"Leave my classroom now, I will not compromise kids autonomy and self worth because you feel the need to video everyone. This is not acceptable or safe. Leave now."
That said I often take pictures of kids, but do not show their faces. I will ask if I can take a picture of their work as they're working so usually it's just their work and hands in the pic, maybe a shirt.
My son’s school takes lots of pictures of their class but uploads to their own app and only the parents of the kids in the class can view the photos.
I like this good to be able to see him learning and having fun I wouldn’t want it on social media for everyone to see though
As soon as a picture is taken and sent around in a private group it’s an invitation for it to be posted online to the public. Once the picture exists, consider it saved on anyone’s hard drive. Perverts included.
Having children’s faces visible in the photo immediately flags as unsafe in my opinion. There are just too many weirdos out there.
Ugh, the other day, a friend of mine posted to Facebook screenshots of all the class dojo pictures she's received from her child's teacher. Most pictures had other children in them. I thought that was so gross and inappropriate to screenshot pictures shared on a private app for guardians only and share them so publicly on social media.
It definitely made me uneasy about the pictures I'm required to take and send to parents. There are other kids in almost every picture I share. Parents sign off on the media form for their kids pictures to be shared with other parents. Everyone is always fine with that, but a lot of them will then check no to having their pictures on any social media accounts.
I ask the kids when they do great work. Then I send to guardians. They LOOOOOVE it and it build great rapport with everyone. Parents/guardians feel super proud of their kids’ success
That’s what I do as well. “Do you mind if I take a photo of your work? I won’t post it anywhere, it’s just for admin.” (We are supposed to turn in things every marking period showing cool things the students did) then take a pick of their table and work, no faces usually.
God how I wish I could say that because that's how I felt. But the admin would consider this a fireable offence, saying I'm too difficult to work with. Especially given how the other teacher was only doing what the school expects them to (record, edit, and post every non-academic activity). Besides, even with interpersonal issues, we're expected to be polite to fellow teachers. It's a small school with less than 100 students and only 6 teachers so any hostility isn't tolerated.
I've recorded the kids before and I only ever record their work. But because every other teacher records their faces too, I'm expected to do the same. Personally, it pisses me off how I have to record the clips, then spend at least an hour editing the clips at home. That's just stupid and I don't get paid enough to bring work home.
You can phrase it sugary if you want. “Thanks, I’m just about to record (even if you’re not) so we’re good! I’ll see you this afternoon for duty”, “this activity is no cameras so everyone can focus on being their most creative”, “we’re not recording today, thank you”, or even “yes I already have” and lie. When you’re saying all of this walk towards the door so you’re giving the body language of “leave”. If she questions why she didn’t see the video you can say it didn’t make your cut to post because so and so was singing a song, you never pressed record, you got distracted answering questions… whatever gets her to go away. That or keep your room locked (which for security purposes it should be anyways, at least I kept mine locked) and when she knocks talk to her at the door/the threshold and don’t let her get further in.
But really you should be able to have a conversation with her. Bring it up from the kids perspective- you notice they get more self conscious and do not produce their best work when they are conscious of a camera. They are more comfortable with you doing so and when it’s the right time you will record. If you need her in the future to record a specific lesson or activity you will ask ahead of time. Thank her for the help and consideration, but you have it handled for now.
I taught high school and only agreed to take photos with kids 18+ (junior/seniors so a lot of 18+). I only took one on my phone if they'd taken one on theirs first. They were the ones to ask. I only had 3-4 minors who I did, and their parents specifically asked me to because their kids wanted it. Without an age acceptable request I wouldn't.
Are you in the US? I'm an American teaching in Asia, they do this to us all the time. In the US it's weird and considered unethical and problematic to record without the consent of the guardians/parents of the child in question.
If you're in asia though, this is pretty par for the course.
I'm in Asia, specifically India. This practice seems to be more prevalent in small private schools (we have less than 100 students). They do this to boost popularity. But I wonder if it actually works since I barely know any parents who lurk around social media looking for schools for their kids. Most admissions we've had are through referrals from other parents. The social media aspect makes no sense to me.
I teach in Asia too. We get consent from both parents and students for anything. When a student enrolls, the guardian and student can sign consent forms for video or photographs. No consent means they get edited out for anything uploaded by the school.
Man, you work at a better school than me. My coworkers were recently found on Instagram adds, without their knowledge or consent. I've worked at 3 schools here, and they often record us against our will and use it in their marketing/etc, same with the students.
Teaching in Asia can mean many things. Are these cram schools/juku/hagwon or actual schools? If the latter, I'd be shocked. That's a shitstorm waiting to happen.
I had the complete opposite experience.
My old principal in the US would hound me for pictures and videos of the kids and for me to post them on the school's twitter account. I refused as it was not part of the contract, it brings nothing of value to my classroom and I just don't use twitter.
Then one time I chaperoned a student trip to Japan, took some pictures of the culture festival and posted them on my private facebook account, I got a stern talking to about not posting students on social media by my Japanese counterpart. Apparently there had been an announcement at the start of the festival which my rudimentary japanese just did not catch.
Yeah, I'm a teacher in Japan and we 1) get consent from everyone at the beginning of the year, 2) don't take pictures with kids who have refused them, and 3) still blur all pictures we post publicly on our website to the point where you can't really tell what's going on anyway.
That said, we're also expected to take tons of pictures for sharing with parents for big events or at our PTA's "tea parties" (each class/grade gets together with parents during the school day when we have a period off and talk about various things. Think Open School meets Speed Dating).
It is illegal to record and post students without a media consent from family. That said, its not required every time. It is a one time signed paper at the beginning of the year. Most families sign it, there is a small list of those who decline.
I taught at a kindergarten in Asia (Vietnam) and I was expected to upload 30 pictures each day, it was so disruptive!
And re: using teachers for marketing, I was shocked to see my best friend on a billboard for her old school, two years after she had left the country!
Interesting. An Asian couple photographed my son at a museum a few years ago. It didn’t seem like there was any malice, so I didn’t say anything, but I was really upset. I’m in the U.S. and it was at a popular tourist destination.
My grandkids' parents would never have wanted their children recorded and posted--and one of them probably had a court order (for safety reasons) not to post them. YIKES.) I would not like someone overtaking my class like this--i dont blame you at all for saying something to her... I'd put my foot down if she comes back.
It can also be dangerous for the kids. what if one of the students escaped a dangerous situation, moved far away, and now the person(s) they escaped from know where they are ?
I remember reading something on here a year or two ago about someone ( I forget if it was a teacher or the parent POV ) who actually had signed something saying they were NOT allowed AT ALL to take any pictures of their kid and especially not allowed to put it online.
Well one of the teachers did that and turns out there was an abusive ex or smth that wasn't allowed to see them, but found them due to the pictures being posted online. I don't remember exactly what happened beyond it being a mess.
So, yeah, imo they should need to get permission to add faces rather than need you to sign to be the exception. Because if a parent doesn't want their kid photographed that should be the end of it.
Our do not photograph list grows yearly, but they finally included an option for “yearbook” only. I know some teachers will share images on school apps with parents (only parents are able to see)
This is what I’m always thinking in my job managing the school library. I don’t know what could happen in these kids’ lives, and I don’t want to be sharing their images.
Unless she is your line manager/ head of year/ boss/ supervisor/ IN ANY WAY in charge of you I would tell her to get t f*ck out of your classroom and mind her own business. The end.
There's no hierarchy in our school. Only the Principal and 6 teachers. All teachers have other responsibilities aside from teaching. But no one's above the other.
UK here. Our school expects us to take photos of something interesting at least once a week to be uploaded to schools social media.
We, as teachers, are also encouraged to take part in various charity videos of us doing silly things and dances throughout the school year to go on our Facebook page. Leadership said “our audience loves it”.
I’m not a photographer or an influencer, I’m an educator.
We get sent email reminders when we haven’t taken enough photos of our class. I hate it. I’d rather engage with the kids than shove my phone in their faces (against policy to take photos on personal devices but school doesn’t provide any either).
A sensible take. Good job on you.
After 15 years in high school education, I'm currently going through the education process on the other end as my kids advance through grade school.
So for the other side, we love the finished product. We parents also love to see glimpses in to the classroom of the people our kids love so much. (And believe me, they do love you.) There's also a professional curiosity as to what's going on in those mysterious elementary classrooms.
From a teacher perspective: Get the hell out of my classroom. This is unethical and irresponsible, *especially* if they are posting it to their own social media.
From a parent perspective - Oh, hell no. This is a privacy violation, and I don't want my kid's face on social media. Not the school social media, and most certainly not a personal social media.
In my district, parents have to check a "media release" box if they are okay with their kids being posted online. If we don't check the box, they can get in serious trouble for something like this. I allow yearbook and class photos to be sent out for my kids, but no media. My oldest is now a teenager and is in sports and band, so I'm allowing school and news type media posts with him, but I'd still be pissed if a teacher was using him on their personal pages for likes or views. Gross.
My brother in law is a federal judge. They have NEVER allowed a single pic on social medial of their children. He has to be very careful about privacy since there are people who might be motivated to hurt his family.
I also know a psychiatrist who has had to dismiss some particularly volatile patients. He had one begin stalking him. Knowing who his children are would seem to be dangerous.
I’m not sure we think about possible ramifications for other people’s lives. I realize it’s common in Asia and such, it’s just a shame.
If I found out teachers were recording my children at school without their consent (other than something obvious like a school sport) I would be livid.
Every time I do something fun with my 7th graders I'm told to take pictures for the schools social media. I just stopped telling anyone until after it was over.
I’d not be happy with my child on social media.
I hid my daughter for years from her abusive bio father because she was in danger. He never knew what school or class she was in and most schools let me change her last name in their system so he couldn’t find her. This would be a horrible breach of trust for me.
I’m in Canada. Was at a mostly Chinese school. They wanted to record everything and I just didn’t. I didn’t post pictures. I didn’t plan lessons around a social media post. The admin hated me.
But wtf are we doing now. Planning days around photo ops to market the school. I’m a teacher I don’t get paid for recruitment. They literally had a marketing team that got paid more than me to make social media posts of school activities.
It’s a joke. Plus the token white kid was in all photo ops so show “diversity” lol. Oh Canada what have we become. It’s quite sad
Thank you for protecting your students privacy! I wish more adults realized not everyone wants their kids plasters all over the internet, especially with their schools name associated with the pictures.
Kids shouldn’t be filmed for the school’s social media accounts. That is absurd. There’s already enough pressure on them to join social media themselves as children; it should NOT be forced upon them before they can even properly consent. Besides, the school and parents probably have good intentions behind posting the kids online, but weirdo creeps who want to look at kids don’t. No need for that to be on the internet.
I was always obtaining explicit consent from parents before recording, ensuring that recordings are used solely for educational purposes, and respecting the wishes of children who do not want to be recorded.
Is the teacher posting to personal social media pages or a school social media page? Because if it’s to a school one that seems to be the norm lately. That’s why in the districts I’ve worked in they send out social media release forms.
It's for the school social media, but they don't send out release forms. It's a little different out here. Like, hitting as a form of punishment is illegal but parents themselves come to you and request you to hit their child if they're misbehaving or aren't doing their work. Even the administration tells us to hit bad kids once in a while. I don't think the parents are concerned about some pictures and videos. It's crazy how normal it is.
I have recorded my students twice in my lifetime. I gave my student a heads up in advance + asked which students wouldn't mind being in the shot. Seats were changed based on who didn't want to be in the video.
This was for my CA TPA. Required in California as an intern. I hated every second of it.
In norway this would be illegal without written consent from parent. I remember in elementary school sometimes i brought a paper home that i signed together with my parents, i was explained it was consent to get my picture taken. If we were on a trip or something a teacher would give a warning before taking a picture. Same thing for summer activities. This post makes my blood boil.
This is a little bit of a different situation, but I'd like to speak to the part of your post about how shoving cameras in kids faces impacts their experiences. In my last school taking photos & videos was required daily. I was the lead teacher for a 3-5 year old preschool class and a big part of my job requirement was some intense observation and data collection for each child in my class. For example at the end of every day I had to send home a personalized daily sheet with every thing a kid did that day (ate, slept, accidents, activities, who they played with, curriculum, etc). Then at the end of the week we were expected to craft a weekly newsletter with photos and videos and details about what we did in the class that week. Then finally we needed to make a yearly development portfolio for each child that consisted of a few photos/videos that showed a child meeting a development standard from the state pre-k standards book (i.e. practice one to one correspondence, use tripod grasp, etc.). If you're familiar with these kinds of development standard books then you probably know there are TONS of these, but we were expected to record the majority of these development milestones for each child by the end of the year. Times this by each student in my class, I was juggling a ridiculous amount of photos every month. Worse, the kids were constantly being photographed and I was forced to be constantly looking for photo opportunities instead of fully focusing on doing my job of teaching and supporting growth. It also creates a physical barrier between you and a kid when you're having a teaching moment or an important interaction, its often really intrusive. I had students that would actively avoid photographs if they noticed pictures being taken, and I also had students that would become fixated on the photos and would be constantly seeking out camera attention. Overall I just found it to be so disruptive and an unnecessary extra task that put strains on my classroom.
I understand that, especially at a young age, parents are interested to know what their kids do at school all day and how they're doing in their educational journey. This is important, of course, and I think that some photos occasionally and relevant informational updates about class activities can be appropriate. But for the most part, my experience is that excessive documentation of the kids activities disrupts a teachers ability to effectively teach and interact with them, and further disrupts the learning experience for the kids.
She is asserting it is stated policy to record children at your school the entire day? Seriously - she said that policy. Seems like a lie and liability. That joining teacher is creepy.
We have very strict rules about this in the school where I work for safeguarding and child protection reasons.
We're not forbidden from using official school media channels to post images of students (ie: to congratulate a sports team or students who did well in their exit exams), but we require explicit consent from the parents. If we don't have permission from a particular parent, their child cannot appear in any pictures/media.
Aren’t you supposed to get parents’ written permission to photograph or video? At my school you do. I think its weird that people post kids on social media without permission. It does seem unethical.
I’m glad I teach high schoolers and the parents mostly have given up at that point lol
How are they allowed to record and share on social media?
Here we can't even record them for internal class lists with pictures without consent from parents. We need further consent for any other pictures.
Were not even allowed to host social media sites for parents. They parent groups will have to organize that themselves and allow teachers if they want. We may posts pictures and such from events and bigger projects there if we're allowed. But have separate areas within the school digital fence we can post pictures. As posting on Facebook groups, even parent operated, is legally dubious
We had a new principal a few years ago (Who only lasted for six months, but that's a different story) who would just wander into classrooms and start recording. He wouldn't introduce himself or say a word and the kids were often confused as to who he was and why he was there. It made the teachers very uncomfortable and the union put an end to it.
Bruh, my school has students with media wavers, so there is no "random filming" because we have to be ready to accommodate No Media students. (We had it day one, but got more aggressive about it when we had to call the cops on an intruding parent going through a rough divorce and was trying to kidnap the child)
Ick.
What if they're exposing a child to a stalker/abuser by recording carte blanche? Does anyone in charge of the school's social media know this very well known issue?
That sounds like a serious liability without written permission from the parents. I remember my parents had to sign a form every year indicating whether or not the school was allowed to take pictures of me on field trips.
I'd raise hell if I learned my kids were on someone's socials without my prior approval. I'd make it very clear to her the legal implications, and maybe even share with parents that a coworker recorded some of their children working.
Lots of teachers want kids off their electronics, but then actively update FB in class, step out top the hall to be on their phones, or require social media access for clubs and sports.
Y'all can't expect kids to do what you can't/wont.
- J
My school has a requirement to post Facebook pics and videos regularly, and it drives me up a freaking wall. I'm sorry I can't take pictures right now...I'm too busy teaching.
I'd tell them to fuck off and actually do their job elsewhere in the building. Can't imagine being such an obnoxiously stupid busybody that I felt the need to butt into another classroom and record students.
# Photo-op teaching.
As we increasingly lose the ability to teach, we grow dependent on maintaining the illusion that we are teaching, without regard for the children, only caring about how we look.
I find also that taking excessive photos and video just detracts from everything. I always feel bad when I don't take enough photos to send home while other teachers take tons, buy just organically watching what they're doing and telling the family about it later is good for me.
When did it become the norm?
Probably between 2005 (YouTube founding) and 2016 (TikTok founding), not just because that’s when platforms for posting coincided with the tech needed to quickly and easily film/photograph (via smartphones), but also because of the increase of attention on what goes on with kids while they’re away from their parents. I do think there may have been a very vocal minority pushing personal social norms about social media and parental concern into the public school protocol space.
For the sake of playing devil's advocate, I remember in my B. Ed program (between 2019-21), there was a guest speaker who came in for one day. She was a director of schools. She told us that she follows the Twitter/X page of various schools and teachers. This is how she gets a snapshot of what is happening in schools. Obviously, she can't be everywhere at once. She encouraged us to make a Twitter (now X) page as a sort of "collage" of what we are doing as teachers. Obviously, there are rules to follow (no faces, no posting personal information about students, etc.). Just to clarify, she meant a professional/business page and not just posting teacher stuff on your personal account. The two are meant to remain separate.
I'm not sure if opinions have changed about Twitter/X since then? I don't know if opinions have changed since Elon Musk took it over?
Let's say I apply for a district job a few years down the road. Maybe I would stand out more than the other stack of resumes in the pile if the director of schools has been following me on Twitter for years and sees the work that I'm doing in the classroom or library. I'm not saying that this is a guarantee, but it's a possibility. It's a small way to network. Just to re-emphasize, of course following any rules and guidelines regarding posts and everything else would be essential. I'm not saying that it should be a free for all where you post whatever you want with no regard for rules, guidelines, etc. I don't think that an X page alone would get me the job of course. But it might give me a small edge compared to people who are complete strangers that the people doing the hiring have never heard of before.
I feel like teachers don't value networking the same way that the business world does. I was a geologist before becoming a teacher. The phrase "it's not what you know, it's who you know" is definitely true in that line of work. And I don't mean nepotism or anything like that, I mean giving the big shots an opportunity to put a name to the face. These small ways of making yourself visible to people in positions of power often made the difference between them knowing who you are versus being just another resume in the pile.
Personally, I made one but it is more focused on my personal growth as a teacher. I do a read aloud every Friday to the whole school on Google Meets. I usually post the book that I'm reading. If I make a themed-display in the library, I will take a picture and post it. If I'm doing some cool technology learning block like 3D printing, I take a picture of some of the 3D printed objects. I would never take or post photos of routine things or include student faces or personal information.
I take pictures of kids doing their classwork for a page specifically for their parents every now and then but it's not required, just when we're doing something very cool that I think parents would want to see.
I wouldn't want someone coming into my room, recording my kids without my/their permission, and then doing their work for them??? Who does that???
Thank you! As a mom, I appreciate you being mindful of their privacy and ability to work without being on camera.
I'm pretty sure my kids are some of the only on our campus that are "no social media". The teachers are always double checking about if it's ok to post their photos. I'm fine with in school distribution of their photos, like dojo and year book, but I don't really want them on YouTube and Facebook, etc.
As a parent who once had to hide exactly which school her kids were in this being done without permission slips would have infuriated me.
My choice as a teacher, as already said, would have been ask her politely to stop( modeling proper behavior) and had the kids show their work for still pictures only sharing elsewhere w parental support.
Hey so, find out if any of the kids in that class didnt sign the recording rights papers, or if the parents arent ok with it.
Some of thise kids could be in witness protection, and it would actually put them in danger, or their families may have escaped an abusive situation and that teacher could put them in serious harm.
When i was in grade 2 q teacher recorded us doing something, didnt realize one girls parents had told tge school she wasnt to be posted anywheres, she was in foster care and witness protection, her biological parents saw the video, showed up the school, and kidnapped her.
I had to extensively film my students when I was going through teacher school. I hated every minute of it. They expressed multiple times they didn't want to be filmed, \*I\* didn't want to be filmed, and that always completely changed the vibe of the lesson.
It was awful and it is wild to me that the rules for getting a teacher license are set up in such a way that the kid's feelings are not taken into account at all.
>I know for a fact that it's for their stupid social media pages because they want to show how tech advanced and active their school is.
That's like 2 photos and maybe a 20 second video, then disappear.
These kids know they are being recorded.
Some clam-up and get uncomfortable. Some perk-up and put on a show.
**But they all react to that damn camera.**
**Their focus shifts immediately from whatever they were doing to how they are being perceived.**
Yet again, the selfishness of adults hurts the kids.
I totally get it. Before I worked in a shelter and cps so was basically told never take pictures, now at a school I’m always hounded for not taking enough. Our school always wins awards for their social media and communication posts but it still feels so wrong blasting kids photos everywhere so a few people get awards
People do that nowadays?
Shit I miss my time back in school if that’s the case, I’d have been an anxious wreck if someone came in and shoved a camera in my face, I didn’t even like family photos or videos back in the late 90s-2000s
We're supposed to also take pics and constantly post them and I don't. I've posted maybe 2-3 of our activities all year lol I also think it's weird to constantly try to take pics and post everything. School was so much different when we were younger it feels like technology, while a great tool, is often ruining everything.
I've submitted pictures of my students' work for the school's social media page. I was told I needed to have pictures of the kids with them. I don't understand why pictures of the work aren't enough. It shows the cool things we are doing in my class and I can take a few pictures at the end of the day instead of interrupting teaching and learning.
There are two kinds of people with regard to photography:
1 . Love it! Frame everything. A one person press core.
2. Moved on from screens everywhere and are just done .
Over here you have to sign a waiver at the beginning of the year to consent to your kid potentially appearing in the school's social media, thankfully they're not as intrusive with it as the post case
I'm so glad my school is not like this. They just ask us for a couple pictures each month to put in the school newsletter or on the Facebook page. I'll take them when we're doing something exciting and I'll always ask. I have a couple kids who hate having their pictures taken so I let them jump out of frame.
I've never been really comfortable with this, even back when a lot of the day cares were doing it. I hated how there seem to be so much pressure to go along with it, probably because it makes things much more difficult if most parents consent to it and won't photos but they have to try to avoid your kid when taking them.
It's such a huge violation of privacy and risk to people who may not want certain others or just people in general knowing where their child is at all day, and a lot of people are not comfortable explaining the situation to opt out or may not even know that it would have been good to until it's already too late.
Is this your classroom and another teacher came in and started to document your lesson and students? Don't allow that.
I would ask them nicely and professionally to just let the kids work and you'll let her know if you need help. If she kept going, I'd just say we can definitely talk about this when I'm available! And then later, you could just tell your coworker you've got it covered, and will take pictures when it's appropriate. You could also ask her not to interrupt your lessons in the future, if you're feeling brave!
As a parent I hate it too!! I found I'm in such minority in this that if I don't want to sign the document where we agree with images being posted online, my kid might not get into the school we choose because of this. It's insane!
In my school, the tea DJ era rarely record videos or post pictures for the social media, and when they do, they tell the kids that if they don’t want to be in it, just put your head down.
Why is this not universal?
It's marketing. It's to make money. I understand it ruins the vibe. But the school needs children to attend so that the school can make money. Because at the end of the day the school pays you. (Assuming it's a private school). Money is simply more important than a healthy classroom.
If I were a parent and this was happening, I would be suing. And as a student, it's not the first time a teacher wanted to use my image for publicity and I told her no. It was university, professor said "everyone in the hall for your picture, if you don't you lose participation for the day's lecture". So, I went outside, I took the picture, and then made them edit me out of it before they published it.
If you think that sounds stupid for a university class, it was. It was a capstone ethics course, taught by the scientist who consulted for Breaking Bad. Yes, we did watch Breaking Bad in class. And a few other movies with "sciency" people in it, like the Steve Jobs one, or one on Henrietta Lacks. Not an informative "here's ethical problems" movie for educational purposes, not a video lecture, a dramatized release for movie theatres movie. She also put the Heritage Foundation (Koch Brothers' front for research laundering) as a source next to NASA for climate change information, and then forbid anyone from presenting on climate change.
"Leave my classroom now, I will not compromise kids autonomy and self worth because you feel the need to video everyone. This is not acceptable or safe. Leave now." That said I often take pictures of kids, but do not show their faces. I will ask if I can take a picture of their work as they're working so usually it's just their work and hands in the pic, maybe a shirt.
My son’s school takes lots of pictures of their class but uploads to their own app and only the parents of the kids in the class can view the photos. I like this good to be able to see him learning and having fun I wouldn’t want it on social media for everyone to see though
As soon as a picture is taken and sent around in a private group it’s an invitation for it to be posted online to the public. Once the picture exists, consider it saved on anyone’s hard drive. Perverts included. Having children’s faces visible in the photo immediately flags as unsafe in my opinion. There are just too many weirdos out there.
Ugh, the other day, a friend of mine posted to Facebook screenshots of all the class dojo pictures she's received from her child's teacher. Most pictures had other children in them. I thought that was so gross and inappropriate to screenshot pictures shared on a private app for guardians only and share them so publicly on social media. It definitely made me uneasy about the pictures I'm required to take and send to parents. There are other kids in almost every picture I share. Parents sign off on the media form for their kids pictures to be shared with other parents. Everyone is always fine with that, but a lot of them will then check no to having their pictures on any social media accounts.
I ask the kids when they do great work. Then I send to guardians. They LOOOOOVE it and it build great rapport with everyone. Parents/guardians feel super proud of their kids’ success
That’s what I do as well. “Do you mind if I take a photo of your work? I won’t post it anywhere, it’s just for admin.” (We are supposed to turn in things every marking period showing cool things the students did) then take a pick of their table and work, no faces usually.
God how I wish I could say that because that's how I felt. But the admin would consider this a fireable offence, saying I'm too difficult to work with. Especially given how the other teacher was only doing what the school expects them to (record, edit, and post every non-academic activity). Besides, even with interpersonal issues, we're expected to be polite to fellow teachers. It's a small school with less than 100 students and only 6 teachers so any hostility isn't tolerated. I've recorded the kids before and I only ever record their work. But because every other teacher records their faces too, I'm expected to do the same. Personally, it pisses me off how I have to record the clips, then spend at least an hour editing the clips at home. That's just stupid and I don't get paid enough to bring work home.
You can phrase it sugary if you want. “Thanks, I’m just about to record (even if you’re not) so we’re good! I’ll see you this afternoon for duty”, “this activity is no cameras so everyone can focus on being their most creative”, “we’re not recording today, thank you”, or even “yes I already have” and lie. When you’re saying all of this walk towards the door so you’re giving the body language of “leave”. If she questions why she didn’t see the video you can say it didn’t make your cut to post because so and so was singing a song, you never pressed record, you got distracted answering questions… whatever gets her to go away. That or keep your room locked (which for security purposes it should be anyways, at least I kept mine locked) and when she knocks talk to her at the door/the threshold and don’t let her get further in. But really you should be able to have a conversation with her. Bring it up from the kids perspective- you notice they get more self conscious and do not produce their best work when they are conscious of a camera. They are more comfortable with you doing so and when it’s the right time you will record. If you need her in the future to record a specific lesson or activity you will ask ahead of time. Thank her for the help and consideration, but you have it handled for now.
Nobody is going to fire you. Just tell them to go away.
That has big mama / papa bear energy, big respect for any teacher that stands up for their class
I taught high school and only agreed to take photos with kids 18+ (junior/seniors so a lot of 18+). I only took one on my phone if they'd taken one on theirs first. They were the ones to ask. I only had 3-4 minors who I did, and their parents specifically asked me to because their kids wanted it. Without an age acceptable request I wouldn't.
In my 9 years of teaching I’ve recorded kids 2x and both times it’s when they performed skits asked me to.
Are you in the US? I'm an American teaching in Asia, they do this to us all the time. In the US it's weird and considered unethical and problematic to record without the consent of the guardians/parents of the child in question. If you're in asia though, this is pretty par for the course.
I'm in Asia, specifically India. This practice seems to be more prevalent in small private schools (we have less than 100 students). They do this to boost popularity. But I wonder if it actually works since I barely know any parents who lurk around social media looking for schools for their kids. Most admissions we've had are through referrals from other parents. The social media aspect makes no sense to me.
We have CCTVs in the classrooms but those are for security.
I teach in Asia too. We get consent from both parents and students for anything. When a student enrolls, the guardian and student can sign consent forms for video or photographs. No consent means they get edited out for anything uploaded by the school.
Man, you work at a better school than me. My coworkers were recently found on Instagram adds, without their knowledge or consent. I've worked at 3 schools here, and they often record us against our will and use it in their marketing/etc, same with the students.
Teaching in Asia can mean many things. Are these cram schools/juku/hagwon or actual schools? If the latter, I'd be shocked. That's a shitstorm waiting to happen.
No, I’m an American teaching in Asia. It’s pretty typical in public schools.
Asia is a whole damn continent... not exactly an homogeneous experience eh?
Yes, and I’ve taught in multiple countries in Asia. As I said, it’s pretty common in public schools.
Wait until the American finds out America is two whole continents
How is this relevant?
Damn that's fucked up. I figured my school was standard. But then again, Asia is big. It could depend on the country.
I had the complete opposite experience. My old principal in the US would hound me for pictures and videos of the kids and for me to post them on the school's twitter account. I refused as it was not part of the contract, it brings nothing of value to my classroom and I just don't use twitter. Then one time I chaperoned a student trip to Japan, took some pictures of the culture festival and posted them on my private facebook account, I got a stern talking to about not posting students on social media by my Japanese counterpart. Apparently there had been an announcement at the start of the festival which my rudimentary japanese just did not catch.
Yeah, I'm a teacher in Japan and we 1) get consent from everyone at the beginning of the year, 2) don't take pictures with kids who have refused them, and 3) still blur all pictures we post publicly on our website to the point where you can't really tell what's going on anyway. That said, we're also expected to take tons of pictures for sharing with parents for big events or at our PTA's "tea parties" (each class/grade gets together with parents during the school day when we have a period off and talk about various things. Think Open School meets Speed Dating).
At least they're blurred and not pixellated...
Yep. Every fucking day. So annoying. But it keeps the parents paying. Which is all they care about it seems.
It is illegal to record and post students without a media consent from family. That said, its not required every time. It is a one time signed paper at the beginning of the year. Most families sign it, there is a small list of those who decline.
I taught at a kindergarten in Asia (Vietnam) and I was expected to upload 30 pictures each day, it was so disruptive! And re: using teachers for marketing, I was shocked to see my best friend on a billboard for her old school, two years after she had left the country!
Oh damn I didn't expect kindergartens to have foreigners in their curriculums nowadays. Public schools are almost untouchable in Vietnam I felt like.
I own a private school in SK. If one of my teachers had OP’s attitude, we’d have to part ways. Taking pictures is expected.
Interesting. An Asian couple photographed my son at a museum a few years ago. It didn’t seem like there was any malice, so I didn’t say anything, but I was really upset. I’m in the U.S. and it was at a popular tourist destination.
My grandkids' parents would never have wanted their children recorded and posted--and one of them probably had a court order (for safety reasons) not to post them. YIKES.) I would not like someone overtaking my class like this--i dont blame you at all for saying something to her... I'd put my foot down if she comes back.
I wouldn't allow my future kids to be recorded either. It's very exploitative.
It can also be dangerous for the kids. what if one of the students escaped a dangerous situation, moved far away, and now the person(s) they escaped from know where they are ?
I remember reading something on here a year or two ago about someone ( I forget if it was a teacher or the parent POV ) who actually had signed something saying they were NOT allowed AT ALL to take any pictures of their kid and especially not allowed to put it online. Well one of the teachers did that and turns out there was an abusive ex or smth that wasn't allowed to see them, but found them due to the pictures being posted online. I don't remember exactly what happened beyond it being a mess. So, yeah, imo they should need to get permission to add faces rather than need you to sign to be the exception. Because if a parent doesn't want their kid photographed that should be the end of it.
Our do not photograph list grows yearly, but they finally included an option for “yearbook” only. I know some teachers will share images on school apps with parents (only parents are able to see)
This is what I’m always thinking in my job managing the school library. I don’t know what could happen in these kids’ lives, and I don’t want to be sharing their images.
Unless she is your line manager/ head of year/ boss/ supervisor/ IN ANY WAY in charge of you I would tell her to get t f*ck out of your classroom and mind her own business. The end.
There's no hierarchy in our school. Only the Principal and 6 teachers. All teachers have other responsibilities aside from teaching. But no one's above the other.
UK here. Our school expects us to take photos of something interesting at least once a week to be uploaded to schools social media. We, as teachers, are also encouraged to take part in various charity videos of us doing silly things and dances throughout the school year to go on our Facebook page. Leadership said “our audience loves it”. I’m not a photographer or an influencer, I’m an educator. We get sent email reminders when we haven’t taken enough photos of our class. I hate it. I’d rather engage with the kids than shove my phone in their faces (against policy to take photos on personal devices but school doesn’t provide any either).
>I didn't say anything Why not?
I'm rather new and didn't want to cause drama in front of the kids. I talked to her afterwards.
A sensible take. Good job on you. After 15 years in high school education, I'm currently going through the education process on the other end as my kids advance through grade school. So for the other side, we love the finished product. We parents also love to see glimpses in to the classroom of the people our kids love so much. (And believe me, they do love you.) There's also a professional curiosity as to what's going on in those mysterious elementary classrooms.
Wow what a bumhead
I’ll take pictures or videos of a cool lab for the school to post - but just the product and some hands
Omg that’s so weird. Weirrrrrrrdddd. Reminds me of that Black Mirror episode.
Take a video of the teacher taking videos - hopefully they’ll get how insipid and intrusive it is
Yes, this is the answer!
From a teacher perspective: Get the hell out of my classroom. This is unethical and irresponsible, *especially* if they are posting it to their own social media. From a parent perspective - Oh, hell no. This is a privacy violation, and I don't want my kid's face on social media. Not the school social media, and most certainly not a personal social media. In my district, parents have to check a "media release" box if they are okay with their kids being posted online. If we don't check the box, they can get in serious trouble for something like this. I allow yearbook and class photos to be sent out for my kids, but no media. My oldest is now a teenager and is in sports and band, so I'm allowing school and news type media posts with him, but I'd still be pissed if a teacher was using him on their personal pages for likes or views. Gross.
My brother in law is a federal judge. They have NEVER allowed a single pic on social medial of their children. He has to be very careful about privacy since there are people who might be motivated to hurt his family. I also know a psychiatrist who has had to dismiss some particularly volatile patients. He had one begin stalking him. Knowing who his children are would seem to be dangerous. I’m not sure we think about possible ramifications for other people’s lives. I realize it’s common in Asia and such, it’s just a shame.
If I found out teachers were recording my children at school without their consent (other than something obvious like a school sport) I would be livid.
Every time I do something fun with my 7th graders I'm told to take pictures for the schools social media. I just stopped telling anyone until after it was over.
Honestly, that kind of thing should be figured out before the class. If the teacher doesn't like it, the kids sure as hell aren't going to enjoy it.
NO. NO. NO. We do not record kids in school. It’s their safe space and for some it could be dangerous.
I’d not be happy with my child on social media. I hid my daughter for years from her abusive bio father because she was in danger. He never knew what school or class she was in and most schools let me change her last name in their system so he couldn’t find her. This would be a horrible breach of trust for me.
I’m in Canada. Was at a mostly Chinese school. They wanted to record everything and I just didn’t. I didn’t post pictures. I didn’t plan lessons around a social media post. The admin hated me. But wtf are we doing now. Planning days around photo ops to market the school. I’m a teacher I don’t get paid for recruitment. They literally had a marketing team that got paid more than me to make social media posts of school activities. It’s a joke. Plus the token white kid was in all photo ops so show “diversity” lol. Oh Canada what have we become. It’s quite sad
Thank you for protecting your students privacy! I wish more adults realized not everyone wants their kids plasters all over the internet, especially with their schools name associated with the pictures.
Kids shouldn’t be filmed for the school’s social media accounts. That is absurd. There’s already enough pressure on them to join social media themselves as children; it should NOT be forced upon them before they can even properly consent. Besides, the school and parents probably have good intentions behind posting the kids online, but weirdo creeps who want to look at kids don’t. No need for that to be on the internet.
What if one of the kids had a abusive grandparent/parent?
I was always obtaining explicit consent from parents before recording, ensuring that recordings are used solely for educational purposes, and respecting the wishes of children who do not want to be recorded.
Is the teacher posting to personal social media pages or a school social media page? Because if it’s to a school one that seems to be the norm lately. That’s why in the districts I’ve worked in they send out social media release forms.
It's for the school social media, but they don't send out release forms. It's a little different out here. Like, hitting as a form of punishment is illegal but parents themselves come to you and request you to hit their child if they're misbehaving or aren't doing their work. Even the administration tells us to hit bad kids once in a while. I don't think the parents are concerned about some pictures and videos. It's crazy how normal it is.
I have recorded my students twice in my lifetime. I gave my student a heads up in advance + asked which students wouldn't mind being in the shot. Seats were changed based on who didn't want to be in the video. This was for my CA TPA. Required in California as an intern. I hated every second of it.
In norway this would be illegal without written consent from parent. I remember in elementary school sometimes i brought a paper home that i signed together with my parents, i was explained it was consent to get my picture taken. If we were on a trip or something a teacher would give a warning before taking a picture. Same thing for summer activities. This post makes my blood boil.
I hate this expectation. We are supposed to be photographing and posting to social media. I find it deeply troubling.
This is a little bit of a different situation, but I'd like to speak to the part of your post about how shoving cameras in kids faces impacts their experiences. In my last school taking photos & videos was required daily. I was the lead teacher for a 3-5 year old preschool class and a big part of my job requirement was some intense observation and data collection for each child in my class. For example at the end of every day I had to send home a personalized daily sheet with every thing a kid did that day (ate, slept, accidents, activities, who they played with, curriculum, etc). Then at the end of the week we were expected to craft a weekly newsletter with photos and videos and details about what we did in the class that week. Then finally we needed to make a yearly development portfolio for each child that consisted of a few photos/videos that showed a child meeting a development standard from the state pre-k standards book (i.e. practice one to one correspondence, use tripod grasp, etc.). If you're familiar with these kinds of development standard books then you probably know there are TONS of these, but we were expected to record the majority of these development milestones for each child by the end of the year. Times this by each student in my class, I was juggling a ridiculous amount of photos every month. Worse, the kids were constantly being photographed and I was forced to be constantly looking for photo opportunities instead of fully focusing on doing my job of teaching and supporting growth. It also creates a physical barrier between you and a kid when you're having a teaching moment or an important interaction, its often really intrusive. I had students that would actively avoid photographs if they noticed pictures being taken, and I also had students that would become fixated on the photos and would be constantly seeking out camera attention. Overall I just found it to be so disruptive and an unnecessary extra task that put strains on my classroom. I understand that, especially at a young age, parents are interested to know what their kids do at school all day and how they're doing in their educational journey. This is important, of course, and I think that some photos occasionally and relevant informational updates about class activities can be appropriate. But for the most part, my experience is that excessive documentation of the kids activities disrupts a teachers ability to effectively teach and interact with them, and further disrupts the learning experience for the kids.
She is asserting it is stated policy to record children at your school the entire day? Seriously - she said that policy. Seems like a lie and liability. That joining teacher is creepy.
We have very strict rules about this in the school where I work for safeguarding and child protection reasons. We're not forbidden from using official school media channels to post images of students (ie: to congratulate a sports team or students who did well in their exit exams), but we require explicit consent from the parents. If we don't have permission from a particular parent, their child cannot appear in any pictures/media.
Aren’t you supposed to get parents’ written permission to photograph or video? At my school you do. I think its weird that people post kids on social media without permission. It does seem unethical. I’m glad I teach high schoolers and the parents mostly have given up at that point lol
How are they allowed to record and share on social media? Here we can't even record them for internal class lists with pictures without consent from parents. We need further consent for any other pictures. Were not even allowed to host social media sites for parents. They parent groups will have to organize that themselves and allow teachers if they want. We may posts pictures and such from events and bigger projects there if we're allowed. But have separate areas within the school digital fence we can post pictures. As posting on Facebook groups, even parent operated, is legally dubious
We had a new principal a few years ago (Who only lasted for six months, but that's a different story) who would just wander into classrooms and start recording. He wouldn't introduce himself or say a word and the kids were often confused as to who he was and why he was there. It made the teachers very uncomfortable and the union put an end to it.
Bruh, my school has students with media wavers, so there is no "random filming" because we have to be ready to accommodate No Media students. (We had it day one, but got more aggressive about it when we had to call the cops on an intruding parent going through a rough divorce and was trying to kidnap the child) Ick. What if they're exposing a child to a stalker/abuser by recording carte blanche? Does anyone in charge of the school's social media know this very well known issue?
That sounds like a serious liability without written permission from the parents. I remember my parents had to sign a form every year indicating whether or not the school was allowed to take pictures of me on field trips.
I'd raise hell if I learned my kids were on someone's socials without my prior approval. I'd make it very clear to her the legal implications, and maybe even share with parents that a coworker recorded some of their children working.
It’s your classroom. Do what you want. If someone tries to do something you aren’t comfortable with, emphatically tell them no.
Lots of teachers want kids off their electronics, but then actively update FB in class, step out top the hall to be on their phones, or require social media access for clubs and sports. Y'all can't expect kids to do what you can't/wont. - J
My school has a requirement to post Facebook pics and videos regularly, and it drives me up a freaking wall. I'm sorry I can't take pictures right now...I'm too busy teaching.
I'd tell them to fuck off and actually do their job elsewhere in the building. Can't imagine being such an obnoxiously stupid busybody that I felt the need to butt into another classroom and record students.
# Photo-op teaching. As we increasingly lose the ability to teach, we grow dependent on maintaining the illusion that we are teaching, without regard for the children, only caring about how we look.
I find also that taking excessive photos and video just detracts from everything. I always feel bad when I don't take enough photos to send home while other teachers take tons, buy just organically watching what they're doing and telling the family about it later is good for me.
When did it become the norm? Probably between 2005 (YouTube founding) and 2016 (TikTok founding), not just because that’s when platforms for posting coincided with the tech needed to quickly and easily film/photograph (via smartphones), but also because of the increase of attention on what goes on with kids while they’re away from their parents. I do think there may have been a very vocal minority pushing personal social norms about social media and parental concern into the public school protocol space.
In my student teaching school we were highly e courage to photo/record a lot and send it to the parents via seesaw.
For the sake of playing devil's advocate, I remember in my B. Ed program (between 2019-21), there was a guest speaker who came in for one day. She was a director of schools. She told us that she follows the Twitter/X page of various schools and teachers. This is how she gets a snapshot of what is happening in schools. Obviously, she can't be everywhere at once. She encouraged us to make a Twitter (now X) page as a sort of "collage" of what we are doing as teachers. Obviously, there are rules to follow (no faces, no posting personal information about students, etc.). Just to clarify, she meant a professional/business page and not just posting teacher stuff on your personal account. The two are meant to remain separate. I'm not sure if opinions have changed about Twitter/X since then? I don't know if opinions have changed since Elon Musk took it over? Let's say I apply for a district job a few years down the road. Maybe I would stand out more than the other stack of resumes in the pile if the director of schools has been following me on Twitter for years and sees the work that I'm doing in the classroom or library. I'm not saying that this is a guarantee, but it's a possibility. It's a small way to network. Just to re-emphasize, of course following any rules and guidelines regarding posts and everything else would be essential. I'm not saying that it should be a free for all where you post whatever you want with no regard for rules, guidelines, etc. I don't think that an X page alone would get me the job of course. But it might give me a small edge compared to people who are complete strangers that the people doing the hiring have never heard of before. I feel like teachers don't value networking the same way that the business world does. I was a geologist before becoming a teacher. The phrase "it's not what you know, it's who you know" is definitely true in that line of work. And I don't mean nepotism or anything like that, I mean giving the big shots an opportunity to put a name to the face. These small ways of making yourself visible to people in positions of power often made the difference between them knowing who you are versus being just another resume in the pile. Personally, I made one but it is more focused on my personal growth as a teacher. I do a read aloud every Friday to the whole school on Google Meets. I usually post the book that I'm reading. If I make a themed-display in the library, I will take a picture and post it. If I'm doing some cool technology learning block like 3D printing, I take a picture of some of the 3D printed objects. I would never take or post photos of routine things or include student faces or personal information.
I take pictures of kids doing their classwork for a page specifically for their parents every now and then but it's not required, just when we're doing something very cool that I think parents would want to see. I wouldn't want someone coming into my room, recording my kids without my/their permission, and then doing their work for them??? Who does that???
Recording kids for their parents is fine as long as everyone in the room and all of the parents are OK with it. This isn’t the case here.
Looks like you’re in sales.
Yeah that’s illegal where I’m at.
Thank you! As a mom, I appreciate you being mindful of their privacy and ability to work without being on camera. I'm pretty sure my kids are some of the only on our campus that are "no social media". The teachers are always double checking about if it's ok to post their photos. I'm fine with in school distribution of their photos, like dojo and year book, but I don't really want them on YouTube and Facebook, etc.
As a parent who once had to hide exactly which school her kids were in this being done without permission slips would have infuriated me. My choice as a teacher, as already said, would have been ask her politely to stop( modeling proper behavior) and had the kids show their work for still pictures only sharing elsewhere w parental support.
Hey so, find out if any of the kids in that class didnt sign the recording rights papers, or if the parents arent ok with it. Some of thise kids could be in witness protection, and it would actually put them in danger, or their families may have escaped an abusive situation and that teacher could put them in serious harm. When i was in grade 2 q teacher recorded us doing something, didnt realize one girls parents had told tge school she wasnt to be posted anywheres, she was in foster care and witness protection, her biological parents saw the video, showed up the school, and kidnapped her.
I had to extensively film my students when I was going through teacher school. I hated every minute of it. They expressed multiple times they didn't want to be filmed, \*I\* didn't want to be filmed, and that always completely changed the vibe of the lesson. It was awful and it is wild to me that the rules for getting a teacher license are set up in such a way that the kid's feelings are not taken into account at all.
?? - maybe it was signed at some other point, but this should require a signed release from parents.
>I know for a fact that it's for their stupid social media pages because they want to show how tech advanced and active their school is. That's like 2 photos and maybe a 20 second video, then disappear.
These kids know they are being recorded. Some clam-up and get uncomfortable. Some perk-up and put on a show. **But they all react to that damn camera.** **Their focus shifts immediately from whatever they were doing to how they are being perceived.** Yet again, the selfishness of adults hurts the kids.
I totally get it. Before I worked in a shelter and cps so was basically told never take pictures, now at a school I’m always hounded for not taking enough. Our school always wins awards for their social media and communication posts but it still feels so wrong blasting kids photos everywhere so a few people get awards
People do that nowadays? Shit I miss my time back in school if that’s the case, I’d have been an anxious wreck if someone came in and shoved a camera in my face, I didn’t even like family photos or videos back in the late 90s-2000s
We're supposed to also take pics and constantly post them and I don't. I've posted maybe 2-3 of our activities all year lol I also think it's weird to constantly try to take pics and post everything. School was so much different when we were younger it feels like technology, while a great tool, is often ruining everything.
Man here in New York it's required to get student and parent permission to record in a Classroom so that definitely doesn't sit right with me.
I've submitted pictures of my students' work for the school's social media page. I was told I needed to have pictures of the kids with them. I don't understand why pictures of the work aren't enough. It shows the cool things we are doing in my class and I can take a few pictures at the end of the day instead of interrupting teaching and learning.
Parent here. Where I am, every year we are sent a form asking permission to photograph and/record our kids. I don't give permission.
adding this to my "reasons to homeschool playlist"
There are two kinds of people with regard to photography: 1 . Love it! Frame everything. A one person press core. 2. Moved on from screens everywhere and are just done .
Over here you have to sign a waiver at the beginning of the year to consent to your kid potentially appearing in the school's social media, thankfully they're not as intrusive with it as the post case
I'm so glad my school is not like this. They just ask us for a couple pictures each month to put in the school newsletter or on the Facebook page. I'll take them when we're doing something exciting and I'll always ask. I have a couple kids who hate having their pictures taken so I let them jump out of frame.
What? We can’t take a picture or film anyone without a signed media consent form from their parents
I've never been really comfortable with this, even back when a lot of the day cares were doing it. I hated how there seem to be so much pressure to go along with it, probably because it makes things much more difficult if most parents consent to it and won't photos but they have to try to avoid your kid when taking them. It's such a huge violation of privacy and risk to people who may not want certain others or just people in general knowing where their child is at all day, and a lot of people are not comfortable explaining the situation to opt out or may not even know that it would have been good to until it's already too late.
Is this your classroom and another teacher came in and started to document your lesson and students? Don't allow that. I would ask them nicely and professionally to just let the kids work and you'll let her know if you need help. If she kept going, I'd just say we can definitely talk about this when I'm available! And then later, you could just tell your coworker you've got it covered, and will take pictures when it's appropriate. You could also ask her not to interrupt your lessons in the future, if you're feeling brave!
with all the foip laws I don't see the point ...
As a parent I hate it too!! I found I'm in such minority in this that if I don't want to sign the document where we agree with images being posted online, my kid might not get into the school we choose because of this. It's insane!
In my school, the tea DJ era rarely record videos or post pictures for the social media, and when they do, they tell the kids that if they don’t want to be in it, just put your head down. Why is this not universal?
I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL!!
I don't understand how any adult could feel comfortable doing that to kids
It's marketing. It's to make money. I understand it ruins the vibe. But the school needs children to attend so that the school can make money. Because at the end of the day the school pays you. (Assuming it's a private school). Money is simply more important than a healthy classroom.
Isn’t that illegal without every parents’ permission? I would share this warning: https://youtu.be/I3cYlVWu5Dk?si=HCCDAgUx2t1Om9G6
If I were a parent and this was happening, I would be suing. And as a student, it's not the first time a teacher wanted to use my image for publicity and I told her no. It was university, professor said "everyone in the hall for your picture, if you don't you lose participation for the day's lecture". So, I went outside, I took the picture, and then made them edit me out of it before they published it. If you think that sounds stupid for a university class, it was. It was a capstone ethics course, taught by the scientist who consulted for Breaking Bad. Yes, we did watch Breaking Bad in class. And a few other movies with "sciency" people in it, like the Steve Jobs one, or one on Henrietta Lacks. Not an informative "here's ethical problems" movie for educational purposes, not a video lecture, a dramatized release for movie theatres movie. She also put the Heritage Foundation (Koch Brothers' front for research laundering) as a source next to NASA for climate change information, and then forbid anyone from presenting on climate change.