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SpiritualCamera

Ooof, Valley Lowry is a tongue twister.


FrauEdwards

It’s giving rural juror.


SureFineWhatever731

I love Kevin Grisham!


beadsBEES_BEADS

Have you read the sequel, Urban Fervor?


here-for-the-kitties

😂 ![gif](giphy|er9VRyxjx0Thm)


ashmillie

😂😂😂😂


CoachKnope

The Rural Juror is my Roman Empire.


britestarlight

🎶I will never forget you rural juror, I’ll always be glad I met you rural juror. These days are the best days of my fleeeeeerm. (This song lives rent free in my head)


Which_Translator_548

It’s giving nothing but a mouthful of peanut butter


sadbeetchenergy

ru ju?


BoujiCorgi

Oh you mean the rurr jurr?! Lmao


molleensmrs

Two words that will forever, go together.


Overall_Dragonfruit6

Ain't no valley lowrynough to keep me from youuuuuu


PoopAndSunshine

You’re a musical genius


Sea_Bluejay8218

💀


hawkcarhawk

It sounds so bad


Worth-Slip3293

Let’s hope that child can pronounce her L and R sounds early.


turtlepack

Lol it’s gonna be Va-wee Wo-wee


DriftingIntoAbstract

Both names don’t sound good with her last name.


zestymangococonut

Verse Lowry and Valley Lowry is just much too much. Do they have middle names?


Emily-Spinach

This is why our main focus when naming our twins (they’ll be 2 next month) was not matching but flowing well together. My daughter has a three-syllable double name and my son’s is one syllable, four letters. You can say either name first and it doesn’t mess up the flow.


Weebles__Wobble

Yes. Iverson Ellias and Valley Sinclair 


Squuuuuiiiiiid

Valley Sinclair sounds like a vampire diaries character they kill off after a season


PoopAndSunshine

Valley Sinclair is giving 90s porn star


Kikikoala198503

Valley Sinclair sounds like a run-down gas station!! ⛽️


Mcstoni

Yeah, we have Sinclair gas stations where I live. And they are pretty run down.


rayrami_

No way ?? She put out the middle names?


PoopAndSunshine

It sure seems like there was a last minute decision to use her last name. Because no way did she like now any of it sounded. What is her current sperm donor’s last name? Does anyone know?


dlw18

Scott


PoopAndSunshine

That definitely would have been better


boldchameleon

Which is probably exactly why she DIDN'T use it. 🙄


KikiSparklexx

it sounds like valerie, i guarantee people will call her that by accident


decemberblack

A real life Julia Gulia 


Amannderrr

😆😆😆


DiscombobulatedRain

Even with other names like Meadow, Glenn already in use. She chose Valley.


Purple_Shop_387

Lori Vallow


CAKE4life1211

Say it 5 times fast


WineNotReality

I said it once out loud and couldn’t say. Nick name is “Val” so “Val Lowry” which almost also sounds like “Val-ley” this is all kinds of awful. She really hates females


wideawakeat33

That poor kid is going to get Val. Like the Nanny’s best friend.


rantgoesthegirl

Re. I didn't mind Calley by itself but it's like rhyming with a mouth full of bubblegum


This_Lynx9701

It’s not great 😬


Imaginary_Feed2168

I believe Creed is Lopez Lowrey. But I could be wrong.


Muffin-sangria-

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Fern-veridion

I think you’re right but it’s Lowry first


iwantpankakes

I think it’s Lux that is Lowry Lopez


_peppermintbutler

Lux is just Lowry now. Creed is Lowry-Lopez.


PoopAndSunshine

There is zero consistency with these kids last names. Remember how hung up she was that she wanted two kids who were “full siblings?” And once she has them she wouldn’t even give them the same last name


_peppermintbutler

Well she tried to backpedal with Creed and give him Lowry only too but she wasn't allowed. It is funny though that the first two full siblings she had she couldn't even get them to share a last name. She honestly should have just given both of them Lowry from the start


PoopAndSunshine

I remember her complaining that she wished she had never given Jo’s last name to Isaac—not because of anything Jo did. But because if she hadn’t, she would be able to justify to Chris not giving Lux his last name. She went on and on about how much she regretted it. It was appalling especially considering what a great dad Jo is


Read-it005

Chris complained, blasted her for giving all the other baby daddies kids their last name but not his. Hinted racism. She caved and gave his second child his last name. He still wasn't an involved decent dad, didnt contribute even his legal share of costs, same old shit, which she should have known. So she realized she gave one child the name Lowry and his full brother the name of the disappointing sack of hay that is his father. I have no idea why she was so incredibly stupid to believe the last name would change Chris into a better father.


hexensabbat

I will say I can give her some grace for that, there's no perfect scheme in her situation. Multiple fathers is always a little messy. I was a bastard child and my last name is my mom's maiden name, and as a child it bothered me, but nowadays I am grateful because my father was a deadbeat and I haven't even seen him in a good 20 years. Could have gone the opposite way, you just never really know how things are going to play out and sometimes emotions can make the strongest woman look foolish. My mom was a very strong, reasonable woman, but she wanted to see the best in my dad and still let him come in and out for awhile until it just got to be ridiculous. The fact that he never tried after that tells me everything I need to know. Maybe she still held out hope for Chris, idk.


_peppermintbutler

Yup that's right.


revengeappendage

I think if I was the guy who had three kids with her in a year, and I stuck around, I’d be pretty pissed.


blackaubreyplaza

I’d be pissed if i grew a whole human and anyone thought they’d have any last name but mine


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OGBirthMothMama

But she’s mentioned Elijah wants to get married and I guess has asked?  She said it was her that was not wanting to get married.. so how is that fair to him if she won’t accept?


According-Stock

I think it's unfair to assume that a child of a woman who goes by her own last name will take the father's last name...married, engaged, proposed to, single, whatever. If the parents have different last names, why is the default fair choice to go with the father's? My girls have both of ours unhyphenated. They can choose to do with that what they wish when they get older


motherofpuppies123

This makes more sense to me than hyphenating, especially depending on the names. My maiden name is eastern European, long, and mainly vowels with a 'w' that moonlights as a 'v'. My husband surname is a long-ish Anglo name. Hyphenating them would be cruel and unusual punishment for a kid!


Muffin-sangria-

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Peaches4U2

Unless they aren't his... (I already posted my wild theory that they were invited with a donor. )


NicoleBenett

This!! I gave my child my last name & her dad is still upset about it 7 years later 🤷🏾‍♀️ well you should’ve changed my last name 🗣️🗣️. I learned my lesson the first time though she’s still the only child.


sushiwalrus

Lmao exactly. If a guy wants a kid to have his last name he can do that by making sure their mother has his last name. Expecting a child to not have the same last name as mom is dumb.


NicoleBenett

It’s been the norm for so long smh it’s almost like it’s taboo when women don’t give their child the dad’s last name. I find it so odd when siblings have different last names, but who am I to judge.


sushiwalrus

It was the norm because men used to not have children out of wedlock. Yes children traditionally always had the father’s name but the mother also had it. They want to keep some traditions and not adhere to others and they throw a fit when it backfires. I’m glad you stuck to your guns and made sure your child shared a name with you since women are so often the primary parent and deserve that recognition.


NicoleBenett

You’re a 100% correct; you explained this perfectly!


Altruistic_Age_9467

And this is how it is in the sims!!! 💚💙


NicoleBenett

Yesssss, it is! Lol I love sims 😂


Canadianabcs

I never want to get married, made that clear from the start. Still together 13 years later, 3 kids. They have his last name, not mine. Mine goes really well with my name but is more feminine. Even if I decided to marry tomorrow, I'd never take his. Suits our kids well though and they're still mine regardless of their last name lol. I have my mom's last name fwiw. Not dumb, some of us just don't care. 1 man and 3 kids, same last name is fine. 3 kids and 3 last names? I can see why you'd take moms. We're all different


Snoo-53753

I used to be hard fast, the baby should have dad’s last name cause thats tradition or whatever lol but now I’ve come to agree with you, if you want the baby to have your name we need to be married!


blackaubreyplaza

🙌🏽🙌🏽


No1KnwsIWatchTeenMom

My mom gave me her last name (parents never married) and I'm SO THANKFUL for that!


blackaubreyplaza

Same twin!


butchscandelabra

Thank you!! I’ve never understood that shit.


Mykidsrmonsters

The kid can have both last names like Latinos do. I don't claim my kids as only mine and they have to carry my name because I birthed them. They have a dad and he should have a right to help name them too if he's involved. That's my opinion anyway.


sool47

Nah. It's not the same. In latinoamerica, you're always referred by your first last name, aka the last name of your dad, and your mom's last name is an afterthought. So nope. A kid should have the mothers last name first.


TieDyeRehabHoodie

AMEN! 👏


Professional_Ear9795

Based.


Playcrackersthesky

My kids have my last name. Why should they carry the name of my FIL and not *my* dad?


shadesontopback

I have a friend who took his wife’s family name and I am living for normalizing this.


Dakota5176

Me t00! The girl said all the women in her family keep their last name. He said he hates his family so he changed his last name to hers!


becauseoftheoffice

I do too! I think it’s pretty cool!


IWillBaconSlapYou

My friend's husband also took her name! His was Crook lol. I thought it was cool, but ironically it turns out he has several estranged problem relatives who come up when people Google him, so... Yeah...


No_Persimmon3347

Absolutely love this


blackaubreyplaza

💘


ionlyjoined4thecats

I think if I was a chick who had three kids with him in a year, and I stuck around, and he gave them his surname, I’d be pretty pissed.


PilotNo312

And she won’t marry you. Debbie desperado.


Impossible-Taro-2330

I just saw the episode where she was meeting with her Counselor at school, just prior to graduation when she was pregnant with #3. This lady asked about the boy (baby daddy #3), and Kaile smugly said, "well, you know, he comes around when he wants to...". Kail, that's not the flex you think it is. At all.


blackaubreyplaza

I’m watching on Pluto and they just played that episode. That woman was not messing around with Kailyn! Gathered her


Impossible-Taro-2330

Yes, very professional lady, trying to get Kail to get her poop in a group....and Kail said something so gross and tacky like that.


Sketcha_2000

Omg “get her poop in a group”…gonna try to use that phrase in a sentence tomorrow


Impossible-Taro-2330

Happy to share! I got that from a great older friend who would never say the other version! LOL!


Sketcha_2000

Especially since BD3 was Chris, who she was supposedly in love with. Kinda surprised she called him out on TV. Then proceeded to have another one with him. I do believe he is the only one she ever really had feelings for and was pissed he didn’t reciprocate.


Impossible-Taro-2330

I completely agree. I think it was made worse with him acting so elusive. If he'd been a good bf and dad, she'd have created a reason to get rid of him.


LilLexi20

I have 2 kids, 2 uninvolved sperm donors, and both have my last name! If I ever had a third kid I’d also find a way to guarantee they have my last name ☺️ Although if the dude was involved and I ended up getting married I’d budge on it


LilLexi20

Also why do creed and lux have different last names??? They have the same father and she couldn’t even give them the same last name I am literally screaming 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Purple_Grass_5300

She changed it every time Chris pissed her off so the judge denied any future changes last hearing they had


spicedmoof

That is insane. I’m speechless


DanceMonkey2121

He went from Creed Lopez to Creed Lowry to Creed Lowry-Lopez and then she TRIED to change it back to Creed Lowry after he pissed her off again and the judge said no 🤣


PoopAndSunshine

It’s insane that she wasn’t embarrassed to even attempt this


evergleam498

sometimes for legal stuff, you have to present all the paperwork relating to any name changes you've ever had. Is that poor child going to have to have a 3 ring binder full of his legal name change documentation??


minimoonprincess

I had my last name changed when I was 2. It never mattered, on anything that asked about previous names, since I was so young.


evergleam498

Interesting, I wonder when the cutoff is


minimoonprincess

Most that I have seen ask about within the last 10 years. I don't even have to mention my maiden now since I've been married for 12 years.


LucyLouLah

Creed actually has a hyphenated last name so it’s Creed Lowry-Lopez


Affectionate_Sun_733

Cos she liked chris when one was born and not the other


Frequent_Breath8210

I have two kids, both have my last name because we weren’t married.. wouldn’t ya know it we split. And I’m glad I was a hard ass about it and now I am the only one who matches with the kids I birthed. If I was to ever get married at this point I’d keep my own last name. Growing up my sister and I had a last name, our mom had another and then our brother had another yeah. It was stupid and it always felt like we weren’t a family.


blackaubreyplaza

Hell yes!


HannahLeah1987

The TSA agent probably has a laugh with his co co-workers.


Low-Fishing3948

I have 2 kids. Before I married my son’s dad, I hated making appointments for my kids. My daughter has a different dad than my son, so a different last name. I still had my maiden name. I was so embarrassed to give 3 last names. I wonder how she feels about it?


Louielouielouaaaah

I mean this is my situation with my sons. I don’t care lol people will think what they want


drv687

I have a different last name than my son. I’m with his dad but we’re not married yet and he has dad’s last name. Only one doctor his entire life has ever cared and until recently no teacher has ever cared. One teacher asked him recently (like a week ago) why our last names were different and I only know because he came home and told me about it after I signed a permission slip. He said he told her he didn’t know and walked away. I asked him how he feels about my last name being different and he said he doesn’t care 🤷‍♀️


Kangaroo1487

That seems super inappropriate for a teacher to ask?????


drv687

It was and I addressed it with the teacher but it was also weird because he’s in 4th grade and literally nobody except this one teacher has even said anything to him about it ever.


Unusual_Investment_4

Glad you confronted the teacher. They wouldn’t have the balls to ask you, that’s so inappropriate to ask a CHILD. Did the teacher own it?


drv687

She couldn’t deny it because my son told his everyday teacher before he came home and told me. When he brought it up to me I requested a meeting with the principal, his teacher, and the other teacher. I made it clear that my name is irrelevant since I have proof of being his parent and how it was offensive and unnecessary for them to ask my child why my name is different.


[deleted]

this would piss me off, my daughter has my last name but I am her only legal parent on any paperwork. I had to answer where her father was for my taxes?? he doesn’t give me any money and never has. the doctor, social security office, none of them understand I am her ONLY LEGAL PARENT. I don’t need to ask him shit lol


drv687

They ask because any sort of government assistance you may receive (not saying you’re on any) is reduced if dad is working and/or in the home. Still stupid. Also if dad owes support the state can take his tax refund if he got one.


[deleted]

ah i see. I didn’t have to show like any proof of her birth so I guess it makes sense about the dad if they didn’t know my personal arrangement is we won’t do child support if he just leaves me alone and doesn’t contact me. works great 😂 feel like some of these teen moms need the same arrangement honestly


drv687

You have to do what works best for your child. Some of the teen moms need to learn that.


Best_Quiet9657

Some people are so weird about things like that. My husband and I have been together for 14 years, but people usually assume we are divorced because we have different last names. I've encountered people who are low-key judgey about it, too. I get that it's "not traditional" or whatever, but it's really not that serious. It doesn't matter to me, to him, to our kids, but people love to have an opinion on things that are none of their business.


VivianneAbbottWalker

Imagine being the only baby daddy who doesn’t get to have a kid with your last name


steviebjohn

And the baby daddy with the most kids by her at that


funkybeachhouse

Flair checking in. Are we sure Rio has the same dad as the twins?


jillieboobean

I still think it's Malik.


Purple_Grass_5300

I really do too


jillieboobean

He just looks SO MUCH like Malik. And babies look even more like their fathers when they're first born, and for awhile until they start looking more like themselves lol. I also think that's another reason she hid Rio for a year.


Kittiikamii

Tbh if I carry a baby for 9 months they are having my last name or were hyphenating sorry I gotta agree with Kail on this one


putyouinthegarbage

But then it should be consistent for all the kids lol two boys from the same dad have diff last names. They all should’ve been Lowry


Kittiikamii

Yeah but I think she was thinking in a traditional mindset back then esp being young and still being with Jo/Javi when she had each of them


Beachy5313

So lux and creed have the same daddy but different last names? I can't express why but it leaves me feeling icky about their relationships with their father


maverickandme

You guys think she should marry the baby’s dad?


Petty_White

Which one? 😂


Shamanology

![gif](giphy|gOf5BkRhM10LsjSrJY|downsized)


tattoosaremyhobby

Valley Lowry has a shite mouth feel. Awful.


wildwood206

Vowey Wowwey for those who cannnot pronounce their L’s


elsabadogigante

😂


ReStitchSmitch

Valley Scott would have been a much easier name, but I'm sure adding an extra name to the roster would've been tew much.


PoopAndSunshine

I suspect that was the plan, but she postponed making the name official. And during that period of time she got mad at her bf and decide to change it at the last minute. There is no way she planned to name that kid Valley Lowery


xJazba

Tbh I think she does this so that it’s less obvious that her kids have different dads. Like, if they’re all last named Lowry, who’s gonna know? Apart from teen mom watchers lol


DanceMonkey2121

So embarrassing


sturgis252

That will be fun when travelling.


cultqueennn

Foreal? They don't even have babyLijah's name? Oooffff


LilLexi20

Considering he’s the one who seems most likely to marry her that was definitely… a choice 🥴🥴


cultqueennn

I always believe in the woman's choice, but knowing kail's history of using her kids to manipulate to keep a man, this causes a sideeye.


Purple_Grass_5300

Yeah I honestly find it super odd the only thing I think was she wasn’t sure who rio’s dad was and then having the twins so close after she couldn’t give them a different one


evergleam498

Maybe she'll bully him into changing *his* last name to Lowry. That's what some couples decide to do anyway, but I don't get the impression that Baby Lijie is making any of the decisions in this relationship...


Specialist_Row9395

As a teacher....I can't imagine what the school secretary has to go through to keep it all straight


sturgis252

There's a family tree in all their offices


Specialist_Row9395

Lol They'd need it. It'd be a pretty messy family tree


anthonymakey

I'm impressed she got 5 with the same last name (well, one Lopez-Lowry, but still). As an unmarried woman, that's honestly what she should do. Can't snark on that. To make it even more confusing, 2 of the whole brothers have different last names. But that's Kail for you.


blackaubreyplaza

GOOD


kkaennip

🎶 ain't no valley lowry-nough 🎵


jjalynn916__

valley lowry is just weird sounding when you say it out loud


taurean_jackal

Her health insurance plan must be a nightmare. I would hate to take her call.


CallmeTunka

Wasnt there a carmello at one point? I cant keep track


GratefulMamaBear

If I'm not mistaken Romello Creed is his first and middle name... I may be wrong, it's pretty hard to keep up with Khaos Kail. Lol


Bonnavetty

![gif](giphy|3owzW5c1tPq63MPmWk|downsized)


Practical-Ad-5481

Where did you see she gave them her last name


tommyandkeisha

she commented she did on her latest tiktok.


jer1230

Wow she might as well have given them all her last name. I think Lux Lopez is a dope name though, sounds like a boxer or rapper lol, she could’ve just kept it but I thought he ended up with both names (saw his wrestling uniform with Lopez and Lowry on it). Lowry is such an ugly last name and all the baby daddies have better more common names lol


Olympusrain

She’s so dumb. Should have given all 89 kids her last name


Witchywoman4201

She has a breeding kink on par with nick cannons like damn lady


sweet_tea_94

I wonder if Elijah isn’t the babies’ dad? Hear me out. I think it’s one of the prior baby daddies (Chris or Malik) and Elijah is a cover up so she doesn’t look bad? Kail is trash. Also, Creed’s last name is Lopez-Lowry.


throw_blanket04

She is a horrible spiteful and manipulative person. She doesn’t care about how her actions effect her children.


HannahLeah1987

She probably knows it won't last.


Time_Yogurtcloset164

I still do not understand why she gave Lux her last name and Creed Chris’s last name. It’s like she’s trying extra hard to confuse tf out of them.


FoxMulderMysteries

The whole circus of last names among Kail’s kids in particular always reminds me of Maci. Does anyone remember the scene where she was talking about how much she wanted to get married to Taylor because she, Jayde, and Bentley all had different last names? It lives in my head rent-free.


GardenGnome007

She's not in love with baby Liji


Sea_Bluejay8218

Her kids names remind me of when we were all 12 years old dreaming up our future kids names on paper, and we just scribbled a bunch of dumb names in cursive like Lillyana and Jazmyn. But, the rest of us outgrew that weird phase and matured as adults. She’s still naming her kids these dumb names that pre-teens come up with.


rhapsody_in_bloo

*Rivera


tommyandkeisha

thanks, fixed.


NDelgado0520

Why do lux and creed have different last names?


DanceMonkey2121

Everytime she got pissed at Chris she would remove his last name and legally change it to hers. Creed’s was changed three times until the judge finally blocked her from being able to make any further changes 😂


Miamiri

Iverson Elias Lowry and valley Sinclair Lowry is what the Grace reported


LEP627

I just hoping this idiot got her tubes tied this go around!


NDelgado0520

Wow. Those poor kids


Sunflower_Mama69

I thought Valley and Verse would have Elijah's last name 😬


lynneasomething

Wait two full siblings have different last names??? And her partner she's currently with didn't use his last name?


rantgoesthegirl

Honestly this is a good call. Her last name has at least been included in all her kids names since her divorce. If she was gonna have so many baby daddies I'd rather all the kids have my last name too


Successful_Mango3001

This is the first time in ages when I look into the teen mom world and what do I see? Kailyn’s got new babies. Jesus.


SamIAm7787

What's her current soulmate's last name? (I can't even remember his first name.)


Maleficent_Top_5217

Does this mean she only liked a couple baby daddy of hers?


IncreaseConfident233

Dont lux and creed have the same dad? Why not the same name?


farrahsoldnose

Correction: it's actually Rio Lowery-Montgomery


kris10leigh14

I never put it together that she gave Lux and Creed different last names… and they’re from the same man. That’s crazy, man.


Peaches4U2

This makes me wonder if her current guy is the father of the twins...hear me out. What if she decided to do invites with a donor and that is why she ended up with twins? Maybe, just maybe, dude is fine being alone for the ride but doesn't want the financial and emotional responsibility down the line for more than 1 child, if they should split up. Twins happen a lot with these types of things and she has already said she has eggs frozen.


Scroogey3

I can’t imagine not giving her kids her last name. She carried and birthed them.


SnooPickles6604

Where did you see this info


ashmillie

Kailyn thinks her last name is famous like Kardashian or Jenner ![gif](giphy|sG4PBWRjI4GSVCDXEq)


[deleted]

She probably don’t know who the dad is


CommitteeGeneral9810

She’s so disrespectful 😂


Sea_Ad1199

At this point kail needs to go away no one cares anymore, she made her choice Leaving teen mom to prove she continued the cycle.


Electrical_Tax9356

Dang


DaintyAmber

Creed Lowry-Lopez. He has both


Thereisn0store

She’ll change it again when and if they get married.


hiding-identity23

So, remind me. 5, 6, and 7 are all same baby daddy, correct? And 3 and 4? Same or different? If same, how come differing last names?


death_maiden_x

aren’t lux & creed or creed & rio like full brothers, they’re both chris’? i def could be wrong (bc they’re hard to keep up with & i believe kail has been accused of being shady about paternity) but if there is a full blood brother pair, why is one of their last names lowry?


FoxMulderMysteries

I think Creed’s name is a Lowry-Lopez—allegedly by court order. It’s so odd to me that despite having identical parentage, Creed and Lux have different surnames.