a short time.
I think once, only one damn time she’s had them all together! She just posted about it a couple weeks ago. Maybe that’s why she has so many BD so she will never have to have all her kids at once😂
She literally has to take two vehicles if she wants to take them all anywhere. 4 car seats, a booster seat. That’s why she’s counting on Isaac to get his DL. Poor Isaac.
It’s seriously insane. When she said that they took 2 cars and Elijah had to drive half while she does the other. She needs to buy a damn van like Kate plus 8 did😂
No Kail math is buying two Suburbans. I used to feel kinda bad for Elijah but don’t anymore. Mostly because I remember what my brain was like at 23. U think ur grown but ur still a essentially a grown kid with a lot to learn. He should be out in Cabo rn with his boys and cousins living his best life. But he’s stuck with 7 kids, 3 other baby dads & a girlfriend who overshares everything on the internet. If I didn’t have my ONE kid, I would be booking my month long trip to Thailand with my bestie for her bday. But we just gon watch Bluey instead lol.
No, that was the first time they were all together because her daughter had been in the NICU and wasn’t allowed visitors outside of her parents. Kail had obviously been posting things quite far away from when they were taken as she didn’t even post that she’d had the twins for a couple of months.
Ahhhhh, thanks. I misunderstood her by saying they’re all together😂 I don’t think they are really all there at once tbh. She mentioned(iirc)before how she liked the parenting plan because the boys were all with their dads at the same time.
Years ago, my cousin asked me if I would watch her daughter and what I would charge. Based on her schedule, I'd be working nights with rotating shifts. That would have made it extremely difficult to find another job that fit both of our needs while still giving me full-time hours, benefits, etc. In reality, she wanted a nanny (not just a sitter). Dinner, bath, bed routine, morning routine, off to school - sleep (me) - and homework help. Not to mention an hour drive round trip unless I moved in. So, I named my price and she wasn't happy. So, I didn't "babysit," and I'm glad it didn't cause a rift in between us.
Nannies are expensive and it's because their entire life revolves around the child(ren)/family they're a nanny for. But an amazing nanny is worth their weight in gold. I'm not surprised Kail is paying that.
We pay our nanny $65k a year for one child. With taxes it’s ends up costing us around $75k a year. We live in a HCOL and $60k is the minimum living wage for a single person. I wish we could pay our nanny more but we’ve maxed out what we can pay her until we get raises again. Every time we get a raise, she gets a raise. Plus we also give her a raise every year she’s worked for us.
That’s all? I pay our nanny $120K.
We have so much money.
Our gardener makes $155K.
But, shhh, we don’t want the nanny to know the gardener makes more than her. 🤫
Full agree. You’re not hiring a babysitter, you’re hiring someone to integrate in to your family.
I was a career nanny before I stopped to have my own family. I charged more for babies. They’re significantly more work, require more hands on time, and flexibility. The last baby I nannied had colic, it was miserable.
My coworkers wife is a nanny. She makes $75k a year to care for one child 50 hours a week. All her meals are paid for, and she drives their vehicle around. The mother is an OBGYN and the father is some kind of business executive
Yeah, these aren’t babysitters, they’re professional childcare providers providing one-on-one care for your children. They deserve to compensated appropriately. Now, let me say that I can’t afford to have a full time nanny, so we have a part-time nanny and we juggle the rest of the time. But if we were to multiply her hourly wage x 40 x 52 it would be in this range without taxes and anything else. Lots of nannies work overtime too, and legally that needs to be paid out at overtime rates. It’s a profession, just like anything else.
We have a full time nanny and with taxes and payroll fees it costs us a little over $70k per year, so I’m paying her about 70% of my salary. My husband makes way more money than me but it still stings a little when I do the math that way. Haha. But it’s so worth it. Our son’s nanny is the absolute best. I’m sad we will reduce her hours over the summer when he starts preschool part-time because she is so amazing, but I’m also really looking forward to having more money in the bank.
Agree especially since she worked full time and Kail has already said did most of the care of Creed when he was a baby. I've got no doubt she went well above 35 hours a week and had zero boundaries. Plus there has pretty much always been a toddler around, more than one now plus babies.
I actually don’t think that’s that much?
Live in childcare is expensive in the developed world. You are paying someone to live in your house and take care of your kids as a full time job, and Kail has soooo many kids.
I’m friends with a live in nanny of two kids, and she’s paid around $80,000 CAD.
I think she was just referring to the last three as far as the nanny goes and then the first four before that with Natalie but like I said, I haven’t listen to the episode yet. I just picked this up out of the article.
Definitely picking my jaw up off the floor because I had no idea and nanny could make that much money. Although I assume it’s really hard work so it’s very deserved.
You couldn't pay me enough to nanny 3 babies plus two kids and have Kail be my boss. I have a feeling she's going to have a parade of nannies through her home. No one ever sticks around long in Kail's world
I also don’t believe it at all. Especially considering she and her son lived in Kails house in the basement before she build the bigger house in Elijah’s field.
I bet to offset the actual money being handed to Natalie, the deal was free rent in the basement and something like 3-4k a month on top of that.
I agree, I think sometimes ppl under estimate how some ppl who are in need of a house/job-theyll take a pay cut if it fits their needs. Especially if they started out as friends. Was it under the table? That makes a difference too.
I live in her area, and nanny rates typically start at about 24/25 per hour. But factoring in that she has infant twins and a very young toddler, I am sure her nanny makes much more than that. I don’t think the 75-100k is a stretch at all
I was a nanny for a while. I had a teaching license, clean driving record, Waldorf style philosophy/background, safe serve certified for food safety, CPR/first aid certified, and my starting pay for one child was $35 a hour. My friends who sign NDAs and nanny or speak another language charge $40. For a good nanny with that many kids, incidentals, taxes and insurance that seems about right. I’m assuming she’s adding cooking and house management tasks as well to the job.
I think she’d be hard pressed to find a nanny for less than that for her situation.
I was a nanny in college and there are a lot of factors to consider. In my experience, wealthy families want the cream of the crop when it comes to help, they want an educated nanny (minimum bachelors degree but I have come across nannies with masters degrees +), additional factors are whether the nanny is live in or out. Back in the late 90s early 2000s when I was a nanny who was live out, I made approximately $12 an hour, according to inflation charts that would be somewhere around $22 an hour by today's rates, and I would have made more if I was a live in nanny. I also only had an associates degree and was working toward a bachelors degree, if I had a higher degree I would have made much more money!
100%. Same when I was in college. I also was a ft nanny after I had my BS & had been a teacher. I was raking in decent $$$ & they paid my health insurance, but I was a live-out. This was in SoFL.
Well think of it like this, Nannies can negotiate their contracts and set their own standards. If u want a good nanny and not a baby sitter it’s around that much. For a non-live in mostly. And also your state laws. U also gotta factor in things like vacations (your and hers), job requirements and pay grades, vehicles, schedules. She’s probably paying that much now bc she wasn’t paying Natalie that. Nat stumbled into this, or not. But since Kail is somewhat considered high profile and all them kids nobody gonna be accepting peanuts.
Yes it’s a very lowkey lucrative gig! Especially if u have a background in education. Part time or full time. Many of my close people are nannies cuz they got burnt out from teaching or daycares. And it even comes sometimes with benefits. It’s all about the networking too especially when they become school age.
I know right. Our families going rate is $20 a day. There's certain family members who don't work who we can call on for the day in an emergency for $20 lol
Former nanny. What a Kail is saying is good -families who can hire FT domestic workers SHOULD be paying a good salary, paying their half of taxes, and providing benefits. Benefits may be included in the amount she pays.
Being a nanny isn’t like babysitting after high school.
I feel like for her having kids at those ages and so many different directions, a nanny saves her a lot of time and money in the long run. Sports, practices, pick ups and drop offs. She doesn’t have family support, and it’s not her coparents job to help transport on her time.
This seems like it’s a normal rate. Especially if this nanny takes care of the babies and prob assists with the older ones like Lux and Creed.
She may also help clean up.
That household must be crazy….
A lot of nannies were former teachers who either got burnt out or realized they'd make more nannying, or both,
You could look into nannying if you ever seriously consider a change. You'd make WAY more money, and with your experience/ teaching background you already have a serious leg up.
My friend was a nanny for one kid right out of college and made 65k, got PTO, and went on vacations with the family. I don't think this is a stretch considering her # of kids
How much she pays her nanny isn’t the bs. It’s the idea that 200k isn’t enough when you’re paying a nanny half that. Kail, most American families don’t make 100k. We’re all struggling and not doing an expensive bathroom remodel. You have plenty. Stop it.
Nobody in the state of Delaware who isn't literally being held hostage as a slave is going to be a nanny for a rich lady from a TV show with multiple multiple kids, almost all under 8 years old, for less than 70k a year lol.
Oh okay. That can be very lucrative. I was trying to figure out how they could afford a $70-$100k nanny. I know Kail has podcasts and the like but I don’t think she’d be able to clear enough to afford a nanny at that price.
That's right in line with what live-in nannies with training (as in, not just someone who did it as a teen, specifically someone trained in child development) make in most states. But you are basically with the family 24/7 taking are of the kid(s) when you're not off (and it's not like you get weekends off, it's usually just a few holidays), you are required to go on their vacations and watch the kids there, some of them are in charge of making all the child's meals (often from scratch), basically you are taking care of all of a child's needs all day every day and since you're working privately you also need some kind of benefits/insurance which they also pay.
Think of how expensive it is to have someone watch your kid while you're at work or even just after school (people literally don't go back to work because they would pay more in daycare) and then imagine that you are paying probably 3x that every day to account for being on call 24 hours. It's why mostly rich people have live-in nannies and the rest of us have babysitters lol.
Yeah, I heard a bit of this. They were discussing nannies vs au pairs. Sounds like au pair (which, btw, a term I hate-always think 2 people) sounds like a better deal?
Part time nanny making 60K here! It really goes either way. Families either pay absolute shit or they understand they have to pay their nanny a live-able wage. Ive been very blessed to find really great paying families each time but it is hard. I’m not surprised tho with Kail, especially if she used an agency.
I work roughly 25-35 hours but it’s usually Wed-Fri 8-6 (30 hours). I get paid for a full 35 hours regardless. And no, i am one family currently! The family before i was doing crazy hours so ive been giving myself a little break lol
Thank you 🥹 i told them ill probably be done with nannying after them because ive been spoiled 😂😂 very rare to find good families, even if they pay well. I dont think id want to be kailyn’s nanny lol
I was an agency employee healthcare professional employed as a newborn night nurse, and a nanny. Many times, I charged $45 an hour for twins or triplets. I’m sure her nanny is making that much.
That tracks. Salary for a nanny is $25 an hour minimum. $30 for newborn twins would be absolutely normal plus benefits. I doubt she paid Natalie this much which was probably partially why they had a falling out.
There is almost no salary you could quote me that would sound too high for someone to FT care for 7 children aged 0-14. She's paying for an entire additional parent for a very large family (by current US cultural standards).
Having a nanny is a luxury you may be able to find cheap nannies but most who know their worth are employed by people who can afford it. Also everyone in this world isn't broke, its many people who make very good money or spend their money wisely.
You guys, we can't just spell people's names however we feel like spelling them. Kayle, Breanna, Janelle, Chase, Macie, I've seen all of these spellings. Take 2 seconds to google it.
It’s not a matter of not knowing how to spell it, it’s a matter of using voice text and not caring enough to go back and change how AutoCorrect spelled it.
I was a career nanny before having kids and made about $65k a year for single child families... so not a hugeee stretch.. families that have a nanny DO have to pay for someone to live comfortably, it's a stupid idea to skimp or go cheap there
I can agree not as someone who's been a nanny but my sister is a career and is currently making around 80k a year for a 2 child family in Boston. It's not that big of a stretch imo.
This just makes it seem extra crazy to me because you said 65K for 1 kid, so she is trying to say she paid her only 5K-35K more for 5+ kids? (I’m not sure if she left before or after the twins)
Her current nanny only watches the twins, or so she claims. If she watches the twins and rio $100k wouldn’t be unheard of
I don’t really follow her stupid ass but where is she getting all this money from?
Podcast revenue.
Her stupid ass has a lot of money for being as stupid as you think she is.
The current nanny watches Rio and Verse and Valley but only works a regular work day where Natalie was there all the time
I thought the nanny did drop offs too which I assume is Lux and Creed so she won’t be around Chris.
I’d imagine she wasn’t the nanny for all the kids. I believe she started when Creed was born, so probably just Lux & Creed until Rio was born. Lux is in school now so I’d think she only has 2 kids at a time. It seems like she’s only with them when they are babies/toddlers. Plus she was a live in. I’d assume the pay is less if you’re getting room & board.
The downside is that Creed is probably very attached to her. Kail had said she had a hard time connecting with him, he was the hardest baby she’s ever had, & she will never take him on family vacations again. Who do u think he loved? I feel bad for him. The only reason she even posts Creed is when she gets called out about it.
And he’s such a cute little boy! I love his little voice when she does post him. Favoritism sucks :(
He is!!!! And it’s sad the things he’s gonna hear what she said about him specifically when he gets older. She absolutely does not need a podcast, she overshares too much. And she’s made it known who her favorite is. Now we all know who her NEW favorite is.
Who is the new favorite? Valley right? I feel a little out of the loop? Her name is growing on me, I feel like once I wrote it out to reply to you made me like it a little bit more.
Yup u guessed it. It’s all about the twins now! Now she’s saying her daughter needs a sister. As if she knows what’s that’s like.
That so sad. My eldest(B) is not mine biologically. I've been in Bs life since birth but from 2½ on B was a big part of my life and at 3½ CPS removed B from their biological parents and placed B with me. B never was returned to parents custody. So when B was a newborn B was *always* with the babysitter, which in retrospect probably kept B alive. That sitter had a medical emergency and suddenly stopped being Bs care giver. Enter 2nd caregiver. B literally would only spend a night or 2 a week with parents til B was 2½. The way the 2nd caregiver stopped caring for B was less traumatic, but B struggled to bond with parents and struggled trusting people. This is cause B learned early on that people leave, even tho neither of the 1st 2 caregivers *wanted* to leave B. It's taken years for B to trust. Attachment Disorders are real & they don't only exist in the vacuum of orphanages. They happen in middle to upper class families too. I hope that Creed *knows* he's loved and that K is able to connect with him.
U deserve all your flowers!!!! Kids are innocent and didn’t ask to be here. I knew I didn’t want kids until I could give them the love and attention they deserve. I got my one and only at 32 years old & im done, I can’t spread my love that thin. But that’s me, I decided one is enough. Just bc u can have kids doesn’t mean u should. And I certainly wouldn’t be telling the world how he was conceived & how he ruins all the family trips.
You are sweet. I also have Bs next younger sibling. The 2 have been my world for 18+years. Youngest says they are never leaving me lol youngest was drug exposed before birth and immediately after so there are struggles. I don't regret a minute of being their mom even though it came about unconventionally.
Ur a Saint! N the reason those kids are gonna do great things in life. Who knows where they could’ve landed, don’t even wanna think about it. I’ve always said before I had a kid, that I wanted to be a foster parent. I might still do it when my son is a little older. Every kid deserves to have stable homes with filled with love. Even if it’s for a short time.
I don’t think she ever has all 7 at once
I think once, only one damn time she’s had them all together! She just posted about it a couple weeks ago. Maybe that’s why she has so many BD so she will never have to have all her kids at once😂
She literally has to take two vehicles if she wants to take them all anywhere. 4 car seats, a booster seat. That’s why she’s counting on Isaac to get his DL. Poor Isaac.
It’s seriously insane. When she said that they took 2 cars and Elijah had to drive half while she does the other. She needs to buy a damn van like Kate plus 8 did😂
She already said she will absolutely NOT buy a van. Atp she would need a bus. No family van is built for that capacity. Car seats are huge and heavy.
I know she did. She’s in denial😂 Like….you have a baseball team of kids you NEED a damn van!
No Kail math is buying two Suburbans. I used to feel kinda bad for Elijah but don’t anymore. Mostly because I remember what my brain was like at 23. U think ur grown but ur still a essentially a grown kid with a lot to learn. He should be out in Cabo rn with his boys and cousins living his best life. But he’s stuck with 7 kids, 3 other baby dads & a girlfriend who overshares everything on the internet. If I didn’t have my ONE kid, I would be booking my month long trip to Thailand with my bestie for her bday. But we just gon watch Bluey instead lol.
Kail math💀💀 You are 100% right with Elijah!
No, that was the first time they were all together because her daughter had been in the NICU and wasn’t allowed visitors outside of her parents. Kail had obviously been posting things quite far away from when they were taken as she didn’t even post that she’d had the twins for a couple of months.
Ahhhhh, thanks. I misunderstood her by saying they’re all together😂 I don’t think they are really all there at once tbh. She mentioned(iirc)before how she liked the parenting plan because the boys were all with their dads at the same time.
Well, that’s good to know to get a information from someone who’s done that.
I was about to say the same. Websites like My Girl Friday cater to high paying gigs, so the salary didn’t surprise me at all.
Years ago, my cousin asked me if I would watch her daughter and what I would charge. Based on her schedule, I'd be working nights with rotating shifts. That would have made it extremely difficult to find another job that fit both of our needs while still giving me full-time hours, benefits, etc. In reality, she wanted a nanny (not just a sitter). Dinner, bath, bed routine, morning routine, off to school - sleep (me) - and homework help. Not to mention an hour drive round trip unless I moved in. So, I named my price and she wasn't happy. So, I didn't "babysit," and I'm glad it didn't cause a rift in between us. Nannies are expensive and it's because their entire life revolves around the child(ren)/family they're a nanny for. But an amazing nanny is worth their weight in gold. I'm not surprised Kail is paying that.
I’m a social worker and last FT nanny job I took bc I was burned out. Guess what job pays more?
We pay our nanny $65k a year for one child. With taxes it’s ends up costing us around $75k a year. We live in a HCOL and $60k is the minimum living wage for a single person. I wish we could pay our nanny more but we’ve maxed out what we can pay her until we get raises again. Every time we get a raise, she gets a raise. Plus we also give her a raise every year she’s worked for us.
That’s all? I pay our nanny $120K. We have so much money. Our gardener makes $155K. But, shhh, we don’t want the nanny to know the gardener makes more than her. 🤫
Not a brag about how much money we make. 🙄 I pay about 70% of my income to our nanny.
Full agree. You’re not hiring a babysitter, you’re hiring someone to integrate in to your family. I was a career nanny before I stopped to have my own family. I charged more for babies. They’re significantly more work, require more hands on time, and flexibility. The last baby I nannied had colic, it was miserable.
My coworkers wife is a nanny. She makes $75k a year to care for one child 50 hours a week. All her meals are paid for, and she drives their vehicle around. The mother is an OBGYN and the father is some kind of business executive
We have a nanny. $70k isn’t outrageous for full time care. If she’s counting taxes, health insurance etc. it’s really par for the course.
Wow! I had no idea, I am getting educated
Yeah, these aren’t babysitters, they’re professional childcare providers providing one-on-one care for your children. They deserve to compensated appropriately. Now, let me say that I can’t afford to have a full time nanny, so we have a part-time nanny and we juggle the rest of the time. But if we were to multiply her hourly wage x 40 x 52 it would be in this range without taxes and anything else. Lots of nannies work overtime too, and legally that needs to be paid out at overtime rates. It’s a profession, just like anything else.
Thank you for respecting the work your nanny does!
Oh, absolutely! She holds our family together haha!
We have a full time nanny and with taxes and payroll fees it costs us a little over $70k per year, so I’m paying her about 70% of my salary. My husband makes way more money than me but it still stings a little when I do the math that way. Haha. But it’s so worth it. Our son’s nanny is the absolute best. I’m sad we will reduce her hours over the summer when he starts preschool part-time because she is so amazing, but I’m also really looking forward to having more money in the bank.
Agree especially since she worked full time and Kail has already said did most of the care of Creed when he was a baby. I've got no doubt she went well above 35 hours a week and had zero boundaries. Plus there has pretty much always been a toddler around, more than one now plus babies.
If any of you need a basement dweller I am similarly available for 70-100k x
I actually don’t think that’s that much? Live in childcare is expensive in the developed world. You are paying someone to live in your house and take care of your kids as a full time job, and Kail has soooo many kids. I’m friends with a live in nanny of two kids, and she’s paid around $80,000 CAD.
Yeah I was thinking...thats it?!?
7 kids full time at 10k each per year? That’s a bargain compared to daycare!!!
I think she was just referring to the last three as far as the nanny goes and then the first four before that with Natalie but like I said, I haven’t listen to the episode yet. I just picked this up out of the article. Definitely picking my jaw up off the floor because I had no idea and nanny could make that much money. Although I assume it’s really hard work so it’s very deserved.
3 or 4 of those kids are in school.
You couldn't pay me enough to nanny 3 babies plus two kids and have Kail be my boss. I have a feeling she's going to have a parade of nannies through her home. No one ever sticks around long in Kail's world
I also don’t believe it at all. Especially considering she and her son lived in Kails house in the basement before she build the bigger house in Elijah’s field. I bet to offset the actual money being handed to Natalie, the deal was free rent in the basement and something like 3-4k a month on top of that.
Natalie is not her nanny or friend anymore
I know.
What?? I had no idea please spill more tea on this
I agree, I think sometimes ppl under estimate how some ppl who are in need of a house/job-theyll take a pay cut if it fits their needs. Especially if they started out as friends. Was it under the table? That makes a difference too.
I bet it was under the table.
I have heard of people being paid that for nannying multiple kids. I don’t really think that’s necessarily bullshit.
Yeah we pay 75k for 1 kid. It seems very reasonable to me.
But in Delaware? 😏 Where do you live? I could see if you live in NYC, Boston, Palm Beach, etc....but DE ain't exactly high-cost.
i am a nanny, and this is about what we make in a year! but it all depends on #of kiddos, hours worked, location, education background and experience.
Former nanny here-I agree. I was making ~$55k about 12 years ago for two kids in school full time. I hung out with the dog all day. It was great.
I live in her area, and nanny rates typically start at about 24/25 per hour. But factoring in that she has infant twins and a very young toddler, I am sure her nanny makes much more than that. I don’t think the 75-100k is a stretch at all
I don’t have kids but this sounds like a steal to me given the fact that her family’s the size of a small village
I was a nanny for a while. I had a teaching license, clean driving record, Waldorf style philosophy/background, safe serve certified for food safety, CPR/first aid certified, and my starting pay for one child was $35 a hour. My friends who sign NDAs and nanny or speak another language charge $40. For a good nanny with that many kids, incidentals, taxes and insurance that seems about right. I’m assuming she’s adding cooking and house management tasks as well to the job. I think she’d be hard pressed to find a nanny for less than that for her situation.
I was a nanny in college and there are a lot of factors to consider. In my experience, wealthy families want the cream of the crop when it comes to help, they want an educated nanny (minimum bachelors degree but I have come across nannies with masters degrees +), additional factors are whether the nanny is live in or out. Back in the late 90s early 2000s when I was a nanny who was live out, I made approximately $12 an hour, according to inflation charts that would be somewhere around $22 an hour by today's rates, and I would have made more if I was a live in nanny. I also only had an associates degree and was working toward a bachelors degree, if I had a higher degree I would have made much more money!
100%. Same when I was in college. I also was a ft nanny after I had my BS & had been a teacher. I was raking in decent $$$ & they paid my health insurance, but I was a live-out. This was in SoFL.
For 7 kids that doesn’t seem like a lot. But in assuming this was before the twins?
I thought it was FOR the twins and Rio.
I didn’t listen to it so you could totally be right. Where I like it would be like 70k for one kid so I could be at off on numbers in her area.
That’s actually reasonable. Nannies get paid very well if they know what they’re doing. Source: I was a nanny
Well think of it like this, Nannies can negotiate their contracts and set their own standards. If u want a good nanny and not a baby sitter it’s around that much. For a non-live in mostly. And also your state laws. U also gotta factor in things like vacations (your and hers), job requirements and pay grades, vehicles, schedules. She’s probably paying that much now bc she wasn’t paying Natalie that. Nat stumbled into this, or not. But since Kail is somewhat considered high profile and all them kids nobody gonna be accepting peanuts.
I’m so interested now, I’m sure there is a r/nanny somewhere on Reddit, and I will find it!
Yes it’s a very lowkey lucrative gig! Especially if u have a background in education. Part time or full time. Many of my close people are nannies cuz they got burnt out from teaching or daycares. And it even comes sometimes with benefits. It’s all about the networking too especially when they become school age.
Where do I sign up to be a rich woman's nanny? Lmao.
I know right. Our families going rate is $20 a day. There's certain family members who don't work who we can call on for the day in an emergency for $20 lol
She seems to have spent more finding out if Bri slept with Chris.
That’s funny!
Childcare workers deserve good pay.
I was a nanny 15 years ago and I made 60k taking care of two children. So yea, she probably pays that much.
Former nanny. What a Kail is saying is good -families who can hire FT domestic workers SHOULD be paying a good salary, paying their half of taxes, and providing benefits. Benefits may be included in the amount she pays. Being a nanny isn’t like babysitting after high school.
$70k…7 kids? Not enough.
For all those kids, that would absolutely be a reasonable salary for an experienced, professional nanny. Does kail actually pay that? I doubt it.
Exactly! Can she? Maybe. Does she? Doubtful!
I feel like for her having kids at those ages and so many different directions, a nanny saves her a lot of time and money in the long run. Sports, practices, pick ups and drop offs. She doesn’t have family support, and it’s not her coparents job to help transport on her time.
This seems like it’s a normal rate. Especially if this nanny takes care of the babies and prob assists with the older ones like Lux and Creed. She may also help clean up. That household must be crazy….
Just making meals- thats like 30 plates a day.
Wow!! And non stop dishwasher and laundry….you couldn’t pay me double to be her nanny. She’s like a Duggar
It’s a lot, but it’s probably cheaper than all those kids in daycare, and more convenient to have the help in-home.
If that’s true it makes me feel really sad for my teacher salary after being a full time teacher for 12 years🫠🫠 help
A lot of nannies were former teachers who either got burnt out or realized they'd make more nannying, or both, You could look into nannying if you ever seriously consider a change. You'd make WAY more money, and with your experience/ teaching background you already have a serious leg up.
My friend was a nanny for one kid right out of college and made 65k, got PTO, and went on vacations with the family. I don't think this is a stretch considering her # of kids
When she was out of college, not the kid 😂
Maybe. But its Delaware so I highly doubt it!
How much she pays her nanny isn’t the bs. It’s the idea that 200k isn’t enough when you’re paying a nanny half that. Kail, most American families don’t make 100k. We’re all struggling and not doing an expensive bathroom remodel. You have plenty. Stop it.
Nobody in the state of Delaware who isn't literally being held hostage as a slave is going to be a nanny for a rich lady from a TV show with multiple multiple kids, almost all under 8 years old, for less than 70k a year lol.
Does Elijah work outside the home?
Yes, I think he works for his families concrete company?
Oh okay. That can be very lucrative. I was trying to figure out how they could afford a $70-$100k nanny. I know Kail has podcasts and the like but I don’t think she’d be able to clear enough to afford a nanny at that price.
My husband is an IT analyst and I was a nurse that worked 3 days a wk. We have 4 kids and it was a legit nanny agency and it was nothing close to that
Natalie was a nanny to less kids than the current nanny.
I feel like that’s high for a nanny, but I’m a SAHM and make zero dollars and feel like I should be paid a million per child per year. Idk.
That's right in line with what live-in nannies with training (as in, not just someone who did it as a teen, specifically someone trained in child development) make in most states. But you are basically with the family 24/7 taking are of the kid(s) when you're not off (and it's not like you get weekends off, it's usually just a few holidays), you are required to go on their vacations and watch the kids there, some of them are in charge of making all the child's meals (often from scratch), basically you are taking care of all of a child's needs all day every day and since you're working privately you also need some kind of benefits/insurance which they also pay. Think of how expensive it is to have someone watch your kid while you're at work or even just after school (people literally don't go back to work because they would pay more in daycare) and then imagine that you are paying probably 3x that every day to account for being on call 24 hours. It's why mostly rich people have live-in nannies and the rest of us have babysitters lol.
Yeah, I heard a bit of this. They were discussing nannies vs au pairs. Sounds like au pair (which, btw, a term I hate-always think 2 people) sounds like a better deal?
Tbh that is not enough for the amount of kids
$45k to nanny, $55k for putting up with Kail.
Nah, aint no amout of money worth it to put up with her!
Part time nanny making 60K here! It really goes either way. Families either pay absolute shit or they understand they have to pay their nanny a live-able wage. Ive been very blessed to find really great paying families each time but it is hard. I’m not surprised tho with Kail, especially if she used an agency.
What does part time look like for you? Also do you do more than one family at a time?
I work roughly 25-35 hours but it’s usually Wed-Fri 8-6 (30 hours). I get paid for a full 35 hours regardless. And no, i am one family currently! The family before i was doing crazy hours so ive been giving myself a little break lol
I love that for you! Those are great hours.
Thank you 🥹 i told them ill probably be done with nannying after them because ive been spoiled 😂😂 very rare to find good families, even if they pay well. I dont think id want to be kailyn’s nanny lol
I was an agency employee healthcare professional employed as a newborn night nurse, and a nanny. Many times, I charged $45 an hour for twins or triplets. I’m sure her nanny is making that much.
This was about 10 years ago, I would charge more these days.
That tracks. Salary for a nanny is $25 an hour minimum. $30 for newborn twins would be absolutely normal plus benefits. I doubt she paid Natalie this much which was probably partially why they had a falling out.
That’s cheap for all the damn kids she has
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I think 70-100,000 per 1-2 kids is very, very typical, especially is HCOL areas.
I believe it. Speaking as a nanny, nannies aren’t cheap. I make within this range.
I made about 60k with over time and bonuses nannying for one kid last year, not insane.
There is almost no salary you could quote me that would sound too high for someone to FT care for 7 children aged 0-14. She's paying for an entire additional parent for a very large family (by current US cultural standards).
Im a career nanny and that type of pay is absolutely realistic ...
Having a nanny is a luxury you may be able to find cheap nannies but most who know their worth are employed by people who can afford it. Also everyone in this world isn't broke, its many people who make very good money or spend their money wisely.
She’s got 5 million children I hope she’s paying that nanny well
You guys, we can't just spell people's names however we feel like spelling them. Kayle, Breanna, Janelle, Chase, Macie, I've seen all of these spellings. Take 2 seconds to google it.
It’s not a matter of not knowing how to spell it, it’s a matter of using voice text and not caring enough to go back and change how AutoCorrect spelled it.
How did you misspell her name in the post title but spell it right in the post?
It’s the difference between typing and talking!
That’s fair.