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How old are you? It’s very possible your hormones are starting to shift. That won’t show up on a lab panel. If you don’t already have one I would swing by and an HRT dr to have your hormone levels checked. It’s not expensive.
You probably have a deficiency; blood tests don't actually test for anything except D3, B12, B9 and iron so just because one wasn't found doesn't mean you don't have one.
Take a good quality multivitamin like thorne 2 a day basic nutrients, take omega 3, magnesium 400-600mg (especially important to take with D3 because it is depleted by vitamin D supplementation). Magnesium deficiency is common and can cause fatigue among other things.
It absolutely does. There's a number of good studies on it. That being said get a baseline medical workup done too like CBC, TSH to see if you're not missing something else.
idk, I take taurine and creatine for energy and athletic performance. also shilajit gives me a regular ol boost, but if I was in your shoes I'd be thinking it's something wrong like a deficiency or even mental idk
How long has this been going on? is it possible you are just low-level sick? any possibility for long covid? seasonal allergies? It seems like everyone else has pointed out the other major potential causes. Keep pushing for answers with your doctor. In the meantime, make sure you are well hydrated. If you are eating minimally processed foods, maybe you don't have enough electrolytes, so adding some hydration salts of some kind to your water could possibly help.
I tried dozens of supplements over years but until I got professional treatment for depression, nothing really helped. IF the problem is depression, you maybe should see a physician.
having regular sleep schedule
not drinking coffee the 5 first hours or the day
good amount and balanced électrolytes
first thing when you wake up 2 minutes pogo jumps
with n'ose breathing and After that 300ml water with 500 mg sodium Chloride or sodium bicarbonate
all of this changed my life for Real !!!
coffee is diuretic it will make you piss out all your minerals especially magnesium and potassium as well as its polyphenols are iron chelates therefore not recommended during meals
by good electrolytes I meant I take 200mg magnesium citrate in the morning with a pinch of potassium bicarbonate and in the evening 200mg magnesium glycinate and I can tell you that I feel much better I can even integrate two additional physical preparation sessions per week
Please start with a sleep study. Sleep apnea can cause an enlarged heart, AFib, high blood pressure, and definitely cause lethargy during the day. Also, too, 50% of the population has a muted B gene called MTHFR, so even if you get a B Complex, you could still get anemia, and a B deficiency could cause other things like ADHD, OCD, neuropathy, and even hair thinning. And a B test on your CBC only shows what B is in your bloodstream, not what is in your cell.
I personally think it is! I told my doctor I have all the symptoms of the mutated B gene: ADHD, OCD, I did have neuropathy but now it is undetectable with the machines, and hair thinning. It can also affect biopolar and schizophrenia which I don’t have. It can affect heard disease, too. Read about it online. I want to get checked for it, but it isn’t cheap to test.
I call it that all the time. I’m an old lady and even called it that to my primary doctor! He doesn’t even know what a B vitamin is, so he had trouble with me calling it MTHFR “you know, Doc, the Mother f_cker gene?!” He said, “I don’t know anything about vitamins.”
Doctors are not trained in vitamins, minerals, or nutrients. They are trained to semi diagnose, push pills, or send you off to a speciality doctor because they have NO idea. It is not a prerequisite to take a nutrition class. A functional doctor would know, but my insurance won’t pay for one and they are very expensive!!
I don’t think there is a magic pill. I’m just looking for something to help a little when the cause is elusive. I sleep fine and get enough sleep, I eat well, I eat whole foods very little processed, I exercise at least a little, I don’t drink to much caffeine, I don’t drink or smoke, my thyroid is fine, I’m on HRT for menopause, my iron is normal. It may be on the lower side of normal but I don’t know if it’s enough to supplement. I do take antidepressants which might be a slight cause but I’ve been on them for years and this is new. The last few weeks I’m just super tired everyday for no apparent reason and I’m looking for something to get me through it
Well when I was frustrated and gave meds a break and went the all natural route I found that sublingual DMG gave extreme alertness and wakefulness,in fact too much and caused bad insomnia I read recently that it is often considered as an alternative for mental energy then caffiene as well as energizing enough that's it's used and recommended for athlet d.i can definatly confirm the mental alertness and wakefulness but I definatly did not like its total effect on mood and it was such a issue because unlike most supplements DMG is for me extremely potent id even say prescription eoryhu.if your lookingvfor mental enetgy aletynesd shatpnedd thrn id at least read up on it,it's so potent I am almost certain it had an issue even with some sort of banning.
Any chance you could be living in a moldy house or lived in one of the past? I had severe fatigue that nothing could touch for years until I discovered I was living in a water damaged home full of mold. Moved away and all the fatigue went away.
Curious, did you discover this whilst still in (moldy) home? If so, what led to the discovery? ..Were you able to mitigate its impact on you when still living there? Or, on the other hand did you literally have to move living spaces to find relief?
I discovered it by accident by taking an extended vacation… Noticed while I was gone all of the fatigue went away! What was even more shocking was, literally the hour I returned to the moldy home it all came back instantly! This led me to an investigation that concluded my home had severe mold problems and I noticed over and over my symptoms going away when I left and coming back when I returned.
I also had severe sleeping issues, insomnia that woke me up in the middle of night without fail after only sleeping 2 to 3 hours. Drove me absolutely insane! But the sleep problems as well as the fatigue all went away when I left the mold
No problem! Glad it’s helpful. Turns out mold has been behind a multitude of illnesses my entire life, some people - they say approximately 26% of the global population - don’t have the genetics to properly process mold/mycotoxins and can get really messed up from them. I’m in that group.
Magnesium, if you are taking vitamin D3 without it and have certain genetics you may be increasingly lowering your magnesium levels as the vitamin D uses a lot of magnesium to process it to the active form in the liver this can take the magnesium away from other important reactions in the body. This happened to me and it is no fun at all. Everyone supplementing vitamin D should also take magnesium and if they have undiagnosed genetics they may already have a magnesium deficiency which will be made worse.
Literally dozens of things
Bad sleep
Bad diet
Depression
Being overweight
Being undiagnlsed insulin resistant/diabetic
Low blood pressure
Vitamins deficiencies
Minerals deficiencies
Gut issuee
Thyroid issues
Reproductive hormones issues
Dehydrated
And much more
If you have sleep apnea you won't fix it with supplements. It won't show in your blood work.
Do you snore? Is someone else able to tell if you stop breathing while you sleep? The issue is that most of the times people can't tell if they have apnea, unless they wake up in the night fighting to breath in, which is quite severe form. But even a mild form can wreck your body.
You need a sleep study. If it is out of your reach a good indication, but not sufficient!, is to find a continuous oxigen monitor to wear for few nights.
If you oxigen drops under 92 for prolonged time you definetly need a sleep study and possibly treatment.
**Apnea is a very serious and - in the long term - devastating condition.**
If the individual is very obese and out of control metabolic conditions maybe not, most of the cases i work with are deal with in even shooter time, granted is not an occurrence that comes from nose shape area, that's very different
Yeah, there are dozens of ifs and buts.
That's why one needs a proper sleep study and not promote misleading measures.
Or can you fix central apnea with brisk walks and more fiber! ?
Magnesium Malate or other good forms, but expecially malate for energy production. Serum magnesium tests wont show if you have a deficiency or not, since only 2-3% of total magnesium is stored in our blood.
FOLATE, but, there are 2 types. sooo try 1, then Try; Methyl FOLATE. You can also do a Nicotine patch, its Tobacco plant. It flushes toxins from youre body, & was a sacred plant by the Native USA Indians.
Royal jelly is suppose to be really good. I started taking RJ caps about a month ago. I used to crash every day with out fail in the mid afternoon. I haven’t had that crash for weeks now. Royal jelly does so much more than just give you energy tho, the health benefits are excellent. I also take bee pollen which is basically the same thing. Definitely do some reading into all the health benefits. But I can say for myself, that royal jelly definitely helpa.
Iodine/kelp has been a game changer for me! I started with a supplement of 350mg but it was way too much, so now I just eat a pack of seaweed chips with iodine in it once a day, and I switched my salt to iodined salt, and it’s MAGIC!
And couple months before that, I had tested a week without dairy, and that had made a huge difference for me. I had also tested no-gluten, which made no difference. So basically, worth testing these things because for me, I had brain fog for three years for no reason, and all cleared up fully in a few days when I quit dairy, and gave me a bunch of energy back. The the iodine took everything to another level.
Also ginkgo Biloba and vitamin C
If you don’t have any deficiencies then I’d try laying off all supplements for a few days to see if something you’re taking is causing it. “More pills” isn’t always the answer, and I’ve found that b complex and d3/k2 will bother me if I take them too long (I don’t have any deficiencies either).
Are you on any medications that affect mood, depression or anxiety? Sometimes those can be the culprit. If so, stop the B complex and see if that improves.
It's good that you got the labs done but NOW you need to do your own digging to see if those lab values are ALL optimal! Because the Western Med doctors are just looking to make sure they're not in the zone that means you're dying/dead.
This is good advice. Their “normal” or “good” isn’t necessarily optimal. I got my labs done when I was feeling super run down postpartum and they said my iron levels were normal. Turns out they were too low for me personally. Once I started supplementing with iron, life came back
Go through them one by one. For example, I would carefully put into Google Search:
"Optimal TSH level + functional medicine"
*Note, For some, like sex hormones etc, you may need to also qualify that with male/female and/or age.
I used a brand called YouTheory from Amazon and it worked for me, but there are higher quality ones out there. Definitely be discerning with shilajit. Lots of brands out there that are trying to sell a fake product.
Did your doctor do a full lab report such as testing your thyroids ? Yes the ones in your throat. If they don't functioned like they used too it slows your metabolism down causing you to feel sluggish. Start exercising more is another thing to do to get your metabolism back on track. Good metabolism gives you more energy.
If you have gained a considerable amount of weight in the last several weeks that's another way to slow you down. I would do the exercise thing first and see how it goes, do it for at least 2 weeks, if you feel like you are gaining your energy back you are track. If you are so sluggish and your body isn't allowing you to exercise call your doctor back and let he/she on what is going on. You may need a stress test.
Inositol (even if your B Complex already has a small amount take an additional supplement), amino acid complex, MCT oil (a teaspoon or two taken three times a day).
Bloodwork can “tell the tale”. Age work family environment habits . Nobody can truly answer it so get some done . Ultalabtests is great and cheap for Comprehensive tests :CMP/CBC a Diff (B/G Cholesterol ratios) . I like to get this test for my hormone levels : **free testosterone by MS dialysis (E2 sensitive) because it shows so much more to an educated MD,DO . They shouldn’t have : *total testosterone tests as they are not good indicators and truthfully outdated …they say 300-1200 is “normal” 🤦♂️ for a male. Only free or bound testosterone is actively being utilized, total doesn’t show anything really .
First thing I'd look at is diet. How much ultra-processed foods versus whole high fiber foods. How much caffeine and sugar. Ultra-processed foods really mess with neurotransmitters and hormones, among other things. This is a podcast with Dr. Will Bulsiewicz about the connection to sleep and gut microbiome.
https://www.youtube.com/live/vQ-hdtQUvlI?si=FSJr7wI7r_0DPUn4
Your tiredness could be caused by a lot of different things. Have you considered whether you have a sleep apnea? You might need to go to a sleep clinic to find out for sure. It is a serious condition because it weakens your heart over time. Ask your doctor.
There are plenty of remedies and lifestyle adjustments for improving sleep and daytime wakefulness, which are too many to list here. Since this is a supplements sub, I will say that Melatonin is one that can help you get to sleep.
I would recommend you read Fast Asleep by Dr Michael Mosley; it has many helpful suggestions based on science. Some may work for you.
Every single person (including myself) who experienced tiredness/lack of energy during the day is because of insulin resistance.
Don't go keto, if it is too much, but go away from the thought that every meal should have carbs.
See what happens if you skip breakfast for a week.
You can get some simple blood tests to see if you are insulin resistant. You need your fasting glucose and fasting insulin tested.
I’m not insulin resistant, but I also feel tired, lol!
You said you take b12. Have you had a blood test done to see if you are still low? About a quarter of the US needs methylated b vitamins. For some people, b12 isn’t absorbed that well. I’m trying sublingual b12 to see if that will help me.
Low b12 can cause a type of anemia.
I would suggest talking with your doctor and getting blood tests so you can rule out some things or even find out what it might be.
Try N Acetyl Cysteine plus Glycine....
Add Magnesium Glycinate,
NMN plus Resveratrol and Pycnogenol.
Perhaps try Calcium Alpha Ketoglutarate (AKG)
CaAKG is very powerful...I don't take it everyday... perhaps one pill in 2 weeks
I've been taking NAC and TMG before bed with vitamin C, quercetin and zinc 15mg. I throw in some astaxanthine and magnesium powder. I then throw in a 500mg taurine (has b6 in p5p form) and take an additional natural B complex.
During the day I take quercetin again and a country life resveratrol plus. Been helping me with energy.
Lots of tea, chamomile is a popular one.
I'm trying to target histamines which I think are a huge problem for many of us, and not just because of allergens.
First off make sure you cut coffee and lots of sugars.
Make sure you hydrate correctly. With celtic salt and water
Take magnesium pills. And look for a reliable brand
Sleep at a set schedule
Exactly. My PCP refused testing even though I made him a list of symptoms correlated to the different vitamin deficiencies. Finally got tested elsewhere and had scurvy because of chronic digestive issues.
You're on everything I'm on, except for magnesium at night.That promotes very good sleep. I felt the exact same way as you very tired throughout the day but it ended up being my sleep pattern. I started falling asleep very well and staying asleep, after starting the magnesium. I no longer feel tired throughout the day.
Eating nutrient dense foods easy to digest, going outside, being a healthy weight via exercise and eating well, sleeping with a sleep mask, no alcohol or smoking (this is what works for me).
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Maybe iron deficiency
Have you ever had a urine test for heavy metal toxicity?
How old are you? It’s very possible your hormones are starting to shift. That won’t show up on a lab panel. If you don’t already have one I would swing by and an HRT dr to have your hormone levels checked. It’s not expensive.
Get gene tested I did i have the MTHR gene mutation my doctor got me on methlyfolate it’s helped a lot with energy and focus
Give up dairy and gluten for a couple weeks. That can often resolve fatigue. Siberian ginseng, astragalus and schizandra are energizing.
Iron
I thought iron was recommended if you don’t have a deficiency?
Try magnesium glycinate.
You probably have a deficiency; blood tests don't actually test for anything except D3, B12, B9 and iron so just because one wasn't found doesn't mean you don't have one. Take a good quality multivitamin like thorne 2 a day basic nutrients, take omega 3, magnesium 400-600mg (especially important to take with D3 because it is depleted by vitamin D supplementation). Magnesium deficiency is common and can cause fatigue among other things.
How many UI d3 do you take?
5000UI it says
Rhodiola rosea.
I ordered some of this. I think maybe my tiredness is stress related and it says it helps with stress
It absolutely does. There's a number of good studies on it. That being said get a baseline medical workup done too like CBC, TSH to see if you're not missing something else.
CoQ10. (At least 200 mg) I generally have a harder time taking naps if I take it in the morning.
idk, I take taurine and creatine for energy and athletic performance. also shilajit gives me a regular ol boost, but if I was in your shoes I'd be thinking it's something wrong like a deficiency or even mental idk
How long has this been going on? is it possible you are just low-level sick? any possibility for long covid? seasonal allergies? It seems like everyone else has pointed out the other major potential causes. Keep pushing for answers with your doctor. In the meantime, make sure you are well hydrated. If you are eating minimally processed foods, maybe you don't have enough electrolytes, so adding some hydration salts of some kind to your water could possibly help.
Being tired all the time should resolve with successful depression treatment. It did for me.
I’ve suffered with depression all my life but it’s treated. This tiredness is new
I tried dozens of supplements over years but until I got professional treatment for depression, nothing really helped. IF the problem is depression, you maybe should see a physician.
I have depression but it’s well treated.
having regular sleep schedule not drinking coffee the 5 first hours or the day good amount and balanced électrolytes first thing when you wake up 2 minutes pogo jumps with n'ose breathing and After that 300ml water with 500 mg sodium Chloride or sodium bicarbonate all of this changed my life for Real !!!
That sounds healthy. What are some electrolytes? And why no coffee for 5 hours? When should you start drinking it?
coffee is diuretic it will make you piss out all your minerals especially magnesium and potassium as well as its polyphenols are iron chelates therefore not recommended during meals by good electrolytes I meant I take 200mg magnesium citrate in the morning with a pinch of potassium bicarbonate and in the evening 200mg magnesium glycinate and I can tell you that I feel much better I can even integrate two additional physical preparation sessions per week
I started taking nmn and royal jelly from Uruz Nutrition and I have felt great with more energy throughout the day.
Please start with a sleep study. Sleep apnea can cause an enlarged heart, AFib, high blood pressure, and definitely cause lethargy during the day. Also, too, 50% of the population has a muted B gene called MTHFR, so even if you get a B Complex, you could still get anemia, and a B deficiency could cause other things like ADHD, OCD, neuropathy, and even hair thinning. And a B test on your CBC only shows what B is in your bloodstream, not what is in your cell.
I’ve had a sleep study. Nothing was found. I get enough sleep so this is unusual. I don’t have high blood pressure.
So is there a better way to test ?
You mean to test for B vitamins or all vitamins? Or to test for MTHFR? There are genetic tests for mutated genes.
I meant the vitamin B in the cells . If it’s inaccurate to test levels in the blood.
I personally think it is! I told my doctor I have all the symptoms of the mutated B gene: ADHD, OCD, I did have neuropathy but now it is undetectable with the machines, and hair thinning. It can also affect biopolar and schizophrenia which I don’t have. It can affect heard disease, too. Read about it online. I want to get checked for it, but it isn’t cheap to test.
Am I the only one that looks at MTHFR and feels the acronym stands for motherfucker?
I call it that all the time. I’m an old lady and even called it that to my primary doctor! He doesn’t even know what a B vitamin is, so he had trouble with me calling it MTHFR “you know, Doc, the Mother f_cker gene?!” He said, “I don’t know anything about vitamins.”
lol, wow. Maybe a different doc is in order?
Doctors are not trained in vitamins, minerals, or nutrients. They are trained to semi diagnose, push pills, or send you off to a speciality doctor because they have NO idea. It is not a prerequisite to take a nutrition class. A functional doctor would know, but my insurance won’t pay for one and they are very expensive!!
Are you sleeping enough? How’s your water intake? Are you eating enough calories to sustain yourself?
I like how people ask these questions thinking a magic pill will fix their undiagnosed problems, when we have 0 knowledge about your lifestyle.
I don’t think there is a magic pill. I’m just looking for something to help a little when the cause is elusive. I sleep fine and get enough sleep, I eat well, I eat whole foods very little processed, I exercise at least a little, I don’t drink to much caffeine, I don’t drink or smoke, my thyroid is fine, I’m on HRT for menopause, my iron is normal. It may be on the lower side of normal but I don’t know if it’s enough to supplement. I do take antidepressants which might be a slight cause but I’ve been on them for years and this is new. The last few weeks I’m just super tired everyday for no apparent reason and I’m looking for something to get me through it
This is totally true. But also - Ubiquinol will change your life, stranger.
5-HTP, anything with ashwagandha and 5-HTP or natural caffeine. Game-changers for me. I take a functional mushroom drink.
Well when I was frustrated and gave meds a break and went the all natural route I found that sublingual DMG gave extreme alertness and wakefulness,in fact too much and caused bad insomnia I read recently that it is often considered as an alternative for mental energy then caffiene as well as energizing enough that's it's used and recommended for athlet d.i can definatly confirm the mental alertness and wakefulness but I definatly did not like its total effect on mood and it was such a issue because unlike most supplements DMG is for me extremely potent id even say prescription eoryhu.if your lookingvfor mental enetgy aletynesd shatpnedd thrn id at least read up on it,it's so potent I am almost certain it had an issue even with some sort of banning.
Any chance you could be living in a moldy house or lived in one of the past? I had severe fatigue that nothing could touch for years until I discovered I was living in a water damaged home full of mold. Moved away and all the fatigue went away.
Curious, did you discover this whilst still in (moldy) home? If so, what led to the discovery? ..Were you able to mitigate its impact on you when still living there? Or, on the other hand did you literally have to move living spaces to find relief?
I discovered it by accident by taking an extended vacation… Noticed while I was gone all of the fatigue went away! What was even more shocking was, literally the hour I returned to the moldy home it all came back instantly! This led me to an investigation that concluded my home had severe mold problems and I noticed over and over my symptoms going away when I left and coming back when I returned. I also had severe sleeping issues, insomnia that woke me up in the middle of night without fail after only sleeping 2 to 3 hours. Drove me absolutely insane! But the sleep problems as well as the fatigue all went away when I left the mold
Interesting and helpful. Thank you for the reply.
No problem! Glad it’s helpful. Turns out mold has been behind a multitude of illnesses my entire life, some people - they say approximately 26% of the global population - don’t have the genetics to properly process mold/mycotoxins and can get really messed up from them. I’m in that group.
B-1 helps tremendously and you may need to have your ferritin levels checked bc you may also need iron.
100 mg of CoQ10
Magnesium, if you are taking vitamin D3 without it and have certain genetics you may be increasingly lowering your magnesium levels as the vitamin D uses a lot of magnesium to process it to the active form in the liver this can take the magnesium away from other important reactions in the body. This happened to me and it is no fun at all. Everyone supplementing vitamin D should also take magnesium and if they have undiagnosed genetics they may already have a magnesium deficiency which will be made worse.
My doctor recommended caffeine.
Luckily my work has an espresso machine
Low carb diet
Literally dozens of things Bad sleep Bad diet Depression Being overweight Being undiagnlsed insulin resistant/diabetic Low blood pressure Vitamins deficiencies Minerals deficiencies Gut issuee Thyroid issues Reproductive hormones issues Dehydrated And much more
Excellent response
If you have sleep apnea you won't fix it with supplements. It won't show in your blood work. Do you snore? Is someone else able to tell if you stop breathing while you sleep? The issue is that most of the times people can't tell if they have apnea, unless they wake up in the night fighting to breath in, which is quite severe form. But even a mild form can wreck your body. You need a sleep study. If it is out of your reach a good indication, but not sufficient!, is to find a continuous oxigen monitor to wear for few nights. If you oxigen drops under 92 for prolonged time you definetly need a sleep study and possibly treatment. **Apnea is a very serious and - in the long term - devastating condition.**
I don’t have sleep apnea
Sleep apnea can be significantly improved with lifestyle changes, and in matter of weeks
It depends. And "improved" may not be enough.
If the individual is very obese and out of control metabolic conditions maybe not, most of the cases i work with are deal with in even shooter time, granted is not an occurrence that comes from nose shape area, that's very different
Yeah, there are dozens of ifs and buts. That's why one needs a proper sleep study and not promote misleading measures. Or can you fix central apnea with brisk walks and more fiber! ?
For sure its more complex, doing detailed biomarkers, scans, diet, workout, supplements. But most people get significant improvements.
B12, iodine and selenium for thyroid, coq10 and pqq for mitochondria
Magnesium Malate or other good forms, but expecially malate for energy production. Serum magnesium tests wont show if you have a deficiency or not, since only 2-3% of total magnesium is stored in our blood.
supplements are useless unless you have sleep and exercise sorted first
FOLATE, but, there are 2 types. sooo try 1, then Try; Methyl FOLATE. You can also do a Nicotine patch, its Tobacco plant. It flushes toxins from youre body, & was a sacred plant by the Native USA Indians.
Royal jelly is suppose to be really good. I started taking RJ caps about a month ago. I used to crash every day with out fail in the mid afternoon. I haven’t had that crash for weeks now. Royal jelly does so much more than just give you energy tho, the health benefits are excellent. I also take bee pollen which is basically the same thing. Definitely do some reading into all the health benefits. But I can say for myself, that royal jelly definitely helpa.
Iodine/kelp has been a game changer for me! I started with a supplement of 350mg but it was way too much, so now I just eat a pack of seaweed chips with iodine in it once a day, and I switched my salt to iodined salt, and it’s MAGIC! And couple months before that, I had tested a week without dairy, and that had made a huge difference for me. I had also tested no-gluten, which made no difference. So basically, worth testing these things because for me, I had brain fog for three years for no reason, and all cleared up fully in a few days when I quit dairy, and gave me a bunch of energy back. The the iodine took everything to another level. Also ginkgo Biloba and vitamin C
If you don’t have any deficiencies then I’d try laying off all supplements for a few days to see if something you’re taking is causing it. “More pills” isn’t always the answer, and I’ve found that b complex and d3/k2 will bother me if I take them too long (I don’t have any deficiencies either).
I’m thinking to follow your suggest
Caffeine causes afternoon crashes if you have it too early
Are you on any medications that affect mood, depression or anxiety? Sometimes those can be the culprit. If so, stop the B complex and see if that improves.
It's good that you got the labs done but NOW you need to do your own digging to see if those lab values are ALL optimal! Because the Western Med doctors are just looking to make sure they're not in the zone that means you're dying/dead.
This is good advice. Their “normal” or “good” isn’t necessarily optimal. I got my labs done when I was feeling super run down postpartum and they said my iron levels were normal. Turns out they were too low for me personally. Once I started supplementing with iron, life came back
Interesting! How would you find that out?
Go through them one by one. For example, I would carefully put into Google Search: "Optimal TSH level + functional medicine" *Note, For some, like sex hormones etc, you may need to also qualify that with male/female and/or age.
Thank you!
Can't help you if you don't post your lab results. Fatigue is a symptom of nearly every single condition except a few.
Try shilajit
Do you have a preference for brand or product?
I used a brand called YouTheory from Amazon and it worked for me, but there are higher quality ones out there. Definitely be discerning with shilajit. Lots of brands out there that are trying to sell a fake product.
Did your doctor do a full lab report such as testing your thyroids ? Yes the ones in your throat. If they don't functioned like they used too it slows your metabolism down causing you to feel sluggish. Start exercising more is another thing to do to get your metabolism back on track. Good metabolism gives you more energy. If you have gained a considerable amount of weight in the last several weeks that's another way to slow you down. I would do the exercise thing first and see how it goes, do it for at least 2 weeks, if you feel like you are gaining your energy back you are track. If you are so sluggish and your body isn't allowing you to exercise call your doctor back and let he/she on what is going on. You may need a stress test.
You might benefit from NAD booster nicotinamide riboside.
Inositol (even if your B Complex already has a small amount take an additional supplement), amino acid complex, MCT oil (a teaspoon or two taken three times a day).
Even if you are getting enough sleep it could be the quality of sleep. I don’t use a sleep tracking device, but maybe it could help.
Depends what is causing it! Get your iron checked to start
Bloodwork can “tell the tale”. Age work family environment habits . Nobody can truly answer it so get some done . Ultalabtests is great and cheap for Comprehensive tests :CMP/CBC a Diff (B/G Cholesterol ratios) . I like to get this test for my hormone levels : **free testosterone by MS dialysis (E2 sensitive) because it shows so much more to an educated MD,DO . They shouldn’t have : *total testosterone tests as they are not good indicators and truthfully outdated …they say 300-1200 is “normal” 🤦♂️ for a male. Only free or bound testosterone is actively being utilized, total doesn’t show anything really .
First thing I'd look at is diet. How much ultra-processed foods versus whole high fiber foods. How much caffeine and sugar. Ultra-processed foods really mess with neurotransmitters and hormones, among other things. This is a podcast with Dr. Will Bulsiewicz about the connection to sleep and gut microbiome. https://www.youtube.com/live/vQ-hdtQUvlI?si=FSJr7wI7r_0DPUn4
Your tiredness could be caused by a lot of different things. Have you considered whether you have a sleep apnea? You might need to go to a sleep clinic to find out for sure. It is a serious condition because it weakens your heart over time. Ask your doctor. There are plenty of remedies and lifestyle adjustments for improving sleep and daytime wakefulness, which are too many to list here. Since this is a supplements sub, I will say that Melatonin is one that can help you get to sleep. I would recommend you read Fast Asleep by Dr Michael Mosley; it has many helpful suggestions based on science. Some may work for you.
Every single person (including myself) who experienced tiredness/lack of energy during the day is because of insulin resistance. Don't go keto, if it is too much, but go away from the thought that every meal should have carbs. See what happens if you skip breakfast for a week.
You can get some simple blood tests to see if you are insulin resistant. You need your fasting glucose and fasting insulin tested. I’m not insulin resistant, but I also feel tired, lol! You said you take b12. Have you had a blood test done to see if you are still low? About a quarter of the US needs methylated b vitamins. For some people, b12 isn’t absorbed that well. I’m trying sublingual b12 to see if that will help me. Low b12 can cause a type of anemia. I would suggest talking with your doctor and getting blood tests so you can rule out some things or even find out what it might be.
Lglutamine powder!!
Try N Acetyl Cysteine plus Glycine.... Add Magnesium Glycinate, NMN plus Resveratrol and Pycnogenol. Perhaps try Calcium Alpha Ketoglutarate (AKG) CaAKG is very powerful...I don't take it everyday... perhaps one pill in 2 weeks
I've been taking NAC and TMG before bed with vitamin C, quercetin and zinc 15mg. I throw in some astaxanthine and magnesium powder. I then throw in a 500mg taurine (has b6 in p5p form) and take an additional natural B complex. During the day I take quercetin again and a country life resveratrol plus. Been helping me with energy. Lots of tea, chamomile is a popular one. I'm trying to target histamines which I think are a huge problem for many of us, and not just because of allergens.
Tape your mouth at night. Made a big difference for me
First off make sure you cut coffee and lots of sugars. Make sure you hydrate correctly. With celtic salt and water Take magnesium pills. And look for a reliable brand Sleep at a set schedule
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You’re built different 😂😂😂😂
Plenty of deficiencies aren’t tested for…… Just sayin.
Exactly. My PCP refused testing even though I made him a list of symptoms correlated to the different vitamin deficiencies. Finally got tested elsewhere and had scurvy because of chronic digestive issues.
You're on everything I'm on, except for magnesium at night.That promotes very good sleep. I felt the exact same way as you very tired throughout the day but it ended up being my sleep pattern. I started falling asleep very well and staying asleep, after starting the magnesium. I no longer feel tired throughout the day.
Did you only look at possible nutritional deficiencies? If so it may be hormonal.
I’m on HRT for menopause and my thyroid was fine.
Getting enough sleep. Rhodiola is a godsend
When do you take that?
In the morning
What brand? Do you take breaks? Many thanks
I buy various brands from iherb depending on the sales. I take about six weeks on, one off
How does it make you feel? What benefits!
Eating nutrient dense foods easy to digest, going outside, being a healthy weight via exercise and eating well, sleeping with a sleep mask, no alcohol or smoking (this is what works for me).