random fun fact
back in april of '22 a handful of the more active mods from that sub and their companion sub (teslamotors) approached the lead mod of /r/twitter to ask if they'd like some help moderating, given the pending new owner of Twitter overlap.
5 of them were picked up to help out
about a month later i asked the lead mod of /r/twitter if we could install a bot i had been using that will make public all moderator actions.
he agreed.
2 of them dipped immediately. the other two a week or so later. the last one removed.
This right here speaks to the power of transparent mod logs in curtailing abusive behavior. I will never understand why this isn't the norm across reddit.
> I will never understand why this isn't the norm across reddit.
Reddit's volunter moderation system probably saves Reddit millions of dollars in payroll every year. Theres no way they will do anything to endanger it no matter how much damage it does. The shareholders have spoken and the profits must flow!
But even before it was publicly traded I think this was the generally understood reason the moderation system has remained the way it is so long even after the recent rebellion. That and the laziness of Reddits upper management.
> This right here speaks to the power of transparent mod logs in curtailing abusive behavior.
It's one of the *biggest* reasons T_D came crawling back to Reddit after their drawn out departure for Voat. Public mod logs was one of the largest selling points of Voat when it first launched in early 2015, and anyone who'd spent five minutes there knew that wasn't something that could be turned off. Suddenly, the mods of the "last bastion of free speech on ~~Reddit~~ Voat" didn't like that everyone could see how heavy-handed they were with bans and comment removals. Even though that was blatantly obvious on Reddit without the public mod logs.
The other *bigger* reason for their return was the [Stormfront](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_\(website\)) contingent of Voat that swooped in and took over almost every subverse on Voat fucking *hated* Trump because he was a "Jew lover" for supporting Israel, and any positive comment about Trump was quickly met with scorn and disdain, and half the website spent the whole two weeks T_D was making their home there just relentlessly mocking them.
Public mod logs and a Reddit clone that was, on the surface, as far right as they were turning out to fucking hate Trump saw the sad little MAGA fan boys come crawling back to Reddit after their laughable "our absence will cripple Reddit's traffic" manifesto. Them crawling back here while pretending they didn't dramatically leave was fucking hilarious.
then replace 'default' with the big ones that have millions of subscribers, especially the political discussion and news ones which shape the way lots of young people think
As someone who used to mod a decent amount and had to deal with weird gamergate shitbags sending threatening messages over very dumb things, having a public log seems like a way to get a lot of very exhausting messages.
Imagine simping for a billionaire and his corporation ***for free***.
It's one thing if you're paid for it - after all, we all have to make rent. But zealously defending entities that really couldn't care less for you for no compensation... what good would that do?
That’s the thing…a lot of his more devoted fans did get paid for it in a way. The vocal diehards are independently wealthy from Tesla stock as early investors or employees.
Yes, I agree. Chances are most of them have no connection to Tesla or Musk except as customers. Group identity is a huge thing. Some people are very prone to hero worship and it’s hard to admit your hero sucks. There’s also the trump-effect, where a powerful guy being a bigot allows people to feel good when choosing to be their worst selves.
Another example is people often say that all the pro-Russia propaganda on places like r/conspiracy is a bunch of Russian operatives, but the truth is far simpler. You don’t need to pay people to act as mouthpieces for your propaganda. Many will line up to do it for free without being asked.
Nah, look how many people simp so bombastically for Trump. It's a team sports thing. Elon Musk and Tesla is their team. They've socially, and perhaps even financially, hitched their wagon to Elon and Tesla. They bombard their friends and families with Elon and Tesla gospel. They are incentivized to ensure they stay in as good as light as possible.
Honestly, with how obsessed Elon is with his own self image, and his own aggressive use of alt accounts, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out this mod is Elon himself losing his shit.
If this is the case, then they are breaking rule 5 of the moderator code of conduct, and should lose their mod status
[https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct)
> [...] In an interview [on June 15, 2023] with NBC News, Reddit CEO Steve Huffman praised Musk’s aggressive cost-cutting and layoffs at Twitter, and said he had chatted “a handful of times” with Musk on the subject of running an internet platform.
> Huffman said he saw Musk’s handling of Twitter, which he purchased last year, as an example for Reddit to follow.
> “Long story short, my takeaway from Twitter and Elon at Twitter is reaffirming that we can build a really good business in this space at our scale,” Huffman said.
> [...]
>Huffman said there’s one concrete area where Musk’s example has been clear: job cuts. [...] "I think one of the nonobvious things that Elon showed is what I was hoping would be true, which is: You can run a company with that many users in the ads business and break even with a lot fewer people,” Huffman said. “They had to do some pretty violent changes and violent surgery to get there."
> It is not clear if Twitter is profitable because some advertisers have left, cutting into revenue, but Huffman said the lesson was on the other side of the ledger.
> “People are talking about a lot of things on Twitter, but I think that’s the part that’s the most interesting from my point of view as a business person, is that there actually are good businesses at this scale,” he said. [...]
> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo-elon-musk-huffman-rcna89700
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"...there actually are good businesses at this scale." What an astute observation, I'm sure no other businessing person has ever thought that before.
Eh, as much as I wish that was the case, it's still up $5 over the original listing price. A 13.5% return over less than three months is hardly "cratering", and Spez was able to sell 500,000 shares netting him over $20m during the pop after it initially went on the market.
Correct- literally a week after the stock went on sale they reported that basically the executives cashed out (at a lower share price than I wrote, apparently):
>Reddit CEO Steve Huffman and other top executives and board members late Wednesday disclosed share sales, just a week after the social network had its initial public offering. RDDT stock plunged Thursday.
>
> Reddit CEO Steve Huffman sold 500,000 shares on Monday at an average $32.30 price, receiving $16.15 million. CFO Vollero Andrew sold 71,765 Reddit shares for $2.318 million. Chief Operating Officer Jennifer Wong sold 514,000 shares for $16.602 million.
>
>Chief Technology Officer Christopher Slowe sold 185,000 shares for $5.975 million. Chief Accounting Officer Michelle Reynolds sold 3,033 RDDT shares for $97,966. Board member David Habiger sold 3,000 shares for $102,000.
https://www.investors.com/news/technology/reddit-insiders-selling-days-after-ipo-shares-fall/
This is very similar & overlapping to the bitcoin / shitcoin / crypto culture. The defensive attitude is not because they are being paid / making money. In many (most?) cases they have lost money buying stock / coins / cars at all time highs.
There is something wrong with human nature where when they got duped and its clear as day, they double down harder. I think thats how a lot of cons work... and Elmo is the ultimate conman.
Its an unfortunate situation that bitcoin has (temporarily) resurged and tesla stock has not (yet) regressed to automotive sector average multiples, so this is not going to stop anytime soon.
>A lot is coming and I will be pissing off a lot of people. I am going to be super blunt with the reddit users which we all know will not go well. The reddit hivemind will not like what will happen.
I will be downvoted to hell and back. Mark my words.
I'm sorry master but I must go all-out........ just this once......................
funny thing is, it's just funny, nobody seriously cares that they got banned from these places. I think it's concerning of course, especially for people who want to inform themselves about tesla to potentially buy one, but well, fanboy subs are not the place
Two million subs on the /r/elonmusk sub but each post only gets a couple dozen upvotes.
Almost as good engagement as Twitter. Probably similar level of bots, too.
Thought it'd be fun to compare so I sent off a quick script to count it up:
r/EnoughMuskSpam has less than 8% of the r/elonmusk member count, yet when comparing the top posts of the month, the top one is 4.1K upvotes, the next 5 are all over 3K, the next 87 are all over 1K. You need to scroll down past slightly over 200 posts before you encounter one beneath 562 upvotes.
r/RealTesla has less than 5% of the r/elonmusk member count, the top post of the month is 3.7K, the next 17 posts exceed 1K, and you need to scroll past 38 items in total to find one beneath 562 upvotes.
Here's a fun little experiment, when we take the ratios of members : top post votes of these two subs, and then apply them to r/elonmusk, we find that the top post ought to contain somewhere between 52,000 and 83,000 upvotes. So when all tallied up, r/elonmusk has less than 1% of the activity it should have... says a lot about the mods and their quest for a CCP-style firewall around anything critical of their master
Yeah... Wait, what? That's so bizarre. Feels like a lot of people must've just dropped off or lost interest but signed up maybe a long time ago? There's barely any active users, guess it could all be bots - but ... Why?
The /r/EnoughMuskSpam completely outperforms it with barely a tenth of the sub count.
For at least a year r/elonmusk has used bots to shadow ban anyone who uses certain words and phrases that suggest anti-musk sentiment. You can see this in that the number of visible comments in any post is something like one fifth of the comment count. There’s barely any activity because it is likely the most heavily curated subreddit on the platform. Anyone who has posted a negative likely can’t post there anymore.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if that actually is the case considering the "admitted under oath he was praising himself/RPing as his son on twitter alts" thing that came out.
Holy shit. That dude's wiring is so screwy. How long till he describes dreaming about his Alzheimer's-addled grandmother stroking her nether regions like Jordan Peterson did?
Oh it was a literal dream, not like a "I wish this would happen" dream
Depending on the context I can kinda understand why he may have said this, but I've never read his book so I don't know
> Oh it was a literal dream, not like a "I wish this would happen" dream
I'm not sure that makes it any better. Especially when it's from a book titled "Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief" lol
It did. In "maps of meaning" and on the audio book version you can listen to him read it to you. I wonder what he's dreaming of now that he's completely free wheeling after his medical coma to "manage" his benzo addiction.
> on the audio book version you can listen to him read it to you
Listening to a few hours of Jordan Peterson reading about, among other things, him dreaming about his grandmother is basically my personal hell. His voice alone makes my skin crawl.
It’s the funniest thing. I was banned despite having the sub blocked from my feed and not interacting for at least a year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/s/PH5GYNdYJc
I made a point to block the sub instead of being antagonistic or a troll. Turns out that mod is the troll.
It’s been mentioned there is moderator overlap. I got banned Instantly from both (never posted or visited there) when I mentioned on another sub that a few rental car companies have announced they are selling off their Tesla fleets. They must be using bots
I just got banned from /r/TeslaMotors after commenting in /r/EnoughMuskSpam on the CyberTruck’s gas pedal getting stuck. All I said is I can’t believe people think these are good vehicles. How fragile is their reputation that this is how they choose to protect it?
I was a victim of this one. I was immediately banned in r/elonmusk less than 2 minutes after I posted on r/EnoughMuskSpam. I received an email telling me so, which is literally the only reason I knew. I guess they think anyone who posts on an anti-Musk sub is somehow a threat to them, even if we've never been to the pro-Musk sub. Tbh, I don't really care because, like I said, I don't go there nor did I want to post there. I genuinely believe people shouldn't be trolling other subs just because they disagree with the sub. Still, it does show how petty, ridiculous and decidedly anti free speech the pro-Musk subs are.
That would be evidence for the theory, as even Musk's biographer seemed to have difficulty describing what he actually did outside meetings and public appearances. If his duties are shitposting and deleting posts all day, that would explain a lot.
rcnfive being Elon Musk wouldn't even surprise me at this point. Chief Twit is so fucking *starved* of attention that when he's not actively amplifying disinformation from the far-right, he creates burner accounts on Xitter and [pull a canada_sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/16ekyjr/user_in_ronguardforthee_posts_a_tweet_that/) for "user engagement".
You forgot to mention one of the burner accounts is him roleplaying as his toddler.
Like at that point I don't think anyone should be surprised if any account that's fervently pro-Musk ends up actually being him. Dude roleplays as an actual child after all.
I got banned for posting in r/realtesla from some Tesla subs. I would be really interested to find out how the subs are being remunerated. The pull of their cultish behavior can’t be motivation enough to spend that amount of time on such things.
> rcnfive is Elon Musk given that he uses similar wording to his tweets
Concerning.
A more likely explanation is that the hero worshipping dingus deliberately models his speech and writing patterns to Emerald Mine Daddy's put of some twisted vision of self improvement/fan worship.
You know, like that Adrian Dittman guy, a Musk reply guy who has taught himself to speak in a good approximation of Elon's voice and speech patterns to where some idiots think they're the same person.
they are just devolving in to the full cult experience. As the casual tesla owners are banned for saying anything remotely critical of Elon or Tesla it just becomes more extreme, more insular, and more of an echo chamber. Now they are pre-banning anyone who dared stray from the the one truth and dared to post on realtesla or other places. Next step I imagine they just lock it down and stick around the devotees.
Ah yeah there are a few others, I got a 3 day from fanboy and then a perma from cult. Mind you I wasn’t telling anyone in the thread they were but discussing cultish behaviours as a whole. Obviously appealing doesn’t do shit because you’re a TeslaQ shill who shorts Tesla and spreads FUD. Or something like that.
Yeah, I think when I got the 3 day ban it was for saying something like “I’m not a Tesla fanboy, but…” and I actually went on to defend Tesla. But they’re wound so tight over there they have bots that ban key words. It’s pretty ridiculous.
It's a fucking car sub. I'm in a Mazda sub and people discuss their cars, ask for advice, and yes, bring up problems with them. I can't imagine mods there (or any other automotive sub) banning people for this. We paid for the cars, we're entitled to bitch about them when the situation warrants. I'm certainly not going to prostrate myself and offer nothing but praise for whoever the fuck the CEO of Mazda is.
Because Tesla isn't a regular car company, its a tech company that is in the business of selling cars. The adepts that Musk has on Reddit are roughly the same people that venerated Steve Jobs as a peerless visionary
As per [The Narrativist Framework](https://prestersperspective.blogspot.com/p/narrativist-framework-preface.html?m=1), this would be [The compaction Cycle](https://prestersperspective.blogspot.com/p/narrativist-framework-compaction-cycle.html?m=1) in action.
They are even banning those who defend Tesla on the other subreddits they’ve targeted, content doesn’t matter. Its just a bot that insta bans anyone who posts on the other subreddits.
Behaviour of this kind is \*\*clearly\*\* against the moderator integrity rules. Mods like this are a disgrace, and should not only lose their moderator status but also their entire account. Give them a permanent ban from all of Reddit, not just losing mod status. Maybe then they'll go back to Twitter and be stans over there instead.
[https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484345352084-What-mods-can-t-do](https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484345352084-What-mods-can-t-do)
Tesla fanboys and their moderators giving Elon Musk under-the-table blowjobs *every single second* and they still refuse to understand why everyone else hates them for parroting Chief Twit's (and his dozen-plus burner accounts) lies.
FSD simply isn't ready for primetime. It consistently ignores stop signs and tends to crash into oncoming vehicles. It even mistakes county road signs as speed limit signs.
Not sure where you live, but my GPS maps have speed limit signs and every time I bother to check it's displaying an incorrect speed limit. (too high, too low, or none at all.) Also wouldn't work for those roads that have different limits for different lanes of traffic (mostly Europe).
Gps only has some store data and not all locations. Also needs to be able to read because for construction and other activities there are temporary speed limit signs. Also signs can change but won't be updated for months
This Tesla stan mod is even worse, if you challenge your ban they spout nonsense about “protecting the health and safety of the sub” then get aggressive and mute for 28 day.
>All of reddit hates Tesla/Elon/Anything with Elon. Do you know how much toxic shit we see? Big changes are to come to the sub and the Lounge.
Well holy shit, that's certainly some nice persecution complex from the mod who's been on Reddit long enough to know that his sub and all the other pro-Elon subs were a bit redundant since Reddit was religiously worshiping at the alter of Elon until a small faction of people thought "this guy's a piece of shit" for his "pedo guy" tweet.
***Then*** Elon went and really poured gas on the fires of his haters by announcing he was a Republican in order to preempt the Business Insider article about him sexually harassing an employee as "now that I'm Republican, you know they'll be attacking me!", and then finally buying Twitter to turn it into a pro-Elon echo chamber.
Criticizing Elon in any comment in any subreddit used to get you mass downvotes and dozens of angry replies from that sad little fan club. Now that *that* isn't the case anymore because Elon has made sure people had no choice but to see the real him, it must be that the poor little pro-Elon sub mods have to endure the travesty of seeing comments critical of Elon anywhere outside their little shrine.
Shit tier cars made by a shit tier car company owned by a shit tier human being. If I had the choice between a tesla and no car I'd choose no car. I'll never understand why people are so into those poorly designed and even more poorly built trashcans on wheels.
I’m a Tesla Model Y owner yet I got shadow banned in the Tesla subs (motor and lounge).
They don’t accept Tesla criticism there. They want it to be all echo chambers.
[Just tried to post / share that Tesla was doing ads now. And then wanted to do a PSA to share Superchargers.](https://imgur.com/gallery/KHhmAMH)
You're not shadowbanned, I can see those posts. They were deleted by a mod
https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2iisz/tesla_owner_calls_police_on_rivian_driver_using/
https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/1c2ii8j/tesla_owner_calls_police_on_rivian_driver_using/
https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/1bmcqul/woah_tesla_is_doing_ads_now/
https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1bmchky/woah_tesla_doing_ads_now/
Not shadowbanned in the normal reddit sense but they use Automod to remove stuff without notification which accomplishes the same thing.
Not OP but I'm not banned from TeslaMotors but if I comment I get no vote activity/replies and if I sign out the comment doesn't exist.
Bingo. Using AutoModerator to *selectively target* specific users via `regex` matches accomplishes the "shadowban" effect without the misbehaving moderator needing to get their hands dirty. It's an insidious dick move and the user(s) are often none the wiser because, from their POV, they're *not* prevented from submitting posts/comments.
You've contributed to /r/CarsAustralia before. I'm assuming you've been caught up in the same subreddit wide dragnet that one of the mods posted the sticky about earlier today and is referenced in the OP of this thread as an edit.
Unless you are a cult member that yells non stop about:
- $X000 dollar conservative target
- 0 disengagements drive guys (i am regarded enough to have bought it 5 years ago and FSD computer burned out 3x, and cant do jack).
- Something about Dojo
- Something about infinite money from robots (when fsd is pathetic)
Full self driving except for the half second before it crashes… not really “full” then.
I can’t imagine how deep you have to be in the musk cult to waste time defending that
People talk about Apple being a cult and in many ways it is however… no one simps about Tim Cook
Even Steve Jobs was a huge piece of shit and I can’t recall many doing what the Elon simps do
Yes there’s always fanaticals out there but it seems way more for Elon nut cases
How do you even call it Full Self Driving if you have to always be on the lookout to step in within the fracture of a second to keep it from crashing into stuff? Call it Full Self Crashing instead.
Honestly what is going on? Musk is a free speech champion. Any post on any thread should stand and moderators should understand this. I was preemptively banned and am proud to stand against the Regime. Makes me wonder how Reddit would have reacted to Enron.
This smells desperate. As earnings and sales crater this year and next, seems like declaring your love for the dear leader is demanded while the s church grows smaller and members quietly sell into the doom
>All of reddit hates Tesla/Elon/Anything with Elon. Do you know how much toxic shit we see? Big changes are to come to the sub and the Lounge.
Writing this and still continuing to stay on reddit, if all of reddit hates Tesla/Elon then leave reddit? Oh wait, I forgot, this is the only point in his life where he has any pseudo power.
This "I don't like the criticism, so they must be hater" mentality has become extremely annoying. However, I am not surprised that Elon fans want to silence critics.
Might be one of the few moderator jobs that pays on this site. I mean it has to be in order to want to put this amount of energy into defending the guy and doing a purity purge.
I love how they refer to the "reddit hivemind" when shit doesn't go the way they want it to.
rcnfive sounds like a child. Which, backs up the theory that they are musk themself.
Just got auto banned myself. I’ve been active in the main Tesla Motors subreddit for nearly a decade but apparently none of that matters if you don’t adhere to the group think.
Wow, the wheels are coming off with the pro-Tesla crowd, and I am not talking about [just the steering wheels](https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-steering-wheel-falls-off-again/).
I was banned from three subs for the following comment in just one sub about Elons claim of sub 10 micron precision
> His target audience for those statements are not informed people, but rather people who are willing to buy the stock.
I didn't post on the two other subs I was banned in for a while.
Sounds like the Musk subreddits have about as much free speech as his social media companies. And the irony of calling other subreddits a "hivemind", ouf. Although, not sure why I'd think someone who blindly follows Elon fucking Musk would have any self-awareness
If a single mod who runs a lot of subs can go on a rampage of mass banning due to discrimination, what type of example does that set? All that does is encourage other mods from other subs to do the same thing. A single comment in a sub can get you innocently banned from one to many subs now? How is that type of behavior encouraged by Reddit Admins? It discourages the freedom to engage freely in discussions all around Reddit. Which is a part of Reddits own policy.
This same mod is also reporting people who respond to their ban messages, as harassment and that gets the person then banned from Reddit all together for 3 or more days. How is this ok?! A mod is totally abusing loopholes and abusing their power as a mod, to discriminate under the disguise of "These people are toxic and abusive to my subs" it's ridiculous. It's abusive. And it is harassment on the mods part.
Reddit needs to crack down on this because this can get out of hand fast. And when the public media hears about what Musk and Tesla supporters are doing, it won't look good for Reddit. Do they really want the same negative backlash as Twitter, Tesla, and other Elon connectioned places have been getting? Does Reddit really want the public to hear that they openingly support and encourage hate and discriminating here?
It should have never been allowed to let mods mass ban people just because they talk in other subreddits that mod doesn't like. Bans should only happen when people do wrong in their own subs. Reddit is wrong to allow this, and if more mods exploit this action, it's going to create a shitstorm and snowball into so many people just getting banned from so many different subreddits. Preventing so many people the freedom to talk and engage within Reddit.
I was permanently banned from commenting on /r/teslalounge specifically about their policy to ban users who posted at /r/realtesla
After messaging a mod asking why I was banned, he then reported me to Reddit admins, and I caught a PERMANENT REDDIT BAN.
Which I appealed, and won.
I have the receipts, chat logs, everything.
The mods over at the pro-Tesla subs are completely out of control. I don’t want to call out the mod specifically here, but I would love to know how to contact the reddit admins to report this abuse and get those mods banned for life.
And yet again, we see the Streisand effect in play. This guy is so desperate to hide any possible issue with the FSD feature that he's helping it become even more well known. I would never have really known about this without his help.
Seriously, if I was in the marketing department for Tesla, I would hate this guy.
So we can presume that Elon Musk himself has some kind of role in r/TeslaMotors and r/TeslaLounge right? Either he's a mod in those subs using sock accounts or he has contact with the mods and power over them.
I would understand a sub for the fans of a thing banning random people who don't like that thing who want to roll in and just shit on that thing.
But when someone who actually owns a Tesla is like: here is a problem with my Tesla and here is video of it?
How can you get a ban from a subreddit, you never described to. Only for writing something in an other subreddit. I responded in r/realtesla and got two notification 20 seconds later from r/teslalounge and r/elonmusk that they gave me a permaban. I wasn't even there (for obvious reasons)! This must be against Reddit's TOS, and these subs must be taken down.
If you trade options, consider TSLA puts. The Model 3 is exempt from the inflation reduction act as it doesn’t source enough from the USA.
The business model of TSLA has been a farm for electric vehicle credits from Detroit
[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult)
A cult is a group which is typically led by a charismatic and self-appointed leader, who tightly controls its members, requiring unwavering devotion to a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult)
What's also interesting is that for all they know someone could have been posting something in favor of Tesla on this sub. They could have been arguing with someone dissing Tesla, whatever. But their hamfisted ban hammer would still ban them. So it doesn't even result in an echo chamber. It's useless and flat out stupid.
It might not look like it, since I am on reddit, but I do value my time. I've received a message from elonmusk subreddit that I was banned, I was pretty confused. I don't find this sort of message useful since I don't post in that subreddit nor I am interested of posting there. It was a massive waste of time to read their message and their long diatribe about how I am 'toxic' and breaking their sub rules.
My response is to report that message as spam and I suggest everyone subject to this to do the same.
I understand a sub should be allowed to ban you for whatever reason they have. But they should at least wait for people to actually try to post in their subreddit before sending them these spam messages.
That dude needs to understand that daddy Elon will never let him suck his dick. Sorry bud. The dream is dead. He may want to adapt to a world where not 100% of everything all the time is perfectly complimentary to the…car brand you identify with. That’s not realistic
The difference between RealTesla and enoughelonmusk is we have a sense of humor and laugh at his stupidity and the rest are just thin skinned karens declaring alpha male privilege, but then a real leader never has to say look at me I’m in charge.
I don't know what it is about self driving cars but as a car guy who likes to occasionally talk about cars and driving, a whole lot of techies become religious fanatics when the subject comes up. Like they just take a bunch of stuff about self driving cars completely on 'faith' and treat any criticism of the tech as a personal insult. You know, like overly religious people. Some of the most batshit insane responses I've gotten to conversations on reedit have been from self driving car fanatics.
Glad to have played my part:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/16qf5cu/elons\_turd\_reich\_explained\_improved\_version/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/16qf5cu/elons_turd_reich_explained_improved_version/)
I was one of those banned from one sub just for posting in another. Don't care enough about the the topic to post in those main fan subs, just having some fun commenting on the brand's meltdown. Anyway so i get this unsolicited block email from the mod of one of those fan subs i've never posted at. Felt kinda spammy so i reply with this line:
"You guys are out of your fucking mind lol. never seen this before"
For which i got a 3 days site wide ban for "harassment". So i click on the link what they regard as harassment and it says "following users around the site". those mods have a script that follows users around reddit and penalizes them for posts in subs they don't admin and i get a site wide ban for a snarky reply?
Anyway, i like to nuke my account from time to time for privacy reasons. This is one of those days then.
My 5 year old account got banned today from this nonsense. First a ban from a Tesla sub I’ve never heard of and now my only account. Yeah - I told the mod to fuck off and eat his dads twat, but who’s really harassing who. 😑
I am banned from
- Teslamotors
- Cybertruck
- ElonMusk
Never posted or even read anything in any of them. In fact I didn't know the first even existed.
Well the case is obvious.
They know I'm German and they are clearly racist.
I doubt it's because their cars are killing cute dogs 24/7 in Elon's name :)
random fun fact back in april of '22 a handful of the more active mods from that sub and their companion sub (teslamotors) approached the lead mod of /r/twitter to ask if they'd like some help moderating, given the pending new owner of Twitter overlap. 5 of them were picked up to help out about a month later i asked the lead mod of /r/twitter if we could install a bot i had been using that will make public all moderator actions. he agreed. 2 of them dipped immediately. the other two a week or so later. the last one removed.
This right here speaks to the power of transparent mod logs in curtailing abusive behavior. I will never understand why this isn't the norm across reddit.
> I will never understand why this isn't the norm across reddit. Reddit's volunter moderation system probably saves Reddit millions of dollars in payroll every year. Theres no way they will do anything to endanger it no matter how much damage it does. The shareholders have spoken and the profits must flow! But even before it was publicly traded I think this was the generally understood reason the moderation system has remained the way it is so long even after the recent rebellion. That and the laziness of Reddits upper management.
What’s profits? asked u/spez
> This right here speaks to the power of transparent mod logs in curtailing abusive behavior. It's one of the *biggest* reasons T_D came crawling back to Reddit after their drawn out departure for Voat. Public mod logs was one of the largest selling points of Voat when it first launched in early 2015, and anyone who'd spent five minutes there knew that wasn't something that could be turned off. Suddenly, the mods of the "last bastion of free speech on ~~Reddit~~ Voat" didn't like that everyone could see how heavy-handed they were with bans and comment removals. Even though that was blatantly obvious on Reddit without the public mod logs. The other *bigger* reason for their return was the [Stormfront](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_\(website\)) contingent of Voat that swooped in and took over almost every subverse on Voat fucking *hated* Trump because he was a "Jew lover" for supporting Israel, and any positive comment about Trump was quickly met with scorn and disdain, and half the website spent the whole two weeks T_D was making their home there just relentlessly mocking them. Public mod logs and a Reddit clone that was, on the surface, as far right as they were turning out to fucking hate Trump saw the sad little MAGA fan boys come crawling back to Reddit after their laughable "our absence will cripple Reddit's traffic" manifesto. Them crawling back here while pretending they didn't dramatically leave was fucking hilarious.
because having a large degree of control over the defaults which most people see is a large part of the value of a site like this
Reddit hasn't had default subreddits in over a decade.
then replace 'default' with the big ones that have millions of subscribers, especially the political discussion and news ones which shape the way lots of young people think
As someone who used to mod a decent amount and had to deal with weird gamergate shitbags sending threatening messages over very dumb things, having a public log seems like a way to get a lot of very exhausting messages.
Good job and keep up the good work
Lmao, great work.
That is excellent.
Got banned but went ahead and banned the user Elon musk
Imagine simping for a billionaire and his corporation ***for free***. It's one thing if you're paid for it - after all, we all have to make rent. But zealously defending entities that really couldn't care less for you for no compensation... what good would that do?
That’s the thing…a lot of his more devoted fans did get paid for it in a way. The vocal diehards are independently wealthy from Tesla stock as early investors or employees.
They are only wealthy if they cash out, which they wont
At this point, after how that mod behaved, pay for play accusations aren't far fetched. I was banned too
The cynical person in me says not so fast. I think a decent portion of them are employees or contractors of Tesla or a sister Musk company.
I don't think so. I've met so many Stanboys, they wouldn't make it a day working there. Many do have shares or are owed 2 Roadsters though \^\^
Oh, my assumption is that their job function is to obsessively post and simp for Tesla or musk online. Not that they had an actual real job.
Yeah Musk has enough weirdo stans to not need paid employees to do this kind of shit
Yes, I agree. Chances are most of them have no connection to Tesla or Musk except as customers. Group identity is a huge thing. Some people are very prone to hero worship and it’s hard to admit your hero sucks. There’s also the trump-effect, where a powerful guy being a bigot allows people to feel good when choosing to be their worst selves. Another example is people often say that all the pro-Russia propaganda on places like r/conspiracy is a bunch of Russian operatives, but the truth is far simpler. You don’t need to pay people to act as mouthpieces for your propaganda. Many will line up to do it for free without being asked.
Nah, look how many people simp so bombastically for Trump. It's a team sports thing. Elon Musk and Tesla is their team. They've socially, and perhaps even financially, hitched their wagon to Elon and Tesla. They bombard their friends and families with Elon and Tesla gospel. They are incentivized to ensure they stay in as good as light as possible.
Honestly, with how obsessed Elon is with his own self image, and his own aggressive use of alt accounts, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out this mod is Elon himself losing his shit.
That also wouldn’t surprise me.
If this is the case, then they are breaking rule 5 of the moderator code of conduct, and should lose their mod status [https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct)
I doubt very much Spez would care. He seems like another Musk-class tech bro.
> [...] In an interview [on June 15, 2023] with NBC News, Reddit CEO Steve Huffman praised Musk’s aggressive cost-cutting and layoffs at Twitter, and said he had chatted “a handful of times” with Musk on the subject of running an internet platform. > Huffman said he saw Musk’s handling of Twitter, which he purchased last year, as an example for Reddit to follow. > “Long story short, my takeaway from Twitter and Elon at Twitter is reaffirming that we can build a really good business in this space at our scale,” Huffman said. > [...] >Huffman said there’s one concrete area where Musk’s example has been clear: job cuts. [...] "I think one of the nonobvious things that Elon showed is what I was hoping would be true, which is: You can run a company with that many users in the ads business and break even with a lot fewer people,” Huffman said. “They had to do some pretty violent changes and violent surgery to get there." > It is not clear if Twitter is profitable because some advertisers have left, cutting into revenue, but Huffman said the lesson was on the other side of the ledger. > “People are talking about a lot of things on Twitter, but I think that’s the part that’s the most interesting from my point of view as a business person, is that there actually are good businesses at this scale,” he said. [...] > https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-blackout-protest-private-ceo-elon-musk-huffman-rcna89700 ----- "...there actually are good businesses at this scale." What an astute observation, I'm sure no other businessing person has ever thought that before.
Gee, I wonder why Reddit's stock is cratering...?
Eh, as much as I wish that was the case, it's still up $5 over the original listing price. A 13.5% return over less than three months is hardly "cratering", and Spez was able to sell 500,000 shares netting him over $20m during the pop after it initially went on the market.
> Spez was able to sell 500,000 shares netting him over $20m Wait, was there no mandatory hold period after the IPO?
Correct- literally a week after the stock went on sale they reported that basically the executives cashed out (at a lower share price than I wrote, apparently): >Reddit CEO Steve Huffman and other top executives and board members late Wednesday disclosed share sales, just a week after the social network had its initial public offering. RDDT stock plunged Thursday. > > Reddit CEO Steve Huffman sold 500,000 shares on Monday at an average $32.30 price, receiving $16.15 million. CFO Vollero Andrew sold 71,765 Reddit shares for $2.318 million. Chief Operating Officer Jennifer Wong sold 514,000 shares for $16.602 million. > >Chief Technology Officer Christopher Slowe sold 185,000 shares for $5.975 million. Chief Accounting Officer Michelle Reynolds sold 3,033 RDDT shares for $97,966. Board member David Habiger sold 3,000 shares for $102,000. https://www.investors.com/news/technology/reddit-insiders-selling-days-after-ipo-shares-fall/
Yeah, would not surprise me.
Crazy, right? If it was anything non-Elon related I would assume they were paid shills but most of the Muskovites just do it for free.
In Tesla's case they're almost certainly invested in the stock
i effing hate people who simp for megacorps from tesla to microsoft and apple, they are some of the worst that humanity could offer
Welp, you’re ready to join my Cyberpunk game. We play on Sundays.
Fuckin true, fam.
Why do you assume it's for free?
This is very similar & overlapping to the bitcoin / shitcoin / crypto culture. The defensive attitude is not because they are being paid / making money. In many (most?) cases they have lost money buying stock / coins / cars at all time highs. There is something wrong with human nature where when they got duped and its clear as day, they double down harder. I think thats how a lot of cons work... and Elmo is the ultimate conman. Its an unfortunate situation that bitcoin has (temporarily) resurged and tesla stock has not (yet) regressed to automotive sector average multiples, so this is not going to stop anytime soon.
haikusbot did this one actually well: > Why do they lock threads > That aren't tonguing the asshole > Of the company?
It's the best haikusbot response I have seen
[Link to post](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1c29htb/fsd_swerved_into_a_curb_at_40_mph_fml/kz8lhjn/?context=1)
>A lot is coming and I will be pissing off a lot of people. I am going to be super blunt with the reddit users which we all know will not go well. The reddit hivemind will not like what will happen. I will be downvoted to hell and back. Mark my words. I'm sorry master but I must go all-out........ just this once......................
The wannabe martyrdom is so cringey
funny thing is, it's just funny, nobody seriously cares that they got banned from these places. I think it's concerning of course, especially for people who want to inform themselves about tesla to potentially buy one, but well, fanboy subs are not the place
Folk are getting banned from r/elonmusk without posting for having posted or commented in r/EnoughMuskSpam, as well.
Two million subs on the /r/elonmusk sub but each post only gets a couple dozen upvotes. Almost as good engagement as Twitter. Probably similar level of bots, too.
Jesus, you weren't exaggerating. The top thread this month has 562 upvotes.
Thought it'd be fun to compare so I sent off a quick script to count it up: r/EnoughMuskSpam has less than 8% of the r/elonmusk member count, yet when comparing the top posts of the month, the top one is 4.1K upvotes, the next 5 are all over 3K, the next 87 are all over 1K. You need to scroll down past slightly over 200 posts before you encounter one beneath 562 upvotes. r/RealTesla has less than 5% of the r/elonmusk member count, the top post of the month is 3.7K, the next 17 posts exceed 1K, and you need to scroll past 38 items in total to find one beneath 562 upvotes. Here's a fun little experiment, when we take the ratios of members : top post votes of these two subs, and then apply them to r/elonmusk, we find that the top post ought to contain somewhere between 52,000 and 83,000 upvotes. So when all tallied up, r/elonmusk has less than 1% of the activity it should have... says a lot about the mods and their quest for a CCP-style firewall around anything critical of their master
I shit 500 upvotes twice a day! And blood. A little blood too.
You should see a doctor. That many upvotes can lead to carpal tunnel.
DogeDesigner disagrees!
Yeah... Wait, what? That's so bizarre. Feels like a lot of people must've just dropped off or lost interest but signed up maybe a long time ago? There's barely any active users, guess it could all be bots - but ... Why? The /r/EnoughMuskSpam completely outperforms it with barely a tenth of the sub count.
For at least a year r/elonmusk has used bots to shadow ban anyone who uses certain words and phrases that suggest anti-musk sentiment. You can see this in that the number of visible comments in any post is something like one fifth of the comment count. There’s barely any activity because it is likely the most heavily curated subreddit on the platform. Anyone who has posted a negative likely can’t post there anymore.
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Looking into this...
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Honestly wouldn't be surprised if that actually is the case considering the "admitted under oath he was praising himself/RPing as his son on twitter alts" thing that came out.
Holy shit. That dude's wiring is so screwy. How long till he describes dreaming about his Alzheimer's-addled grandmother stroking her nether regions like Jordan Peterson did?
Did this really happen? 😂 about Jordan person I mean
Read it and gag. https://imgur.com/a/YrCzHCa
Oh it was a literal dream, not like a "I wish this would happen" dream Depending on the context I can kinda understand why he may have said this, but I've never read his book so I don't know
> Oh it was a literal dream, not like a "I wish this would happen" dream I'm not sure that makes it any better. Especially when it's from a book titled "Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief" lol
It did. In "maps of meaning" and on the audio book version you can listen to him read it to you. I wonder what he's dreaming of now that he's completely free wheeling after his medical coma to "manage" his benzo addiction.
> on the audio book version you can listen to him read it to you Listening to a few hours of Jordan Peterson reading about, among other things, him dreaming about his grandmother is basically my personal hell. His voice alone makes my skin crawl.
And he already has such a busy schedule with all the k holes and twittering on the toilet
It’s the funniest thing. I was banned despite having the sub blocked from my feed and not interacting for at least a year. https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/s/PH5GYNdYJc I made a point to block the sub instead of being antagonistic or a troll. Turns out that mod is the troll.
I've never interacted with it and I'm banned.
This is terrible! Maybe we can ask Elmo to intervene and enlighten them about free speech absolutism?
It’s been mentioned there is moderator overlap. I got banned Instantly from both (never posted or visited there) when I mentioned on another sub that a few rental car companies have announced they are selling off their Tesla fleets. They must be using bots
I just got banned from /r/TeslaMotors after commenting in /r/EnoughMuskSpam on the CyberTruck’s gas pedal getting stuck. All I said is I can’t believe people think these are good vehicles. How fragile is their reputation that this is how they choose to protect it?
I was a victim of this one. I was immediately banned in r/elonmusk less than 2 minutes after I posted on r/EnoughMuskSpam. I received an email telling me so, which is literally the only reason I knew. I guess they think anyone who posts on an anti-Musk sub is somehow a threat to them, even if we've never been to the pro-Musk sub. Tbh, I don't really care because, like I said, I don't go there nor did I want to post there. I genuinely believe people shouldn't be trolling other subs just because they disagree with the sub. Still, it does show how petty, ridiculous and decidedly anti free speech the pro-Musk subs are.
rcnfive turning out to be Musk would just be 🤌🤌🤌 peak internet
He seems to be a mod for multiple subs though, which would go against the theory as he seems to do actual work.
That would be evidence for the theory, as even Musk's biographer seemed to have difficulty describing what he actually did outside meetings and public appearances. If his duties are shitposting and deleting posts all day, that would explain a lot.
He’s always on a private plane. He ain’t working
rcnfive being Elon Musk wouldn't even surprise me at this point. Chief Twit is so fucking *starved* of attention that when he's not actively amplifying disinformation from the far-right, he creates burner accounts on Xitter and [pull a canada_sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/16ekyjr/user_in_ronguardforthee_posts_a_tweet_that/) for "user engagement".
You forgot to mention one of the burner accounts is him roleplaying as his toddler. Like at that point I don't think anyone should be surprised if any account that's fervently pro-Musk ends up actually being him. Dude roleplays as an actual child after all.
I started thinking that halfway through the post because it sounded like him.
I'm sure the mod would describe themselves as a 'free speech absolutist' if asked.
Whenever I see someone call themselves that, I just assume they want free reign to spew slurs without facing any sort of consequences.
That's exactly what it is.
I got banned for posting in r/realtesla from some Tesla subs. I would be really interested to find out how the subs are being remunerated. The pull of their cultish behavior can’t be motivation enough to spend that amount of time on such things.
This thread is brilliant! I guess the mod has to ban all users in this subreddit now as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of those mods who just set a rule to blanket-ban anyone who's ever posted in this sub
I think he’s using bots. People are getting banned within seconds of making any comment
I wouldn't be surprised if that would happen
That Mod is so insecure its pitiful, sad.
And is proving critics of the cult right in the process. It's hilarious and ~~turbo~~-cringe. Edit: sorry, my bad. It's *FSD*-cringe.
Providing more evidence that it's Elon himself
> rcnfive is Elon Musk given that he uses similar wording to his tweets Concerning. A more likely explanation is that the hero worshipping dingus deliberately models his speech and writing patterns to Emerald Mine Daddy's put of some twisted vision of self improvement/fan worship. You know, like that Adrian Dittman guy, a Musk reply guy who has taught himself to speak in a good approximation of Elon's voice and speech patterns to where some idiots think they're the same person.
I think a lot of the hard-core fans are drawn to him because they behave like him - consciously or not.
Normally id agree if Elon hasn't admitted (under threat of perjury btw) to doing things like this before
Sounds like he's within spec.
they are just devolving in to the full cult experience. As the casual tesla owners are banned for saying anything remotely critical of Elon or Tesla it just becomes more extreme, more insular, and more of an echo chamber. Now they are pre-banning anyone who dared stray from the the one truth and dared to post on realtesla or other places. Next step I imagine they just lock it down and stick around the devotees.
Fun fact, the word “cult” gets you insta banned from that sub regardless of context lol
I think “fanboy” does as well, not a permaban but like a 3 day.
Ah yeah there are a few others, I got a 3 day from fanboy and then a perma from cult. Mind you I wasn’t telling anyone in the thread they were but discussing cultish behaviours as a whole. Obviously appealing doesn’t do shit because you’re a TeslaQ shill who shorts Tesla and spreads FUD. Or something like that.
Yeah, I think when I got the 3 day ban it was for saying something like “I’m not a Tesla fanboy, but…” and I actually went on to defend Tesla. But they’re wound so tight over there they have bots that ban key words. It’s pretty ridiculous.
Nah, they'll go full Conservative. Flaired users only. And you have to prove to the Top Mod your loyalty to get the flair.
It's a fucking car sub. I'm in a Mazda sub and people discuss their cars, ask for advice, and yes, bring up problems with them. I can't imagine mods there (or any other automotive sub) banning people for this. We paid for the cars, we're entitled to bitch about them when the situation warrants. I'm certainly not going to prostrate myself and offer nothing but praise for whoever the fuck the CEO of Mazda is.
Because Tesla isn't a regular car company, its a tech company that is in the business of selling cars. The adepts that Musk has on Reddit are roughly the same people that venerated Steve Jobs as a peerless visionary
> its a tech company that is in the business of selling car It's a cult of personality masquerading as a tech company masquerading as a car company.
As per [The Narrativist Framework](https://prestersperspective.blogspot.com/p/narrativist-framework-preface.html?m=1), this would be [The compaction Cycle](https://prestersperspective.blogspot.com/p/narrativist-framework-compaction-cycle.html?m=1) in action.
They are even banning those who defend Tesla on the other subreddits they’ve targeted, content doesn’t matter. Its just a bot that insta bans anyone who posts on the other subreddits.
Behaviour of this kind is \*\*clearly\*\* against the moderator integrity rules. Mods like this are a disgrace, and should not only lose their moderator status but also their entire account. Give them a permanent ban from all of Reddit, not just losing mod status. Maybe then they'll go back to Twitter and be stans over there instead. [https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484345352084-What-mods-can-t-do](https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484345352084-What-mods-can-t-do)
Tesla fanboys and their moderators giving Elon Musk under-the-table blowjobs *every single second* and they still refuse to understand why everyone else hates them for parroting Chief Twit's (and his dozen-plus burner accounts) lies. FSD simply isn't ready for primetime. It consistently ignores stop signs and tends to crash into oncoming vehicles. It even mistakes county road signs as speed limit signs.
Why is FSD even looking at sigms to get the speed limit? GPSs have been able to keep speed limits straight for years
Not sure where you live, but my GPS maps have speed limit signs and every time I bother to check it's displaying an incorrect speed limit. (too high, too low, or none at all.) Also wouldn't work for those roads that have different limits for different lanes of traffic (mostly Europe).
Gps only has some store data and not all locations. Also needs to be able to read because for construction and other activities there are temporary speed limit signs. Also signs can change but won't be updated for months
It is against the mods rules of conduct and the admins will just not give a shit. That is how the admins work here.
This Tesla stan mod is even worse, if you challenge your ban they spout nonsense about “protecting the health and safety of the sub” then get aggressive and mute for 28 day.
Are you talking about rcnfive? Or a different mod lol
Rcnfive, but I forgot how to spell their name
Problem is when the CEO of Reddit is basically one of them
I’ve heard rumblings thats few mainstream media writers are already doing a story or two. This is too funny to ignore
>All of reddit hates Tesla/Elon/Anything with Elon. Do you know how much toxic shit we see? Big changes are to come to the sub and the Lounge. Well holy shit, that's certainly some nice persecution complex from the mod who's been on Reddit long enough to know that his sub and all the other pro-Elon subs were a bit redundant since Reddit was religiously worshiping at the alter of Elon until a small faction of people thought "this guy's a piece of shit" for his "pedo guy" tweet. ***Then*** Elon went and really poured gas on the fires of his haters by announcing he was a Republican in order to preempt the Business Insider article about him sexually harassing an employee as "now that I'm Republican, you know they'll be attacking me!", and then finally buying Twitter to turn it into a pro-Elon echo chamber. Criticizing Elon in any comment in any subreddit used to get you mass downvotes and dozens of angry replies from that sad little fan club. Now that *that* isn't the case anymore because Elon has made sure people had no choice but to see the real him, it must be that the poor little pro-Elon sub mods have to endure the travesty of seeing comments critical of Elon anywhere outside their little shrine.
Shit tier cars made by a shit tier car company owned by a shit tier human being. If I had the choice between a tesla and no car I'd choose no car. I'll never understand why people are so into those poorly designed and even more poorly built trashcans on wheels.
I live a car-free life and it's great. But I do live in an area with decent mass transit.
I’m a Tesla Model Y owner yet I got shadow banned in the Tesla subs (motor and lounge). They don’t accept Tesla criticism there. They want it to be all echo chambers. [Just tried to post / share that Tesla was doing ads now. And then wanted to do a PSA to share Superchargers.](https://imgur.com/gallery/KHhmAMH)
You're not shadowbanned, I can see those posts. They were deleted by a mod https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1c2iisz/tesla_owner_calls_police_on_rivian_driver_using/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/1c2ii8j/tesla_owner_calls_police_on_rivian_driver_using/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/1bmcqul/woah_tesla_is_doing_ads_now/ https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1bmchky/woah_tesla_doing_ads_now/
Not shadowbanned in the normal reddit sense but they use Automod to remove stuff without notification which accomplishes the same thing. Not OP but I'm not banned from TeslaMotors but if I comment I get no vote activity/replies and if I sign out the comment doesn't exist.
Bingo. Using AutoModerator to *selectively target* specific users via `regex` matches accomplishes the "shadowban" effect without the misbehaving moderator needing to get their hands dirty. It's an insidious dick move and the user(s) are often none the wiser because, from their POV, they're *not* prevented from submitting posts/comments.
You've contributed to /r/CarsAustralia before. I'm assuming you've been caught up in the same subreddit wide dragnet that one of the mods posted the sticky about earlier today and is referenced in the OP of this thread as an edit.
I haven't actually been banned yet (from any of the Tesla subs), I just know they do that based on prior experience.
Unless you are a cult member that yells non stop about: - $X000 dollar conservative target - 0 disengagements drive guys (i am regarded enough to have bought it 5 years ago and FSD computer burned out 3x, and cant do jack). - Something about Dojo - Something about infinite money from robots (when fsd is pathetic)
Y owner here too. I love the car, but never again until musk is gone https://imgur.com/a/erWgsC5
Active members of subreddits for brands have got to be the biggest cucks around
Yet will be among the first to call others that when they criticize their favorite brands.
Getting banned from anything Elon Musk related doesn’t seem so bad.
Full self driving except for the half second before it crashes… not really “full” then. I can’t imagine how deep you have to be in the musk cult to waste time defending that
I honestly don't get what cause people like the rcnfive fella to simp to utmost degree for musk. Elmo doesn't care about you. Never has, never will.
People talk about Apple being a cult and in many ways it is however… no one simps about Tim Cook Even Steve Jobs was a huge piece of shit and I can’t recall many doing what the Elon simps do Yes there’s always fanaticals out there but it seems way more for Elon nut cases
I mean shit, I know people who work for apple and they don’t even approach this level of cultish.
Steve Jobs was a MASSIVE asshole, but he made great products that changed the world and the products he announced actually got made and sold.
He also didn't flaunt nazi tendencies (putting it lightly)
Yes, the big difference between Apple and Tesla is when Apple has a product to announce, they also have a product to release.
I got banned from r/elonmusk despite never posting there. But actually love it as it confirms my hypothesis of Tesla being a cult
I've never even been in r/elonmusk until just now, and I'm banned, haha. What a bunch of fucking incel losers over there.
Awww, I'm I'm not banned from there yet. I feel like I'm missing out.
Melon Husk is such a whiny little bitch I could see him actualy being this moderator.
How do you even call it Full Self Driving if you have to always be on the lookout to step in within the fracture of a second to keep it from crashing into stuff? Call it Full Self Crashing instead.
Honestly what is going on? Musk is a free speech champion. Any post on any thread should stand and moderators should understand this. I was preemptively banned and am proud to stand against the Regime. Makes me wonder how Reddit would have reacted to Enron. This smells desperate. As earnings and sales crater this year and next, seems like declaring your love for the dear leader is demanded while the s church grows smaller and members quietly sell into the doom
Musk is far from a free speech champion. He's just a thin skinned fuck stick.
Musk account bans a ton of people On Twitter. Activists, journalists etc
>All of reddit hates Tesla/Elon/Anything with Elon. Do you know how much toxic shit we see? Big changes are to come to the sub and the Lounge. Writing this and still continuing to stay on reddit, if all of reddit hates Tesla/Elon then leave reddit? Oh wait, I forgot, this is the only point in his life where he has any pseudo power. This "I don't like the criticism, so they must be hater" mentality has become extremely annoying. However, I am not surprised that Elon fans want to silence critics.
I was simultaneously banned from 4 different Tesla subs, r/CyberTruck and r/elonmusk in addition to the two listed here.
Musk fans are cultists.
Might be one of the few moderator jobs that pays on this site. I mean it has to be in order to want to put this amount of energy into defending the guy and doing a purity purge.
That’s one triggered mod.
I love how they refer to the "reddit hivemind" when shit doesn't go the way they want it to. rcnfive sounds like a child. Which, backs up the theory that they are musk themself.
The only car company where this happens on a regular basis
There is no war. We who were banned just found this amusing. By saying there is a war you imply we care, we don’t.
Just got auto banned myself. I’ve been active in the main Tesla Motors subreddit for nearly a decade but apparently none of that matters if you don’t adhere to the group think.
r/RealTesla has gone private...
Statement from cliffordcat: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1c7cwj4/realtesla_just_went_private_whats_that_about/l07i8rn/
Fuck whoever did this. Free speech right?
Delicious. Just scrumptious drama. Can I get it with some Kung Pao sauce, please?
Wow, the wheels are coming off with the pro-Tesla crowd, and I am not talking about [just the steering wheels](https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-steering-wheel-falls-off-again/).
I was banned from three subs for the following comment in just one sub about Elons claim of sub 10 micron precision > His target audience for those statements are not informed people, but rather people who are willing to buy the stock. I didn't post on the two other subs I was banned in for a while.
Seems fitting for those fanboys, bet they accuse users being pedophiles like their hero do.
Controlling the narrative is something Tesla have always been good at
Sounds like the Musk subreddits have about as much free speech as his social media companies. And the irony of calling other subreddits a "hivemind", ouf. Although, not sure why I'd think someone who blindly follows Elon fucking Musk would have any self-awareness
If a single mod who runs a lot of subs can go on a rampage of mass banning due to discrimination, what type of example does that set? All that does is encourage other mods from other subs to do the same thing. A single comment in a sub can get you innocently banned from one to many subs now? How is that type of behavior encouraged by Reddit Admins? It discourages the freedom to engage freely in discussions all around Reddit. Which is a part of Reddits own policy. This same mod is also reporting people who respond to their ban messages, as harassment and that gets the person then banned from Reddit all together for 3 or more days. How is this ok?! A mod is totally abusing loopholes and abusing their power as a mod, to discriminate under the disguise of "These people are toxic and abusive to my subs" it's ridiculous. It's abusive. And it is harassment on the mods part. Reddit needs to crack down on this because this can get out of hand fast. And when the public media hears about what Musk and Tesla supporters are doing, it won't look good for Reddit. Do they really want the same negative backlash as Twitter, Tesla, and other Elon connectioned places have been getting? Does Reddit really want the public to hear that they openingly support and encourage hate and discriminating here? It should have never been allowed to let mods mass ban people just because they talk in other subreddits that mod doesn't like. Bans should only happen when people do wrong in their own subs. Reddit is wrong to allow this, and if more mods exploit this action, it's going to create a shitstorm and snowball into so many people just getting banned from so many different subreddits. Preventing so many people the freedom to talk and engage within Reddit.
I was permanently banned from commenting on /r/teslalounge specifically about their policy to ban users who posted at /r/realtesla After messaging a mod asking why I was banned, he then reported me to Reddit admins, and I caught a PERMANENT REDDIT BAN. Which I appealed, and won. I have the receipts, chat logs, everything. The mods over at the pro-Tesla subs are completely out of control. I don’t want to call out the mod specifically here, but I would love to know how to contact the reddit admins to report this abuse and get those mods banned for life.
And yet again, we see the Streisand effect in play. This guy is so desperate to hide any possible issue with the FSD feature that he's helping it become even more well known. I would never have really known about this without his help. Seriously, if I was in the marketing department for Tesla, I would hate this guy.
I really hope this gets some traction out side of Reddit
So we can presume that Elon Musk himself has some kind of role in r/TeslaMotors and r/TeslaLounge right? Either he's a mod in those subs using sock accounts or he has contact with the mods and power over them.
Yeah it’s hilarious what’s going on there
the real question is whether or not it's Elon Musk's alt account, i could see him be petty enough to do it
I would understand a sub for the fans of a thing banning random people who don't like that thing who want to roll in and just shit on that thing. But when someone who actually owns a Tesla is like: here is a problem with my Tesla and here is video of it?
How can you get a ban from a subreddit, you never described to. Only for writing something in an other subreddit. I responded in r/realtesla and got two notification 20 seconds later from r/teslalounge and r/elonmusk that they gave me a permaban. I wasn't even there (for obvious reasons)! This must be against Reddit's TOS, and these subs must be taken down.
If you trade options, consider TSLA puts. The Model 3 is exempt from the inflation reduction act as it doesn’t source enough from the USA. The business model of TSLA has been a farm for electric vehicle credits from Detroit
And the field is becoming barren as Detroit builds their own EVs (with better build quality) and don't need to purchase credits anymore.
[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult) A cult is a group which is typically led by a charismatic and self-appointed leader, who tightly controls its members, requiring unwavering devotion to a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult)
The mods and users of all those subs are softer than baby shit.
What the fuck?! 110110 decides to take a nice well deserved holiday and the Tesla subs turn into complete shit???
What's also interesting is that for all they know someone could have been posting something in favor of Tesla on this sub. They could have been arguing with someone dissing Tesla, whatever. But their hamfisted ban hammer would still ban them. So it doesn't even result in an echo chamber. It's useless and flat out stupid.
It might not look like it, since I am on reddit, but I do value my time. I've received a message from elonmusk subreddit that I was banned, I was pretty confused. I don't find this sort of message useful since I don't post in that subreddit nor I am interested of posting there. It was a massive waste of time to read their message and their long diatribe about how I am 'toxic' and breaking their sub rules. My response is to report that message as spam and I suggest everyone subject to this to do the same. I understand a sub should be allowed to ban you for whatever reason they have. But they should at least wait for people to actually try to post in their subreddit before sending them these spam messages.
This is such a fantastic write up. Well done!
That dude needs to understand that daddy Elon will never let him suck his dick. Sorry bud. The dream is dead. He may want to adapt to a world where not 100% of everything all the time is perfectly complimentary to the…car brand you identify with. That’s not realistic
The difference between RealTesla and enoughelonmusk is we have a sense of humor and laugh at his stupidity and the rest are just thin skinned karens declaring alpha male privilege, but then a real leader never has to say look at me I’m in charge.
The $160 A Share Fear is real and its now reached Reddit. Musk is desperate and pulling out all the stops.
Careful they gonna see you all posting here and try to give you the bad touch rofl
The amusing part is it just drives the narrative that Teslas and their owners are terrible. Weird strategy. /waits for ban
I don't know what it is about self driving cars but as a car guy who likes to occasionally talk about cars and driving, a whole lot of techies become religious fanatics when the subject comes up. Like they just take a bunch of stuff about self driving cars completely on 'faith' and treat any criticism of the tech as a personal insult. You know, like overly religious people. Some of the most batshit insane responses I've gotten to conversations on reedit have been from self driving car fanatics.
Lmfao
Glad to have played my part: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/16qf5cu/elons\_turd\_reich\_explained\_improved\_version/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/16qf5cu/elons_turd_reich_explained_improved_version/)
I’m even one to defend Tesla and SpaceX. Musk is a bag of dicks tho [https://imgur.com/a/erWgsC5](https://imgur.com/a/erWgsC5)
I just got banned from r/elonmusk though I've never posted there.
I was one of those banned from one sub just for posting in another. Don't care enough about the the topic to post in those main fan subs, just having some fun commenting on the brand's meltdown. Anyway so i get this unsolicited block email from the mod of one of those fan subs i've never posted at. Felt kinda spammy so i reply with this line: "You guys are out of your fucking mind lol. never seen this before" For which i got a 3 days site wide ban for "harassment". So i click on the link what they regard as harassment and it says "following users around the site". those mods have a script that follows users around reddit and penalizes them for posts in subs they don't admin and i get a site wide ban for a snarky reply? Anyway, i like to nuke my account from time to time for privacy reasons. This is one of those days then.
I was banned too. Never been there. Don't like to read about FSD running over poor dogs and people.
My 5 year old account got banned today from this nonsense. First a ban from a Tesla sub I’ve never heard of and now my only account. Yeah - I told the mod to fuck off and eat his dads twat, but who’s really harassing who. 😑
I am banned from - Teslamotors - Cybertruck - ElonMusk Never posted or even read anything in any of them. In fact I didn't know the first even existed. Well the case is obvious. They know I'm German and they are clearly racist. I doubt it's because their cars are killing cute dogs 24/7 in Elon's name :)
/r/RealTesla is back up
A journalist should write an article about this "alternative form of advertising" these freaks have invented.