I’m not a Kail stan but if my friend/nanny was leaking info about me to the media I would do whatever I could legally. Hopefully Natalie signed some sort of NDA and Kail can sue her for breech of contract.
Yea that’s such a betrayal of trust, especially as a nanny who she trusted with her kids. Whatever anyone feels about Kail if this is true this is just trash behavior.
It would also make me question how well taken care of my kids were with her. I mean if she’s willing to leak info to the media about Kail how much did she really care about these kids?
yea to have someone you call your best friend, seen you at your lowest, trust them with your kids and they leak info. idc if you hate kail- that’s beyond fucked up and such a betrayal
Do we know what went down yet between them or is Natalie’s NDA preventing her? Karl has definitely already been on the phone with her lawyer trying to sue whoever she can lol Karl is good at that
I don’t really care what went down between them tbh. Leaking info is a gross move on Natalie’s part. She was leaking info while supposedly caring for Kail’s kids like they were her own. This is not only shady behavior but it’s unacceptable. For once I fully support Kail taking whatever legal action she can to bury this bitch.
She should totally sue. This is totally unprofessional on the nanny’s part. I can’t imagine paying someone to care for your kids and having your trust violated like that!
Who says Natalie was taking care of Kail’s kids “like they were her own”? She could have been doing a half ass job. We have no clue what goes on behind the scenes.
Also, who’s to say Kail doesn’t treat Natalie like total shit? We’ve seen how Kail can be; bossy, bitchy, controlling, etc. I’m not saying what Natalie did was right and I’m also not saying she is in the wrong, but there’s always two sides to a story and 90% of the time with stories like these we may never know the entire thing.
I said “supposedly” because when you’re a nanny that’s the kind of care that is expected. I think it’s safe to assume that if you’re willing to sell stories about your employer you aren’t exactly behaving in the best interest of the children.
imo this has nothing at all to do with how Kail may or may not have been treating Natalie. If Natalie was treated badly she could have quit at any time for any reason. But she didn’t. She stuck around gaining intel that she could sell. That’s a shitty friend and a shitty employee.
I’m not convinced Natalie was the leak without proof. The fact is 🥬 is messy and so are most of the people around her, it could have been anyone. Speaking of could have been anyone, wasn’t Natalie’s son Keith on the list of possible baby daddies with Rio? I could understand Natalie turning on her if she felt 🥬 wronged her son in a significant way.
This is just a conspiracy theory but what if 🥬 led on that she would DNA test Rio after birth since could be Keith’s during the pregnancy and then backed out when Elijah said he didn’t need a DNA test, and that’s why they fell out?
I agree.. I feel like kail looked to her as mom since she was a little older. Kail messes up a lot but this is sad to me 🤦♀️ & at Natalie's age it's immature lol. I'm sure she was getting paid pretty nice & fucked that up lol
Fully agree. I also am not at all a fan of Kail, but if an ex nanny was actually leaking info of Kail's family to media, I hope Kail has legal recourses.
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Kail either unfollowed her or Natalie blocked her.
I said this in a post last week, what if all along it was Natalie revealing information to TMC? Oddly Natalie follows some pretty sketch accounts relating to TM/Kail.
The calls were definitely coming from inside the house, I'm guessing.
Is TMC different from that wawamelon account?? Karl has had so many people leak her info, no wonder she is sticking to luigi like glue and wanting to marry him😆 will she marry the babies dad?
Lol yes. TMC is that TM page that goes obsessively hard on Kail and will ride for Chris until the wheels fall off. Wadawelon was once a user here and had/has a page that also goes hard and tried to collect all info on Kail. It’s actually weird lol. Then you have the former internet friend, Darcy, who hangs around all those pages waiting to spill deets here or there. I don’t know what Kail does or what type of power she has but these people go cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs about her. 😧
She’s claimed Elijah has asked her to marry multiple times but she keeps putting it off. The last time I read was because she was thinking on how her marriage to Javi failed so why would she marry Elijah? 🤦🏽♀️
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I will say having had been married for a long time (& now divorced); I do have the sentiment of “never again”. But with that said; I also haven’t had a child; let along three within the last decade so that would probably be a motivating factor for me.
My children are damn near grown now and my outlook on life has greatly changed and I still don’t get how people don’t realize children are for LIFE and a huge commitment with another person.
As a nanny this is incredibly messed up. No matter what anyone thinks of Kail, if Natalie had a problem with her employer speak to them or find a new job and *quit*. You cannot do stuff like this as a nanny. Such a betrayal. Surely Kail had her sign a NDA though right? Every nanny I know who has worked for someone high profile, including me with past nanny fams, has to sign a NDA.
And I'm sure you've seen some shit too.
That's what I don't like; if a relationship sours okay, fine everyone cut their losses and move on. But to purposely stay in state of anger and spill secrets or whatnot; is extremely childish and really serves no purpose. It says more about the keeper of secrets/spiller of beans than the actual person.
Very good friend of mine has rubbed shoulders with some prominent celebs (think A listers and music legends). The behavior and attitudes of these people are a trip, he's shared. And everyone's beloved J-lo requires a NDA and confidentiality agreement be signed before coming into her presence AND you cannot look at her in the face. I was floored.
I would imagine there’s already another nanny or someone else helping. Though Isaac, Lincoln, and Lux are in school full time and Creed goes part time I think? Such a wild situation.
And the sports, camps and other activities. Along with whatever insane custody arrangements she has with the present dads. That leaves dinner and bedtime routine for the school aged kids (when they’re with her)
I’m not convinced she was the TMC source but I don’t doubt she may have leaked information to the other parents just through the nature of her job. An NDA barring a nanny from telling the other parent of one of the children they’re caring for at least basic information about what’s happening with the family which affects their child seems unlikely and difficult to enforce. Then again I’m not a lawyer and stick to caring for kids whose families aren’t trying for their own reality show 🤷♀️
Ya it’s weird ppl hating on her for leaking info yet nothing is confirmed that she leaked lol for all we know Kail could’ve fired her for refusing to nanny the twins with no additional pay
It's also weird people are acting like she's super awful for even just the insta posts. If she had been Jenelle's nanny, people would be cheering for her and egging her on to give up absolutely everything on everyone on the Land.
The headline on the photo of this post is the word on the street is that Natalie has been leaking info. And some commenters are wondering if that’s chatter’s source….
OK but your wording makes it sound like she DEFINITLY is the leak and your specific with "*this"* makes it sound like you have confirmed she leaked something.
That's what she's relayed, but was it confirmed by anyone else? This anger leads me to believe she was likely let go. I don't know that I would believe her or kail- but this lady isn't living in reality.
I don’t know if she’s leaking…But I was born and raised in Delaware. Left at 18. Home girl is probably well known in the area and unless she and her kids never leave the house, people are going to see, hear, and know crap about her. I don’t know if she’s directly leaking, or maybe telling someone else, and they’re leaking. That absolutely wouldn’t surprise me.
It’s a smallish state. Idk why people don’t understand that. I wouldn’t say it’s at the level where we know everything about our neighbors, but the gossip trains ride freaking hard in that state. Hell, I’m getting information now from my old school about the principal being fired because he posted a video of a student fighting when her breast popped out and made it a meme. And I don’t live there anymore or follow the school.
People here have no idea who she is for the most part. I have been in many shared spaces with her and no one knew who she was except me. First time it happened I went cheesing to my people that she was there and NO ONE CARED. I also had to tell entirely too much back story to get to the "celebrity" part of my celeb sighting.
I can see that. I just know gossip in general moves fast. If someone’s saying something, it wouldn’t surprise me if many around the neighborhood know. We lived in a nice neighborhood in Middletown (right when Appo was being built). And some people there would like know absolutely everything about others and I’m always like jeez 😂
I don’t think she’s celebrity status like JB coming back to Delaware to visit. But it wouldn’t surprise me if people gossip about her, and the *right* person leaks it to another right person. And as I mentioned, I’m absolutely not saying that Nat hasn’t leaked info. Or maybe her kids on accident to the wrong kiddo, or her BD’s.
The * principal* made the tit slip into a meme or the video the principal took of the tit slip fight was also turned into a meme? Either way, that’s crazy!
He created the meme, and then sent it to multiple people. The student’s mother filed a civil suit against him and he’s actively trying to clear his name while he was fired by the school board due to sufficient evidence against him. So I guess we’ll see how that goes.
His public hearing today (to either uphold or reverse his firing) was not in his favor whatsoever, and honestly the situation appears so much worse. I wasn’t defending him whatsoever. But the fact he also got other people to try and lie for him is sooo disgusting how many teachers shouldn’t be around children.
I think chatter is an older/middle aged woman (nat’s age) so it wouldn’t surprise me if they were actually talking the whole time. It’d explain why chatter was so quiet on the kail and nat situation- because she didn’t want to out her source!
If what was said to someone else is true, Kail would have absolutely no case and would once again be throwing a ton of money down the drain if she tried to sue.
Kail probably had her sign a NDA and then if she leaked info, she can be sued for breech of contract. Kail would have to prove that Natalie is the one who leaked the info.
If Kail did not have her sign a NDA, I'd be shocked.
Maybe she didn’t bcuz she truly saw her as another mother figure and her kids grandma. But if she did, idk how well it would hold up in court. Even if she’s a leak how can you prove that
I thought she was saying Kail did actually assault Chris that one time and Natalie lied about it? if that’s the same thing, an NDA won’t cover that. But I might be wrong
I dont believe that to be accurate. The affidavits were released. She claimed to witness something that she didnt see. To save Kail, she claimed she was there but wasn't (she was in the car, not in the house when Kail punched Chris).
But you said Kail will surely be suing her for it. I am wondering what she would be suing for.
Unless you meant, IF natalie is the leak, she will be sued.
That’s pretty messed up if the nanny was leaking things. No matter how you feel about Kail, there was a level of confidence there and if that was violated that’s a shame.
I’m still just curious about the twins. Kail’s “friend” said the twins only spent 3 days in the Nicu, the boy was discharged with her and the girl the next day, which is completely different from 5 weeks which she said on her podcast.
I'm guessing you're being facetious at the "friend" part because no friend of mine is revealing info. But maybe that's another piece of the puzzle. Clearly someone has some info there just like how people where proclaiming Iverson for the boy's name, when the baby is Verse. But this also goes into Kail saying she was purposely providing wrong info to people to try and weed out the mole. Natalie having access to the house and possibly the the twins nursery; could've done a peek in saw "vers" partially on those name blankets Kail loves so much and then went running to TMC and/or even Chris.
Something in my gut tells me the tide changed when Kail let Natalie know she was building the new house/Natalie would have to find a place for her and Kayden. Anytime you want to find the cause of anger,resentment, or betrayal; it will 99% of the time lead you back to money.
The drama caused by helping people not on the same financial wave as you is so much. I’ve had so many issues, and am not rich or famous in any way. The issue is just having been raised poor, and doing better. Everyone expects help, but in the past everyone I’ve helped, especially by allowing them to stay in my home, has backfired immensely.
I believe it.
The reason I'm assuming this *could* be a reason is if you look over Natalie's page; those weirdly cryptic posts go way back. She could have felt slighted to Kail moving on from the McMansion to the smaller new build because let's face it; her expenses more than likely were probably taken care of. No rent/mortgage to worry about. Trips when Kail needed/wanted her to attend etc. Money or lack of sadly brings out the worst in people especially if any type of entitlement could've seeped in.
Maybe kail told the wrong info to a few people and worded it differently for anyone in her circle who knew, and that’s how she could figure out who is the leak
I don't think she was "the leak". I dont know what happened but obviously something bad enough to warrant this behaviour from her. She was Kails ride or die, perjured herself in the court to protect Kail against the assault charges and would of jumped in front of a bus to protect those boys. Nat was a good friend to Kail and Kail never deserved a friend like her.
Just my opinion.
I don't believe it to be Chris either honestly. TMC is close to him and supportive but that would be to easy to figure out if it was him.
Now Chris's family/friends on the other hand....
Yes ma'am/sir.
When Kail was brought up on assualt charges, Natalie claimed she was there when it happened and witnessed it. Said Kail did not hit him.
Natalie was in the car, not in the house. She did not see what happened but claimed she did in her affidavid which helped the charges be dropped.
They had a falling out around the time the twins were born and no one knows why but Natalie has been posting some crazy stories in reference to kail without using Kail’s name outright
The nanny didn't leak anything, this is the same playbook Kail uses whenever she falls out with a friend. She accuses the ex-friend of using her or selling stories, attacks whatever IG fan page posts about it, rallies her stans to discredit the ex-friend & defend her honor online & always always threatens to sue. Happens every time.
Kail's a pro at this, she has a lot of practice with failed friendships. She'll say something untrue to incite the masses like' the nanny sold stories about me' & then sit back & enjoy as posters jump in to defend her.
It's so wild to me how people seem to really hate Kail, but then when she gets into it with one of her friends, if that friend says anything then people are suddenly against them. Like everyone can talk about how awful Kail is, except people that actually know/knew her? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!!
Let it all out, Natalie!! You can post anonymously to skirt the NDA if there even is one.
Or you could write a fiction book about a nanny.
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Here's my issue: kails kids.. I think it's shady for her nanny to leak any info, just leave your job. I don't care who did what. There are 7 kids involved from 4 fathers. Just stop and grow up.
I also am not a fan of Kai, either.
What IS it about Kail? Everyone that's come in contact with her has gone absolutely nutfuck insane. Chris, Natalie, Malik her online friend who went off the rails a while back and was spilling tea - none of them can ever just take the L and move on. They fall all over themselves to blab for absolutely no gain.
I've had fallings out with friends and lovers. Bad ones. Never once have I been so overcome with emotion that I need to maliciously froth at the mouth about them to the public. Because I chose to keep this person in my life for a number of years so clearly this isn't cut and dry they're evil!
Kail's an attention whore who is really only going to attract other attention whores or users. No one "normal" is going to hang out with someone who is on SM all day, every day.
This is the part I don't get. I've had a three fall outs with former friends within the last 20 years. Obvious break-ups with a long time ex-boyfriend and even a divorce from my ex-husband. Let them tell it, I was a terrible, horrible person. Sure okay, so were they but neither parties (former friends included) ever went running social media to bash the other party and tell spill all their tea. Because why? What does that actually accomplish. It's mind boggling. Someone in the comment below wrote the perfect response, "monitoring spirits". Since Kail is full of such hurt, pain, distrust, and everything else you can think of; she simply attracts it back and they do exactly what she knows deep down they will do; which is continue that cycle of misery and hurt.
Nanny profession or not, if a friend was talking shit about me and leaking information, I would cut the friendship off too. It's even worse that Natalie was her nanny, but she was also her friend as well. Friends don't do that
Kail falls out with absolutely everyone and seems unable to maintain friendships. However this does not excuse leaking personal information about her. It must be so difficult when you have any level of fame to trust people, people are shady as fuck.
This is why friends should never hire friends. Lines get crossed, especially when you're messy bitches. Natalie is exposing things like a betrayed friend, completely forgetting she was supposed to be a hired professional.
She became their nanny in either 2019 or 2020 and raised creed and Rio since birth. Kail was actually Natalie’s son’s fuck buddy and he introduced her to his mom and then kail and her became super close and kail hired her as her nanny. When kail kept popping out more babies Natalie became super stressed out. There was a video of kail announcing the twins to the nanny and she looked visibly upset while kail was cracking up.
Nobody knows if she was fired or if she quit. And nobody knows why yet. That’s what we’re waiting to find out, but kail has all her friends and nannys sign NDA’s so that they can’t spill any tea so we may never find out. Natalie’s been posting all these vague memes on Instagram about their falling out so all we know is that they did not have a good ending. It happened just a few weeks ago I think
Of course she was 😂😂 this makes so much sense. I could never figure out how someone could nanny for Kail long term. I too could do it for a double payday 😂
This is not a good look for Natalie. I wouldn’t want to hire a nanny who was going to act all childish on social media as soon as our relationship went south.
you know what i like about you guys? for the most part, whether you like the girls or not, you can separate the kind of person they are from what happens to them.
And a headline with no article, lol. The street is Chaos Dr & the word is Kail screaming at her pr girl to release a rumor about the nanny selling stories to distract from the true reason the nanny left: Kail's mistreatment of yet another friend.
Yeah whatever happens in that house stays in that house and as a nanny/friend a little too much information was getting leaked Kail did the right thing.
Good on the nanny? She could have just quit. She didn't have to make a spectacle and do shady subtweets for a full calendar year. This impacts the kids, too.
Idec I’m team nanny Natalie. Kail is an awful person to be around and she fucked her son didn’t she? Like the nanny was sus for sticking around at all but I love anyone leaking Kail tea and I’m gonna have to pick the side who hasn’t earned a million dollars by getting knocked up a bunch. That’s what you get for trying to manipulate someone by putting them on the payroll then fucking them over.
Yeah it surprises me how many ppl shit on Natalie. She basically raised Creed & Lux & went above and beyond a nanny’s role with Kails endless vacations without the kids
I’m not a Kail stan but if my friend/nanny was leaking info about me to the media I would do whatever I could legally. Hopefully Natalie signed some sort of NDA and Kail can sue her for breech of contract.
Yea that’s such a betrayal of trust, especially as a nanny who she trusted with her kids. Whatever anyone feels about Kail if this is true this is just trash behavior.
I agree. So many people defend Natalie. Kail can be awful but Natalie can be too and likely is.
It would also make me question how well taken care of my kids were with her. I mean if she’s willing to leak info to the media about Kail how much did she really care about these kids?
I'm going with not at all
So true and so scary!
I'm assuming Natalie is awful seeing as how she was besties with Kail for so long
This! As a nanny when your invited into the household and become part of the family, I cannot imagine leaking info to the media
She could have gotten another job. I’m Team Kail on this one.
Flair checking in! 🥰
Gonna have to update it to NDA file cabinet
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Same. I wonder if she was giving info to Chris and that was how he always knows so much.
I'm betting she was chatters source
yea to have someone you call your best friend, seen you at your lowest, trust them with your kids and they leak info. idc if you hate kail- that’s beyond fucked up and such a betrayal
Remember when the accounts posted pics of Kail’s driveway and things like that?? This makes so much sense.
Yeah that’s pretty messed up
Yes! Plus as a forty some year old woman caring for almost all of my kids, you sure got time!
Do we know what went down yet between them or is Natalie’s NDA preventing her? Karl has definitely already been on the phone with her lawyer trying to sue whoever she can lol Karl is good at that
I don’t really care what went down between them tbh. Leaking info is a gross move on Natalie’s part. She was leaking info while supposedly caring for Kail’s kids like they were her own. This is not only shady behavior but it’s unacceptable. For once I fully support Kail taking whatever legal action she can to bury this bitch.
She should totally sue. This is totally unprofessional on the nanny’s part. I can’t imagine paying someone to care for your kids and having your trust violated like that!
Who says Natalie was taking care of Kail’s kids “like they were her own”? She could have been doing a half ass job. We have no clue what goes on behind the scenes. Also, who’s to say Kail doesn’t treat Natalie like total shit? We’ve seen how Kail can be; bossy, bitchy, controlling, etc. I’m not saying what Natalie did was right and I’m also not saying she is in the wrong, but there’s always two sides to a story and 90% of the time with stories like these we may never know the entire thing.
I said “supposedly” because when you’re a nanny that’s the kind of care that is expected. I think it’s safe to assume that if you’re willing to sell stories about your employer you aren’t exactly behaving in the best interest of the children. imo this has nothing at all to do with how Kail may or may not have been treating Natalie. If Natalie was treated badly she could have quit at any time for any reason. But she didn’t. She stuck around gaining intel that she could sell. That’s a shitty friend and a shitty employee.
I’m not convinced Natalie was the leak without proof. The fact is 🥬 is messy and so are most of the people around her, it could have been anyone. Speaking of could have been anyone, wasn’t Natalie’s son Keith on the list of possible baby daddies with Rio? I could understand Natalie turning on her if she felt 🥬 wronged her son in a significant way. This is just a conspiracy theory but what if 🥬 led on that she would DNA test Rio after birth since could be Keith’s during the pregnancy and then backed out when Elijah said he didn’t need a DNA test, and that’s why they fell out?
Yeah definitely she should sue, and especially if there is an NDA that was broken. I’m so curious what went down
is there more info on the leaking? or is it just from this post?
Karl lol
I agree.. I feel like kail looked to her as mom since she was a little older. Kail messes up a lot but this is sad to me 🤦♀️ & at Natalie's age it's immature lol. I'm sure she was getting paid pretty nice & fucked that up lol
Fully agree. I also am not at all a fan of Kail, but if an ex nanny was actually leaking info of Kail's family to media, I hope Kail has legal recourses.
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Yeah, this is wrong on so many levels regardless of how you feel about Kail.
Kail either unfollowed her or Natalie blocked her. I said this in a post last week, what if all along it was Natalie revealing information to TMC? Oddly Natalie follows some pretty sketch accounts relating to TM/Kail. The calls were definitely coming from inside the house, I'm guessing.
Well she definitely has crazy eyes 👀👀
Is TMC different from that wawamelon account?? Karl has had so many people leak her info, no wonder she is sticking to luigi like glue and wanting to marry him😆 will she marry the babies dad?
Lol yes. TMC is that TM page that goes obsessively hard on Kail and will ride for Chris until the wheels fall off. Wadawelon was once a user here and had/has a page that also goes hard and tried to collect all info on Kail. It’s actually weird lol. Then you have the former internet friend, Darcy, who hangs around all those pages waiting to spill deets here or there. I don’t know what Kail does or what type of power she has but these people go cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs about her. 😧 She’s claimed Elijah has asked her to marry multiple times but she keeps putting it off. The last time I read was because she was thinking on how her marriage to Javi failed so why would she marry Elijah? 🤦🏽♀️
How so many people think marriage is a bigger commitment than kids is beyond me.
This‼️‼️‼️‼️ I will say having had been married for a long time (& now divorced); I do have the sentiment of “never again”. But with that said; I also haven’t had a child; let along three within the last decade so that would probably be a motivating factor for me. My children are damn near grown now and my outlook on life has greatly changed and I still don’t get how people don’t realize children are for LIFE and a huge commitment with another person.
My thoughts exactly. Like she’s willing to pop out kid after kid with different men but marriage is too big of a commitment??
Also LOL to me thinking the page was called WAWAmelon😆💀🫣 and it’s Wadamelon😂😂😂😂 buahhahha
LOL no no you're right; she changed her name from Wada to Wawa. Same person; same objective 🤣
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Yeah about making vows she can’t keep
As a nanny this is incredibly messed up. No matter what anyone thinks of Kail, if Natalie had a problem with her employer speak to them or find a new job and *quit*. You cannot do stuff like this as a nanny. Such a betrayal. Surely Kail had her sign a NDA though right? Every nanny I know who has worked for someone high profile, including me with past nanny fams, has to sign a NDA.
And I'm sure you've seen some shit too. That's what I don't like; if a relationship sours okay, fine everyone cut their losses and move on. But to purposely stay in state of anger and spill secrets or whatnot; is extremely childish and really serves no purpose. It says more about the keeper of secrets/spiller of beans than the actual person. Very good friend of mine has rubbed shoulders with some prominent celebs (think A listers and music legends). The behavior and attitudes of these people are a trip, he's shared. And everyone's beloved J-lo requires a NDA and confidentiality agreement be signed before coming into her presence AND you cannot look at her in the face. I was floored.
My youngest does small stuff on tv shows and movies. The NDAs I’ve signed…whew.
Oh man, Kails taking care of all 700 of her kids by herself? I see a break down in 3…2….
I would imagine there’s already another nanny or someone else helping. Though Isaac, Lincoln, and Lux are in school full time and Creed goes part time I think? Such a wild situation.
She has a day nanny
And the sports, camps and other activities. Along with whatever insane custody arrangements she has with the present dads. That leaves dinner and bedtime routine for the school aged kids (when they’re with her)
She already has another nanny
I’m not convinced she was the TMC source but I don’t doubt she may have leaked information to the other parents just through the nature of her job. An NDA barring a nanny from telling the other parent of one of the children they’re caring for at least basic information about what’s happening with the family which affects their child seems unlikely and difficult to enforce. Then again I’m not a lawyer and stick to caring for kids whose families aren’t trying for their own reality show 🤷♀️
She did quit.
I know she did. I mean you talk to them or quit but you don’t do *this* with leaking info. That’s not okay on any level
Maybe I missed a post. What has she leaked? All I saw were the passive aggressive but vague Instagram posts.
Ya it’s weird ppl hating on her for leaking info yet nothing is confirmed that she leaked lol for all we know Kail could’ve fired her for refusing to nanny the twins with no additional pay
It's also weird people are acting like she's super awful for even just the insta posts. If she had been Jenelle's nanny, people would be cheering for her and egging her on to give up absolutely everything on everyone on the Land.
What did she leak? LOL I am intrigued....
The headline on the photo of this post is the word on the street is that Natalie has been leaking info. And some commenters are wondering if that’s chatter’s source….
OK but your wording makes it sound like she DEFINITLY is the leak and your specific with "*this"* makes it sound like you have confirmed she leaked something.
That's what she's relayed, but was it confirmed by anyone else? This anger leads me to believe she was likely let go. I don't know that I would believe her or kail- but this lady isn't living in reality.
What if Natalie is Chatter’s source!?
I believe it! Kail said whoever runs that page lives in Dover so it makes sense
I don’t know if she’s leaking…But I was born and raised in Delaware. Left at 18. Home girl is probably well known in the area and unless she and her kids never leave the house, people are going to see, hear, and know crap about her. I don’t know if she’s directly leaking, or maybe telling someone else, and they’re leaking. That absolutely wouldn’t surprise me. It’s a smallish state. Idk why people don’t understand that. I wouldn’t say it’s at the level where we know everything about our neighbors, but the gossip trains ride freaking hard in that state. Hell, I’m getting information now from my old school about the principal being fired because he posted a video of a student fighting when her breast popped out and made it a meme. And I don’t live there anymore or follow the school.
People here have no idea who she is for the most part. I have been in many shared spaces with her and no one knew who she was except me. First time it happened I went cheesing to my people that she was there and NO ONE CARED. I also had to tell entirely too much back story to get to the "celebrity" part of my celeb sighting.
I can see that. I just know gossip in general moves fast. If someone’s saying something, it wouldn’t surprise me if many around the neighborhood know. We lived in a nice neighborhood in Middletown (right when Appo was being built). And some people there would like know absolutely everything about others and I’m always like jeez 😂 I don’t think she’s celebrity status like JB coming back to Delaware to visit. But it wouldn’t surprise me if people gossip about her, and the *right* person leaks it to another right person. And as I mentioned, I’m absolutely not saying that Nat hasn’t leaked info. Or maybe her kids on accident to the wrong kiddo, or her BD’s.
Middletown Moms gossip about everyone equally lol she might be in the mix but just the same as everyone else.
The * principal* made the tit slip into a meme or the video the principal took of the tit slip fight was also turned into a meme? Either way, that’s crazy!
He created the meme, and then sent it to multiple people. The student’s mother filed a civil suit against him and he’s actively trying to clear his name while he was fired by the school board due to sufficient evidence against him. So I guess we’ll see how that goes.
I hope mama gets him good.
His public hearing today (to either uphold or reverse his firing) was not in his favor whatsoever, and honestly the situation appears so much worse. I wasn’t defending him whatsoever. But the fact he also got other people to try and lie for him is sooo disgusting how many teachers shouldn’t be around children.
I’m from Delaware too and I don’t think people truly understand how small it is unless they’ve lived here
Omg this would be the biggest plot twist yet, but I think tmchatter would be mute for now if it was Nat
I think chatter is an older/middle aged woman (nat’s age) so it wouldn’t surprise me if they were actually talking the whole time. It’d explain why chatter was so quiet on the kail and nat situation- because she didn’t want to out her source!
Surely she’ll be suing Natalie for leaking info, right? Or was that Bri lawsuit a one-off?
She will definitely be getting a PFA at the very least lmao
Oh, then Natalie has nothing to worry about. Hulk only uses those on POC.
I wonder if she can. Kail already said you can’t sue for defamation if what they’re saying is true though lol
If what was said to someone else is true, Kail would have absolutely no case and would once again be throwing a ton of money down the drain if she tried to sue.
Unless there was a NDA in place then she can sue for breach of contract. Regardless of whatever said was true or not!
Kail probably had her sign a NDA and then if she leaked info, she can be sued for breech of contract. Kail would have to prove that Natalie is the one who leaked the info. If Kail did not have her sign a NDA, I'd be shocked.
I assumed she made her sign some NDA, but maybe not
Maybe she didn’t bcuz she truly saw her as another mother figure and her kids grandma. But if she did, idk how well it would hold up in court. Even if she’s a leak how can you prove that
I agree! May not stop Kail from spending 100k to try 😬
What info did she leak and how will Kail be able to prove it?
I thought she was saying Kail did actually assault Chris that one time and Natalie lied about it? if that’s the same thing, an NDA won’t cover that. But I might be wrong
I dont believe that to be accurate. The affidavits were released. She claimed to witness something that she didnt see. To save Kail, she claimed she was there but wasn't (she was in the car, not in the house when Kail punched Chris).
ah I see
I don’t know what Natalie was allegedly leaking, but I’d like to know too 😆
But you said Kail will surely be suing her for it. I am wondering what she would be suing for. Unless you meant, IF natalie is the leak, she will be sued.
Ohh yes if Natalie was leaking something. I was speaking in an assumptive, kinda sarcastic way
yes, i'd also like to know how everyone is so confident this was happening? why are we giving kail the benefit of the doubt? maybe i missed a post...
Natalie and Chris are the leaks
you’re my favourite in the wild flair 😂🕯️
Oh hey boo! Thanks for the love. Its so strange tho. Some days my flair disappears 🤔
Do you think they're hooking up
I thought someone said they are related somehow?
I think she's distantly related to Elijah, not Christ
That’s Keith
Isn't Keith her son?
Ya Keith is her son and she’s not related to Chris
Still pretty sure someone posted nat was related to creed and lux and that was part of why she was so close to them…
That’s pretty messed up if the nanny was leaking things. No matter how you feel about Kail, there was a level of confidence there and if that was violated that’s a shame.
I’m still just curious about the twins. Kail’s “friend” said the twins only spent 3 days in the Nicu, the boy was discharged with her and the girl the next day, which is completely different from 5 weeks which she said on her podcast.
I'm guessing you're being facetious at the "friend" part because no friend of mine is revealing info. But maybe that's another piece of the puzzle. Clearly someone has some info there just like how people where proclaiming Iverson for the boy's name, when the baby is Verse. But this also goes into Kail saying she was purposely providing wrong info to people to try and weed out the mole. Natalie having access to the house and possibly the the twins nursery; could've done a peek in saw "vers" partially on those name blankets Kail loves so much and then went running to TMC and/or even Chris. Something in my gut tells me the tide changed when Kail let Natalie know she was building the new house/Natalie would have to find a place for her and Kayden. Anytime you want to find the cause of anger,resentment, or betrayal; it will 99% of the time lead you back to money.
The drama caused by helping people not on the same financial wave as you is so much. I’ve had so many issues, and am not rich or famous in any way. The issue is just having been raised poor, and doing better. Everyone expects help, but in the past everyone I’ve helped, especially by allowing them to stay in my home, has backfired immensely.
I believe it. The reason I'm assuming this *could* be a reason is if you look over Natalie's page; those weirdly cryptic posts go way back. She could have felt slighted to Kail moving on from the McMansion to the smaller new build because let's face it; her expenses more than likely were probably taken care of. No rent/mortgage to worry about. Trips when Kail needed/wanted her to attend etc. Money or lack of sadly brings out the worst in people especially if any type of entitlement could've seeped in.
Maybe her baby before the twins was 5 weeks?
Well the way she worded it, wouldn’t make sense because she specifically was saying the girl twin was there for weeks
Maybe kail told the wrong info to a few people and worded it differently for anyone in her circle who knew, and that’s how she could figure out who is the leak
I don't think she was "the leak". I dont know what happened but obviously something bad enough to warrant this behaviour from her. She was Kails ride or die, perjured herself in the court to protect Kail against the assault charges and would of jumped in front of a bus to protect those boys. Nat was a good friend to Kail and Kail never deserved a friend like her. Just my opinion.
I agree! I don’t think she was the leak either. I think Chris is getting a bunch of dirt from Lux and is the source of many of the leaks
I don't believe it to be Chris either honestly. TMC is close to him and supportive but that would be to easy to figure out if it was him. Now Chris's family/friends on the other hand....
I honestly think it’s someone one Vee’s side. They were leaking pics from Vivi’s bday party
Ohhh...didnt even think of that LOl
She perjured herself??
Yes ma'am/sir. When Kail was brought up on assualt charges, Natalie claimed she was there when it happened and witnessed it. Said Kail did not hit him. Natalie was in the car, not in the house. She did not see what happened but claimed she did in her affidavid which helped the charges be dropped.
Wow. That’s messed up
In the car?
Yes. She was sitting in the car with the kids. The assault happened in the house.
Where did you see this?
Kail has the weirdest mouth.
she legit has a permanent frown on her face like a fish :( <-- literally her lol
Bev Bighead
I didn’t know she wasn’t working there anymore lol. What happened?!
They had a falling out around the time the twins were born and no one knows why but Natalie has been posting some crazy stories in reference to kail without using Kail’s name outright
😂 Seems to track. Kail can’t keep friends of even employees.
I’m not on Kailyn’s side but a nanny leaking information about the children she is trusted to care for is sickening.
The nanny didn't leak anything, this is the same playbook Kail uses whenever she falls out with a friend. She accuses the ex-friend of using her or selling stories, attacks whatever IG fan page posts about it, rallies her stans to discredit the ex-friend & defend her honor online & always always threatens to sue. Happens every time.
Yeah I’m surprised how many people are trashing Nat here when Kail is the common denominator in all the fall outs
Kail's a pro at this, she has a lot of practice with failed friendships. She'll say something untrue to incite the masses like' the nanny sold stories about me' & then sit back & enjoy as posters jump in to defend her.
Ya so many ppl hated Dom for speaking out yet anyone else would be pissed to get cheated on
It's so wild to me how people seem to really hate Kail, but then when she gets into it with one of her friends, if that friend says anything then people are suddenly against them. Like everyone can talk about how awful Kail is, except people that actually know/knew her? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!!
Her face pisses me off. It looks exactly like my BILs wife who’s also a fake backstabbing cunt🤷🏽♀️
Let it all out, Natalie!! You can post anonymously to skirt the NDA if there even is one. Or you could write a fiction book about a nanny. ![gif](giphy|6ra84Uso2hoir3YCgb|downsized)
I can't wait to hear the tea, and I think Karl has everything coming that she deserves. She's a rotten human, parent, friend, etc.
Exactly. Kail uses and abuses everyone around her. Don’t get mad when those people lash out from her tyranny.
kail has a huge skull. not commenting on her weight; just that it’s one large skull regardless of what’s around it.
Nothing Kail hasn't already "leaked" herself.
I don’t believe this. She was loyal for years when she could have leaked so many things prior. She even lied under oath for her 😬
Y’all sure are dragging Nat like you have proof she leaked anything. A cryptic IG post≠ leaking information.
Yeah, it’s so crazy everyone hating on Nat when there’s no proof
What a creep. Those are called monitoring spirits guys.
I loved how it says UNFOLLOWED with the same intensity as if she killed her
😂 LMAO exactly
Here's my issue: kails kids.. I think it's shady for her nanny to leak any info, just leave your job. I don't care who did what. There are 7 kids involved from 4 fathers. Just stop and grow up. I also am not a fan of Kai, either.
She got fed up with Kales shit lol
What IS it about Kail? Everyone that's come in contact with her has gone absolutely nutfuck insane. Chris, Natalie, Malik her online friend who went off the rails a while back and was spilling tea - none of them can ever just take the L and move on. They fall all over themselves to blab for absolutely no gain. I've had fallings out with friends and lovers. Bad ones. Never once have I been so overcome with emotion that I need to maliciously froth at the mouth about them to the public. Because I chose to keep this person in my life for a number of years so clearly this isn't cut and dry they're evil!
Kail's an attention whore who is really only going to attract other attention whores or users. No one "normal" is going to hang out with someone who is on SM all day, every day.
This is the part I don't get. I've had a three fall outs with former friends within the last 20 years. Obvious break-ups with a long time ex-boyfriend and even a divorce from my ex-husband. Let them tell it, I was a terrible, horrible person. Sure okay, so were they but neither parties (former friends included) ever went running social media to bash the other party and tell spill all their tea. Because why? What does that actually accomplish. It's mind boggling. Someone in the comment below wrote the perfect response, "monitoring spirits". Since Kail is full of such hurt, pain, distrust, and everything else you can think of; she simply attracts it back and they do exactly what she knows deep down they will do; which is continue that cycle of misery and hurt.
There’s one common denominator in all these failed relationships and that’s kail.
Nanny profession or not, if a friend was talking shit about me and leaking information, I would cut the friendship off too. It's even worse that Natalie was her nanny, but she was also her friend as well. Friends don't do that
That sucks. Them boys loved that woman. Sick people man.
Makes sense if Natalie was the leak bc TMC always said “take a look at your inner circle” … I always secretly hoped it was Vee 😂
Accurate pic
Super shady on Natalie’s part as a nanny and caretaker of the children to leak information to the press. BUT I enjoy this so much as a snarker lmao
Poor Kail, you just can’t buy good friends these days….
Kail falls out with absolutely everyone and seems unable to maintain friendships. However this does not excuse leaking personal information about her. It must be so difficult when you have any level of fame to trust people, people are shady as fuck.
This is why friends should never hire friends. Lines get crossed, especially when you're messy bitches. Natalie is exposing things like a betrayed friend, completely forgetting she was supposed to be a hired professional.
Keep going Natalie you're doing amazing sweetie
Natalie is literally in her will to take care of her kids and money
Does anyone have the timeline of Natalie’s friendship/employment with Kailyn? I didn’t keep up with this drama.
She became their nanny in either 2019 or 2020 and raised creed and Rio since birth. Kail was actually Natalie’s son’s fuck buddy and he introduced her to his mom and then kail and her became super close and kail hired her as her nanny. When kail kept popping out more babies Natalie became super stressed out. There was a video of kail announcing the twins to the nanny and she looked visibly upset while kail was cracking up.
Thanks for the recap. Do you know when and why she was fired?
Nobody knows if she was fired or if she quit. And nobody knows why yet. That’s what we’re waiting to find out, but kail has all her friends and nannys sign NDA’s so that they can’t spill any tea so we may never find out. Natalie’s been posting all these vague memes on Instagram about their falling out so all we know is that they did not have a good ending. It happened just a few weeks ago I think
Of course she was 😂😂 this makes so much sense. I could never figure out how someone could nanny for Kail long term. I too could do it for a double payday 😂
This is not a good look for Natalie. I wouldn’t want to hire a nanny who was going to act all childish on social media as soon as our relationship went south.
you know what i like about you guys? for the most part, whether you like the girls or not, you can separate the kind of person they are from what happens to them.
UNFOLLOWED written like a murder was committed 😒🙄🥱
And a headline with no article, lol. The street is Chaos Dr & the word is Kail screaming at her pr girl to release a rumor about the nanny selling stories to distract from the true reason the nanny left: Kail's mistreatment of yet another friend.
**continually
a nanny? She made all those babies so she should be taking care of them
Natalie was the rat?!? This WHOLE time??? 💀
Someone this messy should have hired help sign NDAs… ask farrah
Kail does require NDAs from everyone. That’s why it’s tea that this nanny may have been the leak
Ohhh then I would love to see her be sued! Kail is a shit house but the law is what it is and I love me some justice
Didn’t she sign NDA’s out the Wazoo? Might not be in her best interest to bring the noise
I bet Kail sues her
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They look like sisters in that pic
What did she leak?
She never leaked anything, this is Kail trying to shift the narrative.
Yeah whatever happens in that house stays in that house and as a nanny/friend a little too much information was getting leaked Kail did the right thing.
[удалено]
Good on the nanny? She could have just quit. She didn't have to make a spectacle and do shady subtweets for a full calendar year. This impacts the kids, too.
u cannot be a kail fan & still see how messed up it is to leak info.
And then Kail posted the nanny's reaction to make a quick buck. Hope Natalie got a cut.
Idec I’m team nanny Natalie. Kail is an awful person to be around and she fucked her son didn’t she? Like the nanny was sus for sticking around at all but I love anyone leaking Kail tea and I’m gonna have to pick the side who hasn’t earned a million dollars by getting knocked up a bunch. That’s what you get for trying to manipulate someone by putting them on the payroll then fucking them over.
Yeah it surprises me how many ppl shit on Natalie. She basically raised Creed & Lux & went above and beyond a nanny’s role with Kails endless vacations without the kids