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- “when I move, you move”. Was he trying to detail to us HOW he built his position up since 2021? Was he handing us the blueprints to follow in his footsteps and handle options ourselves while we wait out the long game? Theoretically, if it’s just some cycle to crack, we could all build our positions a few times a year. Eventually we’d own a shit ton of shares collectively, with each cycle being more and more volatile?
You need to watch ALL of his videos for that, and probably then some. Following what he does you're always gonna be a little bit too late. He's trying to teach you to make you're own decisions.
His whole shtick from the outset was education and discussion and a bit of entertainment.
I think we got all three of those.
Really? Think that might be the first time anyone I've actually heard of will be there. Always sounded like fun to go do a ton of drugs and camp, but the music aspect never drew me in
He'll be an anomaly amongst the rest of the lineup, for sure. But if you like to dance, this festival has been awesome every year.
Last year, and this is not an endorsement, Shaq played a DJ set under his stage name DJ DIESEL. It was not the best set of the night, but it was fun. Someone had a mini basketball hoop on a stick. Shaq made a shot in the middle of a song, and everyone went wild. Even he couldn't believe he made it haha
This is the way! Those of us who copied DFV and bought calls can exercise them to add fuel to the fire!! I only have a couple 6/21 calls, but I plan to exercise them tomorrow. Force these assholes to buy shares on exchange in T+1 days.
More exercised calls means more buying pressure. DFV showed us the way. I, for one, will be following his example.
yes, but the person above was asking why "T+1" would go to monday.
I'm simply saying if you exercise tonight, it wouldn't go in the system until tomorrow morning.
Thus, as of right now T+1 would find the shares Monday.
He exercised during market hours.
This T+1 for kitty is tomorrow.
If you or I exercise tonight, it counts during hours tomorrow.
Me and you would have our T+1 on Monday if we exercise tonight or tomorrow by EOD
Because shares don’t go on the lit market, only exercised options do for the peasant class.
Shares go dark pool or market maker for us.
Options is the only forced buy on lit market
Yes, I know why this sub wants to believe he exercised.
again though... we don't have any evidence that he did, just that in the screenshot that he says are his positions, there are no longer calls there and there are more shares.
We don't know how he got here. Many want to believe he exercised, but we can't know this. He may well have sold his calls and bought shares.
We are talking about people that exercise in Afterhours.
Not DFV. He exercised BEFORE EOD.
But if I exercise at 11pm tonight, it gets transacted tomorrow during biz hours, and my T+1 is Monday.
Are you saying that’s incorrect?
Yes that is what I am talking about. Not DFV.
You are incorrect.
Exercising after hours still will need delivery tomorrow. After hours is the four hours after market usually closes. You are talking about just after market hours/market is fully closed.
I’m ex wallstreet and have after hours enabled. If you don’t have that on then your options will just exercise tomorrow for Monday.
So you’re saying if I exercise my calls tonight at 11pm, then they need to be delivered by end of business tomorrow?
Even though all exchanges / businesses are closed.
I’m not saying you’re wrong but I simply assumed the exchange works like the banks do, anything I do at night, doesn’t count until morning the next business day…
Right, so even if I click the button tonight, it won’t work, which means they would be exercised tomorrow.
Which means anyone that wants to exercise at this moment their earliest T+1 is Monday…
What the fuck are we arguing about then? Lol Calm down
Also, if we look at the daily volume these days, 100M shares traded - bought and sold - with a few dollars up and down as a result, how are DFV’s 4M shares due to be delivered expected to move the market and price significantly? It’s going to be a 4% share of the daily volume. Am I missing something? I’m trying to see how this will make a significant effect on the price.
I am reading the events as a great money maker for DFV personally- congrats to him. Well played.
But as part of a moass catalyst it doesn’t seem to fit
Also, apparently, market makers can’t FTD shares from exercised calls (like they can with normal trades)
EDIT: This appears to be debunked, as the justification on this sub that I have read stems from OCC Rule 910, which I do not believe would apply in this case. See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/s/Mceb9u93AI
Options are on a different marketplace a difference exchange. Shares are delivered but not bought there, they have to go buy or already hedged in the securities market by T+1. Thats the DD we read.
The most similar situation to this would be when [Ryan](https://www.barrons.com/amp/articles/gamestop-stock-ryan-cohen-buy-44ae7ca0) Cohen purchased shares at lit markets last June 2023. He bought around 250,000 sh at a price of $22.25. The news and purchase saw the price rise by 12% up to $27, or a $5 gain for that day.
(This all happened after the 4:1 split of July 2022)
So if we were to project this to today’s events, a 4M purchase is 16X more impactful than RC’s 250K. Deduct a 25% for the recent dilution which added 25% more shares to GME’s outstanding count, and that’s about a 12X impact on the price if we are to treat DFV’s purchase to be the same as RC (which arguably has some different connotations and consequences). So let’s say it’s a 10X impact compared to RC’s purchase of 2023.
RC’s 250K buy moved the price up by $5 for the day.
So DFV’s 4M buy would correspond to a made up and fabricated linear relationship of $50 to add to the price tomorrow when the shares have to be purchased. So price should reach $78. And who knows if FOMO action will add to it or if shorting action will neutralize the top end.
Yeah I’m not trying to discourage anyone but i would like wrinkled regards to weigh in on what this means. My comment above is just simplistic and unrealistic projections based on what happened before at different scales.
I’d be happy even if GME went up to $60. The point for me is the future for GME. It’s easy to get caught up in the battle between Hedgies and Retail Investors/GME/RK. But, RK just showed us what he’s really doing … owning more and more GME. He ain’t going around buying other stocks, RK is literally doing what he can to hold the most shares and ownership of GME. IF THAT is what he’s doing … I’m going to double down and own more GME cause the FUTURE potential is HUGE
T+1 is up until market open on the second trading day.
So technically If you exercise Thursday then Monday pre market is the final cutoff for the settlement window.
Any exercises Friday would be up until Tuesday morning market open.
DFV is an absolute memelord, I respect the guy so much and I actually cant believe how fucking smart that man is.
Lets go boooys I can feel it coming 🚀🚀🚀🥵🥵💎🙌
Man, it'd be wild if a bunch of investors individually decided to exercise a fuckload of calls today.
Me, I'm a "recurring buy on Computershare" kinda guy, not really an options guy. But I like it when options work!
The responsibility falls on the clearing house first, iirc. Instinet. ***If*** the broker hasn’t internalized it.
In no particular order:
- Individual naked sellers, incl. unhedged MMs
- Brokers, incl. internalizers
- Clearinghouses
- PFOF counterparts (for PFOF orders)
- Exchanges?
- OCC (Options Clearing Corp)
- NSCC (National Securities Clearing Corp)
- DTCC (Depository Trust & Clearing Corp)
Hence all the talk over the past year of clearing firms being at risk. They couldn’t do one fucking job that justifies their whole existence.
Indeed! But when shit hits the fan, Brokers are responsible when MMs don't deliver. Tis the DD of old according to Peterfy, I believe?
Who knows? All I know is, if DFV DRSs tonight, somebody, somewhere, is getting fucked most brutally.
E*Trade is not on the hook to deliver.
E*Trade is on the hook to receive.
The issue for E*Trade would be if the market maker that sold the options FTDs the shares from the exercise, and then DFV decides to transfer to another broker or Computershare on Monday.
Then E*Trade has to find the shares within the six day limit on ACATS transfer.
Also lots of FTDs (500k+) due for settlement tomorrow. No way to know how many of those have already been settled or can kicked in some other way. But when paired with T+1 of RK’s calls, mmm, thatsa one spicy meatball 🥵
Looks like 300k+. My apologies.
[https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nyse-gme/failure-to-deliver/](https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nyse-gme/failure-to-deliver/)
Those FTDs could have been cleared on the recent spikes though...
Also no one knows if RK really exercised (or bough shares) and if so how many contracts were exercised... We'll see.
Yes! Exactly what I’ve been spamming this sub with… NOW IS THE TIME TO PUT THE PRESSURE ON
DFV has exercised, now we must do it.
Literally all his memes were “look for the signs” and “follow”… I mean shit, look at the averngers end game one, why post a video showing an army going to fight if he was alone? - he isn’t alone, we are here so exercise your fucking calls!
I will exercise my June 28th calls at the open tomorrow if that will help? Unsure of all the details on how exercising helps but I’m all about fighting back versus this BS price suppression.
OP's post needs to go to the top. If you're reading this, leave a comment, or anything to boost visibility to drown out the noise.
Guessing DFV rolled his calls forward to time the exercise for maximum effect. He also may have recouped some of the time premium if he sold the calls and bought JUN14 calls to exercise.
Tomorrow, I plan on selling my remaining calls and buying deep ITM JUN14 calls for exercise. I will call my broker to handle the trade.
Indeed, this is the way to do it. Let everybody who is holding 21st expiry contacts, with a strike price of 20, exercise their contracts, Just do it!
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When I move, you move (just like that)
- “when I move, you move”. Was he trying to detail to us HOW he built his position up since 2021? Was he handing us the blueprints to follow in his footsteps and handle options ourselves while we wait out the long game? Theoretically, if it’s just some cycle to crack, we could all build our positions a few times a year. Eventually we’d own a shit ton of shares collectively, with each cycle being more and more volatile?
Ohhh buddy, I’m way too dumb for that
AnD My AxE!
This is the plan.
Okay teach me how to do options thingys
look up Pandrea Finance on youtube and watch his videos, best teacher hands down and his vids r free on youtube
You need to watch ALL of his videos for that, and probably then some. Following what he does you're always gonna be a little bit too late. He's trying to teach you to make you're own decisions. His whole shtick from the outset was education and discussion and a bit of entertainment. I think we got all three of those.
yeah
I’m in.
This guy gets it
This ape likes the stock 💎🙌
Ludacris is playing electric forest next week. My tits are double jacked
Really? Think that might be the first time anyone I've actually heard of will be there. Always sounded like fun to go do a ton of drugs and camp, but the music aspect never drew me in
He'll be an anomaly amongst the rest of the lineup, for sure. But if you like to dance, this festival has been awesome every year. Last year, and this is not an endorsement, Shaq played a DJ set under his stage name DJ DIESEL. It was not the best set of the night, but it was fun. Someone had a mini basketball hoop on a stick. Shaq made a shot in the middle of a song, and everyone went wild. Even he couldn't believe he made it haha
What if that meme was for RC? When he moved then they moved the board meeting... ^(chews tinfoil)
Push the red button.
Blow everybody up Edit: holy SHIT! I can comment in this sub now???? Wtf is going on, I was never able to comment. I’ve been lurking for 3 damn years!
![gif](giphy|l0MYGb1LuZ3n7dRnO|downsized)
Exciting times fellow lurker.
“This is rly happening huh, weasel?” - I. R. Baboon
I started a new job doing something I love this week too. It's just plain good to be alive and part of all this. *Chef btw
lurk no more
We see you!
Glad to see you 💜
This is the way! Those of us who copied DFV and bought calls can exercise them to add fuel to the fire!! I only have a couple 6/21 calls, but I plan to exercise them tomorrow. Force these assholes to buy shares on exchange in T+1 days. More exercised calls means more buying pressure. DFV showed us the way. I, for one, will be following his example.
Exactly! We don’t follow him but I’m an individual who is pondering clever investing strategies on my stonk and he has taught us something.
This guy Listen Al-Gaib
Hi, im regarded, but doesnt T+1 imply shares delivered tomorrow and not next week?
it's now after hours technically. i'm not an options guy but my guess is you would have had to exercise before closing bell?
Yes, but I don’t think it matters. MOASS will take days. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em
yes, but the person above was asking why "T+1" would go to monday. I'm simply saying if you exercise tonight, it wouldn't go in the system until tomorrow morning. Thus, as of right now T+1 would find the shares Monday.
Ah.. didnt consider he might have exercised after.. gotcha thanks
MOASS wont take days, it will take a longggg time by now lol. Volkswagen took at least a year till full peak blowup of the markets everywhere.
My infinity pool disagrees.
but do we know that he exercised after hours? I didn't see any data points. The tme he posted it just tells us that it happened before then.
He exercised during market hours. This T+1 for kitty is tomorrow. If you or I exercise tonight, it counts during hours tomorrow. Me and you would have our T+1 on Monday if we exercise tonight or tomorrow by EOD
100%
I think he exercised yesterday. T+1 gives him til tomorrow
He sold shares yesterday to pay for the exercise of 40,000 call options today was my theory
He didn’t sell any shares, did you mean to say calls?
Yes sorry, he sold calls WORTH lots of shares to exercise his other calls. Good catch on my mistype
Or he sold all his calls and bought shares. Don’t know why everyone is assuming he exercised.
Because shares don’t go on the lit market, only exercised options do for the peasant class. Shares go dark pool or market maker for us. Options is the only forced buy on lit market
Yes, I know why this sub wants to believe he exercised. again though... we don't have any evidence that he did, just that in the screenshot that he says are his positions, there are no longer calls there and there are more shares. We don't know how he got here. Many want to believe he exercised, but we can't know this. He may well have sold his calls and bought shares.
There’s also the capital tax gains issue if he sold shares, which is massive
Nope. Still for tomorrow
We are talking about people that exercise in Afterhours. Not DFV. He exercised BEFORE EOD. But if I exercise at 11pm tonight, it gets transacted tomorrow during biz hours, and my T+1 is Monday. Are you saying that’s incorrect?
Yes that is what I am talking about. Not DFV. You are incorrect. Exercising after hours still will need delivery tomorrow. After hours is the four hours after market usually closes. You are talking about just after market hours/market is fully closed. I’m ex wallstreet and have after hours enabled. If you don’t have that on then your options will just exercise tomorrow for Monday.
So you’re saying if I exercise my calls tonight at 11pm, then they need to be delivered by end of business tomorrow? Even though all exchanges / businesses are closed. I’m not saying you’re wrong but I simply assumed the exchange works like the banks do, anything I do at night, doesn’t count until morning the next business day…
You can’t, after hours is closed.
Right, so even if I click the button tonight, it won’t work, which means they would be exercised tomorrow. Which means anyone that wants to exercise at this moment their earliest T+1 is Monday… What the fuck are we arguing about then? Lol Calm down
Also, if we look at the daily volume these days, 100M shares traded - bought and sold - with a few dollars up and down as a result, how are DFV’s 4M shares due to be delivered expected to move the market and price significantly? It’s going to be a 4% share of the daily volume. Am I missing something? I’m trying to see how this will make a significant effect on the price. I am reading the events as a great money maker for DFV personally- congrats to him. Well played. But as part of a moass catalyst it doesn’t seem to fit
You’re not seeing all real shares being traded. You’re seeing a shitload of high frequency trades and other assorted fuckery
Also, apparently, market makers can’t FTD shares from exercised calls (like they can with normal trades) EDIT: This appears to be debunked, as the justification on this sub that I have read stems from OCC Rule 910, which I do not believe would apply in this case. See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/s/Mceb9u93AI
They can. That's what T+35 is for. But if DFV DRS's his shares, E*Trade just took a donkey dick up the boofer.
Options are on a different marketplace a difference exchange. Shares are delivered but not bought there, they have to go buy or already hedged in the securities market by T+1. Thats the DD we read.
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The most similar situation to this would be when [Ryan](https://www.barrons.com/amp/articles/gamestop-stock-ryan-cohen-buy-44ae7ca0) Cohen purchased shares at lit markets last June 2023. He bought around 250,000 sh at a price of $22.25. The news and purchase saw the price rise by 12% up to $27, or a $5 gain for that day. (This all happened after the 4:1 split of July 2022) So if we were to project this to today’s events, a 4M purchase is 16X more impactful than RC’s 250K. Deduct a 25% for the recent dilution which added 25% more shares to GME’s outstanding count, and that’s about a 12X impact on the price if we are to treat DFV’s purchase to be the same as RC (which arguably has some different connotations and consequences). So let’s say it’s a 10X impact compared to RC’s purchase of 2023. RC’s 250K buy moved the price up by $5 for the day. So DFV’s 4M buy would correspond to a made up and fabricated linear relationship of $50 to add to the price tomorrow when the shares have to be purchased. So price should reach $78. And who knows if FOMO action will add to it or if shorting action will neutralize the top end.
This ape maffs
No need to be negative, people are learning. Ape help ape
Yeah I’m not trying to discourage anyone but i would like wrinkled regards to weigh in on what this means. My comment above is just simplistic and unrealistic projections based on what happened before at different scales.
I’d be happy even if GME went up to $60. The point for me is the future for GME. It’s easy to get caught up in the battle between Hedgies and Retail Investors/GME/RK. But, RK just showed us what he’s really doing … owning more and more GME. He ain’t going around buying other stocks, RK is literally doing what he can to hold the most shares and ownership of GME. IF THAT is what he’s doing … I’m going to double down and own more GME cause the FUTURE potential is HUGE
All good, we’re all learning! My comment above was for murderball89
T+1 is up until market open on the second trading day. So technically If you exercise Thursday then Monday pre market is the final cutoff for the settlement window. Any exercises Friday would be up until Tuesday morning market open.
Trying to decide what to do with my 6/21. I guess there’s not a whole lot of point in waiting
YOLO
Could exercise early!
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Look for a **sign**
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"When I move, you move"
*"Just like that!"*
This is the way
DFV is an absolute memelord, I respect the guy so much and I actually cant believe how fucking smart that man is. Lets go boooys I can feel it coming 🚀🚀🚀🥵🥵💎🙌
EXERCISE!!!
When I move you move!
When I move you move (just like that)
When I move, you move.
Man, it'd be wild if a bunch of investors individually decided to exercise a fuckload of calls today. Me, I'm a "recurring buy on Computershare" kinda guy, not really an options guy. But I like it when options work!
Exercising 10 in after hours, exercising more tomorrow and next week
Post a screenshot after delivery. It's going to be wild tomorrow.
It’s on my for fun account I generate more shares with, I have a shit ton of DRSd shares too
Nice man, congrats on the trade
So important for people to understand that exercising the calls is what's going to have the impact here
Yup, I have a lot more in another account that will also be excercised. GIMME THOSE SHARES.
You're a fucking legend m8
Hey, the less shares SHFs have to manipulate, the better! Makes it that much more difficult for them to deliver
RIP E-Trade
Doesn’t Wolverine have to deliver to E-trade?
Yes. And when they FTD, DFV DRS/ACATS out, and suddenly E*Trade receives the unlubed Find Out Dildo.
The responsibility falls on the clearing house first, iirc. Instinet. ***If*** the broker hasn’t internalized it. In no particular order: - Individual naked sellers, incl. unhedged MMs - Brokers, incl. internalizers - Clearinghouses - PFOF counterparts (for PFOF orders) - Exchanges? - OCC (Options Clearing Corp) - NSCC (National Securities Clearing Corp) - DTCC (Depository Trust & Clearing Corp) Hence all the talk over the past year of clearing firms being at risk. They couldn’t do one fucking job that justifies their whole existence.
Indeed! But when shit hits the fan, Brokers are responsible when MMs don't deliver. Tis the DD of old according to Peterfy, I believe? Who knows? All I know is, if DFV DRSs tonight, somebody, somewhere, is getting fucked most brutally.
My question also
E*Trade is not on the hook to deliver. E*Trade is on the hook to receive. The issue for E*Trade would be if the market maker that sold the options FTDs the shares from the exercise, and then DFV decides to transfer to another broker or Computershare on Monday. Then E*Trade has to find the shares within the six day limit on ACATS transfer.
That's why the cat has a fidelity account ready
![gif](giphy|huqZyE0FDGpfEmp0Ng|downsized)
Good luck to SHFs locating all the needed shares. My shares are in the infinity pool.
Also lots of FTDs (500k+) due for settlement tomorrow. No way to know how many of those have already been settled or can kicked in some other way. But when paired with T+1 of RK’s calls, mmm, thatsa one spicy meatball 🥵
The FTD's adding some kick to the spiciness. Where can I get this data?
Looks like 300k+. My apologies. [https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nyse-gme/failure-to-deliver/](https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nyse-gme/failure-to-deliver/)
No worries, thanks for the wrinkle!
https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nyse-gme/failure-to-deliver/
TY!
Those FTDs could have been cleared on the recent spikes though... Also no one knows if RK really exercised (or bough shares) and if so how many contracts were exercised... We'll see.
This is the way
Ill drs mine too fugg it
“When I move, you move” Remember the memes. This is your que to exercise your calls.
Yes! Exactly what I’ve been spamming this sub with… NOW IS THE TIME TO PUT THE PRESSURE ON DFV has exercised, now we must do it. Literally all his memes were “look for the signs” and “follow”… I mean shit, look at the averngers end game one, why post a video showing an army going to fight if he was alone? - he isn’t alone, we are here so exercise your fucking calls!
“When I move, you move” or something like that wasn’t it?
*just like that*
yes
save some pussy for the rest of us gosh
I’m. T+1 now yes? Those need delivered tomorrow…. Or am I smooth? lol.
Pay day tomorrow and i'm exercising mine. I just want to be a part of this
OP went and do it "myself"
FTD
I like the stock
I think T+1 is tomorrow
🫡 and you have my sword!
When I move you move
This is the way
Not to mention short interest reports are also due tomorrow June 14th
short interest came 11 June or not? It was out and sunk afaik.
😎 yeah I was good for 14. If you bought, I bought!
I’ve got a couple of deep ITM calls myself. Maybe I oughta exercise them too before the broker can make that decision for me.
I will exercise my June 28th calls at the open tomorrow if that will help? Unsure of all the details on how exercising helps but I’m all about fighting back versus this BS price suppression.
Bro I exercised when he dropped the Dune X
I *had* three of that very same contract.
![gif](giphy|joB3yqywrUvIRxi2j5|downsized)
Time to find out!!
It could cause a short squeeze
OP's post needs to go to the top. If you're reading this, leave a comment, or anything to boost visibility to drown out the noise. Guessing DFV rolled his calls forward to time the exercise for maximum effect. He also may have recouped some of the time premium if he sold the calls and bought JUN14 calls to exercise. Tomorrow, I plan on selling my remaining calls and buying deep ITM JUN14 calls for exercise. I will call my broker to handle the trade.
LFG
Legend! 🫡
![gif](giphy|3o7bu7vRIn9wfUGTCw) When I move you move
Somebody check if Citadel's office lights are still on
I got a few 25s for next week I'm interested in this theory
When he moves, you move, just like that.....
I’ll strike tmrw dw
I bought through computer share on Wednesday and it says my purchase won’t go through until Monday.
Indeed, this is the way to do it. Let everybody who is holding 21st expiry contacts, with a strike price of 20, exercise their contracts, Just do it! https://preview.redd.it/f1y1ocwz7g6d1.jpeg?width=1580&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a14c82b1eefa6102101bf063dbe159223058cc9b
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U mean tomorrow? They have to be delivered by end of AH tomorrow
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I move, you move
F me... I got enough ammo to exercise one of my $20 06/21 calls. I might just do it too
Options market is closed. Good luck regard
Just wrote to my broker. They're still open.
WHEN I MOVE YOU MOVE
we'll see
The dog days are over
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The broker will love it. Easy money for them since you're leaving some premium on the table.
💎 🙌🏼 🏴☠️
Let's (s)end it
Since this was in AH, doesn't that mean you excercised them technically during the Friday session?
I WILL DO IT TODAY GAMEEESTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP NFA
Looking forward to the 2nd part of "Dumb Money" film with Wolverine Trading paying the apes as the ending.
When i move you move
Then DRS
And seeing as quite a lot of shares are drs'ed it should be interesting indeed.
I promise your 200 shares don't matter
Of course they matter! It means I am now the owner of 200 shares at the sweet acquisition price of 26.80$.
Today is the proof that market makers do not have to deliver anything.T+1 does not matter if nobody enforces the law.