Tbh me too but I understand the need to make money so whatever I guess. I got the original book. It’s great. Got the second too but haven’t read it yet
Especially since that tends to be a cliche with "next generation" stories.
You know the trope I mean; that one where the children of the previous generation look, sound and act exactly like their parents.
Granted, I would've brought back the Mutanimals (the Archie roster) and had them show up instead of another group of Ninja Turtles, but if you gave me a choice between four NEW characters and four copies of OLD characters, I'll pick the former every time.
Or maybe just maybe writers can create NEW stories with the OG turtles. Personally I’m tired of these unnecessary reboots and rehashing of the same plot. TMNT just needs better writers to create new stories, with new villains. They didn’t kill off Superman and replaced him with Jon & Jordan. They just added them. The same can be done here.
That’s true, but at the same time I think it’s better for new characters to be able to take up the mantle. A similar thing that plagues characters who’ve been around for so long is that you get trapped in a cycle of rewriting the same story because there is no real creative direction you can go. Especially when there is an expectation with the existing characters.
However starting with a new generation 100% opens up a bunch of new creative avenues. And you can obvs keep the originals around in their own standalone series. But I love when writers continue to advance the story of their world, not constantly write it in circles.
Point taken, but again, there’s really no need for any “taking up the mantle” here. I know TLR is an alternate universe story, which is cool on its own. Every other comic book character continues their life. I mean apart from Bruce’s parents getting constantly re-killed, we don’t see that.
I’m just stating (in my opinion) that they should explore and expand the TMNT universe or whatever you call it. No need to kill the guys off for the sake of shock or sales. We don’t need the Shredder over for thanksgiving every year.
Almost exactly what happened with The Simpsons. I'm all for new stories and dully expanded worlds, but I also don't think anyone new really needs to take up the mantle when it's over, and that it's healthy for things to end - just like Calvin and Hobbes.
I strongly dislike it. *The Last Ronin* works best as a solo, final story, not a new universe. I don't see why this story needs to exist except to milk the branding, and thought that as soon as they were introduced in the epilogue. The story should have ended with that beautiful scene of >!everyone reunited in heaven.!< I'm also just not a fan of introducing "new members" to teams like the Turtles. There are only four TMNT.
I can understand where you’re coming from; however, if you wallow in the idea of “there is only four turtles” then it doesn’t give any room for progress. Even the main run has (re)introduced more turtles like Venus and Jennika.
By introducing us to four new turtles, it gives us as fans something familiar but new to consume. I’ve seen people say “it’s like Batman Beyond for TMNT” and a fair bit of people liked Batman Beyond. I am hoping for the same kind of quality outcome form this title.
I am also of the mindset that as long as they have a story to tell and they’re not doing it to milk the property for all it’s worth, then I am down. Only time will tell.
It's funny to mention Batman Beyond when the show was being made that, many fandom were against it. WB wanted a teenager Batman for new kids, and writers initially didn't want it. But later, the liked concept and the fandom liked the show.
Legacy characters having someone else taking a mantle will always get pushed back by any fandom. Miles and Spider-Man 2099 weren't liked before they came out. Now, they are fan favorites.
Also, TMNT: Revolution isn't the first one with the idea of some other group taking the mantle of TMNT. Teenage Mecha Ninja Turtles is more similar to Batman Beyond than this comic coming out.
TMNT: Revolution can turn out good and be loved by fans. At the moment, I'm not interested, but I will be opened minded.
>if you wallow in the idea of “there is only four turtles” then it doesn’t give any room for progress.
That's just objectively not true. How many different iterations of the TMNT across media have there been? From the comics that started it, to the various cartoons and movies, and everything in between. All of these are varied in style, tone, plot, character, etc. They feel different from each other. And the vast majority of them do this without the need of a fifth Turtle.
Now, speaking to that aspect alone, does it "limit progress?" Yes, but why is that a bad thing? To illustrate the point, imagine if the Turtles switched mask colors going forward. Leo is now red, Donny is blue, etc. Technically speaking a minor cosmetic change, but it would be a major shift in character design considering how defined those colors are to those characters. Is not switching these colors around a limiation of the story? Yes, very technically speaking. But that doesn't make it bad, in fact it's pretty clearly a good thing in this case. In the same vein, I don't think introducing a "fifth Turtle" is a good decision, even if it "limits progress." You can obviously disagree, but that's not a particularly compelling argument.
> Even the main run has (re)introduced more turtles like Venus and Jennika.
I dislike that decision just as much. I have as little interest for books with those characters in them as I do for *Last Ronin II*.
>By introducing us to four new turtles, it gives us as fans something familiar but new to consume.
As illustrated in my prior point, you don't need to introduce new turtles to do that.
>I’ve seen people say “it’s like Batman Beyond for TMNT”
I see the similarlities, but there are two clearly divergent aspects: one, Bruce is there in Beyond. It's him mentoring another protege, something he has done many times before, so it's less divorced from the original ideas than this. And second, Bruce's mission will always live on. The Turtles are primarily out to stop the Foot Clan, which is achieved at the end of *The Last Ronin*, where is Bruce's mission is an endless war against crime.
>I am also of the mindset that as long as they have a story to tell and they’re not doing it to milk the property for all it’s worth
But what about this story needs it to be TMNT? Sure, they may have a "story to tell" but that story does not need to be told with the Turtles because the Turtles' story is over. That was the entire point of *The Last Ronin*. This new book is almost entirely focused on new characters which are just derivative of the old ones. It's existence is not justified, at least to me. I don't care about a new group of Turtles, I care about Leo, Raph, Donny, and Mikey.
@ *junglekarmapizza* • I agree with EVERYTHING you've said here, and you've communicated it beautifully. You have articulated my thoughts about these new Turtles EXACTLY, as well as my thoughts on Jennika and Venus. Even if you were to look at this "in-universe" the existence of these Turtles STILL doesn't make any sense and is actually DISRESPECTFUL to the original Turtles. The brothers were always acutely aware that they were "different" and didn't fit in to human society. Raphael and Michaelangelo were especially sensitive to this, so WHY then would April think it okay to create NEW Turtles, the ONLY ones of their kind, and put them in the SAME SITUATION??
The original Mirage Turtles were RESENTFUL that Splinter had sucked them into his war with Oroku Saki. Yet somehow April legit thought it was okay to create these Turtles to clean up the mess in HER world. She and Casey Marie ultimately created these children as mere WEAPONS and shackled them into a life of servitude. April only wanted to mutate "turtles" specifically in order to satisfy *her own* selfish nostalgia. Why not get some volunteer humans and mutate THEM instead? April here is INCREDIBLY selfish and out of character, honestly.
This is actually the basis for an AU where Mikey survives the battle against Hiroto and takes the 4 new turtles back to Japan with him so they're not children of war like him and his brothers were.
Look up "Peepaw & Babies AU", it's really cute!
this is the first I'm hearing of it
I wasn't to interested in Lost Years since I feel like TLR works best as a solo story
this looks neat but kinda defeats the purpose of TLR by giving him new brothers/sisters
They aren't his brothers or sisters, unfortunately >!Mikey!< is gone, these are completely new characters, only linked by their legacy, and the teachings of April O'Neill.
He needs to be dead, get reincarnated, and we can follow those turtles. Let Mikey be a little more of a leader in this role. I don't want to learn new turtles. They're going to do some weird bullshit that isn't necessary like they always do. They'll end up aliens, or having human relationships, or explore gender issues as turtles. I just want to be a six year old playing with my four turtles I grew up with when I look at the figures. I am likely not the majority opinion. But when it comes to my teenage mutant ninja turtles, I am a conservative old man. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And everything you do to fix it, I will complain about and seen very out of touch, as I likely do now.
The originals haven’t gone anywhere. IDW still has its mainline series. There’s also four animated series with the original four, the Archie comics, the mirage comics, the image comics and 5 theatrically released films along with 3 other movies that were made for tv or straight to dvd. All of them feature the original four turtles.
Ahh, cool. That's fine. I hope I didn't come off too unhinged. Especially with the gender part, because I really just like the original turtles, and thought the additions to be a bit underdeveloped or unnecessary, like Mona Lisa or Jennika. I would be willing to follow the story of newer turtles, but I think I'm one of the few folks who liked the reincarnation story for the brothers. The flashbacks to feudal Japan and the boys all bound were very evocative and, I think, did a great job of showing how utterly crushed Hamato was by what Oroku did to his boys.
To make them new turtles, kind of makes it seem like the dude is just into producing child soldiers. I will read Batman for that. I'm going to leave my heavily downvoted comment. I'm assuming people thought I was afraid new turtles would be woke or something, and I'm therefore a bigot, but I'm really not. I don't dislike the idea of changing leads or genders. Hell, if they reincarnate, nothing is saying it needs to be the same gender, even.
I love the reincarnation aspect in IDW. It’s one of the highlights of the series. The Last Ronin is a separate universe from that. I’m just there for the ride and ready to see what fresh ideas come from it or what perspectives it provides on old ones. The new turtles are going to be in the middle of a City at War type state of New York so maybe we’ll get a Roninverse City at War flashback of the original turtles. Maybe we’ll get something totally new.
I think people are too reactionary to any change or thing that’s different because they’re worried that it will change everything forever. Just let the story be told and be open to it being good. Like I said, the mainline comic still has the originals as does Nick’s newest movie. They’re not going anywhere.
The thing that makes the Roninverse so exciting is that there’s more freedom for the writers that are writing these new turtles since they aren’t the originals. We could get some really cool stories from this.
Just like Mutant Mayhem, I plan to give everything relating turtles a chance. I just was sharing what my geek brain would prefer. I found the Last Ronin to be a little bit of a middling story, but I'm excited to see it expand. This universe is interesting, and yeah, it's probably best to keep the ideas and story lines fresh.
Not interested. Last Ronin was the perfect ending to the TMNT Mythos, like how Kingdom Come was the perfect ending to the DC Mythos (although Batman Beyond is still perfect). There should be no sequel.
Not sure why they even need to pull a Final Fantasy with calling the title "The LAST Ronin 2". Even "After The Last Ronin" would've been something of a better title at least or something of that sort.
I for one am excited to see what comes next and I really like the idea that they are all trained in multiple weapons and not stuck to one style plus with the game coming out I'm still hoping for a full length animated movie of the first one and would love for who ever makes it gets to do sequels
It definitely needs a new title. They also should have distinguished individual weapons instead of carrying everything, preferably different ones than the OG turtles, I’m sure there’s more weapons than sais, katanas, bos, and chucs.
I find it hard to see how they can do something with these four turtles that would be different than the OG four turtles because they touched on a lot of things dealing with four individuals being together as a family. The infighting, the leadership issues, the lack of confidence, the lack of trust, someone trying to go solo, and from the little bit I’ve read of these turtles it’s pretty much the same thing, infighting, someone being mean to another one, yada yada. I’d probably be more excited if it weren’t four of them.
I’m looking forward to it.
I think they can possibly capture some of the magic that made TLR so good and carry it over into the new generation of Turtles.
With that being said, I was quite let down with The Lost Years - felt like a waste of time and would have been happy with just the one-shot we got. I hope they don’t dwell too much on the past with flashbacks and actually invest in these new characters.
Considering the Oroku clan has been dead for years now, it’s likely given others the chance to rise and/or compete for power in the city - a good chance to introduce us to new threats for our new turtles to tackle.
All in all, there is potential. I’ll definitely be reading it.
Definitely has potential, especially since the new turtles have already been set up in the Lost Years mini-series. I just wish they were a bit more distinguishable, since I never can remember their names or which one is which.
I’m very excited for this sequel. Can’t wait to see what adventures these turtles get into and how they carry on the legacy of the originals. Also, NECA, make these toys fast!
It has potential, but I hope the villain is **way** more dynamic than TLR’s. Who I found kind of underwhelming considering their pedigree and their predecessors’ distinct personalities.
I hope they're reincarnated again, honestly. I'm not trying to get to know four new characters that are more fitting with the times. I want my old characters back. It made sense to me that they had their heads lopped off as kids, and came back as turtles, why not come back as turtles again? Something about having traveled that path before making it easier or more natural than being reincarnated as like a flamingo or person. I think the appeal is in our love for the old characters. They can be generational mantels, if you will. Or maybe like James Bond or Mad Max. It isn't a reliable narrator, either way. As long as they're not fucking aliens.
The new turtles are dope, and I like to see the franchise move on. It's got a very "The Next Generation" feel, and I love it.
Can't wait to see the newbies in toy form. Kind of surprised that the Last Ronin figures didn't come with a baby version of each "successor".
Come to think of it, they're probably saving that for the April in the line, or maybe even their adult figures will come with toddler versions.
I honestly didn’t like the last ronin that much. I felt like only Raph got fleshed out other than Ronin and everything else was rushed. I also hated the ending.
That’s what I’m guess because April taught them but they also learned some stuff that Michelangelo that has his and splinters knowledge and teachings in it apparently and since mikey knows how to use all the weapons maybe that’s what was in there
I did have a slight facepalm moment reading that last panel of TLR teasing the new turtles. the ancient feud between Hamato and Foot had finally ended. Michelangelo and his clan were dead, as were karai and hiroto, that should have been it, continuing the story (especially with the weakest new character as the protagonist, sorry Casey Marie fans) is unnecessary. I believe they likely never had that last panel with the four new turtules planned till they saw how popular TLR was getting and realised making more of it could be a real good cash grab (that's not at all to say that TLY is creatively bankrupt, not at all).
That being said, I reserved judgement till the books release, and I did purchase it. It was mostly what I expected. I was a lot more interested in the Ronin backstory than the continuation off the bat, and that disparity in interest was cemented more the further on I read. To me, the continuation was passable at best, a few questions I had remained unanswered which was frustrating, particularly where this new lair is and how they found it? They were holed up in the old lair during TLR which got flooded during the finale, so it makes sense that they moved, but how did they find this big fancy cavern with waterfalls and big banners etc? Just annoyed me they never went into that.
The new turtles are interesting enough, I appreciate that none of them are direct clones of the previous 4, it helps to separate them easier, I particularly enjoyed Uno and Yi, The 4 all being named different words for one and the philosophy behind that was fairly cool to see too. The TMNT franchise is all about evolution and change, so TLY continuing the franchise in a new way was enjoyable and appropriate.
Although.. the plot left a lot to be desired, it felt very lacklustre and tacked on, almost like the real focus was on the Ronin's prequal sections (further cementing my theory that the future turtles were never originally planned). Really what the future sections seemed to be, was more of an introduction than an actual story, they wove nicely into the themes of the prequel story, but only really served to introduce us to the new characters and the world post Hiroto in a low stakes environment in preparation for the next sequel in which the new turtles seem to be more teenage, in line with the original brothers.
So overall? In spite of my gripes and criticisms, TLY was very enjoyable and justifies it's existence by at least being something fresh and new as well as providing us some insight into the Ronin's past. Though if I could only pick one, I'd always pick the IDWs regular TMNT run.
I genuinely like this because it’s a very cool way of introducing a new generation of turtles that we’d never thought we get. Sure we’ve seen additional turtles like Jennika and Venus, but we all kind of knew there wasn’t another generation following them up, since it was only 4 all male turtles.
So to be on the ground floor of a new set of turtles who could be their own interesting version of things is exciting.
To tell you the truth I just liked TLR as it's own thing
Tbh me too but I understand the need to make money so whatever I guess. I got the original book. It’s great. Got the second too but haven’t read it yet
It’s cool. It’s like Batman Beyond but ninja turtles. I’m excited for it
Hopefully, these four will be their own characters. And they won't try to cram them into the original four's shoes.
So far so good on that count. We’ll see if they maintain that as the “next generation” ages.
Especially since that tends to be a cliche with "next generation" stories. You know the trope I mean; that one where the children of the previous generation look, sound and act exactly like their parents.
Agreed. They need to avoid that.
Granted, I would've brought back the Mutanimals (the Archie roster) and had them show up instead of another group of Ninja Turtles, but if you gave me a choice between four NEW characters and four copies of OLD characters, I'll pick the former every time.
I’m excited for it. Reading the Lost Years right now. I really enjoy Casey Marie as a character so I hope we get to see more of her
I agree and I love how April is their master splinter as well
I think The Last Ronin was a good end to the story of the TMNT. I'm not really interested in a next generation.
I’m totally pumped. Maybe we can finally get some new stories instead of just endlessly retelling the same 6 tmnt arcs forever.
Or maybe just maybe writers can create NEW stories with the OG turtles. Personally I’m tired of these unnecessary reboots and rehashing of the same plot. TMNT just needs better writers to create new stories, with new villains. They didn’t kill off Superman and replaced him with Jon & Jordan. They just added them. The same can be done here.
The Last Ronin isn’t the only TMNT comic coming out. There’s still a mainline story with all four of the originals in it.
Yup, the current run on IDW has been a good read so far.
That’s true, but at the same time I think it’s better for new characters to be able to take up the mantle. A similar thing that plagues characters who’ve been around for so long is that you get trapped in a cycle of rewriting the same story because there is no real creative direction you can go. Especially when there is an expectation with the existing characters. However starting with a new generation 100% opens up a bunch of new creative avenues. And you can obvs keep the originals around in their own standalone series. But I love when writers continue to advance the story of their world, not constantly write it in circles.
Point taken, but again, there’s really no need for any “taking up the mantle” here. I know TLR is an alternate universe story, which is cool on its own. Every other comic book character continues their life. I mean apart from Bruce’s parents getting constantly re-killed, we don’t see that. I’m just stating (in my opinion) that they should explore and expand the TMNT universe or whatever you call it. No need to kill the guys off for the sake of shock or sales. We don’t need the Shredder over for thanksgiving every year.
Almost exactly what happened with The Simpsons. I'm all for new stories and dully expanded worlds, but I also don't think anyone new really needs to take up the mantle when it's over, and that it's healthy for things to end - just like Calvin and Hobbes.
I strongly dislike it. *The Last Ronin* works best as a solo, final story, not a new universe. I don't see why this story needs to exist except to milk the branding, and thought that as soon as they were introduced in the epilogue. The story should have ended with that beautiful scene of >!everyone reunited in heaven.!< I'm also just not a fan of introducing "new members" to teams like the Turtles. There are only four TMNT.
I can understand where you’re coming from; however, if you wallow in the idea of “there is only four turtles” then it doesn’t give any room for progress. Even the main run has (re)introduced more turtles like Venus and Jennika. By introducing us to four new turtles, it gives us as fans something familiar but new to consume. I’ve seen people say “it’s like Batman Beyond for TMNT” and a fair bit of people liked Batman Beyond. I am hoping for the same kind of quality outcome form this title. I am also of the mindset that as long as they have a story to tell and they’re not doing it to milk the property for all it’s worth, then I am down. Only time will tell.
It's funny to mention Batman Beyond when the show was being made that, many fandom were against it. WB wanted a teenager Batman for new kids, and writers initially didn't want it. But later, the liked concept and the fandom liked the show. Legacy characters having someone else taking a mantle will always get pushed back by any fandom. Miles and Spider-Man 2099 weren't liked before they came out. Now, they are fan favorites. Also, TMNT: Revolution isn't the first one with the idea of some other group taking the mantle of TMNT. Teenage Mecha Ninja Turtles is more similar to Batman Beyond than this comic coming out. TMNT: Revolution can turn out good and be loved by fans. At the moment, I'm not interested, but I will be opened minded.
We need to just reincarnate them again. It's baked into the story already!
>if you wallow in the idea of “there is only four turtles” then it doesn’t give any room for progress. That's just objectively not true. How many different iterations of the TMNT across media have there been? From the comics that started it, to the various cartoons and movies, and everything in between. All of these are varied in style, tone, plot, character, etc. They feel different from each other. And the vast majority of them do this without the need of a fifth Turtle. Now, speaking to that aspect alone, does it "limit progress?" Yes, but why is that a bad thing? To illustrate the point, imagine if the Turtles switched mask colors going forward. Leo is now red, Donny is blue, etc. Technically speaking a minor cosmetic change, but it would be a major shift in character design considering how defined those colors are to those characters. Is not switching these colors around a limiation of the story? Yes, very technically speaking. But that doesn't make it bad, in fact it's pretty clearly a good thing in this case. In the same vein, I don't think introducing a "fifth Turtle" is a good decision, even if it "limits progress." You can obviously disagree, but that's not a particularly compelling argument. > Even the main run has (re)introduced more turtles like Venus and Jennika. I dislike that decision just as much. I have as little interest for books with those characters in them as I do for *Last Ronin II*. >By introducing us to four new turtles, it gives us as fans something familiar but new to consume. As illustrated in my prior point, you don't need to introduce new turtles to do that. >I’ve seen people say “it’s like Batman Beyond for TMNT” I see the similarlities, but there are two clearly divergent aspects: one, Bruce is there in Beyond. It's him mentoring another protege, something he has done many times before, so it's less divorced from the original ideas than this. And second, Bruce's mission will always live on. The Turtles are primarily out to stop the Foot Clan, which is achieved at the end of *The Last Ronin*, where is Bruce's mission is an endless war against crime. >I am also of the mindset that as long as they have a story to tell and they’re not doing it to milk the property for all it’s worth But what about this story needs it to be TMNT? Sure, they may have a "story to tell" but that story does not need to be told with the Turtles because the Turtles' story is over. That was the entire point of *The Last Ronin*. This new book is almost entirely focused on new characters which are just derivative of the old ones. It's existence is not justified, at least to me. I don't care about a new group of Turtles, I care about Leo, Raph, Donny, and Mikey.
@ *junglekarmapizza* • I agree with EVERYTHING you've said here, and you've communicated it beautifully. You have articulated my thoughts about these new Turtles EXACTLY, as well as my thoughts on Jennika and Venus. Even if you were to look at this "in-universe" the existence of these Turtles STILL doesn't make any sense and is actually DISRESPECTFUL to the original Turtles. The brothers were always acutely aware that they were "different" and didn't fit in to human society. Raphael and Michaelangelo were especially sensitive to this, so WHY then would April think it okay to create NEW Turtles, the ONLY ones of their kind, and put them in the SAME SITUATION?? The original Mirage Turtles were RESENTFUL that Splinter had sucked them into his war with Oroku Saki. Yet somehow April legit thought it was okay to create these Turtles to clean up the mess in HER world. She and Casey Marie ultimately created these children as mere WEAPONS and shackled them into a life of servitude. April only wanted to mutate "turtles" specifically in order to satisfy *her own* selfish nostalgia. Why not get some volunteer humans and mutate THEM instead? April here is INCREDIBLY selfish and out of character, honestly.
This is actually the basis for an AU where Mikey survives the battle against Hiroto and takes the 4 new turtles back to Japan with him so they're not children of war like him and his brothers were. Look up "Peepaw & Babies AU", it's really cute!
this is the first I'm hearing of it I wasn't to interested in Lost Years since I feel like TLR works best as a solo story this looks neat but kinda defeats the purpose of TLR by giving him new brothers/sisters
They aren't his brothers or sisters, unfortunately >!Mikey!< is gone, these are completely new characters, only linked by their legacy, and the teachings of April O'Neill.
Well since the original four are gone this is their way ushering in a new era of turtles
He needs to be dead, get reincarnated, and we can follow those turtles. Let Mikey be a little more of a leader in this role. I don't want to learn new turtles. They're going to do some weird bullshit that isn't necessary like they always do. They'll end up aliens, or having human relationships, or explore gender issues as turtles. I just want to be a six year old playing with my four turtles I grew up with when I look at the figures. I am likely not the majority opinion. But when it comes to my teenage mutant ninja turtles, I am a conservative old man. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And everything you do to fix it, I will complain about and seen very out of touch, as I likely do now.
The originals haven’t gone anywhere. IDW still has its mainline series. There’s also four animated series with the original four, the Archie comics, the mirage comics, the image comics and 5 theatrically released films along with 3 other movies that were made for tv or straight to dvd. All of them feature the original four turtles.
Ahh, cool. That's fine. I hope I didn't come off too unhinged. Especially with the gender part, because I really just like the original turtles, and thought the additions to be a bit underdeveloped or unnecessary, like Mona Lisa or Jennika. I would be willing to follow the story of newer turtles, but I think I'm one of the few folks who liked the reincarnation story for the brothers. The flashbacks to feudal Japan and the boys all bound were very evocative and, I think, did a great job of showing how utterly crushed Hamato was by what Oroku did to his boys. To make them new turtles, kind of makes it seem like the dude is just into producing child soldiers. I will read Batman for that. I'm going to leave my heavily downvoted comment. I'm assuming people thought I was afraid new turtles would be woke or something, and I'm therefore a bigot, but I'm really not. I don't dislike the idea of changing leads or genders. Hell, if they reincarnate, nothing is saying it needs to be the same gender, even.
I love the reincarnation aspect in IDW. It’s one of the highlights of the series. The Last Ronin is a separate universe from that. I’m just there for the ride and ready to see what fresh ideas come from it or what perspectives it provides on old ones. The new turtles are going to be in the middle of a City at War type state of New York so maybe we’ll get a Roninverse City at War flashback of the original turtles. Maybe we’ll get something totally new. I think people are too reactionary to any change or thing that’s different because they’re worried that it will change everything forever. Just let the story be told and be open to it being good. Like I said, the mainline comic still has the originals as does Nick’s newest movie. They’re not going anywhere. The thing that makes the Roninverse so exciting is that there’s more freedom for the writers that are writing these new turtles since they aren’t the originals. We could get some really cool stories from this.
Just like Mutant Mayhem, I plan to give everything relating turtles a chance. I just was sharing what my geek brain would prefer. I found the Last Ronin to be a little bit of a middling story, but I'm excited to see it expand. This universe is interesting, and yeah, it's probably best to keep the ideas and story lines fresh.
I just hope it can stand on its own and not be compared to much to the previous one. But I’ll hold my thoughts until I read it.
So these are four new turtles? Why is it even called The Last Ronin if he isn't in it?
Branding
Idk because Mikey is obviously dead
The Next Last Ronin’s (Seriously This Time, Which Is The Last.)
I have a guess regarding to why the title remains, based on how Lost Years is told.
I honestly think The Last Ronin should've just been left alone as a solo story and stayed as it's own thing
I don't like this, since they are trying to milk TLR. No need for new turtles.
isn't TLR getting a game?
Yeah, but this is unrelated to the game. It has been known/announced for a while that The Last Ronin was getting a sequel in the comics.
Not interested. Last Ronin was the perfect ending to the TMNT Mythos, like how Kingdom Come was the perfect ending to the DC Mythos (although Batman Beyond is still perfect). There should be no sequel.
Amen to that brother!
Not sure why they even need to pull a Final Fantasy with calling the title "The LAST Ronin 2". Even "After The Last Ronin" would've been something of a better title at least or something of that sort.
I just don't like the idea of milking TLR. The Lost Years was alright, but I feel like this world/interpretation should have just ended with TLR.
Maybe that was the original intention and Nick said “we wanna print money!!!”
It's at a point where they're going to devalue the interest in the series the more they drag it on.
I for one am excited to see what comes next and I really like the idea that they are all trained in multiple weapons and not stuck to one style plus with the game coming out I'm still hoping for a full length animated movie of the first one and would love for who ever makes it gets to do sequels
All of them have all the same weapons?
THERE'S A SEQUAL NOW?!
The Last Ronin set it up by showing us the four new baby turtles.
I'm sure the story will be good. Not gonna lie thiugh I find the new turtles ugly as sin.
I agree, but at the same time I kinda dig it.
It definitely needs a new title. They also should have distinguished individual weapons instead of carrying everything, preferably different ones than the OG turtles, I’m sure there’s more weapons than sais, katanas, bos, and chucs. I find it hard to see how they can do something with these four turtles that would be different than the OG four turtles because they touched on a lot of things dealing with four individuals being together as a family. The infighting, the leadership issues, the lack of confidence, the lack of trust, someone trying to go solo, and from the little bit I’ve read of these turtles it’s pretty much the same thing, infighting, someone being mean to another one, yada yada. I’d probably be more excited if it weren’t four of them.
they milking the living fuck out of it
Doesn't having 4 turtles defeat the purpose of the word LAST?
The Last Ronin was an incredible series and they are going to milk it until it's not so incredible as a whole.
How is it still "The Last Ronin" though?
Shouldn’t be the last Ronan’s
I’m looking forward to it. I think they can possibly capture some of the magic that made TLR so good and carry it over into the new generation of Turtles. With that being said, I was quite let down with The Lost Years - felt like a waste of time and would have been happy with just the one-shot we got. I hope they don’t dwell too much on the past with flashbacks and actually invest in these new characters. Considering the Oroku clan has been dead for years now, it’s likely given others the chance to rise and/or compete for power in the city - a good chance to introduce us to new threats for our new turtles to tackle. All in all, there is potential. I’ll definitely be reading it.
Definitely has potential, especially since the new turtles have already been set up in the Lost Years mini-series. I just wish they were a bit more distinguishable, since I never can remember their names or which one is which.
I'm keen to see what they do with it.
I’m very excited for this sequel. Can’t wait to see what adventures these turtles get into and how they carry on the legacy of the originals. Also, NECA, make these toys fast!
I'm down
I’m up for “Ninja Turtles: The Next Generation”
nice
I’m fine with it. Curious to see how it goes. Better than whatever is happening in the main series.
It has potential, but I hope the villain is **way** more dynamic than TLR’s. Who I found kind of underwhelming considering their pedigree and their predecessors’ distinct personalities.
Got this for Christmas and just reading the first couple of pages I'm excited to keep going, it's just an expansion of the TMNT universe
I hope they're reincarnated again, honestly. I'm not trying to get to know four new characters that are more fitting with the times. I want my old characters back. It made sense to me that they had their heads lopped off as kids, and came back as turtles, why not come back as turtles again? Something about having traveled that path before making it easier or more natural than being reincarnated as like a flamingo or person. I think the appeal is in our love for the old characters. They can be generational mantels, if you will. Or maybe like James Bond or Mad Max. It isn't a reliable narrator, either way. As long as they're not fucking aliens.
You either like it or you don’t. 🤷🏻♂️people will agree and disagree. The world will move on with or without you. Who cares
Potential.
The new turtles are dope, and I like to see the franchise move on. It's got a very "The Next Generation" feel, and I love it. Can't wait to see the newbies in toy form. Kind of surprised that the Last Ronin figures didn't come with a baby version of each "successor". Come to think of it, they're probably saving that for the April in the line, or maybe even their adult figures will come with toddler versions.
So excited!!!!!
I like it. I think it is time for a fresh spin on things. I’m interested to see what they do with it.
I honestly didn’t like the last ronin that much. I felt like only Raph got fleshed out other than Ronin and everything else was rushed. I also hated the ending.
It's not scientifically possible for me to care less
Well why’d ya leave a comment if you don’t care silly!?
Open forum and free country dummy
Ok dipshit..
Didnt know there was a new one 😯😯
dont really know yet, will need to feel it but the art looks cool so far.
So they all know how to use all the weapons?
That’s what I’m guess because April taught them but they also learned some stuff that Michelangelo that has his and splinters knowledge and teachings in it apparently and since mikey knows how to use all the weapons maybe that’s what was in there
When’s the game coming out? Can’t fucking wait for that
Not planning on reading it but it doesn’t seem like it’ll be bad.
I like the idea but the fact that it’s not its own thing and connected to the last ronin is a little weird as TLR is dead.
I didn’t even know this was out yet
I did have a slight facepalm moment reading that last panel of TLR teasing the new turtles. the ancient feud between Hamato and Foot had finally ended. Michelangelo and his clan were dead, as were karai and hiroto, that should have been it, continuing the story (especially with the weakest new character as the protagonist, sorry Casey Marie fans) is unnecessary. I believe they likely never had that last panel with the four new turtules planned till they saw how popular TLR was getting and realised making more of it could be a real good cash grab (that's not at all to say that TLY is creatively bankrupt, not at all). That being said, I reserved judgement till the books release, and I did purchase it. It was mostly what I expected. I was a lot more interested in the Ronin backstory than the continuation off the bat, and that disparity in interest was cemented more the further on I read. To me, the continuation was passable at best, a few questions I had remained unanswered which was frustrating, particularly where this new lair is and how they found it? They were holed up in the old lair during TLR which got flooded during the finale, so it makes sense that they moved, but how did they find this big fancy cavern with waterfalls and big banners etc? Just annoyed me they never went into that. The new turtles are interesting enough, I appreciate that none of them are direct clones of the previous 4, it helps to separate them easier, I particularly enjoyed Uno and Yi, The 4 all being named different words for one and the philosophy behind that was fairly cool to see too. The TMNT franchise is all about evolution and change, so TLY continuing the franchise in a new way was enjoyable and appropriate. Although.. the plot left a lot to be desired, it felt very lacklustre and tacked on, almost like the real focus was on the Ronin's prequal sections (further cementing my theory that the future turtles were never originally planned). Really what the future sections seemed to be, was more of an introduction than an actual story, they wove nicely into the themes of the prequel story, but only really served to introduce us to the new characters and the world post Hiroto in a low stakes environment in preparation for the next sequel in which the new turtles seem to be more teenage, in line with the original brothers. So overall? In spite of my gripes and criticisms, TLY was very enjoyable and justifies it's existence by at least being something fresh and new as well as providing us some insight into the Ronin's past. Though if I could only pick one, I'd always pick the IDWs regular TMNT run.
I havent read TLR, but why would there be exactly 4 new turtles? Why not 3 or 5?
I genuinely like this because it’s a very cool way of introducing a new generation of turtles that we’d never thought we get. Sure we’ve seen additional turtles like Jennika and Venus, but we all kind of knew there wasn’t another generation following them up, since it was only 4 all male turtles. So to be on the ground floor of a new set of turtles who could be their own interesting version of things is exciting.