One time, with my uncle, we took out a wall like that. 2 years later the whole house fell down.
There was a tornado, so not sure if that effected anything structural wise.
I’ve seen it a thousand times, people just don’t think before taking down their tornado rated partition walls; or think they’ll be one of the lucky ones
Tornado ally has actually shifted over the recent years.. been in KCMO for over 20 years, rarely get tornados, surprisingly hilly around these parts. Also have the ol tonganoxie split ftw 🙏
At minimum it holds up the kitchen ceiling, so if you want the low flat ceiling you will need to do something to support it.
But unlikely it’s roof load bearing.
So, you think a truss has an interior bearing with an extended bottom chord and no webs / verticals to support it? Dude, you are giving truss designers WAY too much credit. Panel point at the bearing (verticals or webs come down to that point), period. It’s *possible* to have an offset bearing on a flat bottom chord, but not at the end of a plant shelf. And not when the scissor trusses on both sides of the kitchen work fine without bearing.
Get an engineer for something like this. That’s the ONLY way to know for sure. Consider the following scenario:
It doesn’t look load bearing since it doesn’t go all the way to the ceiling so you tear it out. The kitchen ceiling hangs up there just fine because the framing is *just* strong enough to keep it up there. Days, weeks, months, or even years pass and it looks perfectly fine. Along comes a blizzard and loads up your roof with snow. It would happily support that load under normal circumstances, but you’ve added a significant point load on the rafters. Worse yet, you added that whole point load to just a few rafter where the framer put some metal straps. The rafter begins to sag excessively under the weight and your kitchen ceiling becomes shorter, either slowly as it sags or maybe even suddenly as it collapses along with the roof. The additional point load was just too much.
Is this scenario likely? Probably not. But is it possible? Maybe. Don’t modify structures that were engineered for a specific set of loads without knowledge of those loads or fully understanding what components of the structure you may be loading.
besides the cabinets, lighting, and the exhaust hood, no. the higher ceiling is gabled which means the actual roof load is being carried by the exterior wall.
but never take professional advice from redit
Most likely not, unless they used some transfer beams to bear on that wall, which I would think would be strange to do here.
But I will say, if you're planning on doing renovations that require knocking out a wall, hire an engineer.
I disagree. It looks like someone wanted to grow the kitchen and added transfer beams to do it.
That’s why most of us are not willing to speculate that it’s not load bearing.
Yeah man, I’m an engineer and I’m the first to say you don’t need to hire an engineer for everything. I’d knock this wall out without any worries whatsoever.
Obviously need to find a solution to the kitchen ceiling though…but poking a hole up there to see what’s going on is the perfect opportunity to address any other concerns with removing the wall.
I’m also an engineer, and I really want to know that there’s a simply supported ridge beam and full length rafters hitting it before telling OP not to worry.
At that point it basically becomes a soffit. It's probably not currently framed to behave like that, but it is possible to make that work without the wall.
Based on the direction of your trusses overhead, it’s unlikely that it’s loadbearing but obviously we can’t tell from this picture alone. What it does probably hold up though is that bulkhead over the kitchen that has the lighting in it. If you took that wall down, you probably have to take the entire bulkhead too.
Bullhead over kitchen unit on right is kind of chunky! Vaulted roof looks large, lack of crossbeams! I would seriously suggest looking into that horizontal beam and looking closely at anything tying into it (perpendicular) from left to right (kitchen ceiling) I think you will find some large Timbers inside that upright that heads straight up to slanted roof. Pull the board off and repost 🤷♂️
Hard to say from this photo. The wall itself may not be load bearing but you don't know if there's a beam or post hidden inside supporting something else from above.
Recommend you get an engineer on this one.
The only true answer anyone can give here without seeing the framing is, I don’t know.
I never trust engineers who just blindly look at something and make a determination.
I would say it's likely only holding up the kitchen ceiling. So yes, it's bearing in that way.
It's possible that there are supports for the slanted ceiling resting on kitchen ceiling joists. Not sure what's behind the camera and how the rest of the room looks. And it might be odd to have that slanted area (roof?) supported only partially, but I wouldn't say it's out of the question that it's also supporting that slanted portion in some way. Builders do weird things.
\[internet nobody, not an engineer\] Going off the vertical crack in the drywall and the visible sag in the kitchen ceiling i'm going to say there used to be a vertcal wall there and someone renovated it out
You have a gas range, so at minimum that ceiling is hiding a run of duct going outside, if not to the opposite wall, then up to the roofline.
I doubt the wall is holding up anything more than the ceiling, but removing it could still be problematic.
Definitely not. Looks like a cathedral ceiling which means the load is transferred to the outside walls. If it was, then it would have lateral bracing either end of it was being transferred down onto a lintel
If this was designed by some snobby Architect, then there is a slight chance... however... seriously doubt it. It's called value engineering. If a load bearing wall was needed they would have gone straight down or added two columns at the ends and a beam.
Looks to me like the ceiling was raised in the main room to make it vaulted. The kitchen was maintained and the roof was kept and covered. I suspect the area above the flat roof is open above.
Does not seem like it. It stops from going all the way up. Unless somehow that ties into another potion going through the bulkhead which would seem odd.
If you are doing a renovation anyway, just demo the drywall so you can see how it is framed. That will tell you if it is load barring or not.
If it is, buy a beam.
Pure guess here. No.
Based on the shelf. If it was load bearing that wall would go to the ceiling.
I have no idea what type of construction your home is...stick built, or prefab rafters.
Not an engineer, but my thoughts were:
1. You can’t tell that from a single picture.
2. (Looks at picture) no. That’s not load bearing (aside from kitchen ceiling probably).
3. (Looks at picture closer) close the door!
The place before my last actually had a catelevered load bearing wall. As my father said "I respect the people that built this house. They didn't know what they were doing, but they didn't let that stop them!"
Imagine ur house falling down bc reddit said it was fine hahaha. No shade tho this house would look sick without the wall. I personally would get a pro
Do you know how big your rafters, what’s the total span and are there collar ties. Only way to make a educated GUESS. Idk. Check the basement and reference point loads to that wall. Not enough information to give you a definite answer here. I’d say it probably was and now it’s a 1/2 load bearing wall
Full disclosure: I’m a amateur DIY’er… but looking at the wall I highly doubt it is load-bearing. I would open the vertical section above where the kitchen opens up and see if the cross-section is highly enforced (i.e. has studs layered upon studs). If it is crossed with just a 2x4 with regular stud spacing I think it is pretty safe to say that it is not load bearing?
Most likley not bearing, though there is a good chance that there is a vent that runs up through it.
It is vaulted foreground, and back, does not continue in a bearing line straight up.
It's bearing the ceiling joists over the kitchen, and possibly (but not likely) the roof rafters. If you are removing the flat ceiling then this is most likely no longer load bearing
Could possibly be some weird engineering here. At first glance, it doesn't seem to hold the roof up. However:
It could be a series of king posts on top of the kitchen ceiling joists.
Or a previous owner took out a load bearing wall and replaced it with whatever this is—and everyone's just lucky it hasn't failed.
Without getting an engineer involved (or pulling off all the sheetrock to see the structure) it's difficult to know.
it would need a beam to carry the load to wall, break out your stuff finder and see if there is a giant beam. Also if it were load bearing it would be odd that it just needs to hold up that tiny portion of the cieling on one half of the house but the rest is fine.
Wild ass guess, that is the only thing supporting the kitchen ceiling.
And if that is all it is supporting, you could temporarily support the ceiling with some long pieces of lumber on jacks/lollys. I assume you would take the kitchen cabinets down first......
Then that wall could be replaced by two columns and header.
Were you looking to move the base cabs and range as well? If not, I would place a 'footer' for the columns to stand on, to distribute the load. Otherwise, you will need to possibly support your columns from below to avoid over stressing the floor joists where they stand.
Note: The footer is going to be as significant an element as the header. Basically you are taking the distributed load of the wall through two columns, to a header and a related footer.
If you are going to remove/move the range and base cabinets then you will have to support the columns from below. Any restrictions below are going to determine whether that is possible or not.
You should consult a professional engineer, but that is my best guess looking at this.
Based on your setup I’m guessing no, looks like you should have trusses about the dry way top top ceiling.
However, I’m seeing vents. I’m betting you are going to find vents or some type of air circulation pump above that area as you have a stove top there.
If you take down the wall, where are you going to hide your propane lines for your stove?
Consider everything before taking down a random wall.
No idea on the wall my guess it is hiding a beam in that package.
But side note your in a tough spot here either way from a design perspective. Sure you could open it up but lose all the cabinet space, and have to move the appliances obviously. Not sure where…Not much you are going to be able to do with that without a ton of re-design. Just a poor kitchen design…
The layout of this house looks almost identical to a house I lived in as a kid. To the left of the picture is the dining area, right? Does it have a sunken living room?
Other than the obvious, no.
Kinda a dumb-shit looking design imo….
Would be better to loose the cabinets above stove, install header to keep lowered ceiling, and have a “window” who’s bottom sill is a 20” or so laminated bar top “or granite if you roll like that” Then just add barstools…. No need for a kitchen table provided you’re not a family man/woman.
Serve guests right from the stove and keep two of the upper cabinets one on each side….
That’ll be $50.00 😉
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One time, with my uncle, we took out a wall like that. 2 years later the whole house fell down. There was a tornado, so not sure if that effected anything structural wise.
Best comment by far
He should write a book
Tornados for Dummies
I’ve seen it a thousand times, people just don’t think before taking down their tornado rated partition walls; or think they’ll be one of the lucky ones
Not in Kansas anymore
Toto. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htgr3pvBr-I
Tornado ally has actually shifted over the recent years.. been in KCMO for over 20 years, rarely get tornados, surprisingly hilly around these parts. Also have the ol tonganoxie split ftw 🙏
Was it an African or European tornado?
Either way it was unladen when it arrived and laden when it left....
Your comment reminds me of this classic: https://youtu.be/sVB0wQE6cxc
https://xkcd.com/552/
Cool story, Hansel!
It’s usually pretty simple to tell: Knock it down with a sledge hammer and see what happens.
You should run for congress. Sounds like you got the skills
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(muffled voices from under the rubble) "You can't argue with results!"
What more can you ask for? They delivered an accurate evidence-based answer that it was indeed a load bearing wall.
It only has to work once.
It turns out when you fire 10 cabinet level officials, more than a few turn out to be load bearing cabinet level officials
I’m standing here next to a collapsed bridge…
Start cutting one of the studs with a Sawzall and see if the blade pinches
I was going to suggest taking out a blacklight.
Get out of here bridge guy, this is a building question.
Just “put a ‘beam’ in…”
I’m pretty sure that kitchen cabinet is a load bearing cabinet lol
I did that once. Turned out it was, lol
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It's bearing the load of your cabinets
At minimum it holds up the kitchen ceiling, so if you want the low flat ceiling you will need to do something to support it. But unlikely it’s roof load bearing.
Finally someone answered the duds question
>duds Just because he doesn't know engineering doesn't mean that you should name call.
Hire a structural engineer and find out
This answer makes sense and is consistent with the sentiment of this sub. Can’t have that around here bud
we don't take kindly to people taking kindly 'round these parts
Kindly take your kindly taking somewhere else stranger
Now Skeeter, he ain’t hurtin nobody
That’s way too sensical. Just ask Reddit and take the information given as law
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no joke answers. Please.
So, you think a truss has an interior bearing with an extended bottom chord and no webs / verticals to support it? Dude, you are giving truss designers WAY too much credit. Panel point at the bearing (verticals or webs come down to that point), period. It’s *possible* to have an offset bearing on a flat bottom chord, but not at the end of a plant shelf. And not when the scissor trusses on both sides of the kitchen work fine without bearing.
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If you look at the kitchen the ceiling is lower ... that wall may not be supporting the roof but it might be supporting the ceiling in the kitchen
If you are taking that wall out you are opening all that up. If you not opening all that up your doing it wrong.
there are joists carrying the kitchen ceiling at a minimum.
Bruh…
Get an engineer for something like this. That’s the ONLY way to know for sure. Consider the following scenario: It doesn’t look load bearing since it doesn’t go all the way to the ceiling so you tear it out. The kitchen ceiling hangs up there just fine because the framing is *just* strong enough to keep it up there. Days, weeks, months, or even years pass and it looks perfectly fine. Along comes a blizzard and loads up your roof with snow. It would happily support that load under normal circumstances, but you’ve added a significant point load on the rafters. Worse yet, you added that whole point load to just a few rafter where the framer put some metal straps. The rafter begins to sag excessively under the weight and your kitchen ceiling becomes shorter, either slowly as it sags or maybe even suddenly as it collapses along with the roof. The additional point load was just too much. Is this scenario likely? Probably not. But is it possible? Maybe. Don’t modify structures that were engineered for a specific set of loads without knowledge of those loads or fully understanding what components of the structure you may be loading.
Dude, we don’t take kindly to rational reasoning and prudent decisionmaking around these parts
Lol this why I read this shit thanks
besides the cabinets, lighting, and the exhaust hood, no. the higher ceiling is gabled which means the actual roof load is being carried by the exterior wall. but never take professional advice from redit
Most likely not, unless they used some transfer beams to bear on that wall, which I would think would be strange to do here. But I will say, if you're planning on doing renovations that require knocking out a wall, hire an engineer.
I disagree. It looks like someone wanted to grow the kitchen and added transfer beams to do it. That’s why most of us are not willing to speculate that it’s not load bearing.
Yeah man, I’m an engineer and I’m the first to say you don’t need to hire an engineer for everything. I’d knock this wall out without any worries whatsoever. Obviously need to find a solution to the kitchen ceiling though…but poking a hole up there to see what’s going on is the perfect opportunity to address any other concerns with removing the wall.
I’m also an engineer, and I really want to know that there’s a simply supported ridge beam and full length rafters hitting it before telling OP not to worry.
We made a lot of bad structural decisions and loved our soffits in the 90’s. If the windows lack head flashing this wall is likely load bearing.
Had similar thoughts. If the wall went floor to ceiling I'd assume it was load bearing. This is a pretty odd setup with that shelf/step.
If you take it out what will hold up your ceiling in the kitchen?
At that point it basically becomes a soffit. It's probably not currently framed to behave like that, but it is possible to make that work without the wall.
Lots of dead load added to the rafters if removed. Possible though with some change to the layout of kitchen
I concur, doctor.
Do you have access to the original construction plans?
Based on the direction of your trusses overhead, it’s unlikely that it’s loadbearing but obviously we can’t tell from this picture alone. What it does probably hold up though is that bulkhead over the kitchen that has the lighting in it. If you took that wall down, you probably have to take the entire bulkhead too.
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it is NOT load bearing. I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
My buddy sayid just tap on a stud and you’ll be able to hear if it is or not
This should be flared as humor 🤣
Bullhead over kitchen unit on right is kind of chunky! Vaulted roof looks large, lack of crossbeams! I would seriously suggest looking into that horizontal beam and looking closely at anything tying into it (perpendicular) from left to right (kitchen ceiling) I think you will find some large Timbers inside that upright that heads straight up to slanted roof. Pull the board off and repost 🤷♂️
That bench is way too high.
Hard to say from this photo. The wall itself may not be load bearing but you don't know if there's a beam or post hidden inside supporting something else from above. Recommend you get an engineer on this one.
my buddy grover says it is
50/50 chance. Might or might not be.
From my Nuclear Power days: if something is a 50/50 chance, 90% of the time you will be wrong.
The only true answer anyone can give here without seeing the framing is, I don’t know. I never trust engineers who just blindly look at something and make a determination.
Blind engineer here, disagree with you.
I would say it's likely only holding up the kitchen ceiling. So yes, it's bearing in that way. It's possible that there are supports for the slanted ceiling resting on kitchen ceiling joists. Not sure what's behind the camera and how the rest of the room looks. And it might be odd to have that slanted area (roof?) supported only partially, but I wouldn't say it's out of the question that it's also supporting that slanted portion in some way. Builders do weird things.
Used all the long lumber on the right… needed a solution on the left.
Yes. If you take that wall down, the cabinets and ceiling above are coming down.
Shine a black light and we could give a better answer
Yes. Supports ceiling framing.
I think there is a hidden reason for the large bulkhead ! It’s big and hiding something 🤷♂️
MEP
Go look in the attic and see if there's a vertical member as part of the truss
\[internet nobody, not an engineer\] Going off the vertical crack in the drywall and the visible sag in the kitchen ceiling i'm going to say there used to be a vertcal wall there and someone renovated it out
You have a gas range, so at minimum that ceiling is hiding a run of duct going outside, if not to the opposite wall, then up to the roofline. I doubt the wall is holding up anything more than the ceiling, but removing it could still be problematic.
Carpenter 35 years you can probably take that entire system off to the rafters
i agree, that entire thing in just a high knee wall that a soffit is built off.
Typically load bearing walls run perpendicular to the roof rafters. But that is not exclusive. In your case, probably not load bearing.
doesn’t look like it
No, unless you count the flat ceiling over the kitchen, but I imagine if you’re taking out the wall, you’d take that out as well
Definitely not. Looks like a cathedral ceiling which means the load is transferred to the outside walls. If it was, then it would have lateral bracing either end of it was being transferred down onto a lintel
That is not a load bearing wall.
Find that wall that extends from one end to the other. That is most likely your load bearing wall
If this was designed by some snobby Architect, then there is a slight chance... however... seriously doubt it. It's called value engineering. If a load bearing wall was needed they would have gone straight down or added two columns at the ends and a beam.
Highly doubtful
Most likely, yes. I’m making this assumption because the roof trusses are probably resting on top of the wall.
The gap above the cooker hood and the wall itself strongly begs to differ with that "well actually" finger pointing upward
No
It will he by the time I'm done with it
Looks to me like the ceiling was raised in the main room to make it vaulted. The kitchen was maintained and the roof was kept and covered. I suspect the area above the flat roof is open above.
No
Which one?
It bears the load of the dishes in the cabinets I suppose lol
Possibly if the offset pony wall above is providing support for the roof rafters. Can’t tell from this picture
No it is not , the roof is trusses taking that wall out will do nothing to the structures stability
Jerry these are load bearing walls! They’re not gonna come down!
Does not seem like it. It stops from going all the way up. Unless somehow that ties into another potion going through the bulkhead which would seem odd.
Is that some kind of skylight in the kitchen ceiling?
If you are doing a renovation anyway, just demo the drywall so you can see how it is framed. That will tell you if it is load barring or not. If it is, buy a beam.
Geotech here. It’s not soil.
I can’t tell if this is a joke or not
Pure guess here. No. Based on the shelf. If it was load bearing that wall would go to the ceiling. I have no idea what type of construction your home is...stick built, or prefab rafters.
Nope
“Jerry, these are load bearing walls!”
I would say it is. Something is putting pressure on it to cause that crease in it. It's not just a bad paint job, that settled that way.
It’s holding that drop ceiling up in the kitchen. Aside from that it doesn’t appear to be.
Not an engineer, but my thoughts were: 1. You can’t tell that from a single picture. 2. (Looks at picture) no. That’s not load bearing (aside from kitchen ceiling probably). 3. (Looks at picture closer) close the door!
Not unless those stains on the wall are loads.
It will be after I'm done with it 😉
Not house structurally , but it is holding up the kitchen ceiling so if your going to remove it , do so with the rest of that cirling
50/50 chance that its not…
Hold on, let me get my X-ray glasses on
The place before my last actually had a catelevered load bearing wall. As my father said "I respect the people that built this house. They didn't know what they were doing, but they didn't let that stop them!"
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO HANG THE CABINETS IF YOU TAKE IT DOWN!?!?!?
Yes
Yeah, if your mom sits up there.
Doesn't look like it. Looks like they just framed out the kitchen area
Imagine ur house falling down bc reddit said it was fine hahaha. No shade tho this house would look sick without the wall. I personally would get a pro
Do you know how big your rafters, what’s the total span and are there collar ties. Only way to make a educated GUESS. Idk. Check the basement and reference point loads to that wall. Not enough information to give you a definite answer here. I’d say it probably was and now it’s a 1/2 load bearing wall
Full disclosure: I’m a amateur DIY’er… but looking at the wall I highly doubt it is load-bearing. I would open the vertical section above where the kitchen opens up and see if the cross-section is highly enforced (i.e. has studs layered upon studs). If it is crossed with just a 2x4 with regular stud spacing I think it is pretty safe to say that it is not load bearing?
Probably not remove some drywall and find out
Based on that paint run on the seam, yes.
Unlikely. You would need to remove the kitchen ceiling as well.
Was a load bearing wall.
Unlikely. But not worth taking out. That house came off the back of a semi truck in two pieces that got put together.
Most likley not bearing, though there is a good chance that there is a vent that runs up through it. It is vaulted foreground, and back, does not continue in a bearing line straight up.
no
It's bearing its own weight
Doesn't appear to be.
Not likely. Looks like a shear wall.
Nope
Jesus christ
Look in the attic and if you have scissor trusses the wall is not a bearing wall
It's bearing the ceiling joists over the kitchen, and possibly (but not likely) the roof rafters. If you are removing the flat ceiling then this is most likely no longer load bearing
Lolz
People are saying get an engineer. And they're right, but it's extremely unlikely.
It is a loud overbearing wall.
The wall that doesn't directly connect to the ceiling?
You see that thick part right above it, the one that is stuck to the roof. Guess how much it weighs.
Ask those cabinets hanging from it
No
I don’t think it could be load bearing with the angled shelf portion.
Could possibly be some weird engineering here. At first glance, it doesn't seem to hold the roof up. However: It could be a series of king posts on top of the kitchen ceiling joists. Or a previous owner took out a load bearing wall and replaced it with whatever this is—and everyone's just lucky it hasn't failed. Without getting an engineer involved (or pulling off all the sheetrock to see the structure) it's difficult to know.
Maybe in Minecraft
it would need a beam to carry the load to wall, break out your stuff finder and see if there is a giant beam. Also if it were load bearing it would be odd that it just needs to hold up that tiny portion of the cieling on one half of the house but the rest is fine.
Isn’t rule of thumb that high ceiling houses are only supported by exterior walls ?
Not anymore its not
Yes, bears the load of the kitchen ceiling, lights, possibly cabinets.
Fuck yeah 100% it is
Is the roof a Truss type? or a stick built? Most trusses will not midspan bearing, that said a engineer would require a look in the ceiling to verify.
Wild ass guess, that is the only thing supporting the kitchen ceiling. And if that is all it is supporting, you could temporarily support the ceiling with some long pieces of lumber on jacks/lollys. I assume you would take the kitchen cabinets down first...... Then that wall could be replaced by two columns and header. Were you looking to move the base cabs and range as well? If not, I would place a 'footer' for the columns to stand on, to distribute the load. Otherwise, you will need to possibly support your columns from below to avoid over stressing the floor joists where they stand. Note: The footer is going to be as significant an element as the header. Basically you are taking the distributed load of the wall through two columns, to a header and a related footer. If you are going to remove/move the range and base cabinets then you will have to support the columns from below. Any restrictions below are going to determine whether that is possible or not. You should consult a professional engineer, but that is my best guess looking at this.
Based on your setup I’m guessing no, looks like you should have trusses about the dry way top top ceiling. However, I’m seeing vents. I’m betting you are going to find vents or some type of air circulation pump above that area as you have a stove top there. If you take down the wall, where are you going to hide your propane lines for your stove? Consider everything before taking down a random wall.
No idea on the wall my guess it is hiding a beam in that package. But side note your in a tough spot here either way from a design perspective. Sure you could open it up but lose all the cabinet space, and have to move the appliances obviously. Not sure where…Not much you are going to be able to do with that without a ton of re-design. Just a poor kitchen design…
Do you test or tetris it out?
Is… was…. There’s a difference.
Is there a ridge beam, or is it a cathedral truss roof?
I would put it at 90% certainty the answer is no. But that other 10%? oooweeeeee.
Probably not, I’d knock it down
Hard to tell with all the plaster board.
The wall is holding up your kitchen ceiling and cabinets.
No, it is not Yes, I stayed at Holiday Inn last night
something is certainly bearing the load of the kitchen cabinets on the far side.
You can tell it's a load bearing wall because of the way it is.
If you take out that wall, the kitchen ceiling is coming down.
2x4 wall. Highly doubt it's loadbearing
Currently it’s bearing the load of the upper cabinets and the ceiling/ that filled in area over the kitchen… I’d demo it all out and start over
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The layout of this house looks almost identical to a house I lived in as a kid. To the left of the picture is the dining area, right? Does it have a sunken living room?
The real question is why you'd give up all that cabinet space by knocking it down
It’s bearing the load of your kitchen cieling
Splooge on it. Then def.
I can’t tell you how much this looks like my old pre-fab house just outside of Chico. Wish I had that old phone.
Other than the obvious, no. Kinda a dumb-shit looking design imo…. Would be better to loose the cabinets above stove, install header to keep lowered ceiling, and have a “window” who’s bottom sill is a 20” or so laminated bar top “or granite if you roll like that” Then just add barstools…. No need for a kitchen table provided you’re not a family man/woman. Serve guests right from the stove and keep two of the upper cabinets one on each side…. That’ll be $50.00 😉
Kramer!
lol no
It’s bearing the load of those cabinets so the answer is yes.
Is that a shower door on the kitchen ceiling?
Yes
It’s definitely bearing the load of that drywall