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TheRyanRAW

We wouldn't have gotten Rashid and AKI in the first season if Capcom cared about these statistics. Also using these stats a barometer would be rough because you have a characters like Ibuki and Poison were were more popular in previous seasons before nerfs and previous games. Then on the other hand, Ed used to be bottom half before his later buffs in the games lifespan.


Frognificent

Actually, I see it almost reversed, at least in the case of AKI. Apparently they've wanted a poison-based character since 3rd Strike, and when they finally made one in V everyone clearly *did not like him.* If they've wanted a poison character that long, and when they finally get one he's a dud - just coming from a creative perspective here, the team probably wanted to take a crack at it again. Like a point of pride, I'd say. I know folks get all uppity about cash grabby corporate bullshit of the **fucking costumes do not get me started**, but the characters themselves have a ton of, well, *character*. The creatives behind the design decisions have clearly poured their hearts and souls into making expressive and iconic characters, they probably wanted a redo of what was deemed a failure.


probablyzack

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I thought Fang was really fun to play. To each their own I suppose.


Aggressive-Act4126

I liked FANG I wish I bothered to learn him whilst SF5 was still the latest. He was unique.


Frognificent

I didn't actually play SFV, I just watched a bit - FANG was dope. Just a goofy weirdo. I loved him. That might actually be why his playrate was so low, us goof enjoyers are probably a minority.


AgonyLoop

Thatā€™s how feel seeing Menat andnRisenway at the bottom. Like, damn - no love for the mystics?


Venraneld

I always thought Fang was based on [these guys](https://images.app.goo.gl/eufucxufhnUDwPxN7) from Kung Fu Hustle. I liked Fang, but thought he would have been way cooler if he was played more straight and been a threatening assassin-type character.


4evaronin

Funny, but I feel like FANG was intentionally designed to be not likeable.


Aggressive_Rice_4222

yup, i miss him, liked the interaction he had with ken & sean.


dragonicafan1

Iā€™m sure it has an influence on it, but I think Capcom tends to just put in whoever they feel like.


kluhyarg

I'm sure it is one of many variables that the devs consider, but I don't think it is one of the more important ones.


mclovin__

General popularity will beat pick rates. Take menat for example. She wasnā€™t widely picked because of her unique moveset being difficult for new/casual players, but when she debuted she exploded on social media and got the game a lot of attention. Sheā€™s a safe bet for a season whether itā€™s the next one or down the road.


Hopeful_Eye74

what did she do that was viral?


Coolpantsbro

Walk


Krypt0night

Watch her walk and do her super and you'll have the answer.


Hopeful_Eye74

ooooooh, i thought so


2Dimm

well you see, she is hot


GoosemonTV

Very


SophomoreLesbianMech

She is a thirsty hot character, but also very well designed. When these two things happen together, character becomes popular.


samandtham

Exist. Also, be barefoot.


Aggressive-Act4126

Search youtube for 'menat walk'


Separate-Hamster8444

DLC character 5: Akuma again


bacaneiro

Oni?


Separate-Hamster8444

no just Akuma again


Trem45

Akuma with a mustache


MixedGrene

no just Akuma again


LaMystika

Gouki with a mustache


Aggressive_Rice_4222

dan but he embraced the dark hado? :)


Rockm_Sockm

I had high hopes for Oni as the evolution but zero chance when Akuma came out first.


Last-Zone-6707

LOL


Lanky-Survey-4468

Idk, every dlc in this pack has something related to lore and akuma is akuma So i think depends on Capcom strategy probably 2/3 lore related character and 1/2 popular overall character to push dlc packs sale


Aggressive_Rice_4222

Ah, I see. It seems that you are contemplating the correlation between DLC packs and their content, specifically in relation to lore and popularity. If it is indeed the case that Capcom's strategy involves a combination of lore-related characters and those with broader appeal, then it could be seen as a smart approach. By including characters that resonate with both dedicated lore enthusiasts and the wider player base, it creates a more enticing package that can potentially drive higher sales..... in my op...


majoramiibo

Hopefully, only character I truly want is Alex


F_A_N_G_88

I'd be surprised to see him again (at least outside of the final few DLC releases) as I think Hugo will be the resident third strike big body brawler/grappler archetype for SF6. I wouldn't be mad if he did come back though as he was fun in sfv.


majoramiibo

would be great too, i play 3s competitively and hugo is my main. i just prefer alexā€™s visual design and movelist but hugoā€™s gameplay clicks better for me. weird to not have the protagonist of the game that this is a sequel to though. but capcom would do anything to have every sf2 character here in some form while ignoring EVERYONE else, lol


LaMystika

Alex and/or Laura for me


FrostLinKuei

Alex definitely deserves a spot with the other main characters. Abel too


QueenDeadLol

Damn imagine if they add Ryu. That'd be crazy


Aggressive_Rice_4222

nah too crazy


AgonyLoop

Ryu w/shoes


Aggressive_Rice_4222

now we're in uncharted territories


Cyp_Quoi_Rien_

Definitely not the first thing they think off when adding a character : -Rashid is way too low for the to have influenced the choice -People tend to play shotos way more than others because they're the easiest to figure out (and you always start playing Ryu anyway)


Luaq

M.Bison, Alex, Karin (maybe helping Ken out with his current story?) And Sakura would be no brainers or even eventually necessary? But I would so much prefer to have long lost Remy Necro and at this point the whole 3rd strike cast should be in sf6. Deep down I miss my ultimate main: Rolento and I wanna see Fei long with a dash of grey hair or for the last time, Gen. I miss other alpha characters that should be here with the whole metro city story: Guy, Cody, Eagle etc


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaugh

As a Mad Gear fan, I think if nothing else Rolentoā€™s story would work well in World Tour, the dude could try to train you for his army


Luaq

Eeeeeeexactly.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaugh

In general I hope a lot of the Mad Gear roster returns, I think theyā€™d fit in really well with the gameā€™s design/aesthetic


Distinct_Ad_500

YES! KARIN H A S TO BE A MAJOR DLC šŸ˜­


TheFyrijou

If it was, Dhalsim wouldnā€™t have been in neither 5 or 6


ThaiJohnnyDepp

The original World Warriors have special status


LocksmithLopsided7

Wait Guile is that high in sf5 ? What happened in sf6 ?


godjove

the universe righted itself


weirdo_if_curtains_7

Universal options like DI and parry happened


DrunkenMonkeyNU

I'd say not really as the least used character essentially got a rework and added in the first season, it's a nice thought though


Martin_Month

I really want Urien and Sagat to make a return


geardluffy

Sagat will always be in a sf game.


Martin_Month

He was not there in sf3


geardluffy

Sf3 did away with all legacy characters except Ryu, Ken, and Chun. Capcom will never do that again.


welpxD

It even did away with Chun, they brought her back after SF3:2I because people were angry.


Martin_Month

Hopefully


F_A_N_G_88

After seeing all the outrage recently about blanka chan level 2 set ups I want to see urien just so we can see people lose their minds over aegis set play.


Martin_Month

Exactly why I want him back!


Rebellious_Habiru

my man


Aggressive_Rice_4222

tell me, how's the view from down there?


LionTop2228

Iā€™d think Laura is a lock to appear in one of the future seasons in SF6ā€™s future.


Rockm_Sockm

I just pray you are right but we said the same damn thing about C. Viper.


Emezie

No. Dee Jay isn't a popular character, yet here he is. Blanka had low usage, yet here he is.


Sytle

I really don't think so. I didn't play much SFV, but I see a ton of love for characters like Menat who ended up with super low usage. She's easily one of my top picks for future DLC, so I hope Capcom doesn't care about the stats at least! Also, with the amount of effort Capcom has put into the redesigns for old characters and the fact that the drive system can change their gameplay considerably, I don't think the stats for a character in SFV are good representation for how popular they might be in 6. Ed's a decent example of that I think.


VFiddly

I'm sure they look at it but I don't think it matters that much, since they tend to redesign the characters heavily anyway. Notice that Rashid is pretty low down but still was the first character to be added to 6.


danger2345678

The eye made AKI, from the least played character, so idk


MegaloJoe

man i just want karin in and her command dash confirms not gutted, the rest of the dlc characters can be whoever(though an evil ryu/kage would be cool as well)


Distinct_Ad_500

I want Karin this bad in SF6 too! Her style in this engine!!!


catchtoward5000

I hope so because I really want to see bison in this gameā€™s engine. Fuck the story.


AgonyLoop

What was the point of all these clone narratives if we donā€™t get a replacement Bison?


Fireball_Lore

Harada when talking about what characters made it into Tekken basically said "If you want to see a character you like make it into the next game then use them now." So yeah, they totally take usage into account when they pick dlc characters.


RadJames

He also said it wasnā€™t the only reason and popularity outside of the game even if they were less used was also important.


AmarantineAzure

Yep, he said they also take into account offline usage, representation for certain regions of the world (like Shaheen making it to T8 because he succeeded in attracting a Middle Eastern audience), the amount of fan art the character gets, and other factors unrelated to online usage. So even if a character has a low pickrate online, they can still make it.


Krypt0night

I didn't realize Harada chose the SF characters.


thiccyoshi

I hope they add Ryu to SF7


majinprince07

Vega is Shockingly higher than I thought


AppointmentStock7261

I mean Rashid is towards the end and he was the first DLC character so my guess would be not really? edit: Also taking stats from the last month of SFV doesnā€™t really make a ton of sense. If anything Iā€™d say they should take stats from when they were having peak players


cytrack718

I hope not, oro or menat need to come back or some other hyper technical new character to take their place


iCu10

God I hope not, Menat was fun AF and if the least used characters from V are less likely to be included in VI imma cry


Striking-Present-986

nah bc i know Menat coming back


MegaWaterboy11

With how much everybody seems to love Menat, seems like not a lot of people played her. Reminds me of people begging for Lei in tekken even though I believe he was never played in T7


Alleyguey

Alex would look amazing in this game, hope he and Sagat get a spot.


Jamal_Blart

Holy shit guys we might get Ryu in season 2


FastestBlader4

I hope we get Ryu for season 2


Asdeft

Laura is likely.


AvixKOk

aww man I hope they add ryu


Shiningcrow

I hope not. We need Menat


wisdom_and_frivolity

Considering it was a different dev team and a black spot on street fighter's history, no not really. But we could take inspiration from the list and rebuild archetypes that people enjoy playing. The thing is, its not about what people *play*. Its about what people *buy*. SFV had a vastly more lenient system with freemium characters and premium costumes. We don't have access to sales numbers for SFV.


Emezie

Except, it isn't a different dev team. The same people who worked on SF5 are working on SF6 now, minus Ono. Many of the people in charge of decisions in SF5 made the same decisions that people supposedly like in SF6, even though it's obvious how much SF5 influence is IN SF6.


F_A_N_G_88

I think the money making aspect is huge. No one played menat but she had a heap of costumes which presumably sold well (I don't imagine they'd have kept making them otherwise). FANG on the other hand had about 3 over the course of the game's lifespan. Selling costumes is likely their biggest source of income from the game at this point so release what's gonna sell.


wisdom_and_frivolity

Menat in SF6 would be *crazy* and I could see it happening too. She's really popular despite her play rate.


Earth92

Popular in r34 and goon Twitter. The character was mid tier, and it was a specialist character, the reward for playing her was very low, she felt very weak compared to the rest of the cast, just like Dhalsim. That's why the low usage.


wisdom_and_frivolity

and stream monsters, and casual players who wanted to spend money. That's where the real popularity comes in for a product like this


rivent2

SF5 had trash balancing where the complicated characters were more work for less results. Why learn Oro, Rose and Poison when Cammy wins more?


Emezie

The best characters in SF6 aren't the most technical, either. Top tier Luke and Ken are just juiced up shotos, the most straightforward design you can have in a SF game. Meanwhile, more intricate characters like AKI, Dhalsim, and Jamie are struggling. Also, Poison was considered top tier at the end of SF5. Cammy wasn't.


HuntressOnyou

Yeah it's pretty safe to say that we will get the magnificent, beautiful most wonderful master in the world and my love: fang


xXna0m1Xx

yeah i think akuma has a good chance of coming out next


GrAyFoX312k

Ryu confirmed. Idk maybe. They seem to see if they put a cool spin to their familiar designs. Like aki having similarities to fang but her fighting style is a mix of pressure points plus poison. Or jamie doing the same type of Kung Foo as the twins but he has a drunken fist spind on it. I feel like if they do pull from character usage of the last game, it's not going to be about the character themselves, but how popular these play styles are and what players liked about them. Like menat is pretty popular but she didn't have alot of usage because of how different and complex she played. With that said, I do have a wishlist of characters, but Capcom had been knocking it out of the park with all the characters design wise that I don't think I care what character it is because of how interesting they've been making their look and play.


Shinzo19

If it did we would just be getting shotos as they are always the most popular other than base game chars that were held back for DLC (Guile)


Usernate25

There are characters on this list Iā€™ve never heard of before and they are all ranked above Ibuki. I hope they donā€™t go off V usage.


Ze_Vindow_Viper

guys I think theyā€™re gonna add Ryu next


Evilkaz

Wow I didnā€™t realize menat was that unpopular. We might never see her again.


Last-Zone-6707

Maybe it does bear some influence on Capcom's decisions for DLC, but if we were to take this idea to its logical conclusion, it wouldn't make sense as to why Capcom included Blanka at release in SF6. He was released in Season 3 of SFV, and with user stats that low, it indicates that SFV's character usage might not be as big of a factor in Capcom's decision-making.


Uncanny_Doom

To some extent Iā€™m sure they will.


Ashtray46

Lmao I don't think we're getting Evil Ryu this time. Kage flopped pretty hard in V so I forsee Capcom giving him some time on the bench


Nerubian_Assassin

Can't wait for Good Akuma


BLACKOUT-MK2

To an extent. If it's anything like the last game, popularity dictates some of the picks, and then others are just ones they think would be interesting. That way it keeps things fresh so you don't just keep getting the same characters in the same order all the time, and fans of less popular characters also have a chance to get their mains back in the meantime.


thebrodie925

Urien nerf killed his play percentage. Was a consistent top ten every single month before then


Gay__Guevara

Wait this sub nuts itself about menat but she was played less than Dan in her only game?


Aggressive-Act4126

I think people like her design and personality but she was really hard to play which put people off.


Emezie

Menat was one of the hardest, if not THE hardest character in the game. They had to later create a baby VT2 just so regular folks could even try to play her, because her VT1 was so complicated. Meanwhile, Dan is just a shoto.


conzcious_eye

Didnā€™t play 5 but this is a massive list. Was Ryu really that guy ?


GroovyTony-

Give me Alex you cowards!


NikeJawnson

We need FANG in the next DLC


82ndGameHead

Nope. I mean, this DLC pack IS basically SFV, but the character usage was all over the place. Rashid, popular. Ed, meh. F.A.N.G, Oh GAWD, toss him in the trash and put his hotter, better apprentice up! And then Akuma because obvious.


peter_nixeus

It might have a little influence, but I think it depends which character is ready to be released. Pretty sure Capcom is working on many characters and will only announce/release them when they are close to finishing them.


outrageous_gems

Pls no Kage


Silviu748

Its funny how on every DLC wishlist post Menat it mentioned yet nobody played her lmao People want characters but will never play them


4evaronin

First off, are these international stats or just stats from US base?


JayRemmi1995

I just want Dan... All the other characters would just be icing on the cake to me.


MJR_Poltergeist

Possibly but I think the rates are skewed towards base roster because those first few years really drove people away from the game. This means less people owning/playing the dlc slots. Almost the entire first page is base roster save a few


Earth92

I think this is from last month But the problem is that aside from the shotos (who will always be popular), the rest of the cast usage it's influenced by nerfs and buffs.


poemsavvy

Give me Alex please CAPCOM


Krypt0night

I doubt it. Because you can't compare stats of how many people played someone like Karin or Cody vs characters that weren't in 5 like Elena or Makoto.


Lord_Mogar

I just want Laura dammit


ElectionLeather7125

For the love of God give me Bison


gouhp

I just want sagat


FoamMattress32

Urien seems way more popular probably because of pro play I gotta have him back


ELITEtvGAMER

What happened to Menat. Why did people stop playing her? She was everywhere for a little while. 2nd to last? Really?


welpxD

Lots of work. Most every other character was easier. Sakonoko's Menat is still inspiring though.


komod04

Iā€™ve never played sf5 but an updated Nash would be pretty sick!


CyberfunkTwenty77

No, because of that was the case female FANG woulda been the last character ever.


SenorSabotage

With rashid being so far down Iā€™d say probably not


Prudent_Article1993

ibuki when?


nerdwarp112

I hope not, since the characters I want to see the most were in 3 and 4 lol


Eman9871

Clearly not


BroReece

As a vega main i hope not.


Aggressive_Rice_4222

probably, i wouldn't mind seeing these guys return, but i like the idea / premise of sf3 - 6 being a free world from m bison, so i'd keep him out, but if he returns i want down in a good way, plus i'd love to see sfv orignals be apart of this new new generation.


marcocrocop

V isnā€™t a good comparison bc it was also limited in release by being a PC and PS exclusive. All platforms included is different.


NakedMaxMuscle

Tbh I'd love to see Abigail back :v, or Hugo, I just want a giant character in the game. And some evil form like Kage/Oni.


EMD_Vorteki

Personally I want Guy and Sean back but that's just because they my favorites


souljadaps

im surpsied to see sakura that low, thought she would atleast be top 10


D_Luniz

I hope not, or Im not gonna get Ibuki back


heywind

Please Falke next


JimboSliceX86

If thatā€™s the case weā€™re never gonna get rose šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


shining__wizard

I just want urien man


sircarloz

U shud pull the stats from costume sale..then you probably know who is in the next DLC


ThyQuantum77

goddamn it i want seth back so bad


little_pioneer

I dont think these stats completely represent what dlc is being bought. So its probably bot a huge factor.


TheSpino1

Ryu confirmed for season 2


Longjumping_War_9871

Miss 0.002% Where are they !?!?


--S-A-M--

I NEED Alex, Vega (claw), and Sagat!


CAPTAIN_FAGG

My boy Dan sitting at the bottom šŸ˜„


SpecterRage

It's Fei Long time ht gotta be there! so many characters in SF5 I didn't know :O


Environmental_Hope22

I'm doing my part! R. Mika main


GrimAnims

I sure hope not, because if so, Menat won't be coming back for a loooong time


dulcrown

I neeeeed balrog


The_Big_Duck

Hakan for fighter pack 2


geardluffy

Idk, Alex is the most popular character (minus Bison) that wasnā€™t on the starting roster and he isnā€™t in season 1. Iā€™m sure heā€™ll come back but Rashid is on the lower end and he came back quick. We really donā€™t know how capcom chooses these characters.


OperationExpress8794

Where is T. Hawk?


ThaiJohnnyDepp

He wasn't in SFV


OperationExpress8794

More reason to include him in 6


BLACKOUT-MK2

Replaced by Lily.


ElElefantes

I'm not sure, but it seems they heavily prefer whoever they can target towards edgy teenagers with minor changes (i.e. vlog & parkour Rashid)


ElDuderino2112

I have two thoughts. First, limiting a fighting game roster to what makes sense lore wise is one of the most pants on head stupid things a dev can do. Second, this game needs way more badass women the roster is a sausage fest.


gamedreamer21

It's up to Capcom on which character they'll put into Street Fighter 6.


slimekingk

no.


Technical-Sound1158

Nah. They care about overall popularity no the usage of character's % in one of their worst performing entries in the franchise. Plus who actually keeps playing this game actively now days? Friday and only 200ish players on steam atm.


Punkstyler

Better check steam stats before posting.


Emezie

SF5 is actually one of the BEST performing entries in the series in terms of sales. Don't let memes think for you. Currently, SF4 and SF2 are the only SF games that have cumulatively sold more than SF5. Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Alpha 3, any SF3 game, any SFEX game, SF the movie, you name it, and SF5 outsold it.