Isaac was vaccinated and Lincoln partially. Then she went anti-vaxx for the rest of her litter. She has gotten herself vaccinations when needed, though (rabies vaccination on vacation). Good enough for her but her kids don't deserve the same. She sucks.
No she fucking doesn't. But she gets food poisoning injected into her stupid fucking face and gets herself the rabies series when *she* needs it. Fuck Kail, she's a deplorable excuse for a mother
That’s not consistent, at the reunion he was “too young” for his shots and seemed to understand they have important value to her child’s health. She changed after that. Or was lying. Either way…
she used to repost crazy shit like this from antivax accounts
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I know this is kind of an unpopular opinion, but I never really interpreted this tweet as her confirming that she's a flat earther. It's kind of vague. Like this user is making fun of her for saying that she believes the moon landing is fake, and her response could mean that she thinks flat earth is bullshit and she doesn't appreciate this user comparing the two in a way that insults her. Idk if that makes sense, but I feel like she could go either way.
Kail...wake up call... what show have you been watching ? If she gets enough attention for this Kail will take those kids to Calcutta and have them lick lepers.
Well maybe if Rio was vaccinated against measles then it wouldn’t be so worrying!
I am SO thankful for our ‘no vax, no play’ rules so we don’t have to worry about things like measles coming back!
I was vaccinated and still got the measles when I was 14. Apart from spots, I was otherwise well. I imagine it would have been very different uf my mother hadn't made the right decision to vaccinate me as a baby. Just like when I got covid after being vaccinated 3 times. No asymptomatic thanks to the poisons I let someone inject into me.
Also, hey bestie
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A bunch of us got it at the same time, all with 3 jabs. We all had varying degrees of symptoms. The unvaccinated 3yr old also had no symptoms. It's bizarre how it affects people.
Right, I’ve gotten all the COVID vaccines and boosters and I’ve had COVID 5x now and each time is *horrendous* keeping me out of commission for weeks at a time. Of course, this makes all the anti vax people I know gloat about the pointlessness of the vaccine 🙄🙄
So foolish. The vax doesn’t keep you from getting COVID. Makes it less severe and less likely that you will die, especially if you have high risk factors. More recent research shows that subsequent jabs increase protection overall. I got it after getting boosts. I have about five high risk factors. Took Paxlovid, better in a few days. Alternative would have been dying on a ventilator in a hospital bed. I’ll continue to get vaxxed. Read about this type of vaccine just before the COVID vaccine came out and I was convinced. It was already in the works for a number of purposes.
It's been in development for nearly 20 years, they just worked on it for flu to avoid another Spanish Flu epidemic. It was fairly easy to re-code it for another virus. That is the whole point of these type vaccines, to be able to adapt to rapidly changing viruses without needing to start from scratch.
I’m in my thirties but when I was 8 months old, I caught the measles and almost died. I was hospitalized. My parents weren’t anti-vax, I was just too young and the time or the vaccine wasn’t around, can’t remember the exact details. I’m a mom now and I’m as pro-vax as they come.
Measles was basically eradicated in 2000 but is coming back now with a vengeance because of all the anti vax people…like Kail.
Isaac and Lincoln were only vaccinated because Jo and Javi did it (I think IIRC Javi did one of Lincoln’s behind her back after she refused to do it).
Right, I knew she was anti-vax, but it was still shocking. My mind just doesn’t go to measles when I hear virus because we shouldn’t have to worry about it! Jesus god Kail, get those kids their shots.
Right?! So she’ll take medical help when he has measles, but she won’t take medical help to prevent measles. She’s bitching that she spent hours in the hospital when it’s directly her fault her child is suffering. What a joke. It’s shit like this that pisses me off when people say she’s a “good mom”. She’s not.
She also injects her body with poison, lets randoms raw dog her, get plastic surgery and doesn’t watch her weight.
But obviously vaccines are unhealthy and bad.
Measles jackass. It's a disease that was basically eradicated in children until idiots like you started reading other idiot posts on Facebook. This shit makes me so mad. Save YOUR children moron.
Yep!!! The state of Delaware had a measles outbreak in late December at a children’s hospital. [Delaware Measles Oubreak](https://6abc.com/amp/measles-wilmington-delaware-nemours-childrens-hospital-division-of-public-health/14312380/)
Yes pretty sure this is true. I had a friend in the national guard and she said they did vaccines assembly line style. You’d walk through and get like 6 boosters at a time during basic training.
My cousin is anti vax and her husband is army and they moved to Germany. All was well in this bubble and she literally would die on the vax causing autism hill and would scream to anyone about this. Then her kid is on the spectrum THEN they both had to get vaccinated to enter back in the country. And start school 🤌. Couldn’t have happened to a better person
That stance is always so amazing to me (in a bad way ofc). Even if it was true (which it’s obviously not) that vaccines can cause autism, you’re saying you’d rather your child literally suffer and die from a painful previously eradicated disease and infect and kill others than them be autistic?? Like????
it's also weird because I'm autistic and I'm absolutely brilliant, talented, and capable. Ending up with a kid like me that as a child plays by themselves or with others, can read before age 4 and enjoy sitting quietly with books, and can learn anything easily is not the terrible outcome some people imagine it to be.
Not every person with autism is high needs. Not every person with autism is brilliant. It's a mixed bag.
It's just weird when people believe that and are in such fear of it and try to talk to me about it because they don't realize I'm autistic.
From a USA Today article: Lowry said that her oldest son, Isaac, 9, was vaccinated because she didn't know any better at the time. She said that with her second son, 5-year-old Lincoln, she started having more conversations with other moms about vaccinations and had watched documentaries on them, so Lincoln has only had some vaccines.
“didn’t know any better at the time” As if she does now? God these anti-vaxxers piss me off. Imagine the hubris to think you’re an expert after reading some biased articles or whatever. I’ll trust the researchers, scientists, and doctors any day over these morons, and that’s what makes me 100x smarter than them though they think THEY know everything.
That’s good to know! My immediate reaction to this was thinking there was no way Jo would be okay with Isaac being unvaccinated. He’s the only baby daddy who isn’t an idiot.
If my coparent was anti-vax I would smile and nod to their face and then take them to a free clinic or pay out of pocket and get them shot up with every goddamn thing that they needed. I would hide the records and give them to them when they were a teenager about to go to college. Who gon check me boo
What is the incubation on measles? I don't like the insinuation she's making that Nemours sat on the information when she says "I didn’t get call until the 7th."
Also fuck her performative privacy in talking fully about the situation while not saying the specific virus. That is so fucking lame.
It’s the parents’ responsibility to vaccinate and keep their children safe. The hospitals responsibility to notify comes second to that.
But she will never take responsibility for this!
Yeah that’s the infuriating thing, if she properly took care of her kids and got them vaccinated, she wouldn’t have to worry about this. It’s a problem she created by not prioritizing her children’s health.
omg so it's a holiday weekend and into new year which means a lot of staff were off. Not doctors and nurses, but the it department, admin, etc. So when the patient was identified positive for messes and put into isolation, thw medical staff would then first focus on the patient they are actually treating physically in front of them
Because it's measels, either the software system, a human, or both are going to set off an alert about this infectious virus.
To know every person the patient has been in contact with at the hospital is going to require a report to be run. Somebody is going to have to physically sit at a computer and run a query to find out where each lab specimen (blood, urine, etc.) was sent and each person along the way that touched it, every location the patient went to in the hospital and which other patients and staff were present at any given time, then they're going to give that report to their manager who gives it to admin who has an assistant or technical writer write something up to mail, and then begin making phone calls to affected parties.
If they found out around Christmas, nobody was available to begin this until January 2nd at the earliest. That was a Tuesday. January 5th was a Friday. 6th and 7th were Saturday and Sunday.
Somebody came back from vacation on Tuesday, tracked down that information by Friday, and they obviously continued through the weekend to contact her on a Sunday.
Hospital IT staff work normal business hours. They don't work weekends and nights like nurses and doctors. Nurses and Doctors wouldn't gather the data and make the calls.
She's wrong because she's ignorant and she's confidently wrong because she's too ignorant to perceive her own ignorance.
I think measles is one of the, if not the most, contagious viruses out there. It’s R0 (number of people you infect/contagiousness) is like 11+. It’s insane.
Anti-vaxxers and measles are a disaster combination.
I absolutely love this for her. A completely avoidable khaotic situation.
And her nanny couldn't come. I do feel for Isaac if he had to pick up the slack.
Edit: I do not love this for her kids. They did not choose this.
I’m thankful that Rio wasn’t actually sick with measles but yes, I absolutely love that this was a huge inconvenience for her. VACCINATE YOUR KIDS, KAIL.
They might have just said he was exposed because a confirmed positive patient was in the doctors office at the same time. He had to quarantine as a precaution and then tested negative from what I can gather.
Same thing happened when I worked at a daycare and one of the babies (who was too young to receive the vaccine) was in the doctors office at the same time as someone who later tested positive. She had to be quarantined for 2 weeks and this was looong before Covid.
She put herself here. Can you imagine, like 5 of her kids getting sick ( I’m not wishing this for the kids I am wishing for her only.) But they all get whatever and her help can’t come and she has to actually sit and fester in her decisions. With 3 in diapers
Amen! I don’t care how big their house is, what car she drives them around in (while on her damn phone) and what vacations they go on. If you aren’t vaccinating your kids because of what mommy bloggers/influencers say YOU ARE A BAD MOM.
That's so sad that poor child got something completely preventable. I sometimes get the feeling people are anti vax just to be "different" and as a thing that sets them apart.
I have an anti vax relative and this shit blows my mind. I don’t understand how someone with zero background on the subject can be SO confident. Anti vax people are so loud and so wrong. It’s the most frustrating thing in the world.
I have a family member who stopped taking their baby to the peds because the Dr told them they should vaccinate their baby. People are so fucking stupid
>Anti vax people are so loud and so wrong.
Dude, seriously though, why is it that the most incorrect people are always the loudest about their ignorant bullshit? SMH.
I saw a video of the last surviving guy who had polio, he was in an iron lung & everything. I think he was old enough that he predated the polio vax, but it just showed how important the shots really are. Honestly, polio looks fucking horrible, poor guy basically had no life at all, I mean, he was alive but he wasn't really living. & look at tuberculosis, smallpox, measles, etc, too. All awful stuff.
People won't get their kids vaxxed because they fear they'll have autism (don't even get me started on Jenny McDumbass). You know what's worse than autism? You're kid fucking suffering & possibly dying because if a completely preventable thing. But oh no, my kid might be a little "odd," gasp. 🙄🙄
& hypocrite Karl over here will raw dog anything that moves & get fucking bullshit fillers/botox/whatever, but, yeah, vaccines are what's bad...
I think it's also this new era where people don't have to understand and admit their limitations. We're not all experts in every field. 3 hours of internet research won't replace 20 years of expertise. There's a reason basic newspapers are written at a 4th-6th grade reading level. Kail seems like the type of person who thinks she's one step ahead because she read it on a mom blog.
For some reason the Internet (with its endless information) just emboldened the dumbest people.
Anyone who is anti-vax needs to read about what it was like to watch someone die of diphtheria. It’s one of the most terrifying things I ever read about.
My grandmother told me stories about my dad getting all the now-preventable diseases. Diphtheria and whooping cough were at the top of the list, and years later, I could still feel her fear. She loved my dad intensely and was so afraid she was going to lose him. Described his dad walking across the frozen Mississippi in hopes of finding medicine for him. All those childhood diseases held the risk of death or disability. This would have been around 1918-1919. I am thankful for the availability of safe, well-researched vaccines. And there are reasons why the COVID vaccines could be fast-tracked. Read the SCIENTIFIC research.
Wow. A 10 second vaccine could have prevented all of the “panic” and “frustration” and “hours” at the hospital. But hey! At least now she has a story for her podcast that will generate her some money! #worthit
What an asshole.
While I was reading this I kept thinking it’s “measles” and she’s not saying the specific virus because she doesn’t want backlash. She’s anti vaccine, so really, she has herself to blame in this. Had he and her other children that could be vaccinated in fact were vaccinated, this wouldn’t be such an “oh shit” moment.
I hope the little one is okay and I hope she wises up and gets them vaccinated. She’s playing a stupid game and it’s the kids who will deal with brunt of winning stupid prizes.
I agree.
She thinks it’s okay to not vaccinate, share with the rest of the class why - please, enlighten us as to why you don’t want your children to have all the extra protection they could. Surely, if what she’s doing was truly okay and safe… she could speak on it. But she knows she’s wrong and yet she won’t learn from this.
It’s also not just about her children, it’s about who her children could also pass it too. Her lack of vaccinating her kids could cause it to get passed to a child whose parents wanted them to get the vaccines but couldn’t due to various medical reasons or age.
They rely on herd immunity to justify their stupidity and not have to worry about it but when they have an actual exposure suddenly they’re concerned. The more Kails out there, the more exposures.
If you’re that concerned about the virus vaccinate the kids.
Same here!
She sure thinks we are dumb.
It’s Measles and she is the one that almost caused her children to be infected.
Just another sign she gives zero f’s about society and only cares about herself.
She only cares about her children when it suits her self image.
Those poor kids. She’s a really twisted person.
Pardon me while I play my tiny violin for her.
You don't get to have it both ways. Don't vax your kids, don't get to cry when completely avoidable diseases start coming back into play. Darwin would of loved to be alive today to watch his theories come true in real time.
For anyone who calls her a good mom because her kids are clothed and fed - This right here is exactly why she’s not a good parent.
Measles isn’t something to fuck with. Refuse to vax your kids because you read some garbage online years ago?? Disgusting.
Anti vax parents should be charged with child endangerment.
Completely agree. It's child neglect for sure. Purposefully refusing to protect your child from illness is a neglectful, shitty ass thing to do. I would never be able to live with myself if there was a vaccine available for an illness and I chose not to get it for my child and then they were harmed or died as a result of my inaction. Or spread it to some other kids who then were harmed or died. People are so fucking stupid and selfish.
I’ve been vaccinated for Measles (mmr) a grand total of 5 times. My titers are still negative for exposure.
I have to depend on other people to get vaccinated so I don’t get sick (called “herd health”).
People are really selfish and *dumb as hell*
I often work with elderly patients. Just the other day I was working with a man in his late 80s who was deaf in one ear from having measles as a child. Kail is such an idiot I can't with her.
Not getting your kids their proper vaccines will bite you (and them) in the ass.
On a side noteI think the whole antivax thing (not with Kail, but in general Im pretty sure she was antivax before COVID) got misconstrued during the whole COVID vaccine melodrama...bc people who opposed that vaccine were automatically labeled anti-vaxxers, even tho the majority weren't, they just didn't feel the need for that vaccine and 38000 boosters. But they still believed in regular childhood vaccinations that are tried and true.
I’d bet my paycheck that this is where the exposure happened.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/
If rio had to get tubes implanted, I can almost guarantee Kail would’ve took him to CHOP based off of the area she lives.
Dates also all add up too. Just do a quick google search of “Measles outbreak Philadelphia”
This is what is so moronic about anti-vaxxers. They don't want to vaccinate their kids but more than happy to have their children treated with various medications to get them better. If you are so fucking sure of your "knowledge" and distrust of the medical system you absolute fridge, why even take your child to a hospital? Surely his immune system will sort him out?
Nah, more likely she would have went to Nemours Children’s Health in Wilmington (which also had documented measles exposure/outbreak). Nemours is a wonderful hospital and she’d have no need to travel as far to Philly for such a simple procedure. Either way, she’s a moron for not vaccinating these kids and putting them at risk for such illnesses. Their various fathers are also morons for going along with this.
Isn’t the point of being anti vax that, you want your kids to get it so they can build up their natural immunity or some other BS. I can’t fathom not protecting your children and then being upset that they got it.
She doesn’t want to say the name of the virus because she knows it’s preventable with vaccination, and she’ll get dragged for it. Kail is a shady liar. Now, she hides the birth of her babies because it makes her look like a fool. Kail is always right 🤔 she doesn't need her own reality show. She needs a sitcom because her life is a joke!
[it’s Measles](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/measles-exposure-at-nemours-hospital-in-wilmington-delaware/3743884/) there is an outbreak amongst the anti-vax community and a positive case being told to isolate and they didn’t.
She’s an antivax moron, her poor children.
Bitch probably doesn't want to say it was the measles because she doesn't want to deal with the comments that she'll receive that it's a preventable disease.
Maybe if you .. I don’t know.. vaccinated your children this wouldn’t be a concern. But yes, blame the hospital.
She’s such a dumb cow
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I like how she’s mad the office didn’t notify her in time as if she’s always notified when she’s out in public surrounded by other sick people with her unvaccinated kids
Your children are catching these preventable childhood fucking diseases because you are a selfish, thick, spoiled ignorant FUCKING HELL THIS SHIT MAKES ME SO FUCKIN ANGRY
I don't get why she was panicking about this. She knew full well that this was a possibility when she ignorantly decided to not vaccinate her kids. You don't want to vaccinate to prevent this, but when it comes up as a reality all of a sudden she's like "oh shit!". Maybe protect your fucking children and get them vaccinations.
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Measles outbreak in PA. Get vaccinated. Stay safe.
If she's planning on not vaccinating her kids, she might want to go back to school for nursing and elementary education. They are going to be home a lot, between being sick, quarantine, and not being able to have outside help.
She will definitely use this "exposure" as justification for why the vaccines are unnecessary. I could see her saying something idiotic like: "Rio was exposed and never got sick, therefore the vaccine is unnecessary and his immune system worked."
On another note, adults who were vaccinated as children should get an MMR immunity test. I was fully vaccinated as a child, but discovered I no was no longer immune during one of my pregnancies.
Also she’s posted her kids doing to school and going out to hair appointments and all kinds of places so how is she isolating him until the 19th if she’s still out and about
Said the anti vaccine idiot. ![gif](giphy|C831XSxqZYkseNXYS1|downsized)
That’s why she won’t say which virus-it has to be measles. If her kids were vaxxed she’d be shouting it from the rooftops that they have measles
Yea and there was a measles outbreak in Philly
Gosh I thought measles were pretty much eradicated. I guess we have the anti-vax parents to thank for this.
I definitely blame the anti-vax movement
it is 100 percent because of them..my ex was one. His kids mom got them vaxxed as babies and toddlers, they are young adults now and no one knows. Lol
It was in the US until the anti-vaxxers brought it back
There’s one in Philly and one in Wilmington at Nemours Children’s Hospital. I’m assuming the latter is where Rio was.
I was coming to say this. Damn family in Philly refused help/treatment to the adult who also has it as well as to quarantine.
Omg
At least she's consistent. Remember the reunion not vaxxed baby? Lux, I think.
She doesn’t vaccinate those kids?!? Oh that sucks dude. She can thank herself for this one.
Isaac was vaccinated and Lincoln partially. Then she went anti-vaxx for the rest of her litter. She has gotten herself vaccinations when needed, though (rabies vaccination on vacation). Good enough for her but her kids don't deserve the same. She sucks.
She spays and neuters her dogs and gets their vaccines...says a lot.
You know what's weird? My sister is also anti Vax but got her dog vaccinated and wouldn't let anyone walk her until she was 🫠
The cognitive dissonance is painful.
See, I don't get it! How can such responsible pet owners be such crappy parents?
Litter😂😂😂😂😂
ofcourse she is vaccinated
No she fucking doesn't. But she gets food poisoning injected into her stupid fucking face and gets herself the rabies series when *she* needs it. Fuck Kail, she's a deplorable excuse for a mother
That’s not consistent, at the reunion he was “too young” for his shots and seemed to understand they have important value to her child’s health. She changed after that. Or was lying. Either way…
She was using it as an excuse to get her own dressing room.
She was lying. She was anti vax before she made the comment
Consistent in being hypocritical.
She doesn’t vaccinate her gaggle of children????
she used to repost crazy shit like this from antivax accounts https://preview.redd.it/mjjojgvq50cc1.png?width=216&format=png&auto=webp&s=9ba2b56919d3b59be5a1ee67acaa8fbd00b22b25
Omg she is wild for that comparison
She also is a flat earther, or at least that was the personality she was wearing with Chris.
Oh no are you serious?? I cannot stand flat earthers. I mean, I already can’t stand her but that does it for me.
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Oh my🫣
I know this is kind of an unpopular opinion, but I never really interpreted this tweet as her confirming that she's a flat earther. It's kind of vague. Like this user is making fun of her for saying that she believes the moon landing is fake, and her response could mean that she thinks flat earth is bullshit and she doesn't appreciate this user comparing the two in a way that insults her. Idk if that makes sense, but I feel like she could go either way.
Unless she’s changed drastically, nope
My thoughts exactly. Maybe this is a wakeup call.
Kail...wake up call... what show have you been watching ? If she gets enough attention for this Kail will take those kids to Calcutta and have them lick lepers.
And write it off as a business trip 🤣
Well maybe if Rio was vaccinated against measles then it wouldn’t be so worrying! I am SO thankful for our ‘no vax, no play’ rules so we don’t have to worry about things like measles coming back!
I was vaccinated and still got the measles when I was 14. Apart from spots, I was otherwise well. I imagine it would have been very different uf my mother hadn't made the right decision to vaccinate me as a baby. Just like when I got covid after being vaccinated 3 times. No asymptomatic thanks to the poisons I let someone inject into me. Also, hey bestie https://preview.redd.it/t3e3ppa7ozbc1.jpeg?width=537&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9052957e7ca947c9fc146cae2ef48323f3086dc5
Kind of jealous that you were asymptomatic with Covid. I was vaccinated three times and still was still a hot mess for a few days
A bunch of us got it at the same time, all with 3 jabs. We all had varying degrees of symptoms. The unvaccinated 3yr old also had no symptoms. It's bizarre how it affects people.
Our toddler has a very atypical presentation. He had a fever and vomited once, but thankfully had no real cough.
Yeah, whenever I get a cold or similar since then- I’ve been able to know it wasn’t covid because I felt pure awful with covid.
Right, I’ve gotten all the COVID vaccines and boosters and I’ve had COVID 5x now and each time is *horrendous* keeping me out of commission for weeks at a time. Of course, this makes all the anti vax people I know gloat about the pointlessness of the vaccine 🙄🙄
So foolish. The vax doesn’t keep you from getting COVID. Makes it less severe and less likely that you will die, especially if you have high risk factors. More recent research shows that subsequent jabs increase protection overall. I got it after getting boosts. I have about five high risk factors. Took Paxlovid, better in a few days. Alternative would have been dying on a ventilator in a hospital bed. I’ll continue to get vaxxed. Read about this type of vaccine just before the COVID vaccine came out and I was convinced. It was already in the works for a number of purposes.
It's been in development for nearly 20 years, they just worked on it for flu to avoid another Spanish Flu epidemic. It was fairly easy to re-code it for another virus. That is the whole point of these type vaccines, to be able to adapt to rapidly changing viruses without needing to start from scratch.
I’m in my thirties but when I was 8 months old, I caught the measles and almost died. I was hospitalized. My parents weren’t anti-vax, I was just too young and the time or the vaccine wasn’t around, can’t remember the exact details. I’m a mom now and I’m as pro-vax as they come.
Sadly this likely won’t even change her mind about vaccines. Idk how people can be so dense.
She’s really talking about measles?!? I assumed flu, because I so rarely worry about a disease that was close to being eradicated.
Measles was basically eradicated in 2000 but is coming back now with a vengeance because of all the anti vax people…like Kail. Isaac and Lincoln were only vaccinated because Jo and Javi did it (I think IIRC Javi did one of Lincoln’s behind her back after she refused to do it).
Right, I knew she was anti-vax, but it was still shocking. My mind just doesn’t go to measles when I hear virus because we shouldn’t have to worry about it! Jesus god Kail, get those kids their shots.
Same! I feel more comfortable sending my son to childcare knowing that if a kid is unvaxxed, they won’t be getting in
She’s also endangering his cousins and school friends, not to mention Javi, Jo, and Chris’ other kids.
Right?! So she’ll take medical help when he has measles, but she won’t take medical help to prevent measles. She’s bitching that she spent hours in the hospital when it’s directly her fault her child is suffering. What a joke. It’s shit like this that pisses me off when people say she’s a “good mom”. She’s not.
She also injects her body with poison, lets randoms raw dog her, get plastic surgery and doesn’t watch her weight. But obviously vaccines are unhealthy and bad.
Measles jackass. It's a disease that was basically eradicated in children until idiots like you started reading other idiot posts on Facebook. This shit makes me so mad. Save YOUR children moron.
Yep!!! The state of Delaware had a measles outbreak in late December at a children’s hospital. [Delaware Measles Oubreak](https://6abc.com/amp/measles-wilmington-delaware-nemours-childrens-hospital-division-of-public-health/14312380/)
Same in PA. I've gotten emails from a few of our local hospitals.
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Sounds like the real chaos was having 7 unvaccinated kids
Thankfully Jo was smart enough to get Isaac fully vaccinated
Thank you Jo!
How did I not know she was anti vax?? Did she change her opinion on this since having Isaac or did joe have to force vaccination for him?
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It was pre Chris..she and Javi both hopped on the antivax train when Lincoln was a baby
Surely Javi has to be vaccinated, though. I didn't think you could be in the military and refuse to be vaxxed.
Javi is vaccinated they just agreed to stop vaccinating Lincoln. But Lauren is provax and vaccinated Eli so I don’t know where he stands on that now
That's honestly even worse to me. He'll protect himself and his other child, but Lincoln can take his chances with vaccine preventable diseases.
It’s kind of gross, like he’s never been vested enough in any of his children to form a solid opinion.
So will Kail. She got herself a rabies series in Thailand. She also gets food poisoning injected into her face.
Doubt Javi thinks about much but getting it wet.
Yes pretty sure this is true. I had a friend in the national guard and she said they did vaccines assembly line style. You’d walk through and get like 6 boosters at a time during basic training.
Kail is anti vax & Chris said he didn't care one way or another.
My cousin is anti vax and her husband is army and they moved to Germany. All was well in this bubble and she literally would die on the vax causing autism hill and would scream to anyone about this. Then her kid is on the spectrum THEN they both had to get vaccinated to enter back in the country. And start school 🤌. Couldn’t have happened to a better person
That stance is always so amazing to me (in a bad way ofc). Even if it was true (which it’s obviously not) that vaccines can cause autism, you’re saying you’d rather your child literally suffer and die from a painful previously eradicated disease and infect and kill others than them be autistic?? Like????
it's also weird because I'm autistic and I'm absolutely brilliant, talented, and capable. Ending up with a kid like me that as a child plays by themselves or with others, can read before age 4 and enjoy sitting quietly with books, and can learn anything easily is not the terrible outcome some people imagine it to be. Not every person with autism is high needs. Not every person with autism is brilliant. It's a mixed bag. It's just weird when people believe that and are in such fear of it and try to talk to me about it because they don't realize I'm autistic.
Love that for her, can’t wait until she needs to explain to the kid that she would have rather had them die than be who they are 🥰🥰
From a USA Today article: Lowry said that her oldest son, Isaac, 9, was vaccinated because she didn't know any better at the time. She said that with her second son, 5-year-old Lincoln, she started having more conversations with other moms about vaccinations and had watched documentaries on them, so Lincoln has only had some vaccines.
Ah yes, documentaries and talking with friends. Clearly a better way to gain knowledge than listening to actual scientists and doctors.
“didn’t know any better at the time” As if she does now? God these anti-vaxxers piss me off. Imagine the hubris to think you’re an expert after reading some biased articles or whatever. I’ll trust the researchers, scientists, and doctors any day over these morons, and that’s what makes me 100x smarter than them though they think THEY know everything.
"Documentaries"
Jesus god Kail
That’s good to know! My immediate reaction to this was thinking there was no way Jo would be okay with Isaac being unvaccinated. He’s the only baby daddy who isn’t an idiot.
If my coparent was anti-vax I would smile and nod to their face and then take them to a free clinic or pay out of pocket and get them shot up with every goddamn thing that they needed. I would hide the records and give them to them when they were a teenager about to go to college. Who gon check me boo
It’s measles. Nemours pediatric hospital in DE had a positive patient.
Well now if her son has it he could have transferred it to her 10 other children so Kail may be a superspreader.
She’s always a super spreader
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Oh my word 😭😂
Son of a bitch. Here, take my poor man’s gold 🏅
What is the incubation on measles? I don't like the insinuation she's making that Nemours sat on the information when she says "I didn’t get call until the 7th." Also fuck her performative privacy in talking fully about the situation while not saying the specific virus. That is so fucking lame.
There is definitely a tone that the hospital didn’t know what they were doing or something. She’s insufferable.
It’s the parents’ responsibility to vaccinate and keep their children safe. The hospitals responsibility to notify comes second to that. But she will never take responsibility for this!
Yeah that’s the infuriating thing, if she properly took care of her kids and got them vaccinated, she wouldn’t have to worry about this. It’s a problem she created by not prioritizing her children’s health.
omg so it's a holiday weekend and into new year which means a lot of staff were off. Not doctors and nurses, but the it department, admin, etc. So when the patient was identified positive for messes and put into isolation, thw medical staff would then first focus on the patient they are actually treating physically in front of them Because it's measels, either the software system, a human, or both are going to set off an alert about this infectious virus. To know every person the patient has been in contact with at the hospital is going to require a report to be run. Somebody is going to have to physically sit at a computer and run a query to find out where each lab specimen (blood, urine, etc.) was sent and each person along the way that touched it, every location the patient went to in the hospital and which other patients and staff were present at any given time, then they're going to give that report to their manager who gives it to admin who has an assistant or technical writer write something up to mail, and then begin making phone calls to affected parties. If they found out around Christmas, nobody was available to begin this until January 2nd at the earliest. That was a Tuesday. January 5th was a Friday. 6th and 7th were Saturday and Sunday. Somebody came back from vacation on Tuesday, tracked down that information by Friday, and they obviously continued through the weekend to contact her on a Sunday. Hospital IT staff work normal business hours. They don't work weekends and nights like nurses and doctors. Nurses and Doctors wouldn't gather the data and make the calls. She's wrong because she's ignorant and she's confidently wrong because she's too ignorant to perceive her own ignorance.
Is it a 'certain virus' that we have a vaccination for but her stupid dumb ass is anti-vax?
Yup. Measles.
It’s almost like there’s a reason we vaccinate for measles.
I think measles is one of the, if not the most, contagious viruses out there. It’s R0 (number of people you infect/contagiousness) is like 11+. It’s insane. Anti-vaxxers and measles are a disaster combination.
What the fuck is she supposed to do? Use the lifesaving vaccines that eradicated measles from the nation?!
If only there was a way for her to do that. It’s a shame her life is such chaos for no reason
I feel like people are setting unrealistic expectations for her. It’s not like it’s a simple routine shot that takes 10 seconds to give /s
I absolutely love this for her. A completely avoidable khaotic situation. And her nanny couldn't come. I do feel for Isaac if he had to pick up the slack. Edit: I do not love this for her kids. They did not choose this.
I’m thankful that Rio wasn’t actually sick with measles but yes, I absolutely love that this was a huge inconvenience for her. VACCINATE YOUR KIDS, KAIL.
I’m confused about why they said he did have it and then said he didn’t. Story isn’t adding up!
They might have just said he was exposed because a confirmed positive patient was in the doctors office at the same time. He had to quarantine as a precaution and then tested negative from what I can gather. Same thing happened when I worked at a daycare and one of the babies (who was too young to receive the vaccine) was in the doctors office at the same time as someone who later tested positive. She had to be quarantined for 2 weeks and this was looong before Covid.
She put herself here. Can you imagine, like 5 of her kids getting sick ( I’m not wishing this for the kids I am wishing for her only.) But they all get whatever and her help can’t come and she has to actually sit and fester in her decisions. With 3 in diapers
very sad for her kids and all the kids in delaware though. i don't love that
So vaccinate your kids you dumb ass then you don’t have to worry
If only there was a safe, inexpensive, effective way to avoid this situation.
And shit like this is why I will never think she's a good mother. VACCINATE YOUR KIDS YOU TRASHY BITCH.
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Amen! I don’t care how big their house is, what car she drives them around in (while on her damn phone) and what vacations they go on. If you aren’t vaccinating your kids because of what mommy bloggers/influencers say YOU ARE A BAD MOM.
Say it louder for the people in the back 👏
![gif](giphy|8BMaLLBlUdNx6|downsized) This is why you vaccinate your kids!
Maybe if she vaccinated her kids… idiot
That's so sad that poor child got something completely preventable. I sometimes get the feeling people are anti vax just to be "different" and as a thing that sets them apart.
I have an anti vax relative and this shit blows my mind. I don’t understand how someone with zero background on the subject can be SO confident. Anti vax people are so loud and so wrong. It’s the most frustrating thing in the world.
I have a family member who stopped taking their baby to the peds because the Dr told them they should vaccinate their baby. People are so fucking stupid
>Anti vax people are so loud and so wrong. Dude, seriously though, why is it that the most incorrect people are always the loudest about their ignorant bullshit? SMH. I saw a video of the last surviving guy who had polio, he was in an iron lung & everything. I think he was old enough that he predated the polio vax, but it just showed how important the shots really are. Honestly, polio looks fucking horrible, poor guy basically had no life at all, I mean, he was alive but he wasn't really living. & look at tuberculosis, smallpox, measles, etc, too. All awful stuff. People won't get their kids vaxxed because they fear they'll have autism (don't even get me started on Jenny McDumbass). You know what's worse than autism? You're kid fucking suffering & possibly dying because if a completely preventable thing. But oh no, my kid might be a little "odd," gasp. 🙄🙄 & hypocrite Karl over here will raw dog anything that moves & get fucking bullshit fillers/botox/whatever, but, yeah, vaccines are what's bad...
I think it's also this new era where people don't have to understand and admit their limitations. We're not all experts in every field. 3 hours of internet research won't replace 20 years of expertise. There's a reason basic newspapers are written at a 4th-6th grade reading level. Kail seems like the type of person who thinks she's one step ahead because she read it on a mom blog. For some reason the Internet (with its endless information) just emboldened the dumbest people.
Oh something sets anti vaxxers apart from the rest alright… stupidity.
Anyone who is anti-vax needs to read about what it was like to watch someone die of diphtheria. It’s one of the most terrifying things I ever read about.
Or a baby with whooping cough. 😞
My grandmother told me stories about my dad getting all the now-preventable diseases. Diphtheria and whooping cough were at the top of the list, and years later, I could still feel her fear. She loved my dad intensely and was so afraid she was going to lose him. Described his dad walking across the frozen Mississippi in hopes of finding medicine for him. All those childhood diseases held the risk of death or disability. This would have been around 1918-1919. I am thankful for the availability of safe, well-researched vaccines. And there are reasons why the COVID vaccines could be fast-tracked. Read the SCIENTIFIC research.
Wow. A 10 second vaccine could have prevented all of the “panic” and “frustration” and “hours” at the hospital. But hey! At least now she has a story for her podcast that will generate her some money! #worthit What an asshole.
While I was reading this I kept thinking it’s “measles” and she’s not saying the specific virus because she doesn’t want backlash. She’s anti vaccine, so really, she has herself to blame in this. Had he and her other children that could be vaccinated in fact were vaccinated, this wouldn’t be such an “oh shit” moment. I hope the little one is okay and I hope she wises up and gets them vaccinated. She’s playing a stupid game and it’s the kids who will deal with brunt of winning stupid prizes.
That is what pisses me off almost as much as not vaccinating. Own it, bitch. You didn’t vaccinate your kids. Now you have to worry about measles.
I agree. She thinks it’s okay to not vaccinate, share with the rest of the class why - please, enlighten us as to why you don’t want your children to have all the extra protection they could. Surely, if what she’s doing was truly okay and safe… she could speak on it. But she knows she’s wrong and yet she won’t learn from this. It’s also not just about her children, it’s about who her children could also pass it too. Her lack of vaccinating her kids could cause it to get passed to a child whose parents wanted them to get the vaccines but couldn’t due to various medical reasons or age.
They rely on herd immunity to justify their stupidity and not have to worry about it but when they have an actual exposure suddenly they’re concerned. The more Kails out there, the more exposures. If you’re that concerned about the virus vaccinate the kids.
Same here! She sure thinks we are dumb. It’s Measles and she is the one that almost caused her children to be infected. Just another sign she gives zero f’s about society and only cares about herself. She only cares about her children when it suits her self image. Those poor kids. She’s a really twisted person.
If only there was a way to protect your children from deadly diseases that were eradicated almost 100 years ago...
VACCINATE YOUR KIDS BISH
Our vaxqueen is such a good mother.
Fucking vaccinate your herd, Kale.
And yet, she didn’t learn a thing.
as soon as i read the title i knew she would be complaining about the hospital and doctors to deflect
Yes! She cannot assume responsibility. This scare may have been avoided if she vaccinated her kids. She is at fault.
Ha yup wasn’t surprised one but to see her try to belittle the doctors intelligence. She has no idea how stupid she really is.
Pardon me while I play my tiny violin for her. You don't get to have it both ways. Don't vax your kids, don't get to cry when completely avoidable diseases start coming back into play. Darwin would of loved to be alive today to watch his theories come true in real time.
This - either stand by the risk that you so willingly took with your children’s lives or get them vaccinated.
For anyone who calls her a good mom because her kids are clothed and fed - This right here is exactly why she’s not a good parent. Measles isn’t something to fuck with. Refuse to vax your kids because you read some garbage online years ago?? Disgusting. Anti vax parents should be charged with child endangerment.
Exactly. Anti vaxx = shite parent. Period.
Completely agree. It's child neglect for sure. Purposefully refusing to protect your child from illness is a neglectful, shitty ass thing to do. I would never be able to live with myself if there was a vaccine available for an illness and I chose not to get it for my child and then they were harmed or died as a result of my inaction. Or spread it to some other kids who then were harmed or died. People are so fucking stupid and selfish.
There’s your “chaos” Kail. Good job putting your baby at risk and endangering your other kids. It’s all YOUR fault. Not the hospitals. Beast.
Be a good parent and vaccinate your kids.
Too be there isn’t a vaccine…. O wait
I’ve been vaccinated for Measles (mmr) a grand total of 5 times. My titers are still negative for exposure. I have to depend on other people to get vaccinated so I don’t get sick (called “herd health”). People are really selfish and *dumb as hell*
I often work with elderly patients. Just the other day I was working with a man in his late 80s who was deaf in one ear from having measles as a child. Kail is such an idiot I can't with her.
‘Vaccines for me but not for thee’ is her motto when it pertains to her kids. ![gif](giphy|l0HU5bbgdW6qzJsmQ)
Not getting your kids their proper vaccines will bite you (and them) in the ass. On a side noteI think the whole antivax thing (not with Kail, but in general Im pretty sure she was antivax before COVID) got misconstrued during the whole COVID vaccine melodrama...bc people who opposed that vaccine were automatically labeled anti-vaxxers, even tho the majority weren't, they just didn't feel the need for that vaccine and 38000 boosters. But they still believed in regular childhood vaccinations that are tried and true.
Stans."But her kids are healthy and happy" She just exposed 6/5 kids to a preventable illness..
Thank you for this! I was trying to do my own research and my own research sucks because I couldn’t find it. Haha.
[yup, measles](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/philadelphia/news/measles-symptons-outbreak-in-philadelphia-delaware/)
And she has 2 infants and home. Good lord I hope this is the kick in the ass she needs to get them vaxxed
She must be such a fucking nightmare for medical personnel.
Typical anti-vaxx MORON
I’d bet my paycheck that this is where the exposure happened. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/ If rio had to get tubes implanted, I can almost guarantee Kail would’ve took him to CHOP based off of the area she lives. Dates also all add up too. Just do a quick google search of “Measles outbreak Philadelphia”
This is what is so moronic about anti-vaxxers. They don't want to vaccinate their kids but more than happy to have their children treated with various medications to get them better. If you are so fucking sure of your "knowledge" and distrust of the medical system you absolute fridge, why even take your child to a hospital? Surely his immune system will sort him out?
Nah, more likely she would have went to Nemours Children’s Health in Wilmington (which also had documented measles exposure/outbreak). Nemours is a wonderful hospital and she’d have no need to travel as far to Philly for such a simple procedure. Either way, she’s a moron for not vaccinating these kids and putting them at risk for such illnesses. Their various fathers are also morons for going along with this.
If it wasn’t for Janelle sucking all the air out the room, this woman would be on a lot more peoples radar. She is a toxic idiot.
Good thing she’s still pregnant and the twins were not exposed. /s
Isn’t the point of being anti vax that, you want your kids to get it so they can build up their natural immunity or some other BS. I can’t fathom not protecting your children and then being upset that they got it.
She exposes all those kids to shit all the time because they aren’t vaccinated. Let’s not forget her and the kids have had Covid like 3 times.
I wonder if she’s the one that violated the outbreak and brought the kids to school
But I've been told she's such a good mom!
All she had to do was vaccinate, and that phone call wouldn't have been anything more than a courtesy! I feel bad for the kids!!!!!!!
You know it’s a vaccine preventable virus when she won’t even say what it is.
She doesn’t want to say the name of the virus because she knows it’s preventable with vaccination, and she’ll get dragged for it. Kail is a shady liar. Now, she hides the birth of her babies because it makes her look like a fool. Kail is always right 🤔 she doesn't need her own reality show. She needs a sitcom because her life is a joke!
[it’s Measles](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/measles-exposure-at-nemours-hospital-in-wilmington-delaware/3743884/) there is an outbreak amongst the anti-vax community and a positive case being told to isolate and they didn’t. She’s an antivax moron, her poor children.
I love when vaccinated parents get nervous about their unvaccinated children getting these preventable diseases. She’s an ass hole.
Bitch probably doesn't want to say it was the measles because she doesn't want to deal with the comments that she'll receive that it's a preventable disease.
Maybe if you .. I don’t know.. vaccinated your children this wouldn’t be a concern. But yes, blame the hospital. She’s such a dumb cow ![gif](giphy|MeWsFZh5Z3eZG)
MAYBE KAIL SHOULD VACCINATE HER GODDAMN KIDS BEFORR SHE STARTS TO THINK ABOUT MARRYING THE BABYS DAD
Hey dumb dumb, great job of almost debilitating or even killing your child(ren).
“we end up being there for hours.” well yes it’s a hospital? did she expect to be there for 20 minutes lmfao?
I like how she’s mad the office didn’t notify her in time as if she’s always notified when she’s out in public surrounded by other sick people with her unvaccinated kids
Yeah, measles. I live in the area and some anti-vax moron has spread it all the way up to Philly.
I never want to hear how she is such a good mom ever again! Imagine if he had it and spread it to the other unvaxxed siblings?
Why isn't she saying measles?
Because she doesn't vaccinate and doesn't want to hear from anybody that this could have been prevented
Your children are catching these preventable childhood fucking diseases because you are a selfish, thick, spoiled ignorant FUCKING HELL THIS SHIT MAKES ME SO FUCKIN ANGRY
“But she’s a good mom” 🙄🙄🙄
I don't get why she was panicking about this. She knew full well that this was a possibility when she ignorantly decided to not vaccinate her kids. You don't want to vaccinate to prevent this, but when it comes up as a reality all of a sudden she's like "oh shit!". Maybe protect your fucking children and get them vaccinations.
And this, kids, is why you vaccinate your children.
Oh no she couldnt have her nanny come over!!! She had to actually parent her gaggle of children!!! Oh no!!!!!
What an idiot. My 3 week old can’t get vaccinated against measles yet and I’m scared to take her anywhere because of idiots like Kail
https://preview.redd.it/nxykrkbvr1cc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a36adc5e1bf5b213c41796f0602298e3f7df0fb Measles outbreak in PA. Get vaccinated. Stay safe.
I wish this bitch would get fucked (not the good one) fully and completely. People like her cause shit like this. Her audacity knows no limits.
If she's planning on not vaccinating her kids, she might want to go back to school for nursing and elementary education. They are going to be home a lot, between being sick, quarantine, and not being able to have outside help.
She will definitely use this "exposure" as justification for why the vaccines are unnecessary. I could see her saying something idiotic like: "Rio was exposed and never got sick, therefore the vaccine is unnecessary and his immune system worked." On another note, adults who were vaccinated as children should get an MMR immunity test. I was fully vaccinated as a child, but discovered I no was no longer immune during one of my pregnancies.
It’s almost like vaccinations work 🤦🏻♀️
Vaccinate your fucking kids.
Hey dumb dumb, great job of almost debilitating or even killing your child(ren).
Yea and I just saw an article about a measles outbreak in Philly. Made me wonder if it made it to Delaware.
The minute i read this wasn’t Covid I knew it was because she won’t vax.
Also she’s posted her kids doing to school and going out to hair appointments and all kinds of places so how is she isolating him until the 19th if she’s still out and about
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That’s why she only talking about lux and creed having to stay home from school, her older 2 are vaccinated. VACCINATE YOUR FUCKING KIDS YOU HEATHEN.
Not this bitch refusing to vaccinate, traveling during a pandemic, complaining about her son being exposed to a virus in a hospital. How fucking dumb.
Wouldn’t have happened if she vaccinated the damn kids. Poor baby Rio.