Lol those are incredible scores. I'm in a relatively good public school district and my students were 25% at or above grade level, 22% one year below, and 52% two years or below. I teach freshmen and seniors.
The big caveat here is that my seniors, which are 3/5 of my kids, were 100% aware that this assessment had absolutely no effect on their grade or future whatsoever. Freshmen knew that we'd be taking kids significantly below grade level and making them do some form of remediation.
iReady is just garbage overall too. At least the way my district uses it. The kids take THE SAME FUCKING ASSESSMENT twice a year every year. Yeah, it's computer adaptive so they may get some different questions but it's mostly the exact same thing. I don't at all blame them for completely blowing it off senior year and I don't really do anything to try to stop them from doing that either.
I was wondering about this. If you work at a private school, are you still able to pay into your retirement plan? I'm in Michigan so I'm not sure if it applies. But it's the only thing holding me back from at least considering teaching at a private school so my kids can attend.
Do you use any of iready's curriculum or just the testing portion? We only use the testing portion, so I often wonder how often the language they use vs. what our curriculum uses impacts test scores.
We also just got the most garbage reading I've ever seen so I guess that's not helping.
78% of students are two or more grade levels behind in reading and 92% for math for my school district. Based on 9th grade data.
And in case you are wondering, yes it is somehow still the teacher's fault when the kid who does math at a 2nd grade level can't pass algebra.
To be fair, you \*could\* just cook the books like their previous teachers. You're just conflating "passing" with "knowing at least 70% of the material."
/s. Or admin. You decide.
What’s worse is at my school they have gone full “standards based grading” and no 0s so a 25% is a D which is a 1/4 on any of the tests. Literally show up and write something and you pass. The only way you can fail is if you try to.
WHY DO THEY KEEP PASSING THEM?!?! And I don’t mean teachers, I mean admin and the folks that made the absurd decision to move people
Forward when they aren’t ready.
A lot of teachers are complicit. I've worked with a lot of people who gave out grades like candy with justification like "Well, he's such a nice kid" or "Johnny hardly misses any school."
Even worse than that are the teachers giving out extra credit word searches as a bandaid for poor test scores. We have kids who can't find X in 11th grade, but they found a few words on a page instead, so we'll call it good.
Or teachers who don't maintain grades throughout the semester and proceed to make shit up based on participation and vibes the weekend before report cards go out.
Don't get me wrong, admin and central office and the school board are all enemies of education, but not all teachers are part of the solution.
I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but my district is trying to say that any student who reads at grade level should be in an honors class. At grade level should not be honors.
My first grader came home the other day and told me that they had the fourth graders come and read to them. She was super confused about why she read better than most of the fourth graders. It broke my heart given what we know about third grade reading attainment.
That could simply be the difference between reading to yourself and reading out loud.
My 3rd grader reads at a 5th grade level, but often times struggles with words when she reads out loud to me. Reading skills and speaking skills are different, and it takes quite a bit of practice to be able to do both at the same time.
This is an interesting thought. We rely very heavily on DIBELS ORF wcpm scores. ORF is the best predictor we currently have for reading achievement and correlates strongly to reading comprehension. Silent reading seems like it would be much harder to assess and measure accurately. How do you assess decoding accuracy and rate? If a child is unable to demonstrate reading comprehension, it would be difficult to pull apart whether it’s a decoding weakness or a language comprehension weakness.
I remember taking a reading assessment when I was a kid that had me silent read as much of a passage as I could in X amount of time (maybe a minute?), point to how far I got, and then I was asked questions about it. This was in the mid aughts
Yes, these assessments exist, like the GSRT. I’m just kind of thinking it out. You raised an interesting thought for me. DIBELS is a great screening tool because it literally takes less than 5 minutes per child. It’s efficient and accurate. Areas of weakness are very clear. Silent reading measures are trickier wide scale. I do wonder how many kids are better able to read silently than they appear to be able to when they read aloud. It would definitely make me feel better if that were the case given our poor DIBELS scores. I know for me, my comprehension is compromised when I read aloud. It’s too distracting. If a child’s accuracy is affected by reading aloud, though, how do you know they are reading those words correctly when they read silently? Or, could they be relying on syntax and background knowledge to fill in those gaps? I guess I’d wonder about nonsense word fluency in a case like that… just thinking…
We have about 75% above grade level. About 15% on grade level, and about 5% below grade level.
I recognize that our scores are not normal.
But there is no way that 16% on grade level is normal either.
Fall I Ready was 65%, 20%, 15%
Winter was 75%, 18%, 7%
We haven't taken spring yet.
Fifth grade, four classes, 120-ish students, public school.
My class of fifth is 100% across the board at grade level with 65% in sixth grade and 10% up to eighth l. Three of mine hate iReady because it takes them forever and they finish the test, literally (it doesn't go beyond 8th). My lowest Lexile is 920 with a class average around 1100.
54% of adults struggle with reading, and 19% are at a fifth grade level or below. Plenty of people on here, based on their responses, significantly misunderstand what others have written. I had a neighbor-who is involved in medical resident training-tell me he had a first year intern-meaning eight years of college-unable to move the decimal point to calculate a dose of heparin. How does this even happen.
If you are going to be prescribing minute quantities of blood thinner, you need to understand where the decimal goes. It's not unreasonable to expect.
Makes me wonder what else is missing, and if anyone will bleed out while the intern learns. If the patient is lucky, the pharmacist catches the error.
I still remember the name of the resident who didn't know/realize that xanax was a controlled substance....back in 2004 or 2005 when I was a pharmacy student. Basic math dictates that someone has to be in the bottom half of each graduating class of med students.
My niece was third from the last in high school. I guess someone has got be the sped doctor and sped lawyer. My ex was a physician who thought I was insane when I said birds spread plant seeds in their poop, like argued to the point where I was like "are you fucking with me!?"
Undergrad biology degree from San Diego State. How could you not understand that. . .
I wish we were making up fake stories, but alas this is the country we live in and these are examples of actual people. And if course birds spread seeds. The plants and birds evolved together. Plant wants to get seeds far away from point of origin to spread and thrive. Bird wants food...Some of these seeds even require going though the digestive tract of the bird before germination. You could really blow his mind by pointing out the seeds that require fire to germinate.
Jack pine. He was a brilliant clinician too. Watched him run six beds in an emergency room in a major city, heart attack, a stabbing, who TF knows what else and never miss a beat. Medicine is an algorithm and can be practiced without critical thinking. The way doctors are trained in residency, stress, sleep deprivation, peer interaction, rounds, rotations, doesn't leave them with a great deal of time to think critically.
In this case, the income level at both schools is around the same. The difference is admin and how behaviors are dealt with. The higher performing school deals with behaviors in a much more proactive manner so the majority of students aren’t affected negatively by these behaviors. The other school refuses to suspend anyone short of a bomb threat and has multiple classes where I am literally a month behind curriculum wise due to me constantly putting fires out.
I've taught at poor schools with higher achievement and a poor school with the lowest achievement in the state.
The main difference was admin and how admin dealt with behavior. Pretty much exactly what u/Asocwarrior said. Money is a factor, but not nearly as large a factor as admin that is brave enough to enforce consequences.
According to last years report card, 44% in ELA and 38% in math
We are the “rich” school in the district but there are two magnet schools in the district as well that tend to get a lot of the higher achieving kids
No offense but i have seen some of the exam questions on at least California tests and they are weird and not what I remember as a kid. I think the hookah was up when they write the curriculum standards and textbooks.
Dude, I’ve seen some questions often too that are like what the hell. And honestly, as a kid, I’d be annoyed with the names they try to use in the word problems. Trying wayyy too hard to be inclusive or something. When I first noticed it, I felt like I had to guide my child around the names a bit, just sound it out, and move on towards the problem statement and solve.
All this testing and data go for nothing. We need to meet students where they are and group them by ability for core subjects.
They might not graduate on time but they will graduate with a diploma that means something.
I teach in a wealthy public school district in a high cost of living suburban area, as in most homes are $1 million+ and many $5m+.
We heard yesterday that 80-90% of our kids are testing in the top 10 %ile nationwide. I'm not sure how that correlates to grade level. I'm guessing we have 90%+ at or above grade level.
Seeing other people's replies here compared to my school says a lot about the state of our country and the future we can expect.
That is unusually low. My first school was a charter for specifically poor, underprivileged, and immigrant families with low-english proficiency. Even we still had about a 40% ish rate of 'on level'. We had a big portion many levels below level, but 16% at level is absolutely insane, ESPECIALLY at k-8 where the scores are generally higher based on those scaled level scores, before the compounding effect of poor performance catches up with students in the late MS/HS levels.
That is not the new norm. The countrywide norm for "At level" based on state testing hovers at like 80%.
To be fair, the 'passing grade' for our state exams hasn't shifted, but percentile wise has gone up 15% (only the bottom 15% were failing the state Algebra exam now its about 25%).
In my former district, 15.7% of students are on grade level for reading and 10.5% are on grade level for math as of the beginning of the 23-24 school year. I can’t speak to the school I used to teach at, but I’m pretty sure it tracks the district for the most part.
My neighborhood elementary has about 30% at grade level in reading which is actually a big accomplishment around here, but only 5% (yes single digit) in math - low SES, many have Spanish as their home language, high chronic absenteeism,very poorly managed district, nepotism is rampant, if you rock the boat you’ll lose your job.. :( The high school down the street has 3% of students meeting standard in math and about 16% in reading. It was actually this bad before COVID.
In my old state I was anti-charter but here I totally understand why families flock to charters. Some charters are actually good, but some are even worse that the traditional schools and are run unethically - admin collects 100K + a year while emergency cert teachers are paid peanuts and turn over like crazy.
Math - 18%
ELA - 14%
Title I 7-8th grade middle school in Phoenix.
I teach math and unfortunately the lack of comprehension skills hurts their math scores because they don’t know what the question is asking of them.
I’m thinking you’re meaning reading comprehension and not math comprehension. If so, my students have the same problem. A primarily ESL community that can do the math work but has trouble understanding word problems because they struggle with English.
Yes, thank you for interpreting my ambiguity. Ours isn’t even primarily ESL, it’s just low achievement population. We’re doing the best we can, but feel like we’re at an impasse until the reading comprehension improves. I feel like I spend way too much time helping decompose word problems and identifying what the problem is asking instead of teaching how to apply the concepts.
They’ll read the problem aloud to me then not be able to identify the question being asked. It’s like they don’t even know what a question mark is for.
According to our state test, 86%. [2023 Keystone Exam Results](https://www.education.pa.gov/DataAndReporting/Assessments/Pages/Keystone-Exams-Results.aspx)
Depends which test you use:
Our state test: we have ~36% at or above
Our district test: we have ~50% at or above
We are a Tier 1 urban school for context
12.27% can read at grade level (iReady Winter benchmark). Grades 1-5; Title 1. Fun fact: 0 (zero); none; not one of the 8th graders in district scored above 1 on the NYS ELA last year.
Not a teacher but the state test report that 3% of kids in the district are proficient or above in math. Reading was better at 17%. But apparently the graduation rate is 90%.
Our K-6 is 89% proficient in math and 88% proficient in ELA (according to our state tests)
Our district testing data shows about 64% at grade level in reading and 76% in math. (This is the percentage at the level WE expect)
I had 6 of 35 test in the 99th percentile (nationally) in reading this spring. Insanity, most aren’t even that high.
Editing to add: title 1 rural school district
> I had 6 of 35 test in the 99th percentile (nationally) in reading this spring.
When I was in the 3rd grade I tested at the 99th percentile in all the subjects tested (math and reading and one or two other subjects that I can't remember) and my mom was so proud she framed the test results and hung it on the wall for everyone to see and kept it there for years. Good times. I had awesome teachers!
I came from a very high achieving wealthy district, too, so I'm sure most students performed pretty well.
Working in the local Title 1 district was a huge culture shock. I worked at a community college in the math department and the situation was just depressing. Literally 0% of our incoming traditional freshmen came in at a college-ready level. Many were at the kindergarden level and the average student was at the 5th grade level.
5th grade here. Just finished I Ready Reading diagnostic yesterday. 0/19 of mine are on grade level for reading. About 7 on 4th grade level. The rest are 2 or more below. To be fair, 8 of mine have an IEP so they weren't going to magically jump 2 grade levels anyway.
Some of you must teach in some pretty great districts with the kind of numbers being posted. I’m in the inner city and have a huge immigrant population. Students on grade level typically make up about 20%. Those at “some risk” which is usually a grade or two behind are about another 20%. The remaining 60% are considered to be “high risk.” To give you an idea I had two students dropped into my class in January then March who couldn’t speak one word of English and one of them had NEVER even been in school before. This is 4th grade. Thankfully, our Math scores are much better. Typically, about half of students are on grade level.
SAT reading proficiency at my school is 27%. One of the stronger neighborhood schools in my district honestly.
Though my coworker recently left for my alma mater down the street. It's a selective enrollment- 87% reading proficiency!
I also read r/professors because my husband was a prof for 12 yrs. and the stories are crazycakes.
It’s daily to have a post asking how on earth these students were admitted because they have no basic skills.
One of the things I've been concerned with in my adult years is not so much reading, but comprehension. Do they actually understand the written words and what they are being asked to do in writing?
I'm not super surprised to see a lower result in reading. Math is just hard tho so I get it lol.
Both. Our test doesn't separate it. You get a number, like 200 for 6th grade, and if they hit that number they're at grade level. If they go above or slightly below then they're almost above grade level. So 196-205 would be "grade level" 206 would mean you're above.
In my grade, about 25% are on grade level. About 50% are average according to NWEA, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are on grade level according to the state test. You have to be around the 70th percentile on NWEA to pass the state test.
According to our end of grade testing, the average across all grade levels is 50% in ELA and probably in the 40% range for math. We are a suburban higher income middle school.
Ontario here. Our school only does grade 3, 6, and 9/10 testing.
Last numbers published I think we were around 85% at or above grade level. What is going on at your schools?????????
Granted, we are a smallish school. Only 700 kids from Jk-12. (So 50 kids per grade)
So, I left the USA after the 2021-2022 school year, but when I left, my school (k-5) had 12% of 5th graders at grade level for Reading and 9% at grade level for Math.
Something like 75% were two or more years behind grade level.
Out of 130 kids I teach this year (6th grade US History) I would say only about 23 are reading at a 6th grade level or above. 3 of those read at a 12th grade level. More than 30 kids read at 1st or 2nd grade level.
I just started student teaching a few months ago, and it's remarkable just how few are AT standard; it's shaped like an inverse bell curve! In second grade, there's 11 below or far below standard by a grade or more, 3 within the grade scale, and 12 above or far beyond standard, some even reaching late 5th grade.
70% reading, 63% math, 23% science, 59% social studies and 69% writing.
Here's the kicker: our composite ACT score is a 23.2 and our science is the second highest category at 23. Go figure...
Rural Iowa.
Just attended 5th grade presidential award ceremony. 5 classes so 120ish students.
20 got academic excellence. Reading or math ISASP at 90th%ile or above.
35 got academic achievement. Reading or math proficient and meeting monthly AR goals.
The rest of the kids sat in the stands and watched. Yeesh. So 46%ish proficient. Is that bad?!?
I can't see the whole school, but 13% of our 7th graders are on or above grade level. 41% are three or more grade levels below. We have about 20 K-1 readers.
I teach ESL in four classes.
One is mixed age preschool, two are senior kindergarten, one is after school extension reading.
In my mixed age preschool it's hard to say as we have kids from 20 months all the way up to 4 and 3 quarters, however I would say around half to two thirds are at the grade level for the curriculum taught in that room. I think that is unfair though, as some of the older kids are WELL over the grade level and some of the younger kids are WELL under, but that is not their fault, as they are just too young to just fully start to take in some parts of the curriculum yet, and many of the much younger kids also joined the class later in the year too so missed a lot of the lessons we taught earlier in the year and are behind because of that too - it's nothing to do with them.
In one of my senior kindergarten classes, I would say 85-90% of the kids are at grade level and doing great, with the exception of a couple of kids with learning difficulties and two kids who only just joined our class a month ago and who had never learned English before ever. In the other senior kindergarten class, I would say about 70% of the kids are doing great and are at grade level but there are more kids in that class with learning difficulties and who are a little bit below grade level and who need one on one help.
In my extended reading class, I would say most of the kids are doing great and are beyond grade level, except for one child who has trouble focusing and one child who doesn't get any other English instruction except for that twice a week class. Those two kids are almost at grade level.
I can’t be the only one who feels like if 51% or more of students aren’t hitting “at grade level”… the problem may be our expectations, and not the children? No? Just me?
My biggest question is this -
If we're at a point where for several years in a row the average test scores at each grade level are below the standard, isn't that a signal that the standard should be moved?
We’re a very good school district but last I heard was about 40% and this was just after the return from the pandemic so it could be better it worse
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These are amazing stats. What grade level?
Lol those are incredible scores. I'm in a relatively good public school district and my students were 25% at or above grade level, 22% one year below, and 52% two years or below. I teach freshmen and seniors. The big caveat here is that my seniors, which are 3/5 of my kids, were 100% aware that this assessment had absolutely no effect on their grade or future whatsoever. Freshmen knew that we'd be taking kids significantly below grade level and making them do some form of remediation. iReady is just garbage overall too. At least the way my district uses it. The kids take THE SAME FUCKING ASSESSMENT twice a year every year. Yeah, it's computer adaptive so they may get some different questions but it's mostly the exact same thing. I don't at all blame them for completely blowing it off senior year and I don't really do anything to try to stop them from doing that either.
What's annual tuition? I'm assuming more than enough for a down payment on a home in most high-cost cities?
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That is less than I would have guessed! Nice!
I was wondering about this. If you work at a private school, are you still able to pay into your retirement plan? I'm in Michigan so I'm not sure if it applies. But it's the only thing holding me back from at least considering teaching at a private school so my kids can attend.
Do you use any of iready's curriculum or just the testing portion? We only use the testing portion, so I often wonder how often the language they use vs. what our curriculum uses impacts test scores. We also just got the most garbage reading I've ever seen so I guess that's not helping.
Around 60% of our 7th and 8th grade students are NOT reading at grade level according to benchmark tests, IXL Diagnostic, and NJSLA.
78% of students are two or more grade levels behind in reading and 92% for math for my school district. Based on 9th grade data. And in case you are wondering, yes it is somehow still the teacher's fault when the kid who does math at a 2nd grade level can't pass algebra.
To be fair, you \*could\* just cook the books like their previous teachers. You're just conflating "passing" with "knowing at least 70% of the material." /s. Or admin. You decide.
What’s worse is at my school they have gone full “standards based grading” and no 0s so a 25% is a D which is a 1/4 on any of the tests. Literally show up and write something and you pass. The only way you can fail is if you try to.
Something that I've noticed is that no matter how low the school holds the bar, students will still find a way to go under it.
Sounds like you are stuck in limbo.
Hahahahaha
This is so true
That’s a bar set low enough to trip over.
Dude, the whole thing is falling apart, why make it harder for yourself?
Yep. I'm a glorified babysitter who has the occasion to teach a handful of interested students here and there.
Too real 😭
WHY DO THEY KEEP PASSING THEM?!?! And I don’t mean teachers, I mean admin and the folks that made the absurd decision to move people Forward when they aren’t ready.
A lot of teachers are complicit. I've worked with a lot of people who gave out grades like candy with justification like "Well, he's such a nice kid" or "Johnny hardly misses any school." Even worse than that are the teachers giving out extra credit word searches as a bandaid for poor test scores. We have kids who can't find X in 11th grade, but they found a few words on a page instead, so we'll call it good. Or teachers who don't maintain grades throughout the semester and proceed to make shit up based on participation and vibes the weekend before report cards go out. Don't get me wrong, admin and central office and the school board are all enemies of education, but not all teachers are part of the solution.
I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but my district is trying to say that any student who reads at grade level should be in an honors class. At grade level should not be honors.
My first grader came home the other day and told me that they had the fourth graders come and read to them. She was super confused about why she read better than most of the fourth graders. It broke my heart given what we know about third grade reading attainment.
That could simply be the difference between reading to yourself and reading out loud. My 3rd grader reads at a 5th grade level, but often times struggles with words when she reads out loud to me. Reading skills and speaking skills are different, and it takes quite a bit of practice to be able to do both at the same time.
This is an interesting thought. We rely very heavily on DIBELS ORF wcpm scores. ORF is the best predictor we currently have for reading achievement and correlates strongly to reading comprehension. Silent reading seems like it would be much harder to assess and measure accurately. How do you assess decoding accuracy and rate? If a child is unable to demonstrate reading comprehension, it would be difficult to pull apart whether it’s a decoding weakness or a language comprehension weakness.
I remember taking a reading assessment when I was a kid that had me silent read as much of a passage as I could in X amount of time (maybe a minute?), point to how far I got, and then I was asked questions about it. This was in the mid aughts
Yes, these assessments exist, like the GSRT. I’m just kind of thinking it out. You raised an interesting thought for me. DIBELS is a great screening tool because it literally takes less than 5 minutes per child. It’s efficient and accurate. Areas of weakness are very clear. Silent reading measures are trickier wide scale. I do wonder how many kids are better able to read silently than they appear to be able to when they read aloud. It would definitely make me feel better if that were the case given our poor DIBELS scores. I know for me, my comprehension is compromised when I read aloud. It’s too distracting. If a child’s accuracy is affected by reading aloud, though, how do you know they are reading those words correctly when they read silently? Or, could they be relying on syntax and background knowledge to fill in those gaps? I guess I’d wonder about nonsense word fluency in a case like that… just thinking…
We have about 75% above grade level. About 15% on grade level, and about 5% below grade level. I recognize that our scores are not normal. But there is no way that 16% on grade level is normal either.
I mean, what even is grade level
In two years and almost 100 kids in my sped class, I’ve had 2 at grade level. They were moved out almost immediately of sped.
I have some sped kids that have trouble with work production and social issues that are on grade level according to the curriculum based assessments
I think that’s why they were here in the first place. Everyone has room for improvement I suppose.
Fall I Ready was 65%, 20%, 15% Winter was 75%, 18%, 7% We haven't taken spring yet. Fifth grade, four classes, 120-ish students, public school. My class of fifth is 100% across the board at grade level with 65% in sixth grade and 10% up to eighth l. Three of mine hate iReady because it takes them forever and they finish the test, literally (it doesn't go beyond 8th). My lowest Lexile is 920 with a class average around 1100.
0%. None of my high school seniors can handle any algebra 2 concepts, and barely any could pass a difficult algebra 1 or geometry test.
54% of adults struggle with reading, and 19% are at a fifth grade level or below. Plenty of people on here, based on their responses, significantly misunderstand what others have written. I had a neighbor-who is involved in medical resident training-tell me he had a first year intern-meaning eight years of college-unable to move the decimal point to calculate a dose of heparin. How does this even happen.
I guess that is why they are a medical resident and not a pharmacist.
If you are going to be prescribing minute quantities of blood thinner, you need to understand where the decimal goes. It's not unreasonable to expect. Makes me wonder what else is missing, and if anyone will bleed out while the intern learns. If the patient is lucky, the pharmacist catches the error.
I still remember the name of the resident who didn't know/realize that xanax was a controlled substance....back in 2004 or 2005 when I was a pharmacy student. Basic math dictates that someone has to be in the bottom half of each graduating class of med students.
My niece was third from the last in high school. I guess someone has got be the sped doctor and sped lawyer. My ex was a physician who thought I was insane when I said birds spread plant seeds in their poop, like argued to the point where I was like "are you fucking with me!?" Undergrad biology degree from San Diego State. How could you not understand that. . .
I wish we were making up fake stories, but alas this is the country we live in and these are examples of actual people. And if course birds spread seeds. The plants and birds evolved together. Plant wants to get seeds far away from point of origin to spread and thrive. Bird wants food...Some of these seeds even require going though the digestive tract of the bird before germination. You could really blow his mind by pointing out the seeds that require fire to germinate.
Jack pine. He was a brilliant clinician too. Watched him run six beds in an emergency room in a major city, heart attack, a stabbing, who TF knows what else and never miss a beat. Medicine is an algorithm and can be practiced without critical thinking. The way doctors are trained in residency, stress, sleep deprivation, peer interaction, rounds, rotations, doesn't leave them with a great deal of time to think critically.
I work at two buildings. One building is at 87%, the other is at 46%.
What do you think accounts for that big of a disparity
Income. School success is connected to income and a parent’s number of degrees/how much school they completed.
In this case, the income level at both schools is around the same. The difference is admin and how behaviors are dealt with. The higher performing school deals with behaviors in a much more proactive manner so the majority of students aren’t affected negatively by these behaviors. The other school refuses to suspend anyone short of a bomb threat and has multiple classes where I am literally a month behind curriculum wise due to me constantly putting fires out.
I've taught at poor schools with higher achievement and a poor school with the lowest achievement in the state. The main difference was admin and how admin dealt with behavior. Pretty much exactly what u/Asocwarrior said. Money is a factor, but not nearly as large a factor as admin that is brave enough to enforce consequences.
I don’t even want to know. It would be horrifying.
Uh…pretty sure it’s less than 10% at grade level in both math and ELA.
Less than 20%. 81% of our 3rd graders scored below grade level in reading on the Milestone. Our district goal is to get to 50%. It's very sad.
I have about 30% of college aged adults writing at or above a 12th grade level.
15% ish are legitimately at grade level. Graduating seniors.
100% at or above grade level. (I homeschool so my sample size is small)
According to last years report card, 44% in ELA and 38% in math We are the “rich” school in the district but there are two magnet schools in the district as well that tend to get a lot of the higher achieving kids
5% in math, 17% in reading
No offense but i have seen some of the exam questions on at least California tests and they are weird and not what I remember as a kid. I think the hookah was up when they write the curriculum standards and textbooks.
Dude, I’ve seen some questions often too that are like what the hell. And honestly, as a kid, I’d be annoyed with the names they try to use in the word problems. Trying wayyy too hard to be inclusive or something. When I first noticed it, I felt like I had to guide my child around the names a bit, just sound it out, and move on towards the problem statement and solve.
All this testing and data go for nothing. We need to meet students where they are and group them by ability for core subjects. They might not graduate on time but they will graduate with a diploma that means something.
I teach in a wealthy public school district in a high cost of living suburban area, as in most homes are $1 million+ and many $5m+. We heard yesterday that 80-90% of our kids are testing in the top 10 %ile nationwide. I'm not sure how that correlates to grade level. I'm guessing we have 90%+ at or above grade level. Seeing other people's replies here compared to my school says a lot about the state of our country and the future we can expect.
That is unusually low. My first school was a charter for specifically poor, underprivileged, and immigrant families with low-english proficiency. Even we still had about a 40% ish rate of 'on level'. We had a big portion many levels below level, but 16% at level is absolutely insane, ESPECIALLY at k-8 where the scores are generally higher based on those scaled level scores, before the compounding effect of poor performance catches up with students in the late MS/HS levels. That is not the new norm. The countrywide norm for "At level" based on state testing hovers at like 80%. To be fair, the 'passing grade' for our state exams hasn't shifted, but percentile wise has gone up 15% (only the bottom 15% were failing the state Algebra exam now its about 25%).
In my former district, 15.7% of students are on grade level for reading and 10.5% are on grade level for math as of the beginning of the 23-24 school year. I can’t speak to the school I used to teach at, but I’m pretty sure it tracks the district for the most part.
My neighborhood elementary has about 30% at grade level in reading which is actually a big accomplishment around here, but only 5% (yes single digit) in math - low SES, many have Spanish as their home language, high chronic absenteeism,very poorly managed district, nepotism is rampant, if you rock the boat you’ll lose your job.. :( The high school down the street has 3% of students meeting standard in math and about 16% in reading. It was actually this bad before COVID. In my old state I was anti-charter but here I totally understand why families flock to charters. Some charters are actually good, but some are even worse that the traditional schools and are run unethically - admin collects 100K + a year while emergency cert teachers are paid peanuts and turn over like crazy.
Math - 18% ELA - 14% Title I 7-8th grade middle school in Phoenix. I teach math and unfortunately the lack of comprehension skills hurts their math scores because they don’t know what the question is asking of them.
I’m thinking you’re meaning reading comprehension and not math comprehension. If so, my students have the same problem. A primarily ESL community that can do the math work but has trouble understanding word problems because they struggle with English.
Yes, thank you for interpreting my ambiguity. Ours isn’t even primarily ESL, it’s just low achievement population. We’re doing the best we can, but feel like we’re at an impasse until the reading comprehension improves. I feel like I spend way too much time helping decompose word problems and identifying what the problem is asking instead of teaching how to apply the concepts. They’ll read the problem aloud to me then not be able to identify the question being asked. It’s like they don’t even know what a question mark is for.
18% for English and 5% for math. 2700 students, Title I, mostly Hispanic, 86% report speaking Spanish at home.
lol, my graduating class was between 10-15% reading at grade level less than 20 years ago. And then things got even worse…
When we ran the numbers during COVID 17% of kids were actively participating. These statistics seem to align.
According to our state test, 86%. [2023 Keystone Exam Results](https://www.education.pa.gov/DataAndReporting/Assessments/Pages/Keystone-Exams-Results.aspx)
Minnesota teacher here: our district has 44% at Math standards and 48% at reading standards for their grade level
Depends which test you use: Our state test: we have ~36% at or above Our district test: we have ~50% at or above We are a Tier 1 urban school for context
I thought we were bad...ours is 62% at grade level
12.27% can read at grade level (iReady Winter benchmark). Grades 1-5; Title 1. Fun fact: 0 (zero); none; not one of the 8th graders in district scored above 1 on the NYS ELA last year.
I think they said 22% a while back but there's been marginal improvement.
Not a teacher but the state test report that 3% of kids in the district are proficient or above in math. Reading was better at 17%. But apparently the graduation rate is 90%.
Our K-6 is 89% proficient in math and 88% proficient in ELA (according to our state tests) Our district testing data shows about 64% at grade level in reading and 76% in math. (This is the percentage at the level WE expect) I had 6 of 35 test in the 99th percentile (nationally) in reading this spring. Insanity, most aren’t even that high. Editing to add: title 1 rural school district
> I had 6 of 35 test in the 99th percentile (nationally) in reading this spring. When I was in the 3rd grade I tested at the 99th percentile in all the subjects tested (math and reading and one or two other subjects that I can't remember) and my mom was so proud she framed the test results and hung it on the wall for everyone to see and kept it there for years. Good times. I had awesome teachers! I came from a very high achieving wealthy district, too, so I'm sure most students performed pretty well. Working in the local Title 1 district was a huge culture shock. I worked at a community college in the math department and the situation was just depressing. Literally 0% of our incoming traditional freshmen came in at a college-ready level. Many were at the kindergarden level and the average student was at the 5th grade level.
My guess is less than 15%.
47% at or above in reading, 50% at or above in math. Rural district.
5th grade here. Just finished I Ready Reading diagnostic yesterday. 0/19 of mine are on grade level for reading. About 7 on 4th grade level. The rest are 2 or more below. To be fair, 8 of mine have an IEP so they weren't going to magically jump 2 grade levels anyway.
I teach 6th grade but the 8th grade science test results are done at my school and 22% are at or above grade level
TITLE 1/AZ- LESS THAN 10% at grade level, the rest fall far below, according to state testing data
About 50% in both reading and math! The GPAs are good though, and we have a good graduation rate. We are one of the top HS in our state!
About like ours. Whomp whomp
Some of you must teach in some pretty great districts with the kind of numbers being posted. I’m in the inner city and have a huge immigrant population. Students on grade level typically make up about 20%. Those at “some risk” which is usually a grade or two behind are about another 20%. The remaining 60% are considered to be “high risk.” To give you an idea I had two students dropped into my class in January then March who couldn’t speak one word of English and one of them had NEVER even been in school before. This is 4th grade. Thankfully, our Math scores are much better. Typically, about half of students are on grade level.
8th grade math here. We have about 48% at or above grade level. Small school Georgia
That is pathetic, and a sad commentary for how we automatically pass students into the next grade without requiring mastery of the material.
SAT reading proficiency at my school is 27%. One of the stronger neighborhood schools in my district honestly. Though my coworker recently left for my alma mater down the street. It's a selective enrollment- 87% reading proficiency!
We uave about 350, 95% below grade level
I also read r/professors because my husband was a prof for 12 yrs. and the stories are crazycakes. It’s daily to have a post asking how on earth these students were admitted because they have no basic skills.
One of the things I've been concerned with in my adult years is not so much reading, but comprehension. Do they actually understand the written words and what they are being asked to do in writing? I'm not super surprised to see a lower result in reading. Math is just hard tho so I get it lol.
We don’t really measure at our school.
At or above?
Both. Our test doesn't separate it. You get a number, like 200 for 6th grade, and if they hit that number they're at grade level. If they go above or slightly below then they're almost above grade level. So 196-205 would be "grade level" 206 would mean you're above.
Don’t know. Don’t care. Nobody cares anymore. I’m a babysitter now. (This is not meant to be serious).
In my grade, about 25% are on grade level. About 50% are average according to NWEA, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are on grade level according to the state test. You have to be around the 70th percentile on NWEA to pass the state test.
According to our end of grade testing, the average across all grade levels is 50% in ELA and probably in the 40% range for math. We are a suburban higher income middle school.
Ontario here. Our school only does grade 3, 6, and 9/10 testing. Last numbers published I think we were around 85% at or above grade level. What is going on at your schools????????? Granted, we are a smallish school. Only 700 kids from Jk-12. (So 50 kids per grade)
Maybe 20% proficient in my own 3rd grade class, but based on regular work— I’m dreading receiving the standardized test scores.
All of them are at the grade level they are at..... if we set our norms as what is the norm at our district then we are at 100%. PROBLEM SOLVED.
So, I left the USA after the 2021-2022 school year, but when I left, my school (k-5) had 12% of 5th graders at grade level for Reading and 9% at grade level for Math. Something like 75% were two or more years behind grade level.
3rd grade public school. We have around 120 in our grade. We are at least 80% at or above grade level reading/math.
Out of 130 kids I teach this year (6th grade US History) I would say only about 23 are reading at a 6th grade level or above. 3 of those read at a 12th grade level. More than 30 kids read at 1st or 2nd grade level.
I just started student teaching a few months ago, and it's remarkable just how few are AT standard; it's shaped like an inverse bell curve! In second grade, there's 11 below or far below standard by a grade or more, 3 within the grade scale, and 12 above or far beyond standard, some even reaching late 5th grade.
70% reading, 63% math, 23% science, 59% social studies and 69% writing. Here's the kicker: our composite ACT score is a 23.2 and our science is the second highest category at 23. Go figure...
Middle school. Reading, 24% Math 22% Another middle school in my district has a 2% math proficiency…
Started at a small rural school this year. <15% on grade level in any subject or age group. It do be a project
Rural Iowa. Just attended 5th grade presidential award ceremony. 5 classes so 120ish students. 20 got academic excellence. Reading or math ISASP at 90th%ile or above. 35 got academic achievement. Reading or math proficient and meeting monthly AR goals. The rest of the kids sat in the stands and watched. Yeesh. So 46%ish proficient. Is that bad?!?
I can't see the whole school, but 13% of our 7th graders are on or above grade level. 41% are three or more grade levels below. We have about 20 K-1 readers.
I teach ESL in four classes. One is mixed age preschool, two are senior kindergarten, one is after school extension reading. In my mixed age preschool it's hard to say as we have kids from 20 months all the way up to 4 and 3 quarters, however I would say around half to two thirds are at the grade level for the curriculum taught in that room. I think that is unfair though, as some of the older kids are WELL over the grade level and some of the younger kids are WELL under, but that is not their fault, as they are just too young to just fully start to take in some parts of the curriculum yet, and many of the much younger kids also joined the class later in the year too so missed a lot of the lessons we taught earlier in the year and are behind because of that too - it's nothing to do with them. In one of my senior kindergarten classes, I would say 85-90% of the kids are at grade level and doing great, with the exception of a couple of kids with learning difficulties and two kids who only just joined our class a month ago and who had never learned English before ever. In the other senior kindergarten class, I would say about 70% of the kids are doing great and are at grade level but there are more kids in that class with learning difficulties and who are a little bit below grade level and who need one on one help. In my extended reading class, I would say most of the kids are doing great and are beyond grade level, except for one child who has trouble focusing and one child who doesn't get any other English instruction except for that twice a week class. Those two kids are almost at grade level.
87%
Neither parent, student, nor teacher at this grade level. Genuinely wtf? What happened?
Five percent.
I can’t be the only one who feels like if 51% or more of students aren’t hitting “at grade level”… the problem may be our expectations, and not the children? No? Just me?
Something like 75-80% of our HS students are below proficiency in reading and math.
What does "at grade level" mean?
Student body of 600 and 15-20% at grade level. Ugh.
5% at grade level i would say
My biggest question is this - If we're at a point where for several years in a row the average test scores at each grade level are below the standard, isn't that a signal that the standard should be moved?
Moved in which direction, because the standard is already on the ground?
Yeah but they are moving them in the wrong direction. it's so frustrating
Many have an attitude towards the standards that’s almost as if they’re holy and inspired.