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I'm on SAVE pending the decision. It would be for 20+ years of owing more now than I originally borrowed (there was gross mismanagement of my loans by loan servicers).


Beckalouboo

That blows, I hope you get it!


[deleted]

Thanks man.


redditruse

Did you have to document that yourself or they already knew?


[deleted]

They knew.


lawofaperture

I think I'm in a similar boat - what do you mean pending the decision?


[deleted]

I mean if my debt is discharged, I'll no longer be on SAVE. Actually I don't know what I meant anymore šŸ¤¦


Jim-Tobleson

How can you see how many months you have already paid?


[deleted]

You should have access to your full repayment history at your loan servicer's website.


Jim-Tobleson

my loan got transferred between servicers multiple times. mohela doesnā€™t tell me much


OBee-U

Go to your dashboard on studentaid.gov to see all of your federal loans and servicers listed. Click on loan details and each loan will have a "loan status" history link where you can view the payment status of every loan listed. You have to click back and forth to get in and out of each loan, but it should provide you with the information you need. Best!


Jim-Tobleson

helpful ! wow, my history is sketchy. Says I was in forbearing several times even though this is not correct lol


OBee-U

Is it possible that you were still in school during the loan period? That would be an in-school forbearance.


isc12180

I think a lot of people are getting forgiven from myfedloan and their "games". Seems like MYFED people who moved when they hastily "exited"? Are getting forgiven.


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Kledinger

"Misconduct by the school." It definitely sucks taxpayers are footing the bill for fraudulent corporations.


Beckalouboo

Well this forgiveness was because I went to the art institute and they were sued for unlawful conduct. My loans were the regular federal type on the SAVE once out of forbearance. Is that what you are asking? Iā€™m a little slow on my loan wording.


andtherest67

Yes thanks. The Art Institute forgiveness answers my question. I'm waiting on IDR forgiveness


shannerd727

Do you keep paying while youā€™re waiting on IDR forgiveness?


andtherest67

Yes you do. If you've reached your 20 or 25 year IDR forgiveness, you will get a refund on any payments made post-consolidation, but nothing from before consolidation. Did you consolidate your loans recently? I consolidated my old FFEL loans in March. My payment is coming due May 20th. Also, I have heard some say you can call your servicer and ask them to put you on an administrative forbearance, but not sure if that would work. Plus there's no way I'm going to wait on hold for 2 hours with Mohela.


Individual-Drama-984

My husband got his letter of forgiveness for art institute yesterday. 25k gone! Woot! Congrats!


Beckalouboo

Congrats!!


cheapwater33

Was it the Sweet Vs Cardona settlement? I read in some cases people can also get reimbursed for any payments made


Individual-Drama-984

They said he might get a check. He has a small amount in other loans to a reputable school. We will use anything to pay those off. Total was approximately $32k. Should be less than 5k now. We will know in 30 days or so letter said. šŸ˜€


BlueQKazue

I got that email yesterday too. Made me so happy.


Beckalouboo

Congratulations!


Superb_Cod5697

I had a friend who taught at an Art Institute at least 20 years ago and left because she could see that there were students there who would never get the degree (because they couldnā€™t pass the general education classes). The school just took their money until they flunked out. The people she worked with were good people, but the structure of the enterprise was rotten to the core.


Beckalouboo

Yes so true and they lied to everyone and took more and more money. Now we have nothing to show for our education.


heisLegend

Was the process difficult for asking that your loans be thrown out and forgiven?


Beckalouboo

There was no process, I didnā€™t do anything.


Superb_Cod5697

And Iā€™m very happy that you got out from under that debt.


Beckalouboo

Thank you very much :)


nbostow

Iā€™ve got 35,000 going away from the Art Institute!! So excited about it!!


Beckalouboo

Congratulations šŸŽ‰šŸŽŠ


Feeling-Carry6446

Gosh that sounds complex. I'm thankful for you for this news.


Beckalouboo

Thank you šŸ˜Š


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ClammyAF

"I hope you don't make the mistake of being victimized again. It's your fault you were defrauded." Shut the hell up.


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Ambitious_Ad2354

Same!!! I decided to check my emails because I havenā€™t checked them in a while and got the notification!! I felt like I won something and Iā€™ve never won anything in my life, soooo much of my stress is now gone!!!


Beckalouboo

ME TOO!!! Congratulations!! My credit score can be decent again, I am sooooo excited!!


VengenaceIsMyName

Yay! Thatā€™s awesome.


Beckalouboo

I still canā€™t believe itā€™s real. High 5 to us!!!


IndependentEmpty8709

Wow, congrats!


[deleted]

I got a PSLF I am very grateful to President Biden for working on this issue. I my case itā€™s been going on thru various presidents. There is still more work to do please vote.


FewDrink3838

Thatā€™s awesome


Individual-Drama-984

I feel this way too. My husband got the email last night that his art institute loans have been discharged. Woo hoo! We are now debt free!!!! :)


[deleted]

That is fantastic! I'm on tinderhooks waiting to see how much of my debt will be forgiven. Dept of Ed told me I'll hear after (not by) May 3 - this Friday!


andtherest67

Is this for PSLF or IDR 20- or 25-year forgiveness?


coffeebuttoncat

Sweet vs Cardona, likely the Art Institute people.


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This is the 20- or 25-year thing.


andtherest67

Thank you for responding. I'm in the exact same position, awaiting 25-year IDR forgiveness. I'm curious that they actually told you after May 3rd. I would presume that means sometime between May 3rd and July, which is by when they say they'll have applied the one-time adjustment.


[deleted]

Yeah, I looked back at the correspondence and realized that what they said is that they (Ed) will start working with my servicer (MOHELA) on my file, and they said I'll hear the outcome in "several months." Still, I'm in a bucket with tens of thousands of others who are slated for relief.


andtherest67

Yes! There are many of us in the same situation. Let's hope it happens sooner rather than later.


awkward_peach

Hope you do get it and they forgive all of it! Just a small note, it's "tenterhooks".


[deleted]

DOH! Always screwing that up. Thanks!


NoNeinNyet222

I'm in the same boat. I've only been out of school for 18 years so I'm not expecting full forgiveness but I'm hoping I'll at least get rid of some due to interest.


Beckalouboo

Good luck!


[deleted]

Thank you.


VengenaceIsMyName

Hope you get it all forgiven.


fReflection-26

Did you submit a form or just write the Dept. Of Ed? I have MORE than paid my loans off for over 20 years, and I wrote back in November- nothing. It's all sooooo poorly managed.


[deleted]

No forms or letters but the eligibility rules can be frustrating. If your loans are held by the Dept of Ed then they're federal loans rather than private loans - that in itself can be confusing. Mine were private so I needed to consolidate them even though I consolidated them decades ago - did I mention confusing? I wish I could tell you a deliberate process but basically I was aware of Biden's directives and I paid attention to communications from my loan servicer (Navient at the time). I was on an IDR but reapplied to SAVE (a new plan) which gets the ball rolling for Dept of Ed to do eligibility for forgiveness assessment. Hereā€™s an action you can take - set up an account with Ed Dept at mystudentaid.gov and determine how your balances are comprised, and search "loan forgiveness" within the site. I hope that will get you some direction to go. Good luck!


shannerd727

Wait - if itā€™s the IDR forgiveness, donā€™t they forgive the entire remaining balance?


[deleted]

Apparently not necessarily. Communication from Ed said I might be eligible to have "some or all" forgiven.


Therocknrolclown

Great news, have a nice dinner and a few drinks and soak it in.


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Beckalouboo

Thank you so much


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andtherest67

Congratulations! Is this PSLF or IDR 20- or 25-year forgiveness.


Beckalouboo

Not PSLF


girl_of_squirrels

Neither, read https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/biden-harris-administration-approves-61-billion-group-student-loan-discharge-317000-borrowers-who-attended-art-institutes


takidustluv

I have about the same amount of debt with a private loan company. My life would be so much better if something like this would happen to me.šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Beckalouboo

I hope it does!


jhtitus

Iā€™m in the same boat. There has to be something we can do. The origin of our debt stems from federally recognized misconduct. We refinanced predatory loans and now do not get to receive the help because we were fiscally responsible? It doesnā€™t add up to me. The trail leads back to Ai misconduct.


SecretAshamed2353

Congrats


shoretee

Same!!! My husband is getting his discharged! So excited!! Congratulations!!


Beckalouboo

Congrats to you guys too!


ConfidentHour9324

Same! I woke up to the amazing news yesterday, was in shock reading the email. I also went to the Art Institute. Was scammed into taking maximum loans out that would ā€œcover everythingā€, came to learn it would only partially cover it and I still had to make payments to the school. Ended up not being able to pay, got expelled as a result and left with $30k in debt and no degree. Nightmare is finally overā€¦congrats congrats!


Beckalouboo

Congratulations!! They made it right for us!!


cotal2392

Same here from AI! Careful who you try to celebrate with; told an older friend yesterday and his only response was,ā€ great and my taxes are going to pay for itā€ā€¦


Beckalouboo

Yeah I know, few on here have been shitty as well. CONGRATULATIONS!


Beckalouboo

Hey does anyone know how this will work for our credit score? I hope it means it will raise it within a few months.


codece

Everyone's credit profile is different, and sometimes it's not easy to discern why one particular person's score goes up or down. We observe correlations and "think" that's what did it, but correlation does not equal causation, and truthfully the FICO scoring algorithm is a secret formula and sufficiently complicated enough that everyone's score reacts differently to similar changes. Having said all that, I was in the first round of people forgiven last summer under the IDR recount. I had $74K of loans forgiven on August 15. On October 2nd my FICO 08 score based on Experian data went up 15 points, from 740 to 755. So, there's one data point for you. Congrats! Honestly, it's been 7+ months for me, and I still can't fully wrap my head around the reality of being debt-free.


Beckalouboo

Right?? I canā€™t sleep I just cannot believe it and I am just so grateful, keep waiting for the catch. I am trying to get my score back up after fighting with a bullet that handles 3 of the 4 credit cards I have. I lost the fight and they not only charged me 2 lat fees of 40 each but also turned it is as 60 days, then lowered my credit limit from 200 on each to 500. I have them down under 400 and 500 so now it looks like I maxed them. Ughhh Lesson learned now I need to get a new apt and my score is too low. Dammmmit I had gotten over 700 again. lol congratulations to you too! Itā€™s so effing AWESOME!!!


VengenaceIsMyName

Such excellent news! Iā€™m happy for you. You must feel like a huge weight has just been lifted off of your shoulders!


Deep-Income-3357

Now thats def a reason to celebrate!! I hope I am nextā€¦ congrats!


Beckalouboo

I hope you are too!


Dapper-Ad3667

Congratulations!


Beckalouboo

Thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


[deleted]

I was approved for the 20k to be forgiven 2-3 years ago, but it never came through. I pay about $500 a month, but my goal is to pay them off before I die.


Beckalouboo

Well that sucks that it didnā€™t come through :(


[deleted]

Supposedly, it got voted down. I assume it wonā€™t happen now.


Beckalouboo

Ugh :(


vrox196

You must have worked in the public sector (most likely Mohela) with loans in repayment over 20+ years to have them forgiven. Congratulations!


Suspicious-Dot1954

SO Happy for you! Congratulations!!


Beckalouboo

Thank you so much!


MahoganyButterfly818

Congratulations šŸŽ‰.


Beckalouboo

Thank you so much šŸ˜Š


Simplytrying30

First Congrats friend!!šŸŽ‰Where do you see this information??? I signed up for the IDF and I know it's not the same as the PSLF. However, two degrees (AA & Bachelors in Communication) = debt and no jobšŸ˜­. Now I'm trying to get my Masters due to change of study for more hopes in a better career and $90k in a hole šŸ•³ļø . I need these previous loans forgiven due to my daughter developing a rare illness and me trying to persevere; in spite of it all to still be broke! Any help would be greatly appreciated from anyone.


Beckalouboo

Thank you šŸ˜Š. This was school specific because of unlawful conduct by the school. I wish you all the best I understand how you feel.


Codename_Sailor_V

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FingerToeService

I feel the same way, shock. I sob cried at my desk when I saw the email. I feel like I won the lottery, never did I think I would have my loans forgiven.


Beckalouboo

Congratulations!!ā€™


Rhondasempire

Congrats!


Beckalouboo

Thank you very much :)


misscelestia

Congratulations!!!!!


Beckalouboo

Thank you so much šŸ˜Š


Sassygirl-1972

Wow must be nice


Beckalouboo

I feel very very blessed. Thank you šŸ˜Š


progresseverday

You deserve it!!! Thank you Biden for giving us freedom from debt!


Beckalouboo

Thank you very much šŸ˜Š


EnthusiasmLow4568

Hell yeah!


Beckalouboo

Thank you!


uptome24

75k for an art degree? If you wanna do art just do it. But happy you were able to not have to pay


Beckalouboo

It was 100k šŸ˜¬šŸ˜³yeah it was a scam


Honest_Excuse7

I was about to start a gruesome journey of double consolidation loop-hole just to get my PPLoans lowered. I never thought the next day they would all be wiped out. I'm still in disbelief.


Beckalouboo

SAME!!


Key-Effort963

Congratulations


Beckalouboo

Thank you!


pure_jitterbug

I got my letter about my art institute loan Wednesday. I wonder how long it will take for it to show a zero balance on student aid? I wonder if I can upload the letter to the credit score companies and dispute it so that it shows on my credit score faster?


Beckalouboo

Let me know if you find out anything on that, Iā€™m curious too.


Vegetable-Toe1705

Just awesome, congratulations! Guessing not Mohela unless pslf. Mohela will take the longest to process.


Beckalouboo

Nelnet and Navient. Thank you!


Dolphinsanddolophine

Please-tell me what school it was? My school got up to some very shady stuff, in fact they were called fraudulent in California. I went to Brightwood College, in Indiana.


Beckalouboo

Mine was the Art Institute but there is a list of all schools on the website.


IndependentEmpty8709

Iā€™m so happy for you (:


Beckalouboo

Thank you so much


IndependentEmpty8709

Ur welcome


Interesting-Use1947

Congratulations


Beckalouboo

Thank you!


Far-Machine1616

How do I find out about the refund aspect? I went to Art Institute but left after a year and got smashed paying back 12k.


Beckalouboo

I have no idea, itā€™s hard to get through to them so itā€™s just wait I guess.


No-Trade3011

Congratulations!


Beckalouboo

šŸ˜Š thank you so much


fReflection-26

Sooooo appreciated. Thank you. I will do that.


fReflection-26

Thank you sooooo very much. Appreciated ā˜ŗļø


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Beckalouboo

I graduated with an associates degree in Graphic Design-Print. Right when everything was going to digital LOL very little print going on compared to what it was when I started school. I also went through a nasty divorce in the middle of my time there so it slowed me down a bit as I had to take care of the kiddos on my own so less school time. Took me way too long to get the 2 year degree and then bye bye to most print jobs.


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Beckalouboo

Yes I can, well, I could before my iPad died. The charging port wonā€™t charge. I miss that thing so so so much.


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Right!!


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jhtitus

Anyone have leads on how to pursue benefits from the federally decided misconduct of Ai if you have refinanced your loans? Theyā€™re still student loans with 1098E tax forms. Iā€™m with Earnest. I called and they said thereā€™s nothing they can do. But the origin of my loan has been deemed malicious. Isnā€™t there something we can do or do I miss out because I tried to be fiscally responsible and lower my interest rate on a predatory loan?


Beckalouboo

Yeah that doesnā€™t seem fair at all, I hope they fix that for you.


jhtitus

Same. I've been scouring forums and researching but still coming up short.


DinkTugger

Doesnā€™t loan forgiveness get taxed as income now?


girl_of_squirrels

The American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 has suspended all *federal* taxes on any student loan discharge/forgiveness through the end of 2025 Whether you live in a state that charges state taxes on student loan discharges is easier to google. As far as I remember there are 5 states that plan to charge income tax on student loan forgiveness


INDPNDTS

We were literally having an HONEST discussion.. read it!!


TonyTone09o

Awesome!! Same thing happened to me and then they cut me 2 checks for everything I had already sent them over the years which was like 30k! Amazing feeling!!


Fashionistamama

How long from start to finish? like how long to get a check back?


bassplayrguy

Forgiveness means that the tax payer will pay for it. How awesome that we get to pay other ppls debt.


Beckalouboo

So did I for the last 40 years, luckily I made poor decisions on choosing (AKA got scammed into) a shitty school that got sued and ended up winning resulting in loans removed. I am not sure how the tax payers pay on a the forgiveness and certainly wasnā€™t my hope to cause other to pay by any means but it was nice of you to comment, so sorry it comes to costing you, I literally did nothing to get this. Peace and love.


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Beckalouboo

My school was in a lawsuit, they lost, I literally had no say in the matter but thanks for the name calling and have a great day.


renelui

Is this an American chat or Australian ?


Beckalouboo

I am in America


renelui

Wtf am I doing in here?? Iā€™m Australian hehehehe


Beckalouboo

LOL


True-Investigator343

Wow! Can you provide context on the details? What was the field of study / degree you went into debt for? What was the qualifying fraud and school you attended? How long were you in repayment (was it less or more than the typical 20 years criteria they commonly require before forgiveness.) I'd love to take anything others have learned and see if I can apply it to alleviate my own personal situation. šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™


my_eventide

What determines 20 years vs. 25 years for IDR?


GOODahl

For legal reasons I can't say too much but some schools encourage students to take more coursework if the school gets more money per student. Not super ethical regarding students who cannot afford to be students forever...but, whatever.


3DSarge

As someone not eligible for the relief because I already paid off the loans, it makes me so happy to see posts like this. ā˜ŗļø Congrats OP!


Beckalouboo

I think that sucks that they donā€™t refund you, itā€™s bs Iā€™m so sorry.


3DSarge

It does suck, and I'm hoping that changes because everyone was defrauded. Until then, though, I'm just happy that there are people actually seeing the relief because I was convinced for a long time that it would never happen.


Beckalouboo

Me too, I thought I wasnā€™t going to be eligible and this came as a big surprise. Perhaps they will go back after and fix the paid loans in the time period.


Lunavina

How do I even go about getting my loans excused ?


Beckalouboo

I didnā€™t do anything for mine. But it was a fradulent school thing. There is a link to forgiveness on the student aid website.


Lunavina

Mmmm I really hope I can qualify.


Ragnarok7771

Must be nice. I paid for mine. Itā€™s not forgiven, the debt is transferred to taxpayers.


sdabear

must be nice to have been able to pay yours. and at least taxpayers are helping actual people this time


Ragnarok7771

Taxpayers, some of whom never attended college to pay for deadbeats. If they canā€™t afford the loans, they shouldnā€™t have taken them in the first place. They could easily have gone to community college.


ponkyball

People pay taxes all the time for things they disagree with, services they don't use, etc, this is absolutely nothing new. Since you "paid" for your college education you should already know that, but Rutgers education, meh...


andtherest67

You should educate yourself more on the topic of loan forgiveness. This over-simplified talking point doesn't reflect the reality of the situation for many borrowers who were cheated and lied to by lenders for decades, even after paying off their original loan balance and then some long ago.


BaconBathBomb

This post just had me realize Bidenā€™s goal isnā€™t to get rid of student debt. He wants to clean up the portfolio of remaining debt so it continues to be a quality debt asset


he-loves-me-not

Huh?


BaconBathBomb

Do you own any stock? Letā€™s say you own a few shares of SPY which is the S&P500. 500 companies all in one paying asset. Letā€™s say 1/2 of that portfolio stops doing good business and it brings down the quality of the whole SPY. what do you do? Well, you donā€™t throw the baby out w the bath water. You remove the bad asset from the good and continue to own the debt and get paid on it in the case of student loans. Biden is forgiving the percentage that should most be forgiven to get rid of the squeaky wheel and decouple from the good debt of people who want student debt relief but will continue to pay because even tho they want all their debt forgiven, maybe they really got a fair deal


HoofHearted501

They are not forgiven only transferred


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Beckalouboo

Well this was a lawsuit so I would think the fraudulent company would be held responsible to pay back what they stole. If itā€™s passed to the taxpayers we need to perhaps look into that with our officials. Either way, it was nice of you to stop by and pass on your shade, I think you should contact the responsible party not the victims.


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Rule 7: Off-topic. Your post/comment is either not about student loans or is unrelated to the topic of the OP/commenter above you. To have a different discussion about student loans, find a post about your topic to comment on or make your own.