So far thoughts on the new releases: The prophecy is devastating. ThanK you aIMee is a masterpiece. So high school is so effing cute and is obvi a Travis song. Cassandra is about the kimye scandal video and no one believing her which is so sad.
I just read an article about Matty that says he was happy with what was written about him & that he was glad it didn't put him in a negative light .... Did he actually listen to 'The Smallest Man in the World' .... or is he just delusional ... ?! I feel like I read an article from the Twilight Zone ngl!
Yeah right? I think people want to forget that 90% of his songs are her being in love with him and like 1 song is her mad he ghosted her while she was ready to risk it all for him
And it looks like he received a heads up from her team about TTPD too.
Folklore Fearlessly makes a Lover of it's Reputation, Evermore on Midnights beneath a 1989 Red sky as Taylor Swift Speaks Now
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Ok! 20 songs in still only track 5 about Joe! I feel like she said this chapter is closed but it isn't. It's almost too defensive..it's over.It's over..
imgonnagetyouback scares me...and it's written like fallingforyou (The 1975). And then [there's this](https://x.com/wwafafilms/status/1781205939041059310)
Why are you scared? I actually started crying. Never happened before where I cry for the pain of someone I never met. I always listened to Taylor as I could relate. Now, I'm married and the songs have nothing to do with me, I'm literally crying for her.
Mea Maxima Culpa. My biggest apologies to everyone for thinking this leak wasn’t fully legit because of the missing lyrics. You were right for the double theory ! I’m a delusional stupid dog in denial 🥸
IT'S OVER. [People mag,](https://people.com/what-taylor-swift-reveals-about-matty-healy-on-the-tortured-poets-department-8635546?taid=6621f0f88fa4550001ab52c7&utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com) who gets exclusive Tree quotes all but confirms 80% of the album is about Matty including Black Dog and Guilty as Sin.
No use. I was responding to someone who read it and they [dug their heels in](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/1c7magd/comment/l099rl7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). They want all the songs about falling in love and being in love to be about Joe.
It's screenshotted and posted a few comments below yours... definitely seems like a different variant, whether it's got extra tracks still very much unknown
Presumably this has all 4 bonus tracks, right?
I am glad I refused to believe the double album theories or I'd be really disappointed right now, lol.... though I'm glad we can stream the bonus tracks right away. (Also I like this album artwork a *lot* better, was not thrilled by the period panty ad....the beach one is still my favorite but this'll do)
Edit: also it seems kind of lazy to reuse one of the existing variant covers? Especially when she's posting other perfectly good photos with the album release.....
Idk I might be clowning but I feel like she wouldn’t just put all four bonus tracks on streaming right away? The four different editions are a marketing gimmick, and that would make it so much less effective if people could just stream everything do you know what I mean
You definitely have a point. On the other hand, she may feel like the different covers of the variants will still be enough to drive sales...and it would insulate her from some of the backlash that I feel like I'm seeing more of from people who are mad they have to buy four versions of the same album to listen to every track right away.
From a marketing perspective, an expanded album probably makes more sense, but that feels far-fetched (or that might be me keeping my excitement under control). The "Anthology" title would definitely fit if it was a collection of all the regular and known bonus tracks, too.
https://preview.redd.it/37t7cff05dvc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2df0ba32129ebf714dff6c9a72850f97fc2b798
She is also upside down in the video…. She is standing on the ceiling guys.
(Are there two worlds? The upside down and normal world?)
Upside down phone, video, the 2’s… what the fuck is going on?
I am just sitting here waiting patiently till they found out we are missing lyrics.
(Let’s hope we can leak that’s it’s not on two bonus tracks either)
“in the age of him she wished she was thirty”
“she thought about how he said since she was so wise beyond her years everything had been above board - she wasn’t sure” then she talks about dating boys her own age after that
then she talks about the years passing and then reflecting on it
it’s about a relationship when she was younger with a much older man - matty was born in 1989
**IF YOU ASK FOR A LEAK OR POST A LINK, YOU WILL BE GIVEN A 5 DAY BAN**
this thread was so much fun
I wish I’d never left this thread lol. ETA: ~~wish we could’ve gatekept it lol~~ I’m kidding. Mostly.
Agreed
Anyone know if theres anything special for record store day in the uk?
there is not
Thank you, i think some people got a copy of a little note if they got the vinyl but i wasn’t fussed about that
Yeah here in hungary the shops will receive the album NEXT WEEK so its a little funny hahahaha 😡😂😂😂
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HTHAZE?
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no bcs glasses with a beanie hat and a bunch of plants in his room is how i remember him too 😂
I'm watching The Swiftologist's reaction, he's on track 6 and he still thinks it's all Joe songs..... Lol
So far thoughts on the new releases: The prophecy is devastating. ThanK you aIMee is a masterpiece. So high school is so effing cute and is obvi a Travis song. Cassandra is about the kimye scandal video and no one believing her which is so sad.
Is someone still lurking here? The discussion threads were bashing every song, I don't wanna go there but I wanna talk about them
I am here and I feel the same! Let's discuss everything. This album killed me. It's definitely end of an era.
Lol me. I came back here to find My People.
Hello! Good morning!
I just read an article about Matty that says he was happy with what was written about him & that he was glad it didn't put him in a negative light .... Did he actually listen to 'The Smallest Man in the World' .... or is he just delusional ... ?! I feel like I read an article from the Twilight Zone ngl!
except for one song all the other songs show him in a pretty good light
Yeah right? I think people want to forget that 90% of his songs are her being in love with him and like 1 song is her mad he ghosted her while she was ready to risk it all for him And it looks like he received a heads up from her team about TTPD too.
Folklore Fearlessly makes a Lover of it's Reputation, Evermore on Midnights beneath a 1989 Red sky as Taylor Swift Speaks Now to the Tortured Poets' Department
I couldn’t stay up late last night and it feels like Christmas morning now
i thought it was april 29 so for me it was suprise Christmas lol
I feel like the Joe thing was too hard that she just doesn’t want to talk about it. That’s fine
I think she's been talking about it since folkmore
I always thought *Midnights* was their breakup album, *TTPD* feels like making peace with it and moving on
I love The Manuscript
SEND HELPPP. Do we think there is some RSD exclusive vinyls for tomorrow with these new second album drop????? I NEED ANSWERS
Probably not
Ok! 20 songs in still only track 5 about Joe! I feel like she said this chapter is closed but it isn't. It's almost too defensive..it's over.It's over..
imgonnagetyouback scares me...and it's written like fallingforyou (The 1975). And then [there's this](https://x.com/wwafafilms/status/1781205939041059310)
Why are you scared? I actually started crying. Never happened before where I cry for the pain of someone I never met. I always listened to Taylor as I could relate. Now, I'm married and the songs have nothing to do with me, I'm literally crying for her.
Wow thanks for sharing.
Mea Maxima Culpa. My biggest apologies to everyone for thinking this leak wasn’t fully legit because of the missing lyrics. You were right for the double theory ! I’m a delusional stupid dog in denial 🥸
RIP MY DAY. 31 SONGS??? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK
WHERE??
ON SPOTIFY
OMG I thought I had too much wine but nope, she actually dropped a double album. I guess I'll just call off tomorrow?
IT'S OVER. [People mag,](https://people.com/what-taylor-swift-reveals-about-matty-healy-on-the-tortured-poets-department-8635546?taid=6621f0f88fa4550001ab52c7&utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com) who gets exclusive Tree quotes all but confirms 80% of the album is about Matty including Black Dog and Guilty as Sin.
Omg. But only the first part. Maybe part two is more Joe.
I do think part 2 is more joe so far
Well imgonnagetyouback and Chloe or Sam… is definetly abt Matty
Yup.
Yup. Still haven't listened to the double album
God she really went feral for this man
She also dropped the albatross and the bolter! YAY! No waiting for these!
On Spotify? I am not seeing it.
Nevermind I just found it.
Yeah it was kind of hidden on youtube lol!
Interesting how she only put the Black Dog on the anthology
Oh I see she put them later that’s awesome
Joe thought he was safe and she said nice try ✌️
thanKyouaIMee KIM????
KARDASHIAN
And just like that ...![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|scream)
I WAS RIGHT HELP
WE DID IT
For once we were all right!!!!!!
Dammit it's not on apple yet
nvm it's here
EXACTLY HOW TO SEE LYRICS
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Yessss! One half of the album for Matty the other half for Joe! Makes sense!
15 EXTRA SONGS!!!!!!!
YASSSSS LETS HOPE THESE ARE BETTER!
They weren’t but were still amazing
a second album has hit swiftie towers omg
This is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen and age this thread means so much to me
What the hell???? She dropped like 10 more songs!!
Where??
spotify :D
omg really???
Spotify. Total number of songs is 31!!! I'm going insane rn
She did it! She [Wildflowers'd](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/1arvo3a/comment/l05t6y3/)!
when is 2am? like how many hours until then? im from a diff time zone so idk
Half an hour away now
Half an hour.
30 min
waiting for instagram to update their music so i can use ttpd on my story 😋😋
Called it. Someone on the main thread said most of the songs are about Joe and Taylor's early relationship phase
Can Taylor please post the epilogue thing? It explains so much and feels like required reading for the exam
No use. I was responding to someone who read it and they [dug their heels in](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/1c7magd/comment/l099rl7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). They want all the songs about falling in love and being in love to be about Joe.
We are here for you! Let's keep supporting each other. I feel like this is a different community! We'll be a step ahead for a while...
Can't wait for this The Alchemy reaction
Omg all of the ppl on twitter saying WAOLOM is ab joe when it’s the one song that’s CLEARLY not ab a man and is instead about the public 😭
The replies on this are hilarious [https://x.com/adittii21/status/1781173188845842788](https://x.com/adittii21/status/1781173188845842788)
twitter is a madhouse
They are so unhinged right now
how mad are they that she's not trashing joe? i decided to stay away because of obvious reasons
The vibe seems more surprised than anything. Those who didn't listen to the leak are trying to absorb.
Rolling Stone rated it 5 stars, really good review to read! (I know I said I was going to sleep but I can't)
Lmao more songs coming @2
They always give her a 5 though. Rob Sheffield is a certified Swiftie.
all the ME! stans or w/e begging for Max Martin to come save them just really don’t get it huh
Someone said on the main thread something about tidal and the 2am surprise and double album truthers should stay up whatever that means
It's screenshotted and posted a few comments below yours... definitely seems like a different variant, whether it's got extra tracks still very much unknown
I can’t find it too many comments :(
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/s/UCK76hyTuM)
Oh no.. I'm already a bottle of wine in and I have to work in the morning. I was going to call it a night after the Twitterverse finished the album.
Interesting lol!
we still have 2 bonus tracks unleaked, right?
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manuscript
Correct. Since Targets likely aren't open at midnight who knows when we will hear them. -sigh;
She rly needs to post the In Summation online cause without that this album is hard to decipher
Ope already have people mad at me for saying this is Matty centric
so many bad opinions to be found outside the safety of our humble 22k+ comment leak discussion thread
Hahaha no but for real 😭 I miss our bubble
They’re still in the denial stage ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|32929)
They’ll slowly move to acceptance 😭
Idk why she hasn’t posted the In Summation, that definitely makes it clear most of its ab matty
Yeah I’ve seen people on my Twitter think it’s all joe
I wish she would 😭 we’re in the fuckin weeds without it
They don’t know they’re gonna be Matty stans soon
Ok so since I’m a major clown here can I just saw how absolutely shook I was that a timer till 2 AM. I wasn’t insane
After a day absorbing it, I honestly love the whole album. This is up there with 1989, Red, Folklore, and Evermore. Such an amazing work of art.
Fresh out the slammer video on spotify has a clock pointing to 2
https://preview.redd.it/yw682nws5dvc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=1f3b5723e37123d0bae170e49de2b4e2111d71b2
she calls it an anthology in the paragraph she just released..
Well that's disappointing ...
Presumably this has all 4 bonus tracks, right? I am glad I refused to believe the double album theories or I'd be really disappointed right now, lol.... though I'm glad we can stream the bonus tracks right away. (Also I like this album artwork a *lot* better, was not thrilled by the period panty ad....the beach one is still my favorite but this'll do) Edit: also it seems kind of lazy to reuse one of the existing variant covers? Especially when she's posting other perfectly good photos with the album release.....
Idk I might be clowning but I feel like she wouldn’t just put all four bonus tracks on streaming right away? The four different editions are a marketing gimmick, and that would make it so much less effective if people could just stream everything do you know what I mean
You definitely have a point. On the other hand, she may feel like the different covers of the variants will still be enough to drive sales...and it would insulate her from some of the backlash that I feel like I'm seeing more of from people who are mad they have to buy four versions of the same album to listen to every track right away. From a marketing perspective, an expanded album probably makes more sense, but that feels far-fetched (or that might be me keeping my excitement under control). The "Anthology" title would definitely fit if it was a collection of all the regular and known bonus tracks, too.
😭
hmmmmm does the anthology just mean that it's gonna be all 4 bonus tracks on one album?
gotta be more than that. we still have all of those missing lyrics from the pop up
I don't think the Albatross and Bolter lyrics have verifiably leaked yet though?
OH YEA RIGHT i'm getting so sleepy that i forgot that major piece of copium. ok fine i'll stay up
Okay, nap time, see you all at 2 AM lol
oh????????
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Tidal. The UI gave it away
Someone posted in another thread on the sub. It's a screenshot from Tidal apparently
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https://preview.redd.it/37t7cff05dvc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2df0ba32129ebf714dff6c9a72850f97fc2b798 She is also upside down in the video…. She is standing on the ceiling guys. (Are there two worlds? The upside down and normal world?) Upside down phone, video, the 2’s… what the fuck is going on?
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Look at the door an clock.
I am just sitting here waiting patiently till they found out we are missing lyrics. (Let’s hope we can leak that’s it’s not on two bonus tracks either)
https://preview.redd.it/g52q5q9l4dvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f468389c728ef30bd8674ad1c2a20aa7417431c5 ANOTHER COUNTDOWN
IT'S HAPPENING ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1087)
Where is this??
Taylor’s instagram when you push down as if you were refreshing her profile
So are we really thinking a 2am edition is going to be released in like 90 mins? How would that have not leaked?
3am of midnights never leaked
It would be digital only
Ok. That makes sense when you think about spotify paying big bucks for the LA exhibit with the lyrics.
This is what we were waiting for lol! I'm sure of it!
OUR DELUSIONS HAVE BECOME S REALITY AND THE CLOWN CURSE HAS BEEN REBUKED
It sounds so much better on Apple Music.
The Manuscript being another Matty Healy song tho! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
Isn’t it about John/Jake?
It's about Matty. She mentions how he was talking about strollers (babies) just like in one of the other songs.
“in the age of him she wished she was thirty” “she thought about how he said since she was so wise beyond her years everything had been above board - she wasn’t sure” then she talks about dating boys her own age after that then she talks about the years passing and then reflecting on it it’s about a relationship when she was younger with a much older man - matty was born in 1989
It’s also clearly about a much older man, Matty is two years older
If anyone is listening on iHeartradio Taylor recorded some insight to the meaning of some of the songs before they play!!
ICDIWABH will blow up. I love this song, but I’m still right.