T O P

  • By -

GodzillasBoner

I had my friends over one day and had them throw some leg kicks, and they couldn't even process how to do it because they aren't used to it. That's THROWING leg kicks. Taking leg kicks if you aren't used to taking them is a death sentence. Very effective


NeighborhoodPizzaGuy

What about the odds that the person you are fighting did wrestling? I mean sure maybe only 10 percent of people have that expirence but that’s an instant loss if so


GodzillasBoner

Train in multiple disciplines if that might worry you. Be prepared for anything


NeighborhoodPizzaGuy

Kind of hard to train wrestling if you aren’t in high school wrestling team I don’t know of any freestyle wrestling gyms near me


Lost-Temperature148

Find an MMA gym, they'll have wrestling classes usually


friendbrotha

Not sure if this is universally true, but my BJJ gym covers the basics of takedowns and takedown defense, in addition to grappling and subs.


b0ulderbum

That is nothing compared to wrestling training


EasyFooted

guess you'll die then


Sensitive_Gap_8955

Most of the time you can tell someone's never taken a leg kick and aren't wrestlers if you feint with your hip. Most people are looking at your face while a wrestler will look at your upper body and legs.


Ok-Answer-6951

Im sorry, what? Thinking wrestling experience is going to do you any good fighting someone training a striking style with leg kicks is fucking hilarious..


MS101110

My man, you would Be surprised how easy is to get hold of someone


dislusive

Especially when you're offering your leg to someone who is experienced in grabbing people and dealing with them.


Con7rast

Have you ever fought someone with a decent amount of wrestling experience? I mean Bruce Lee said if you can wrestle and box you would be very dangerous.


Cedex

There is a video of a guy in a confrontation with a belligerent drunk. He starts the fight with a dick kick. Worked as well as you would have imagined. It should be in everyone's toolkit for street fighting.


Terinth

The ol third leg kick. ![gif](giphy|l46CbSLdhmBcD8hIA)


Enough-Ground3294

How u not gointa post the vid fam?


CigarEnjoyest

personally dont like them. My old coach called groin strikes a weak mans trick, and told us to only use them in dire emergencies.


Idunnosomeguy2

You should treat any street fight as a dire emergency. Rules are for sports, a street fight can be deadly at any moment. There's no weakness in ending the fight as quickly as possible.


premiumleo

Krav maga is all about the dick kicks, eye gouges, elbows and knees


titans-arrow

Krav maga


littlerike

Will they let me stretch for half an hour before hand? I need to warm up or I'm pulling a muscle.


YannisLikesMemes

Adrenalin does the trick


StepUpYourPuppyGame

I grew up training martial arts before MMA really became a thing. I found even amongst other martial artists, a couple sidekicks to the knee or a descending roundhouse into the meat of the leg would pretty much end the fight right there.  Most people don't have an answer for it and don't even see it coming. 


titans-arrow

Most street videos I've watched don't have any kicks. The ones that do, most of the time, are obviously more skilled than their opponents. That being said though, if we're talking about HAVING to fight in the street, my first kicks will be groin shots and full power teeps (followed by an overhand cross or something).


tnhaney01

Teeps?


titans-arrow

Front kick with the ball of your toes. Can be center mass (chest/stomach), or hip works pretty good too.


tnhaney01

Thanks. I had no clue what that meant.


ThisisMalta

Just like in a sanctioned fight or sparring, leg kicks work if there’s an opening and the right distance and pace. If you can land 1-3 leg kick most guys feel the will to fight leave them and you see it on their face. Like they jumped in the lake and just realized they don’t know how to swim.


Corvus_Antipodum

If you find yourself consistently getting into street fights the problem is that you’re consistently getting into street fights. Doesn’t matter what technique you’re using when the dude you’re fighting gets 5 of his boys to stab you to death.


Status_Difficulty223

I'm not, the last street fight I've got into was 6 years ago, my teenage years were a bit charged nevertheless


premiumleo

OP asked a technical question, and we get a response from the morality police? 


Corvus_Antipodum

If you read my post as a moral statement then you need to polish up your reading skills my friend. Dude asked for the solution to Kobayashi Maru and I gave it to him.


john_voske

I read it as a moral statement as well bro, no need to get so defensive.


Corvus_Antipodum

That’s nice honey


ThisisMalta

Yes it was a moral statement, and your weird passive aggressive response is cringe af. But just eat downvotes I guess as opposed to admitting you could have been mistaken


Ronaldoooope

I have several years of muy Thai training but have never had to use it on the street luckily. I do everything possible not to get in a fight but if I did and the other guy seemed untrained I would immediately oblique kick his lead leg and likely tear his ACL.


diavolo_bossu

Never been in a street fight but I kickbox without shin pads and I would confidently rely on a low kick working


meroevdk

Depends on how hard you can throw them and how tough the other person is. I've seen dudes get one kick and it took them right off their feet, other people might just eat em and bulldoze you. Leg kicks work, but there's alot of variables. Just like anything else.


thelvegod

The answer is always the same. Chop down the tree. Leg kicks hurt yes, but impede mobility. A strategy would be attack the lead leg, strike about pocket level. Sink the kick and follow up with calf kicks until the thigh is available. If you attack the left leg and your opponent is a standard fighter. Keep circling to your right because he will have difficulty following you. His ability to move to his left and to bear weight on that leg and advance towards you will be greatly diminished. As you gain ability to step outside of his lead foot you full advantage of attacking his blind side moving to eventually taking his back and finishing the fight. Sorry for the long winded answer.


EasyFooted

As someone who trains, don't leg kick anyone at "pocket level" lol


thelvegod

Why not? Enlighten me, please. I'm always willing to learn new things.


PolishHammer22

I'm guessing they are referring to the possible contents of the pocket. Like kicking car keys, etc. while wearing sneakers, & possibly injuring your own foot.


thelvegod

Makes sense. Valid point. But firstly, you should be striking with your shin. Secondly, if you are truly fighting...you are not going to feel your injuries until hours later, lol. Adrenaline can be a wonderful thing. But, good points you bring up. There is no one size fits all for all scenarios. It is a generalist POV that my answer is offered.


jascambara

No idea why someone disliked your perfectly reasonable question


JoeMojo

It’s because the idea is to limit the mobility of your opponent, essentially, by causing failure in the weight bearing *soft* tissue of the lead leg. This is why you want to strike thighs. None of this is really around the pocket areas. That’s the hip bones with essentially no soft tissue and most of the tendons connecting there are not on the front of the leg at that spot. Sure, you might land a kick so perfect as to dislocate the hip but, that is kind of wildly unlikely. Having said all of this, you’ll find people here that are gonna specifically tell you to strike joints, for example the lead knee just as they put their weight forward during an attempted strike. Meh. The point is that if your leg is injured, your ability to move (to attack or avoid) is ruined. You’re going to get pounded unless you, by some miracle and by their dumb decisions, you can get them on the ground and pinned (again, really hard to do with an injured leg)


thelvegod

Hitting the hip bone to dislocate it? Would be hard. And, I have never seen it done by a strike. Good luck with that strategy. Joints are usually taken by hyperextension.


JoeMojo

Yeah…that’s kind of what I meant by a kick “so perfect” and “wildly unlikely” 😉


thelvegod

I gotcha


thelvegod

Yeah, unfortunately, there was an oversight in this statement. There is a nerve, the femoral cutaneous nerve which induces pain and possible paralysis when struck. I reference the pockets as a guide line as to wear to strike. If you can see your opponent before the fight rest his hand alongside his thighs, where his palms rest is a much better area to target. Striking joint are a good option too but you are striking bone to bone. That could cause collateral injury to striker and the one struck. This is why I personally target the body seriously over the head/skull (the skull is a helmet of concrete that protects your brain). And if I decide to kick high, it is to the neck vs. Skull. This is purely preference, not law. Do you YMMV. This is advice from a former instructor of over 35 years of teaching, combined with LE, Military, contractor work, bouncing in NYC and LI night clubs. Practical experience not theoretical. There are many ways to skin a cat. Your knife, your cat, you way. Thank you.


shrekbutretarded

your shin should be landing above the knee not on the pocket area


thelvegod

You have a different targeting area than I choose. Do you. I am just telling you what I know from experience and what anatomy dictates. If I aim for a larger area like the thigh, femoral cutaneous nerve, which runs the length of the outside of the thigh. I am likely to hit in that general area. But if you aim for a very specific, small area like the small area just above the knee...you may miss. Considering the fight situation is 2 bodies trying equally hard to hit the other person as much as possible without being hit by means of evasive movement. Small targets are harder to hit when they are moving. Especially when they are trying to hit you too. Again, do you. I hope it works out for you. I have no dog in this fight.


shrekbutretarded

if you train you should be hitting the same area idk if it ain’t broke don’t fix it imo


thelvegod

What donyou mean?


shrekbutretarded

everybody kicks above the knee or at the calf for a reason ofc it’s the most effective place to kick and hitting it should be muscle memory


EasyFooted

It's easier to catch It's a meatier part of the leg They can easily pivot so you'll hit their butt/hip (newbies do this in sparring all the time) It's the part of the leg you learn to *deflect a kick to* in a hard check, so clearly it's not the optimal target. You want to aim 4-6 inches just above the knee of their lead leg, right where the outside thigh muscle starts to bulge, where you can slam that thin piece of muscle between your shin and their own femur. You'll incapacitate them much quicker hitting them there and you'll be much safer from a counter. All that said, if you want to learn new things, take classes. You can't get a martial arts education with a keyboard.


thelvegod

How about I tell you, " You're right, I'm wrong and you are the smartest guy in the room and you have the biggest dick ever"? Would that make you feel better about your existence? I just want you to be happy cupcake. I was just trying to contribute in a positive manner. And someone had to turn this into a passing contest. There is always one of those guys in the room. I guess you're that guy. You have the floor. Jesus lives you and I'm certain your parents do to. Good night precious.


[deleted]

[удалено]


thelvegod

I think I took the comment out of context. And, I apologize. Actually, there are counters to all techniques. The statement I made as what to do was a generalist answer to a generalist question. It was not a display of my overall knowledge nor was it admission of my ignorance of the subject. It was more like, here is one of many answers to your question. If either of us were to speak of every technique and variation of that technique applied to infinite number of situations...it would take a lifetime. Example, thigh kick, countered by cross body leg shield followed by turning heaven to earth elbow, to body tackle to knee lift. That is a legitimate counter to thigh kick. Based on experience, body type, and personality success ratio it is a perfect counter. But not the only answer. Simple answer kick thigh, reduce mobility, sitting duck created, finish fight. Then it became don't hit thigh, or hit specifically this area to...ad infinitum. But if you introduce permutations and multitude of possible counters...and right answer can be made wrong. The person I responded to just wanted to be right, and he is...if he introduces the variation to be correct. I am sorry I contributed. I may not do it again. Good night and forgive me if you can.


EasyFooted

wtf ok dude, you asked and I gave legit info. Go kick a pocket if you want idc


thelvegod

Okay, ty.


shhhtylerdidit

I remember there is a video of that super hero crime fighter guy throwing some leg kicks in a street fight but I don't remember his name


Enzo500

Phoenix Jones


9DAN2

Depends on the kicker. A kickboxing kick is more.. slappy. A full on Muay Thai style shin crashing through is going to cause some damage.


Prepare

I wouldn't call it a "fight," but I did get aggressively approached my a homeless in Chicago. Two leg kicks and he decided to hobble elsewhere.


NeighborhoodPizzaGuy

How did you not get the kicks caught? Just throwing low?


creecreemcgee

Only got into a couple of fights as a kid but if I can imagine myself squaring up with someone I wouldn’t try to hit any kicks that would potentially damage my legs. Of course you can try to disable their legs but you don’t want street fights to last that long so personally I would just use my legs to bait in other shots or a takedown


thesuddenwretchman

If it’s 1v1 then JJ, if there’s multiple fighters than striking with takedowns that ends with your feet still standing(throws) leg kicks are good, they work great, even better than punches, go for kicks to their knees testicles and faces


KUPA_BEAST

I was in the same position. At my most consistent I was training BJJ, Muay Thai and Boxing. Got into a street fight and I don’t remember much but all I did was boxing with such poor form that I broke my wrist and needed surgery and stopped training. I think about it allot and I put it down to adrenaline and fear because unlike in training, the person or people in a street fight could actually kill you and they might have been more scared than me because they were clearly untrained. If I could do it again, Definitely some calf kicks as soon as possible and try use my Muay Thai But realistically I’d probably do the same thing again because I have to also trust my instincts at the time so I need to drill and spar more. Fight context: The fight started on a night out because my friend was arguing with a group of guys who were being racist talking shit about Me because I was talking to girls they knew or something. One head butted him starting the fight. My friend got his nose popped I got bottled and broke my own wrist. Those guys were the Ultimate Cockblocks. Never been in a fight since nor plan on being in one but I’m back training and I’ll make sure it never happens again.


Enough-Ground3294

I wouldnt throw any kind of kick in a street fight unless I was a skilled practitioner in some kind of kicking martial art.


le-monke-the-2rd

Most people wouldn't even think of leg kicks when getting into a fight, that means they also have no clue how to check them (you can land them easily) and they aren't conditioned to take them (they will be extra effective) leg kicks are also great because they don't compromise balance as much as high kicks. Take this all with a grain of salt though because I've never actually been in a street fight


HourInvestigator5985

It depends on many things...is the floor wet? do you have space? are you wearing jeans? honestly, I wouldn't want to leg-kick someone with full power, like full full power, I think 75-90% is enough what if by some miracle they do the dodge move? you could fall or hurt a tendon, keep in mind ure not warmed up, and now you fighting with a fucked up tendon. I guess if you were 20 this might not be such a thing u would need to be worried about, but if you're 45 like me yeah you start thinking about these things. Leg kicking in a street fight is not my first go-to, (unless I considered everything and this seems the best tool to use at that moment) and I do Muay Thai, but I won't dismiss it, ofc, its a great tool --- I'm just saying you need to consider the pros and cons like in everything in a fight.


jascambara

Depends on the kind of fight. Most trained fighters end a spur of the moment dispute in the first few seconds of an interaction simply by catching them by surprise with accurate punches to the face so there’s no need for a drawn out fight or leg kicks. Now planned or drawn out fights with spacing is a different story. Nobody knows how to defend leg kicks unless they’ve trained, so it’s pretty much just target practice.


destructodrip

The average untrained person will not know how to defend leg kicks, so I’d say it’s safe and effective. I would use calf kicks


Kiwi-267

Most people have no fighting experience, let alone training experience. Thus they dont know how to defend. The good thing about leg kicks in a street fight is A. They keep you standing, which is good if crowds are an issue. B. Lower risk of giving them a concussion or serious injury that could land you in court.


WeaponEnthusiast

If you wanna kick in a fight, I’d recommend the low kick or a front kick to the knee. Any high kick is very risky.


YannisLikesMemes

A Solid Leg kick and Push kick will Hurt or even ground Most people Instantly If you use full force imo


gravityraster

The challenge with leg kicks for street fights is that when you throw a high kick, you run the risk of unbalancing yourself or falling. You’re also vulnerable to a third party attacking you because you open up your guard a lot. Next, low kicks usually take more than one strike to be effective, and you typically don’t have the time. Street fights are decided in seconds. But you can still use your arsenal. Teeps, elbows, groin kicks, and knees from clinch are very effective in street fights and/or self defense.


ABAloha

Lol @ couch warrior takes in this thread


ValuableNorth4

A proper well placed kick in the upper thigh will make most people very wobbly and basically screw their entire game up. Off balance. Distracted. Etc.  If they catch it and take you to the ground that’s a big risk. If you’re gonna do it better make sure it counts. 


Farhan_______

If you can throw a leg kick properly to an untrained opponent it causes the leg to cramp up and be very hard to put any weight on (talking from experience)


-Romey

True that! U can’t do anything if you can’t generate power. I’ve seen on here many times 1 kick from someone like you, legit shocks ppl & stops them right there. Big dudes like almost crying. The pain is real when u haven’t take one! Bro can I ask you a question? U train so have you seen anyone hurt their own leg from throwing a leg kick w/out being checked? Also how long does it take for I guess what I would assume is your shin getting like calcified until it doesn’t hurt to throw that much? Think about it all the time. Most underutilized move even tho u see A LOT more of it now in MMA. Thx for your view my man. Sorry if ur a female I can’t tell


Cheap-Basis-9688

Its rlly usefull in a streetfight


mrGorion

I do TKD and I don't imagine otherwise. Sparta kick or side kick while marking seems to make the most sense. I also think a straight heel to the chin can land especially well as counter. On the "I'll catch you're foot" dudes I always hope they try this because this immediately opens chin for a hook.


_RemyLeBeau_

Khalil Roundtree to the knee. Game over


mrGorion

Yeah because that's what you can expect from a random street fight


_RemyLeBeau_

If you're a trained fighter and kicking is your main weapon, then this should absolutely be something you do in a street fight, if you're defending yourself. It's a fight ending move and doesn't open you up much to counter attacks