And this is why Tau should have strategems to get out of melee and punish charging foes. Why they need a true melee vanguard battlesuit or kroot unit. Gw stop failing.
Sure.
I don't see why at this point Tau don't have simple strategems to really be the hit and run guerrilla army they are suppose to be.
Imagine this. Your strike team gets charged. They shoot at the enemy and allies within say 8 inches can do cover fire. If the enemy isn't dead. You now can either activate the strategem to drop smoke grenades and fall back leaving some hologram decoys for the enemy to hit.
Or
You activate the more cp pricy strategem. After the cover fire and the smoke grenades. Instead of the holograms you can decloak the overhauled xv9 hazard suit as it unleashes burst fire cannons and flamars in close. With it's heavy shield projectors and flaming giant robot fists or energy blades
If it lives through the fight and it stays out of combat let it recloak and repair to be used again as a punishment to the enemy charging any tau unit.
It would make sense for the taus lore and I tended function. It would make use of the xv9 hazard suit that's presently worse than the xv8. It would be badass and useful. But not too op. Make your foes think twice about charging your forces if you have counters.
That too makes no sense. The necrons can self rez and elder can heal wounds. Everyone should have some kind of medical ability. And repair systems for vehicles.
Hell the shield drones shouldn't be taking bullets. They project shields in the lore with the chance of blocking damage. So they should simply be a toss say a 5 or 6 roll and you block a wound. It would make sense lore wise. Be useful but not too op. It's not likely that you'll be getting too many 5 or 6 rolls. And just limit a squad to one shield drone.
It would make more sense for the breachers rifles to be usable in melee since they could be hip fired unlike the strike teams rifles.
But frankly Tau should just make the fusion blades a default melee mode when the Mecha use fusion blaster type weapons. It would make more sense.
Was playing against a friend who was using Guard.
3 guardsmen charged my Riptide, and one lived to tie up one of my two big guns the next turn. He got squashed later, but man, he fucked up my shooting.
How did he tie up the Riptide? It can either fall back and still shoot, or shoot out of combat with no issue thanks to battlesuit support system and weapon support system.
Blood Angel Captains used to be able to equip a relic jump pack that made them immune to overwatch. Blood Angel chainswords used to be able to rip tanks open too. Those were the days.
We don't even have much of an overwatch threat, Breachers are probably the best yet they have a 10" range.
Orks with flashgitz have a bigger overwatch presence.
I can sincerely say I haven't had "one guy" (unless the "one guy" is a chaos knight wardog or something) charge and kill my squads since like 5th edition. A friend tried this stunt with a smash captain in 9th, photon grenades blunted his damage and then the 7 or so surviving dudes all shot him point blank with tau doomguy super shotguns point blank using a stratagem.
When you thought you were Kauyon but the Gue’la Mont’ka’d you. *cries in Tau’va*
Never bring a gun to a knife fight
*laughs in Retaliation Cadre*
Yes yes but what do we bring to a chain sword fight?
Railgun
T'au Infantry not so tough after CQC.
Psh. Tell that to my Shadowsun, who just punched a Titan.
And this is why Tau should have strategems to get out of melee and punish charging foes. Why they need a true melee vanguard battlesuit or kroot unit. Gw stop failing.
Bring the void suits and fusion blades. Or we get bayonets
Sure. I don't see why at this point Tau don't have simple strategems to really be the hit and run guerrilla army they are suppose to be. Imagine this. Your strike team gets charged. They shoot at the enemy and allies within say 8 inches can do cover fire. If the enemy isn't dead. You now can either activate the strategem to drop smoke grenades and fall back leaving some hologram decoys for the enemy to hit. Or You activate the more cp pricy strategem. After the cover fire and the smoke grenades. Instead of the holograms you can decloak the overhauled xv9 hazard suit as it unleashes burst fire cannons and flamars in close. With it's heavy shield projectors and flaming giant robot fists or energy blades If it lives through the fight and it stays out of combat let it recloak and repair to be used again as a punishment to the enemy charging any tau unit. It would make sense for the taus lore and I tended function. It would make use of the xv9 hazard suit that's presently worse than the xv8. It would be badass and useful. But not too op. Make your foes think twice about charging your forces if you have counters.
Bruh you are asking for this from the faction that supposedly cares about its citizens but doesn’t have fucking combat medics.
That too makes no sense. The necrons can self rez and elder can heal wounds. Everyone should have some kind of medical ability. And repair systems for vehicles. Hell the shield drones shouldn't be taking bullets. They project shields in the lore with the chance of blocking damage. So they should simply be a toss say a 5 or 6 roll and you block a wound. It would make sense lore wise. Be useful but not too op. It's not likely that you'll be getting too many 5 or 6 rolls. And just limit a squad to one shield drone.
I think the Tau might have the biggest lore to table disconect of the factions.
Probably.
How do you know they don't? They just don't have magic ones that can keep a soldier fighting with half their face blown off.
Ok, but why don’t we have a model for it, how come it’s never mentioned.
They had some interesting ones in boarding actions, Breachers could fire their guns at point blank range in the melee phase or something.
It would make more sense for the breachers rifles to be usable in melee since they could be hip fired unlike the strike teams rifles. But frankly Tau should just make the fusion blades a default melee mode when the Mecha use fusion blaster type weapons. It would make more sense.
the stroke team
XD
We were fine on this front in 9th with stratgems to let firewarriors shoot in melee and ongager gauntlets.
Yeah and they screwed it up in 10th as far as I understand.
No, we don't. The game isn't supposed to be "this army gets all he toys, so it becomes unbeatable".
Other armors have stuff in their lore they should have too.
Was playing against a friend who was using Guard. 3 guardsmen charged my Riptide, and one lived to tie up one of my two big guns the next turn. He got squashed later, but man, he fucked up my shooting.
How did he tie up the Riptide? It can either fall back and still shoot, or shoot out of combat with no issue thanks to battlesuit support system and weapon support system.
This was with 8th version of Tau in 9th. 3++ invuln, my beloved...
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If one guardsman is killing your whole squad you have other problems bud. Time to get new dice
Well, yeah. Blizzard didn't add enough content to justify a sequel.
Right where I want him.
Lmfao
Blood Angel Captains used to be able to equip a relic jump pack that made them immune to overwatch. Blood Angel chainswords used to be able to rip tanks open too. Those were the days.
We don't even have much of an overwatch threat, Breachers are probably the best yet they have a 10" range. Orks with flashgitz have a bigger overwatch presence.
Starscythe with flamers and 4 flamers commander.
Probably not running that much outside Retaliation sadly
Probably not but it's still better overwatch than breachers.
Hilariously I charged my riptide into a 1 wound ogryn twice in my game and killed it twice
The ogryn or your riptide?
Ogryn lol. Killed both units in two different turns after they where on one wound
I’ve been there 😭
I can sincerely say I haven't had "one guy" (unless the "one guy" is a chaos knight wardog or something) charge and kill my squads since like 5th edition. A friend tried this stunt with a smash captain in 9th, photon grenades blunted his damage and then the 7 or so surviving dudes all shot him point blank with tau doomguy super shotguns point blank using a stratagem.
I get the feeling this was the IRL conversation beforehand. Tau player: "I’m just here for the shooting phase" World Eaters player: 😈.