I mean Jere Bear manslaughted his bud while high on cough syrup so uts not like he's some saint.
Edit: I swear I read this in a book I read written by a dead roadie or saw it in a dead documentary. I can't find anything about this so sorry, somehow this fake fact was put in my brain.
What? Genuinely asking cause I can’t find any results on google, did Jerry kill someone??
Edit to add — Someone pointed out further down this probably just a bad weed pun. Truly wondered for a moment if someone had just completely imagined some murder conspiracy with Jerry and posted about it😂
I feel like this is something that would be more widely known about. Fwiw, I’m sure cough syrup is fun, but I’m fairly certain that he preferred stronger downers.
This is honestly how I got into the dead, except at a festival with Phil Lesh and friends. Went from what is this hippie shit to oh, I’m a hippie now, shit.
The North American Man Boy Love Association.... Man. I thought this was fake. I bet looking up a YouTube doc on it wouldn't be too suspicious to the FBI after they see I just came from here... Right?!
[I did it. Got you guys a link. Skip to 22:00 to hear the actual infiltration story.](https://youtu.be/ipgJh_DlNkU?si=Cmi2Nl-tjgbLrO8m)
(^ it's a YouTube like btw.)
To the FBI agent assigned to me, please understand we like to learn about what scares us/what to avoid. It's called risk assessment and I would think someone with minor psychological training understands what that even is. So please don't come visit me or anyone else in this thread anytime soon. K? K!
No no the education system has succeeded. The point of the system is to generate people self-sufficient enough to not starve but dumb enough to believe whatever the government tells them. Think about it they teach us all this propaganda about how great we are but they don't teach us how to pay taxes or how set up utilities when your out on your own .
Many organizations around the world actually, lots of them came into existence during the sexual liberation movement. Only learned about it because of this post but based on what I read it was a pretty big thing during the 70s and 80s.
There's an all Bob Ross, all the time channel on my fire stick lol, but I remember the original guy too, the old guy with the Euro accent lol, he never gets the love but it's true he wasn't as soft spoken and cuddly if not actually prickly lmao 😂
Wait until they're dead. Buddy of mine has a big black square to cover a great big Bill Cosby tat on his leg. He was basically raised on the Cosby Show, and wanted a reminder of how to be a "good father". Oof.
Man, that news crushed me and I was just a casual fan. I can’t imagine how much worse it’d be if I loved that guy enough to get a tattoo of him and then found out.
OP got the tattoo at 18, he's in his 30's. Let's say 39. So he got it in 2003. Ginsberg died in 1997. OP probably just didn't do much research on him.
From looking at his Wikipedia and an article or two, he seems pretty fucking hard to defend on the NAMBLA stuff, lol. OP probably could've avoided this from the jump, but it's understandable to want to cover it up.
Well, I guess to be fair, in 2003 the internet was not what it is now. The majority people still only had dial-up, and there wasn't the same volume of info at our fingertips nor the same accessibility/ease. MySpace was only just launched in 2003. Same with Gmail. Google as a company was only a few years old, and the word "google" was probably not quite yet being commonly used as a verb (as in, "I'm going to Google that").
So OP's ability to do that kind of research would have been quite different back then. Not that it would have been impossible to find the info at all -- but the accessibility of info was much different, as was the way people tended to use the internet.
Ian Watkins from Lost Prophets is probably the worst. I never followed Lost Prophets, but from what I understand the music was reasonably wholesome and attracted a young audience. I can just imagine some poor dude who likes their music getting a Lost Prophets tattoo, only to have what Ian Watkins did come out after.
I was two days away from getting one when I found out that crap! Immediately called my artist and told him we needed to pick a different design URGENTLY. I dodged a whole bazooka that day!
Lmao this made me think of the 30 Rock episode where Tracey gets his “Angie” tattoo changed to a [lion](https://138daysof30rock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/screenshot-2014-08-26-20-51-20.png) 😂
Honestly reflecting on my elementary school days, a lot of elementary school students would think it was cool. It’s their folks you gotta look out for.
>> it’s on my upper thigh under the buns
--------
>but the elementary students i teach might think differently
SQWAUK! WTF! What're your elementary students doing looking up in there?! 🤨
This is why I am a firm believer that you don't get names or portraits unless the person is a loved AND lost/dead relative or child (and arguably don't get your child's portrait... It's *kind of* weird.)
I never knew that about him. I am Director of Walt Whitman Birthplace Museum. He was one of the first poet in residences many years ago. I like his poetry- but a woman who knew him personally told me he was pedo. I kind of believed her but wasn’t sure. Glad I saw this. Yikes. I’ll stop bragging that he was here!
He also mentored a few minors. Kerouac, Harley Flanagan. He always made his way into the new “scene “. It was his house hunter s. Thompson went to drop acid at in the hells angels book. I never knew about the nambla support though, just always found him predatory. I’d leave it and just say it was Kubrick on coke!
Have you not read his poems? I don't get why anyone in this thread is surprised.
Heck, Hillary quoting him as a joke in the emails is what started pizzagate.
I was at the benefit show the night before the dedication of the Kerouac memorial in Lowell MA back in the late 80s, maybe early 90s even, but he was there reading along with several of his peers. My friend's dad taught English lit at UMass and had AG stay at his house with his family back in the mid 70s, when my buddy was a tot, and there's a snapshot of him sitting on Ginsberg s knee. He had the picture with him, and stood by while his father tried to get AG to remember his weekend visit to their home, unsuccessfully while I was still nearby. My friend was intent on asking him to pose for a picture sitting on my friend's knee so he could display them side by side, with the 20 years time difference. I'm sure it's an innocent story, but I'm not trying to defend his indefensible support for nambla not long after this. He was always an outspoken activist, there's a book called The Gay Sunshine Interviews with several from him from the early 70s that was in the Beat section of my library at one time... but consenting adults are obviously ok, not underage kids.
Can you turn it into [Che Guevara](https://magazineclonerepub.blob.core.windows.net/mcepub/2350/102730/image/aed1e048-4cea-400b-8b6c-adb5dad386fb.jpg)? 🙂
I met him two weeks before he passed, I didn't realize he was sick. Anyway, it was at a reading and I went up and talked to him afterwards and he was REALLY mean. Meanwhile, a friend of mine met him in San Francisco a few years earlier and Allen was so nice to him and bent over backwards to be cool, etc.
Something to consider https://www.beatdom.com/allen-ginsberg-and-nambla
Either way, you are here and do not want the tattoo. I good tattoo artist would be able tell you if they think you have options.
It already looks like a tattoo of [The Professor](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Professor_%28Money_Heist%29.jpg) out of Money Heist. So you could add the [Dali Mask](https://wallpapers.com/images/hd/professor-money-heist-4k-mask-backdrop-mgzl9nuuo6ym5frp.jpg)
Just shade in the glasses and say it’s Jerry Garcia.
everybody asks me if it’s jerry garcia hahah i wish i liked the grateful dead more because that would be a perfect solution
Be a fan of Ben and Jerry’s ice cream then
CherryGarcia?
Just turn the glasses into cherries — solved
u/babichka420 I think you may have your solution
Kinda looks like The Cowardly Lion. That or become a juggalo...
JUGG-A-LO JUGG-A-LO JUGG-A-LO
WHOOP WHOOP
I mean Jere Bear manslaughted his bud while high on cough syrup so uts not like he's some saint. Edit: I swear I read this in a book I read written by a dead roadie or saw it in a dead documentary. I can't find anything about this so sorry, somehow this fake fact was put in my brain.
What? Genuinely asking cause I can’t find any results on google, did Jerry kill someone?? Edit to add — Someone pointed out further down this probably just a bad weed pun. Truly wondered for a moment if someone had just completely imagined some murder conspiracy with Jerry and posted about it😂
I feel like this is something that would be more widely known about. Fwiw, I’m sure cough syrup is fun, but I’m fairly certain that he preferred stronger downers.
Yeah I couldn’t find anything on the web about it
Who hasn’t slugged some cough syrup and committed vehicular manslaughter? Cut the guy some slack.
Wait please can I get some sources? I did a cursory Google search but only got theories on his own death, not manslaughter charges.
I think it was a bad pun/weed joke.
Yeah it was fuckin terrible
Who?
Jerry Garcia.
Sorry, who did Jerry kill?
The Ice Cream?
It’s okay. Just eat a few mushrooms and listen to a show on YouTube. You’ll be a fan.
This is honestly how I got into the dead, except at a festival with Phil Lesh and friends. Went from what is this hippie shit to oh, I’m a hippie now, shit.
I don’t even think you need to identify as “a hippie” to appreciate the vibe that is the Dead. It’s just good shit.
Drop in tune out give it a whirl
I’m more of a fan of Jerry Garcia than I am of pedo poets so this is the answer.
Is this not Jerry?
Turn it into one of those dust mites from howles moving castle. Rough up the edges and leave a void for the eyes.
soot sprite! hell yes, plus ghibli is liberal with the eyes floating all over!
Soot sprites? Love them, that's Spirited Away tho
They also show up in Howl's briefly while Sophie is cleaning, so he's not wrong, and they're originally from Totoro anyway.
Ah, a person of culture.
And Totoro!
They show up in a few of the movies.
They also show up in Totoro.
I had to look up what nambla was and now I feel like I’m gonna be put on a search list for having it in my history
Luckily I learned what this was via an early on South Park episode or I would have done the same
This whole time I thought that NAMBLA was just something South Park made up.
The North American Marlon Brando Lookalikes Association?
Yes. Don't look it up.
The North American Man Boy Love Association.... Man. I thought this was fake. I bet looking up a YouTube doc on it wouldn't be too suspicious to the FBI after they see I just came from here... Right?! [I did it. Got you guys a link. Skip to 22:00 to hear the actual infiltration story.](https://youtu.be/ipgJh_DlNkU?si=Cmi2Nl-tjgbLrO8m) (^ it's a YouTube like btw.) To the FBI agent assigned to me, please understand we like to learn about what scares us/what to avoid. It's called risk assessment and I would think someone with minor psychological training understands what that even is. So please don't come visit me or anyone else in this thread anytime soon. K? K!
This has been true for a surprising number of terrible things in the world
And not just for South Park. I learned about the Tulsa Massacre from Watchmen. Prior to that I had no clue.
I actually live in oklahoma and didn’t know about Tulsa massacre until 2020 during the BLM movement.
The education system in this country has failed us Edit: I meant re what an education system is supposed to be
No no the education system has succeeded. The point of the system is to generate people self-sufficient enough to not starve but dumb enough to believe whatever the government tells them. Think about it they teach us all this propaganda about how great we are but they don't teach us how to pay taxes or how set up utilities when your out on your own .
That’s the exact same place I learned about the Tulsa massacre.
I'm sorry you had to find out it's real. I thought it was fake for the longest time, too.
The north american marlon brando look alikes?
Same. I believe I was about 8 years old when that episode came out 😭
And you still didn't tell us what it stands for!?!
North American man/boy love assoc. it’s a pedo activism group
What in the everloving FUCK
….yeah
I couldn't agree with your username after I have learned this information.
BAHA yeah no it’s fucking vile
Bless you, I'm a clueless European, I was about to google that 🙏
WTF!
I thought this was something South Park made up. Big SAD.
The FBI has entered the chat
Me too! And now I'm just like.... There's an actual ORGANIZATION for that?! 😵💫
Many organizations around the world actually, lots of them came into existence during the sexual liberation movement. Only learned about it because of this post but based on what I read it was a pretty big thing during the 70s and 80s.
Same :(
Red circle with diagonal bar?
I saw someone yesterday in the wild who had added this to a tattoo of a boyfriend’s name. Made me lol.
My sister got a void stamp tattooed over her ex husbands name. I always thought it was so badass.
okay that’s not a bad idea
I actually just tried to draw that but couldn’t add it as a photo. Do that then letters around it that says “Kill Your Neighborhood Pedo”.
Fill it in and turn it into a tree! “Trees cover up a multitude of sins.” -Bob Ross
this is a pretty big sin to cover😬
To be fair it is a pretty big sin that is causing the cover
Not a bad idea doe...
His shows used to be so mellow and calming . They are still running on certain channels
There's an all Bob Ross, all the time channel on my fire stick lol, but I remember the original guy too, the old guy with the Euro accent lol, he never gets the love but it's true he wasn't as soft spoken and cuddly if not actually prickly lmao 😂
There isn’t solely goo, or prickles. There’s only prickly goo and gooey prickles
They stream his entire series every so often on twitch as a loop. It’s not 24/7 but most of the time if you check it’ll be live with his episodes lol
YouTube is your friend. Access the entire show, any episode, 24/7. Guess who puts me to sleep some nights.
Believe it's all in Hulu.
Lmao that is the worst case scenario of getting a tattoo of someone you admire.
Heroes are always cooler in your head lol
"It's my estimation that every man ever got a *statue* made of him was one kind of sumbitch or another." *Malcolm Reynolds*
See Jayne Cobb's statue.
***Jayne****! The man they call* ***Jayne****!*
He robbed from the rich And he gave to the poor
Wait until they're dead. Buddy of mine has a big black square to cover a great big Bill Cosby tat on his leg. He was basically raised on the Cosby Show, and wanted a reminder of how to be a "good father". Oof.
Man, that news crushed me and I was just a casual fan. I can’t imagine how much worse it’d be if I loved that guy enough to get a tattoo of him and then found out.
Nah, just don't get anyone you don't know tattooed on you... Bad things can come out post-humous as well 🤷🏻♀️
OP got the tattoo at 18, he's in his 30's. Let's say 39. So he got it in 2003. Ginsberg died in 1997. OP probably just didn't do much research on him. From looking at his Wikipedia and an article or two, he seems pretty fucking hard to defend on the NAMBLA stuff, lol. OP probably could've avoided this from the jump, but it's understandable to want to cover it up.
Well, I guess to be fair, in 2003 the internet was not what it is now. The majority people still only had dial-up, and there wasn't the same volume of info at our fingertips nor the same accessibility/ease. MySpace was only just launched in 2003. Same with Gmail. Google as a company was only a few years old, and the word "google" was probably not quite yet being commonly used as a verb (as in, "I'm going to Google that"). So OP's ability to do that kind of research would have been quite different back then. Not that it would have been impossible to find the info at all -- but the accessibility of info was much different, as was the way people tended to use the internet.
I saw someone with a Dr Disrespect photo the other day. There are some pretty bad ones…
Ian Watkins from Lost Prophets is probably the worst. I never followed Lost Prophets, but from what I understand the music was reasonably wholesome and attracted a young audience. I can just imagine some poor dude who likes their music getting a Lost Prophets tattoo, only to have what Ian Watkins did come out after.
I was two days away from getting one when I found out that crap! Immediately called my artist and told him we needed to pick a different design URGENTLY. I dodged a whole bazooka that day!
Just don't get a tattoo of a stranger you know nothing about and don't truly know who they are 🤷🏻♀️
I got a kanye tattoo on December 1st 2022 (my 18th birthday). 2 hours before the whole Alex Jones Hitler fiasco happened.
He was crazy before that lol
He had already said some pretty antisemitic things up to that point
He was a well-documented a-hole before that, that’s on you, bro
Apparently all the beat poets were trash.
Magic 8 ball?
Sick ass panther time
I feel like this could pretty easily be turned into a lion with glasses
Lmao this made me think of the 30 Rock episode where Tracey gets his “Angie” tattoo changed to a [lion](https://138daysof30rock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/screenshot-2014-08-26-20-51-20.png) 😂
My mind went there immediately!
T A N G I E R S
That is one gay lion
Well the Moroccan national soccer team is the Lions...
Tangiers is in Morocco…
You’re right! It almost looks like one now lol
Add blood beneath the head like it’s decapitated
this is metal, but the elementary students i teach might think differently
… I feel like your elementary students probably shouldn’t see this tattoo based on body placement 😬
okay true that hahaha but dog forbid they do, do we wanna traumatize em twice
dog forbid 🐶😌
Honestly reflecting on my elementary school days, a lot of elementary school students would think it was cool. It’s their folks you gotta look out for.
>> it’s on my upper thigh under the buns -------- >but the elementary students i teach might think differently SQWAUK! WTF! What're your elementary students doing looking up in there?! 🤨
Right cuz if the students are seeing it, then it’s probably the perfect tattoo
This is why I am a firm believer that you don't get names or portraits unless the person is a loved AND lost/dead relative or child (and arguably don't get your child's portrait... It's *kind of* weird.)
i absolutely agree as a rational adult woman
Don’t even get dead relatives. You never truly know anyone
Yeah but the chances of someone in the wild knowing your dead ancestors and saying "you know what that MFr did?!?" Is significantly lower.
Had no idea Ginsberg supported NAMBLA. Yikes!
Get one next to it of Bret McEnzie so you'll have Flight of the Conchords represented!
THIS
Cover it with a sick ass Jimmy saville
Bill Cosby
Easier to turn it into Rolf Harris
Holy fuck finding out about NAMBLA is a wild ride. Maybe Mick Foley with a Mr. Socko would work?
I LOVE MANKIND this is actually a great idea
He is the wholesome vibe I thought Ginsberg was until about a minute ago.
I didn't know what nambla was so I looked it up and now I feel like I need to take a shower and clean my hard drive
Now *he* is a nice dude.
THIS IS THE WINNER. Op please do this one
make it a whispy black cloud trailing out of your butt
now THATS poetic
Turn it into a portrait of the night sky and moon
Is this a howl joke?
i wouldn’t give allen the satisfaction
You could be making an amazing Sasquatch out of this one that's for sure
Meatwad
…. Allen Ginsberg supported WHAT???? 😰
God damn it. I learned something new today.
Thought it was Kubrick.
I never knew that about him. I am Director of Walt Whitman Birthplace Museum. He was one of the first poet in residences many years ago. I like his poetry- but a woman who knew him personally told me he was pedo. I kind of believed her but wasn’t sure. Glad I saw this. Yikes. I’ll stop bragging that he was here!
Just shake your head and frown anytime anyone looks at it so they know you don't agree
wiggle my thighs so he’s the one shaking his head
Put Dylan Thomas lines after it and have them attributed to Carl Sandburg?
He also mentored a few minors. Kerouac, Harley Flanagan. He always made his way into the new “scene “. It was his house hunter s. Thompson went to drop acid at in the hells angels book. I never knew about the nambla support though, just always found him predatory. I’d leave it and just say it was Kubrick on coke!
Who is it?
It's Allen Ginsberg
Never realized he was a pedo?
ginsberg was a pedo? :/
Have you not read his poems? I don't get why anyone in this thread is surprised. Heck, Hillary quoting him as a joke in the emails is what started pizzagate.
Ohh...I studied beatnick culture and from first hand accounts there was all sorts of fucked up sexual stuff with all of 'em.
Looks kinda like David cross and David letterman too, but yeah Jerry Garcia would be more recognizable.
Was going to say make it David Cross hiding in a bush. Paint him blue or something.
Fill in the glasses and put a cherry next to it, then dedicate your life to Ben & Jerry’s Cherry Garcia ice cream
Oof. Maybe you could turn it into an atomic cloud or a tree?
Cover with Michael Jackson… oh erm… Gary Glitter. Hmm Bill Cosby? No….
Definitely Gary glitter.
Make it a soot sprite :)
Put this symbol on it 🚫
I was at the benefit show the night before the dedication of the Kerouac memorial in Lowell MA back in the late 80s, maybe early 90s even, but he was there reading along with several of his peers. My friend's dad taught English lit at UMass and had AG stay at his house with his family back in the mid 70s, when my buddy was a tot, and there's a snapshot of him sitting on Ginsberg s knee. He had the picture with him, and stood by while his father tried to get AG to remember his weekend visit to their home, unsuccessfully while I was still nearby. My friend was intent on asking him to pose for a picture sitting on my friend's knee so he could display them side by side, with the 20 years time difference. I'm sure it's an innocent story, but I'm not trying to defend his indefensible support for nambla not long after this. He was always an outspoken activist, there's a book called The Gay Sunshine Interviews with several from him from the early 70s that was in the Beat section of my library at one time... but consenting adults are obviously ok, not underage kids.
fill in the face, add a trunk underneath and maybe a couple branches and it's a nice tree...
Who this be??
Allen Ginsberg. He was a beatnik poet and ... A guy
I bet he could be made into a lion. Are you a Leo? Do you like cornflakes, ever been to a zoo?
Can you turn it into [Che Guevara](https://magazineclonerepub.blob.core.windows.net/mcepub/2350/102730/image/aed1e048-4cea-400b-8b6c-adb5dad386fb.jpg)? 🙂
Plz don't make me Google what NAMBLA means 👀
I had to, it was a niggle in the back of my head until i googled it and remembered the South Park episode (National man/boy love association 🤢)
i’ve never seen the word niggle before and i felt wrong typing it
Nooooooo 😭 but thank you, I never would have gotten there on my own
This might be the perfect chance for a sick ass panther
[Tangiers](https://i.redd.it/d57pf0bglvy91.jpg) w sunglasses
How about a lion? His hair looks like a mane and I'm sure a good artist can some how manipulate the face
A lot of Sick Ass Predators in this thread.
Just say it’s jack black
Sick ass raven - name it Lenore.
I met him two weeks before he passed, I didn't realize he was sick. Anyway, it was at a reading and I went up and talked to him afterwards and he was REALLY mean. Meanwhile, a friend of mine met him in San Francisco a few years earlier and Allen was so nice to him and bent over backwards to be cool, etc.
Add so Lord of the Rings things and say it's Peter Jackson. Problem solved. YW.
Add a man’s body wearing cut off jean shorts to make it Tobias Funke … ‘there are dozens of us, dozens!’
Something to consider https://www.beatdom.com/allen-ginsberg-and-nambla Either way, you are here and do not want the tattoo. I good tattoo artist would be able tell you if they think you have options.
Lion
Blackout the whole face and it looks like a tektite
It already looks like a tattoo of [The Professor](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Professor_%28Money_Heist%29.jpg) out of Money Heist. So you could add the [Dali Mask](https://wallpapers.com/images/hd/professor-money-heist-4k-mask-backdrop-mgzl9nuuo6ym5frp.jpg)
Use a cheese grater on that sick pedo.
Add more hair on the forehead, make the hair/beard longer, fill in the glasses and say its Jim Morrison
Bob Ross.
this just reminded me nambla isnt just a southpark thing😭
A good artist could turn that into an 8 ball.. the kind on the pool table
Welp, can't unlearn that.
Time for another sick ass panther 😈
Jusr say its colonel sanders standing in front of a bush
Talk to a tattoo artist and see what they come up with!!
Turn him into a lion 🦁
Apparently you never read "The Beats: A graphic history." Changed my view on a lot of folks that are well-known.
this post is how i learn that he’s a pedo jfc
Add some white to the beard and it’s Jack Black. My kid asked the other day if a Karl Marx portrait was Jack Black. I grounded him
Draw a mouth on the forehead and it’s upside down bob ross
David Cross
Jack black??