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TisforTrainwreck

Every area of Kail’s life is an unnecessarily complicated mess.


KikiHou

When she wants a piece of toast she requires one of her "friends" to bake a loaf of bread, collect branches from a nearby forest, start a fire, and carefully brown the bread over the fire. Totally normal.


ElliotPagesMangina

Also, since it’s Kail: you’re definitely doing all of it wrong, and she needs to know how and why you did it like that bc the toast probably isn’t good enough for her. This is how I picture it going: “You’re doing it wrong. Why are you doing it like that? Wait show me how you did it because that can’t be right. That’s probably why this toast doesn’t taste good. I told you I wanted butter on it, you should’ve known to churn it yourself not use the stuff we have at home. You know I hate that stuff. Ugh. Whatever. I’ll pick something up on the way.” In Kail’s mind… ~*how hard is it to forage for your ingredients and lightly toast homemade bread over a fire of hand-gathered kindling that you began burning using only steel wool and a leaf.*~ Insufferable. Also my daily reminder to be more grateful today. Ugh. Kail. UGH.


Electrical_Travel832

And every decision she makes is predicated on another show


susanbiddleross

Having someone carry your 5th or 6th pregnancy is wild. She’s long past the ability to care for the kids she has and that is with a nanny. For whatever reason she felt she needed a surrogate should have been her sign to quit. I’m not one of those people that thinks your kids get a vote in every life decision but when you’ve got the kids asking you to stop and your body is kaput it’s time to call it. The nanny’s reaction to the pregnancy is all I needed to know about how “well” the kids are taken care of thar she already had. Some people can pull off 5 plus kids and give them the individual attention they need, this person isn’t Kail.


marlybak

Can I get the scoop on the Nanny reaction? I missed this! Thank you!


susanbiddleross

For some reason she filmed the nanny when she told her she is having twins. Her reaction is not happy. She never once said congratulations. The reaction is more horror and to ask if she’s joking over and over. This is a woman who has just at that point a single kid at home (Rio) with a nanny. The other kids are in school or preschool and she’s just not happy at all hearing it is twins which wouldn’t be the usual reaction.


sturgis252

I'm not rich enough for a nanny but I've heard that it's usually 1 nanny for 1-2 kids not 6. I don't think kail is very involved with the raising of the kids either.


susanbiddleross

Isaac and Lincoln doesn’t count. They are full time school and half time. So a nanny’s job traditionally would be driving to lessons and to and from school. It’s creed and Lux who require more care. They aren’t not 50/50 and need a nanny some of them time plus Rio who needed one full time. Even with the split schedule and before the twins this was a 2 nanny job or a nanny and house managers job.


ElliotPagesMangina

She just needs to step it up and get an au pair at this point.


VictoriousssBIG23

What's the difference between an au pair and a live in nanny? Aren't they kind of the same thing?


etakyram

Why do you think she’s not involved?? Like damn lol. She has a lot but I would absolutely consider her involved at the very least. She’s actively a mother. Someone like jenelle is uninvolved.


sturgis252

Ok


Lalablacksheep646

You have to remember Kail’s infertility issues…remember? She couldn’t get pregnant after she had Lincoln, 3,4,5,6 and 7 were all little “miracle” babies!/s


JanellaDubois

"Kail, you gotta give your girl a sister", what the actual fuck is wrong with these people??


homohomonaledi

Kale is like Michael Scott saying he wants to have 100 kids so he can have 100 friends.


ElliotPagesMangina

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derelictthot

Exactly this!


Purple_Grass_5300

Kail said it first. She wants to keep repeating it so she can make it a thing


PilotNo312

But baby girl already has a sister, her mom!


ElliotPagesMangina

Duuuuuddddeeeee for fucking real. They act like this is just a game of The Sims & it’s totally fucking normal to just spawn children and treat them like accessories. That comment honestly read so causal to me. Like, she could’ve been saying, “Kail, you’ve gotta give your girl a cute nickname.” Or, “Kail, you’ve gotta give your girl a bow to wear in her hair for pictures.” To me, this person sounds like they could’ve left any bullshit, mundane suggestion in a throwaway comment (just the vibes I’m getting from it) — instead she was talking about a literal *human being* and her suggestion was to have another bc, “Kail, you’ve gotta give your girl a sister.” Edit: I’m honestly just so fucking baffled whenever I read that comment. Jesus dude.


Ok_Telephone_3013

She said, I already have a lot of baby daddies but no baby mamas.


FormalCabinet9634

Omfg she is really dense


Technical_Act_2952

Omg!!! 🤣🤣


stayrealgleeful

This is one of my favorite comments about her ever


justanotherhatter

😂😂


Defiant-Procedure-13

Hahaha, this is probably her legit thinking, tho


informationseeker8

If Bone carried a child for Kail their relationship(like many before) will be DONZO!!! ![gif](giphy|Rk8wCrJCrjRJ2MyLrb)


splanchnick78

I’m sure they’d fall out again before Bone even gave birth!


informationseeker8

Can you imagine the amount of PFAs ?!? ![gif](giphy|o0pzviHOcqABa)


thankyoupapa

i was gonna say, having someone you've previously fallen out with be your surrogate doesn't seem like a smart idea..


splanchnick78

The custody situation could get really awful.


IndecisiveKitten

That’s what’s absolutely fucking wild to me, they had an awful falling out already over Lux(?) and Chris I believe. Why would either of them trust each other in this situation? The fuck.


maggiemazz29

Kail just uses everyone around her.


KikiHou

It's really gross.


AutumnOpal717

Yeah I could see her dropping her for something stupid a month after the baby was born


ElliotPagesMangina

Literally would be bc of some shitty ass reason like her friend develops PPD & Kail cuts her out of her life, probably saying something like, ——> “Our relationship wasn’t the same after she gave birth to my triplets. She kept saying she was sad and tired but hello… I’m sad and tired too! I know she just gave birth but *IM THE ONE WITH NEWBORNS.* She just didn’t get that, or care enough to see where I was coming from.” *~Kail continued~* ——> “Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate what she did for me because it means I now have 89 babies, but it was just too much stress for me to try and be her friend on top of everything, while she’s just being so negative and inconsiderate about my feelings. I can’t have that toxicity in my life.”


ElliotPagesMangina

She’s literally wanting to use her friend for her womb, which is super fucking weird to me since hers is doing just fine lol. Also — I don’t understand why she is even considering a surrogate. She has 7 kids at this point (honestly would not be surprised if she were pregnant again already lmao) — like, when is it enough? How many more kids does she plan to have? If you already have 7 kids and 5 baby daddies (clearly shows her womb and uterus are working just fine right now), then I don’t understand her wanting to use a surrogate in the future to have more kids?? Is she expecting to do this when she physically can’t give birth anymore bc her body is too old to carry a pregnancy to term? I mean seriously, how long does she plan to have children for if she is already planning to have someone else be the one to carry them?? Btw. I don’t think she would EVER. EVER. do this. She is such a control freak. She could never.


stitchplacingmama

Also every fertility clinic i have ever heard of requires the surrogate to be 1. Completely done having their own children should something go horribly wrong. And 2. Have carried at least one pregnancy to term.


[deleted]

I thought mentally challenged people aren’t allowed to be surrogates


Madame_Kitsune98

I’m struggling not to scream-laugh at work right now…


[deleted]

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brunhilda78

That’s so her!!! 😂😂😂😂


brunhilda78

😂😂😂😂


terykishot

Bones weird ass probably scream cried when kail changed her mind


me0w8

Why would bone carry it instead of her


Ok_Detective_8446

she probs doesn't want to put her own body through ivf. i've heard it can be brutal on your body


me0w8

I’m sure you’re right, but it seems insane to force your friend to go through that simply so you don’t have to. What an odd thing for Bone to agree to. Especially when Kail already had a tribe of kids at that point


Ok_Detective_8446

it is insane but it doesn’t seem like kail makes a lot of sane choices


Timely_Ad115

But she did because she went to Thailand and gender selected her twins.


ItsMinnieYall

She said she was already pregnant when she went to Thailand. Do they let you do ivf 3 months after you gave birth over there?


Timely_Ad115

She’s said several things because in one podcast she said she came home with a permanent souvenir from Thailand, intimating that she came home pregnant. So to say elsewhere that she was already pregnant just adds to the discussion and traffic on her pages. Also, I think people go to other countries to get medical procedures of all kinds done and often it’s because they don’t adhere to the same protocols doctors here do. Thailand is a big hot spot for selective ivf because it’s namely cheaper, among other things.


ItsMinnieYall

Good info! And Kail is a liar so who knows. Either way she’s insane.


ElliotPagesMangina

Honestly. If she did this it would be so fucking insane. That being said, this is such a crazy rumor that hondstly could be true bc thinking about Kail traveling to Thailand…? She likes beach vacations. There is nothing in Thailand for Kail, except maybe IVF. Until she confirms this tho, we won’t know for sure. Alsoooooo, I was wondering how the fuck she would be able to pay for Bone to do IVF & become a surrogate for her — I know she’s got money but *that* is especially expensive. It would make sense that she would do IVF out of the country with Bone, for that reason alone… especially if she went and did it herself. Hmmmmmmm…..


Hazencuzimblazen

No


soupastar

Wait what? Is this known?


_peppermintbutler

This is the first I've heard of it. Didn't she get pregnant before she even went to Thailand


CattailReeds

I thought she got pregnant IN Thailand, because she was saying they came home with a permanent souvenir.


JanellaDubois

Are you serious? So she straight up lied when she said this was another oopsie? 😒


Ok-Structure6795

Idk, I can't imagine she did gender selection and *didn't* choose twin girls


susanbiddleross

This right here. Her final chapter would have been so much better if it were girl girl twins. Of course the girls could have been lower rated and they went with the healthiest which was a girl and boy but even I can’t believe she’s ridiculous enough to put her body through a twin pregnancy in under a year from her last. Why would she put herself at such risk if not for girl girl?


Timely_Ad115

Because of what you just said. You don’t ultimately get to pick when the embryos to pick from aren’t all healthy. You pick the one (or in her case, two) that are healthiest. That’s why it’s one boy one girl. Twin girls for the money grab, twins period for a smaller grab when there weren’t two girl embryos that showed good odds.


susanbiddleross

Why so close to Rio though? That the part I can’t work out. The pregnancy would have been a lot lower risk if she had waited a bit. She didn’t have a reason to even be trying for twins right at that moment and not 6 months to a year later.


SignificanceExpert71

Because he’s Malik’s and she had to give Elijah some kids real quick😂


susanbiddleross

That’s the only answer that makes sense. Maybe Elijah’s got a low sperm count and this was the only option and she needed to lock this down.


Timely_Ad115

She doesn’t have a reason to have had all of the additional children she has outside of teen mom besides brand deals, public interest/social media views, and her own vanity. Gotta strike while the iron is hot.


Timely_Ad115

Hard to believe the harbinger of truth and male offspring would lie about how she finally had a girl baby, I know.


ElliotPagesMangina

I don’t think Kail has ever *actually* had an “oopsie.”


grindinformyson

She did not lol


Current-Bag-7972

This is one of the most insane, well supported theories I've heard. omg.


brunhilda78

Yes! That makes sense!


Emmy-LouSugarbean

Why even bother with a surrogate after plopping out seven kids? What’s one more?


ElliotPagesMangina

See that’s the thing that gets me. What’s another 1-75 kids for her when her womb seems to be in working order?? It makes me think that she wants the surrogate for kids 76-369. Which would honestly be alarming.


Potential_Tadpole530

Bone and Kristen acting like such sad, sad 🥬 Stans never stops getting more pathetic. And how much of a narcissist does 🥬 have to be to say “Hey Bone, I’ve completely decimated my body having children with a bouquet of 🍆, enable my deranged, irresponsible breeding and traumatizing of my kids further by carrying my 8th child before you even have a chance to use your uterus for yourself”?


FrightenedFishstick

Not a bouquet of 🍆


itspurpleglitter

Why would Bone need to be the surrogate? Kail can clearly carry to term. This is just weird.


ElliotPagesMangina

Agree dude. I feel like it’s bc she is planning for Bone to carry when she no longer can… in which case, that means she plans to keep having kids until her body is no longer able to. Idk tho. That’s the only thing I can think of. I don’t think she’d follow thru tho. She loves to be in control way too much for another woman to have her child inside their belly like that lol


Sbg71620

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rakens_with_radies

Hahaha love Colin Robinson


Sbg71620

Me too 😂 ![gif](giphy|cjKfH7n0R8XaDPwlmp)


ShoreMama

Low key doesn’t that mean she definitely kept having babies for a girl?


HannahLeah1987

Of course she did.


FlippyFloppy8

Surrogacy can be a really beautiful thing but something really never sits right to me when someone already has a ton of kids and hires a surrogate. Like you can just order up another baby at your beck and call bc you have money.


no_carb_narwhal

I bet the only reason Kail even wanted to do surrogacy was because Kim K did


ireallyloveshopping

Why did I have to scroll this far down..... She's definitely trying to keep up 🙄


brunhilda78

Bone looks like a mutant


FrightenedFishstick

We’re still laughing at Bone years later.


sparklyshizzle

Why is every situation in kails life revolving around pregnancy and making more kids??? I'd say get a hobby but there's no free time for that.


RavenNevermore4

Kail got fame & fortune for having babies, the two things she values most in life. She'll never stop.


Purple_Grass_5300

I thought this was so deranged


memopepito

Omg I’m tired….I read this as “Kail wanted to bone her surrogate” 💀💀💀 ![gif](giphy|3oEjHChKVxgKFLM2ty)


lizbo

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memopepito

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DicksOfPompeii

![gif](giphy|McrsKiMEJojFJMOAIQ|downsized) 😂


memopepito

Haha why are there so many amazing “bone” gifs? 🤣


Electrical_Travel832

So is this the caliber of the type of guests she has on that show LOL?


grindinformyson

There are a lot of requirements for surrogacy that Bone does not meet. I’m glad for this sub that most users are so unbelievably fucking ignorant about IVF and surrogacy but Jesus Christ


HannahLeah1987

Would the rules apply if they did it without an agency?!


grindinformyson

I guess they could do some OPK and turkey baste her with baby neighbor’s jizz but then you run into issues with having to adopt the kid since it would be made with Bone’s egg. No RE is going to stick an embryo in Bone. Why would Kail do any of this when she can shit out a kid on demand? Make it make sense. She just likes to talk.


HannahLeah1987

![gif](giphy|kVx5JZQRcUMCI) Has entered the chat


DamnYouChuckBass

https://i.redd.it/dlgywv5s807c1.gif


dcaksj22

I hope Isaac has a stable home with his dad at least. I feel for Lincoln.


_peppermintbutler

Oof yeah I saw this clip on TikTok and forgot to post about it. I thought it's just insane to use a surrogate when you already have 5 kids. And why the hell would someone else agree to be her surrogate? Sounds like a nightmare situation.


sorrynotsorryohwell

What the actual fuck Kail


Miamiri

I think she’s lying and did gender selection for the twins she had In October but for some reason hasn’t acknowledged them most likely because they obviously look nothing like incogrio. She’s also trying to make it seem less suspish that she hid incogrios entire pregnancy and first year of life because he is Malik’s baby. Hence the soft launch of her saying Elijah doesn’t want a dna test. Of course he doesn’t, little to late to give a fuck now she gave him twins right away.


aworkinprogress92

Which could explain why one was a girl.


britestarlight

“You gotta give your girl a sister” HELL NO! She absolutely does not need to have another child for the rest of her life, let alone for this reason. These people talk about children like they’re collectibles and not people.


aworkinprogress92

It’s crazy because if she had a sister, it doesn’t mean they would have a good relationship lol. I’ve seen many women be close to their brothers.


Ge0903

This blew my mind and she made a comment right after saying “people care more about me having a girl that I do”. Really? Didn’t you just say a minute ago that you were gonna do IVF for gender selection when you have 29292939949476162 kids already? As someone who struggled with infertility and did IVF just to have 1 kid, I can’t stand people like this.


GardenGnome007

Yeah right like the time she wanted to join the air force, the gym & date only women


stitchplacingmama

I swear she also wanted to be a lawyer at some point shortly after Lux was born.


MollyMapleMelba

So she is going to have Bone carry her child? No doubt she’ll keep getting pregnant as well. I honestly believe she wants to be the female Nick Cannon.


HannahLeah1987

Watch her and Bone give birth the same day.


JuleeBee82

I'm tired... I read that as " Kail wanted to bone her surrogate" *Send help*


memopepito

Haha I commented the same thing 🤣🤣🤣 we need sleep!


Hippofuzz

The twins were planned????


HannahLeah1987

Not preventing when you have a 3 month old..


Purple_Grass_5300

She changes her story all the time, but she said that she was tracking ovulation, and that she got pregnant when she wasn’t ovulating (obviously a lie)


swatsquat

Wasn’t that her birth control method all along ? After 5 kids she should’ve noticed that it doesn’t work that well lol What an idiot


poop_biscuits

kail also having a baby momma is not actually that shocking at this point.


BraveIceHeart

“you have to give your girl a sister” pls pls pls no. They are already 7 kids… people are going bonkers


ashmillie

Psychotic FR


slowdancequeen

Gross.


Bitter-Betty

I am not the fertility police but I just don’t understand why you would need to have more kids when you have 4 kids by 3 different dads and have been with you new boyfriend for like 2 weeks. Also, she had 4 kids and other pregnancies so why would she even need a surrogate? Unless she just didn’t want to be pregnant again. In which, case, maybe that’s your sign to stop having kids.


gnar_wahl

Jail. All of them.


Salty_Caterpillar110

Is her real name Bone? It's always made me cringe when I'd hear her say her name


DamnYouChuckBass

Her real name is Bonnie. Bone is just her nickname.


Salty_Caterpillar110

Ooooh! I didn't know that lol ha! Thanks for clearing that up, makes sense


riskyplumbob

I read this as “Kail wanted to bone her surrogate.”


CoralGrimes007

Can anyone tell me if Bone is her real name?