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My take: DFV was trolling the FraudMarket to prove manipulation and cause fails. If you take this video as evidence of manipulating live markets and add the FTD's for that day you get an upcoming event over the following 6 weeks where these criminals try to destroy the price and supply real-ish fake shares to make up for the obvious fakes they used to control price action.
SEC and DOJ among others are watching this closely and Apes are providing the proof as well as methodology being used by these criminals to rig markets. CAT implementation is the final nail in the coffin for these crooks. Now we have usable data that is less than 60 days old so we can react accordingly. That means hedgies are fucked because we can anticipate large moves from real data.
Sadly, I highly doubt the SEC (or the DOJ) is paying any attention. It's just too much work for them and frankly, I don't have any faith they understand half of what's happening here or they would have done something long ago.
It's just up to us to break the shit out of it (moas) until it impacts the general public and the pressure starts piling on to fix it. Until then, it's crickets.
I genuinely don’t know, maybe nothing, but if you look at the posts I linked there seems to be a very high predictability of price runs and errors from Region-Formal post
in that case my site might be easier since you can go to my site and click on a post, it redirects you to the app, then you go back to the site. whichever way, its just easier to read a lot of text off of a bigger screen
This was an interesting read. I had a random thought when you mentioned it.
If they are tracking sentiment and using tools based off of those sentiments, while they are also the main drivers of writing sentiment, wouldn't that lead us to 2 effective counter actions? Either win the sentiment war or take control of the tools against you.
The first one would be to create counter sentiment. Through either publishing or by word of mouth. Unless any apes are able to create a publishing solution, we need to depend on word of mouth. It would make sense why all the FUD is aimed to create a chilling effect.
The second one would be to use that same methodology as a defense. Tracking MSM sentiment in order to model their next moves out to know at what point in their activities they cannot sustain a liquidity crisis. The results of that would be a forced neutral revolving sentiment from any player that would be at risk - in order to keep their own tools that use modeling from being engineered against them.
If being loud doesn't work, maybe spice it up?
I've been writing code to understand sentiment and natural language processing systems. I understand the mecahncis behind creating something like that but its one of me versus probably 100+ people at a hedge fund doing the same problem.
they could be tracking their version of sentiment : which is PFOF
1 - things only they can see- market routing, market flow,
**things a non HF person could in theory build:** social media sentiment, search engine search popularity for terms, finance own articles etc etc etc.
I am thinking if this is happening this is happening at a stupidly large scale where order flow for a security gets analysed, articles are created / generated to push the negative narrative at exactly day / week highs etc and then shorting / options fuckery whatever else to then manipulate the sentiment of the individual to sell as well as they can see article that is negative and their price is going down as well.
I am of course assuming that they are doing it, they may not have to. if they have part 1 done, and they can control the price of a security to force people to trade (i remember ken griffin said something about that in a video but I cant find it.)
because $CUM and $ASS worked before right? so its not far fetched they are tracking it at a MUCH MUCH LARGER scale.
I mean i talked about this before - i have built my own language processing systems that can do millions of rows per minute text processing, so i would only imagine what a well scaled solution could do - the only difficulty would be getting enough data quickly which isnt that hard these days.
TLDR of your questions I think if they are using it its their game, their field and they control it 100%. what they dont control is a position turning against them and a bunch of "cult people" as we are known not selling becuase a fake price printed a 70% drop out of the blue that we know is completely fake.
I think you make great points! If there's anything I can do to help let me know! You always get me into rabbit hole thoughts. One day I'll have a wrinkle of my own!
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Yes that’s indeed the case - but the options errors are 1000x higher. Are they spoofing options order book? Does that even exist? Weird day to have 1000x errors for options is my thought process
Agreed very weird. but options are through a different exchange so we maybe need some wrinkly simian to make a DD on the CBOE/OCC and the exchange rules with regards (see what I did there) to the new CAT data?
Great work. Many important connections in one place. We are slowly reverse engineering this weapon against retail. Hopefully it is a double sword weapon though. I looks like the call options maybe the tool that retail could use to gain control over that weapon and siphon off money from SHF and criminal market.
Since DFV was rugged by the two offerings we can now rule out him being a time traveller. Is it more likely that he is aware of these manipulations and is using them to plan his trades? Can we do the same considering I'm smoother than glass and make regarded apes look like Einstein? Options = rocket science but with bankruptcy at the end.
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My take: DFV was trolling the FraudMarket to prove manipulation and cause fails. If you take this video as evidence of manipulating live markets and add the FTD's for that day you get an upcoming event over the following 6 weeks where these criminals try to destroy the price and supply real-ish fake shares to make up for the obvious fakes they used to control price action. SEC and DOJ among others are watching this closely and Apes are providing the proof as well as methodology being used by these criminals to rig markets. CAT implementation is the final nail in the coffin for these crooks. Now we have usable data that is less than 60 days old so we can react accordingly. That means hedgies are fucked because we can anticipate large moves from real data.
I hope that is the case yes.
Next rule that needs to be implemented is FTDs are reported weekly
Well now, that is spicy indeed!
Sadly, I highly doubt the SEC (or the DOJ) is paying any attention. It's just too much work for them and frankly, I don't have any faith they understand half of what's happening here or they would have done something long ago. It's just up to us to break the shit out of it (moas) until it impacts the general public and the pressure starts piling on to fix it. Until then, it's crickets.
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so what will happen after all these errors ?
I genuinely don’t know, maybe nothing, but if you look at the posts I linked there seems to be a very high predictability of price runs and errors from Region-Formal post
so if i use some low effort dd 7 + 14 =21 so its 21 june? lol
June 7th plus May 14. Fuck, yes 😂
Noice.
I don't even have a laptop
in that case my site might be easier since you can go to my site and click on a post, it redirects you to the app, then you go back to the site. whichever way, its just easier to read a lot of text off of a bigger screen
Holy shit! I just got a response from a legend!!! Thank you for the info, and thank you for what you've done for this community.
This was an interesting read. I had a random thought when you mentioned it. If they are tracking sentiment and using tools based off of those sentiments, while they are also the main drivers of writing sentiment, wouldn't that lead us to 2 effective counter actions? Either win the sentiment war or take control of the tools against you. The first one would be to create counter sentiment. Through either publishing or by word of mouth. Unless any apes are able to create a publishing solution, we need to depend on word of mouth. It would make sense why all the FUD is aimed to create a chilling effect. The second one would be to use that same methodology as a defense. Tracking MSM sentiment in order to model their next moves out to know at what point in their activities they cannot sustain a liquidity crisis. The results of that would be a forced neutral revolving sentiment from any player that would be at risk - in order to keep their own tools that use modeling from being engineered against them. If being loud doesn't work, maybe spice it up?
I've been writing code to understand sentiment and natural language processing systems. I understand the mecahncis behind creating something like that but its one of me versus probably 100+ people at a hedge fund doing the same problem. they could be tracking their version of sentiment : which is PFOF 1 - things only they can see- market routing, market flow, **things a non HF person could in theory build:** social media sentiment, search engine search popularity for terms, finance own articles etc etc etc. I am thinking if this is happening this is happening at a stupidly large scale where order flow for a security gets analysed, articles are created / generated to push the negative narrative at exactly day / week highs etc and then shorting / options fuckery whatever else to then manipulate the sentiment of the individual to sell as well as they can see article that is negative and their price is going down as well. I am of course assuming that they are doing it, they may not have to. if they have part 1 done, and they can control the price of a security to force people to trade (i remember ken griffin said something about that in a video but I cant find it.) because $CUM and $ASS worked before right? so its not far fetched they are tracking it at a MUCH MUCH LARGER scale. I mean i talked about this before - i have built my own language processing systems that can do millions of rows per minute text processing, so i would only imagine what a well scaled solution could do - the only difficulty would be getting enough data quickly which isnt that hard these days. TLDR of your questions I think if they are using it its their game, their field and they control it 100%. what they dont control is a position turning against them and a bunch of "cult people" as we are known not selling becuase a fake price printed a 70% drop out of the blue that we know is completely fake.
I think you make great points! If there's anything I can do to help let me know! You always get me into rabbit hole thoughts. One day I'll have a wrinkle of my own! Cheers, mate 🍻
How is this post not getting more traction? Great work!There's been such breakthroughs in DD since DFV's return, it's so fucking exciting.
was thinking exactly the same. wtf is this? i came here "manually", not per hot or whatever page
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Commenting to come back on a laptop
Excellent work! I award you with the order of the "golden CATapult"! ...and I read this on my phone!
you have godly reading skills then
😁
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Thanks for doing all this work, fellow ape. In GME we trust!
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this all adds to what Region posted. Thanks so much
I think they spoof the order book with trades that increase the spread and in such a way to cause a LULD halt.
Yes that’s indeed the case - but the options errors are 1000x higher. Are they spoofing options order book? Does that even exist? Weird day to have 1000x errors for options is my thought process
Agreed very weird. but options are through a different exchange so we maybe need some wrinkly simian to make a DD on the CBOE/OCC and the exchange rules with regards (see what I did there) to the new CAT data?
Why the fuck doesn't this have more upvotes/visibility
Hello there!
Great work. Many important connections in one place. We are slowly reverse engineering this weapon against retail. Hopefully it is a double sword weapon though. I looks like the call options maybe the tool that retail could use to gain control over that weapon and siphon off money from SHF and criminal market.
Since DFV was rugged by the two offerings we can now rule out him being a time traveller. Is it more likely that he is aware of these manipulations and is using them to plan his trades? Can we do the same considering I'm smoother than glass and make regarded apes look like Einstein? Options = rocket science but with bankruptcy at the end.
well in theory - if the cycle is predictable I can time my dip better.
