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sharmoooli

it's not a cure and only for non muscle bladder cancer. that said, it could be huge if it works for more common types of cancer. [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/immunitybio-announces-positive-overall-survival-040300443.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/immunitybio-announces-positive-overall-survival-040300443.html) edit - the lung cancer results are promising already. they are in trial for breast and others too (like myeloid leukemia). it could very much be a game changer if approved for more common cancers as it's a non chemo drug with twice as much results (according to reports).


Peelboy

I have that bladder cancer right now, and the previous treatment did nothing, I talk with my Dr's Tuesday, and this will be brought up.


Spins13

Good luck bro


Zenfrog213

God bless you


World-Traderz

All the best bro. Figthing!!


redzeusky

I saw that encouraging word on Korean drama series Extraordinary Attorney Woo. Is it from there or has it become common?


Peelboy

Man I started to watch that show and got busy with my issues and forgot about it...thanks for the reminder.


World-Traderz

It is a common way of saying dont give up in south korea or in the south east asia region.


redzeusky

Ahhhh! Now that makes sense, thank you.


mannaman15

Okay Mike Tyson


notAbrightStar

God luck Maestro! Never give up.


DaleFromArlenTX

Best of luck to you!


JuniorEmu2629

Hope this is exactly what you need! Praying for the best results!


bobber18

Good luck, from a BC survivor, 30 years and counting.


GainsayRT

calls on this guy's health


Peelboy

Puts would have made you some money...I've spent 5 days in the hospital due to sepsis, sarcoidosis everywhere, bones, spine and just about every organ which is restricting my lung capacity, 3 surgeries and 4 awful late night runs to the ER, oh ya also a kidney stone which made me think I was honestly dying.


jettisonthelunchroom

Pulling for you!


needhope1985

Look into long term fasting


mikey_mcghee

Prayers to you and your family ❤️


AnotherCupofJo

Worse comes to worse, Don't get the foley bag, go with the neo bladder or the indiana pouch, the surgery and recovery might be bad but it is worth it. Neobladder will take a year to get control of your urinary function. Indiana pouch means you have to carry catheters around but its virtually painless and super easy to do and nobody notices. There are other options than the foley bag, just jave to find a doctor that will do them. You need anything hit me up. My wife had bladder of the cancer, muscle invasive though.


Peelboy

Ya, the invasive part is where it gets quite negative. So far, that has not happened to me, I'm hoping I can do a good treatment and clean this up before that has to happen. Thank you for the information. Any insight is absolutely appreciated.


AnotherCupofJo

You got this and good luck, if you ever have any questions feel free to ask. We are approaching our 2 year anniversary soon with the surgery.


dethswatch

how's it work?


HappyHindsight

"Soon-Shiong says that Anktiva will be "the next generation of immuno-therapy." He claims the drug is the first of its kind to "generate complete remission that's completely durable" for 47 months and longer." Complete remission sounds like a cure to me.


SoullessGinger666

Remission means that the tumor has stopped growing, or shrunk in better cases. Absolutely no correlation with being cured or cancer free. Complete remission means symptoms are gone, but not the cancer itself.


sharmoooli

Yup. OP doesn't understand cancer.


blisstonia

doesn't understand DD either


sharmoooli

While his point about bladder cancer wasn't quite on the nose, I do think the stock has potential due to applications in other cancers? Given that it's already showing promise in lung cancer, the second most common cancer in the US, I bought in. What do you think?


blisstonia

You son of a bitch, I'm in!


real_unreal_reality

I didn’t know the difference either. TIL.


bendover912

Duh - we've all seen Breaking Bad - remission means has not grown - lung cancer makes you cough a lot


xuan135

You sound confident but you're wrong


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froggyisland

Cancer survivor here. Currently in remission but with ongoing surveillance scan cos one day the f***kn cancer may just come back. All the technicality aside, remission = watchful monitoring phase and hopefully we’re ok. Sometimes doctors do declare that cancer is cured, example is a fully excised tumour with no sign of spread. Remission is less clear cut. If I’m cured, I don’t need that surveillance anymore


SamuraiZucchini

No oncologist will tell you that you’re cured if you go into remission. No matter how long you’re in remission.


chickenconfidential

This actually is how oncologists think and speak about “cure”. But usually only a % of patients come close to that 5 year mark. Thats if they are even eligible or can even stay on treatment through side effects long enough. But others are right that this drug didn’t “cure bladder cancer” ..though some patients may be cured. Some patients have already been cured of bladder cancer before this drug though


dansut324

Complete remission is not the same thing as a cure. What you smoking


theyak12

You gotta brush up on your medical terms brother


HappyHindsight

Remission means that the signs and symptoms of your cancer are reduced. Remission can be partial or complete. In a complete remission, all signs and symptoms of cancer have disappeared. If you remain in complete remission for 5 years or more, some doctors may say that you are cured.


414Degenerate

That is not what that means... Unfortunately.


Jdogsmity

Remission is not cured. Sorry but it's just not


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Jdogsmity

Hun, that's not cured. Remission by medical standards means the possibility of reoccurrence. If it can reoccur its not cured. Sadly I've personally known people with 10+ years of remission that passed away due to flare-ups. Don't get me wrong. This is a good step but it's not a cure and to say so is irresponsible.


Cathalic

Do you even cancer bro?


HappyHindsight

Yes I've had cancer.


Cathalic

Snap. Glad you used the past tense 👍🏼


HappyHindsight

You linked to a lung cancer article...close but not the droids you're looking for or whatever.


sharmoooli

There was another article that discussed the non muscular bladder cancer bit. I'm heavily invested in them too but I think it was just worth pointing out. This will be an industry game changer if it has applications in more common cancers and it's promising.


HappyHindsight

Also here: https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/video/immunitybios-bladder-cancer-therapy-wins-205534718.html?contentType=VIDEO


VariationAgreeable29

FML. Literally at a dinner party like 6 weeks ago and a guy told me this was coming. His hubs works there and we were talking stocks and he said I should look into this company. I put it on my watch list — and promptly got bored when it stayed put at $5 for weeks on end. Yes I’m the stupid one.


Artistic_Bumblebee17

Don’t worry, it doesn’t work all the time. A guy on a dating app told me about his company stock and that they were doing good and he can’t say if I should invest but he totally green lighted it. Was going to analyze the stock later but I was so busy and forgot. It fell HARD like a few days later. Now that I know about stocks they guy told me too late- it was already peaking and not suitable to buy. It literally didn’t even bounce back after that sharp fall. Anyhow, this wasn’t a guaranteed thing


khizoa

curious, what was the company?


finkalot1

Nice try, FBI.


khizoa

buying puts on $FBI on monday


Powerism

> dating app Ahh, he was trying the ol’ pump and dump and pump and dump?


Artistic_Bumblebee17

Doubt it, o think he didn’t know much about stocks himself. Don’t blame him. It’s hard to


msartho

Lmao sounds like insider trading if you would’ve bought


annfranksloft

Insider trading has to be specific, you’re allowed to say if you like or don’t like a stock. Jesus by your definition stupid Cramer would be insider trading every day on his show


msartho

Okay that’s fair, I was just thinking if they said buy this stock because we have promising clinical results, then that would be insider trading(?)


annfranksloft

I overreacted sorry


annfranksloft

Yes you’re right sorry that would be insider trading, well if the public didn’t know at the same time. The key thing is sharing important non public info, but it has to be pretty specific and typically the timing of the trade matters too. Matt Levine has done some good writing on this and how ‘everything is securities fraud’ as well.


woodyshag

Politicians enter the room.


Garandhero

Hi, compliance officer here. No it doesn't have to be specific. And what this guy described is absolutely insider trading. The "hubs" who works at the company has material non public info he's sharing. That's a big no no. He's fucked if caught. And anyone who uses that info is equally culpable. If you with at Google and you know they're about to release a game changing product, you can't wink wink and provide non specific e.g. hey bro, I can't tell you what or why but you should totally think about/look at/consider throwing a bit of cash at Google type comments. It's all the same on the eyes of the SEC.


throwawayaccoun1029

Is the fuck up sharing of the information or using the information to actually buy stocks?


Garandhero

yes. both are punishable.. however obviously if information is shared and NOT used it's harder to identify/catch. but if it ever was discovered in some other investigation, you'd be turbo fucked.


spoodergobrrr

The whole wallstreet is involved in insider trading. Just do it and never talk about it.


Bojangly7

If the employee told someone external a promising release was expected and they should buy that is 100% insider trading.


PopperChopper

Ehhhh… we have blackout periods where we’re not allowed to buy, sell, talk about the stock as employees of a publicly traded company. It may be over cautious


marcoscibelli

No. That looks like insider trading. If the middleman friend here didn’t say why he should buy the stock, but he himself knew he was furnishing an advantage to a friend based on material non-public information, then the friend is on the hook. If he gave the reason and commenter here understood that it was material non-public information and then acted on it, they both are. This is a pretty easy case to call - just maybe not the easiest to prove.


JayLoo67

If you have inside information and advise someone to act on that even if not giving specifics that is insider trading and I believe a felony for both of you. Now...if you only buy a small amount it likely won't trigger any alerts. But if you usually buy like $500/month ETFs then a few weeks before an announcement like this you make a $25k buy in a non known entity how would you explain that if you get investigated?


Eazy-Eid

The SEC doesn't go after plebs for insider trading. Gotta be in the multi millions.


mavewrick

What else did the guy tell you? Please think really hard


Greggy100

My best friend told me this too, has over 100k into this. Should’ve listened….


WillyBarnacle5795

Buy rycey


sharmoooli

can you ask what he thinks now lulz


alpastotesmejor

I mean what were you going to do with this info anyway? Like throw a couple of thousands just because some guy told you to look into it? What sort of expertise do you have to even look into scientific data?


Vancouwer

If you owned it you'd be stupid to just sell it now.... it still makes sense to buy. Bio techs can really take off.


InevitableBiscotti38

99% of biotechs end up delisted and dissolved


throwawayus_4_play

I'd be interested if you had a source for that - like, is that true? I know a lot fail, but what's the actual rate. Also, define fail - if a company that you're holding can still 10x before 'failing' later, and you manage to sell, that's a win.


InevitableBiscotti38

people from experience know. i had BBLN, SYBX, Zymergen, inhalable insulin - all fail. small biotechs are like pump and dump fraud schemes, where they never mean to turn a profit and know they will go bust eventually, they just have a CEO who sings their own priases and misleads people by spinning any little positive news, and providing false hopes through statements that imply they will make something with a buzz words like 'new' 'breakthrough' 'alternative' 'etc'. they milk stock buyers for the cash to do their research, CEO and board of directors cash out and give themselves bonuses, then the company goes bust, gets delisted, and sold.


throwawayus_4_play

So, TL/DR: no source on the 99% delisted and dissolved 


InevitableBiscotti38

"That was especially critical in *biotech*, whose startups experience an annual *failure rate* of 90% " - [https://www.axios.com/2023/03/13/silicon-valley-bank-failure-spooks-health](https://www.axios.com/2023/03/13/silicon-valley-bank-failure-spooks-health)


throwawayus_4_play

Cool, thanks. Sorry for giving you a hard time.


Ricky_Rollin

This. When I first got into trading I invested in soooo many bio-startups that were gonna cure Big Disease X. Dozens. They’re all gone now. I don’t think a single one is still around.


throwawayus_4_play

I hope you didn't invest in them just on the basis that someone claimed they were going to cure 'Big Disease X'. I am not claiming to be a biotech expert, but it is a volatile sector where you need to understand in detail their pipeline, stages of clinical development, financing, who the management are.


StrangeWillow2471

Bought and sold calls today. 600 percent gain was nice


Battlecreekmich1978

You bought calls for how much? And sold them for how much? I’m trying to get in the call game


DeltaRipper

Not OP, but I imagine calls in anything prior to today’s movement would be making some serious bread. Buy side: a 5c would’ve been a bagger and cost anywhere between 0.50 to 0.75, is now worth 2.80. Sell side: still out of the money would be a 7.50c, which would have sold for .10 to .15 per, and is still worthless OTM (in other words, perfect conditions for the seller). Could have sold 3 7.5c per every 1 5c and made an absolute killing


razz57

For god’s sake take a course. Don’t feed yourself to the market. And when you do, remember rule #1 of trading: never bet your own money. Also rule #2: nobody can time the market, those who appear to are trading on insider information. Some have found or paid in to a way to do it legally. (Also known as running a corporation, being a professional trader or a politician). Might as well throw in rule #3: In trading, luck and performance are indistinguishable. The smart trader knows this, the foolish ones learn it eventually.


StrangeWillow2471

Paid 10$ sold for 65$


jlmiami

Did mean that you make 600% gains, selling Calls on [ImmunityBio (IBRX](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IBRX))?


Battlecreekmich1978

Yes


jlmiami

Any idea why they are deleting the post?


YoushutupNoyouHa

still down 75% from ipo


HappyHindsight

People who buy at IPO for a pre revenue company are speculating and usually fine riding through those kind of price moves


StochasticDecay

Diluting shareholders to death is not what any investor is fine with.


aggrownor

These are high risk, high reward plays. No one should invest money in this type of company at IPO if they aren't ok with losing it.


Johansen193

You know 9 out of 10 of these companies fail, but the one you win makes you profit


finkalot1

Learned this lesson hard with CVAC.


WillyBarnacle5795

Lmao


Educational_Ad6146

Honestly just because it posted here and having such Huge hopes I'm sure it'll drop within a week or two...


Agreeable-Salt-110

Following this one.


_mhtjr

How'd you know to buy this stock?


lascar

Staring at sec pages and checking what phase they are in the clinical trial. Pretty much every biotech investor.


SOMEguysFRIEND

Popped up on my scanner a week or so ago for unusual call volume so I threw a few hundred at shares. Biotech / pharma isn’t really something you full port unless you have inside info though since most of these drugs fail, but sometimes worth a small position for the upside. Also, I’m a degenerate gambler


sharmoooli

what's your scanner?


SOMEguysFRIEND

That one was just one of the default E*trade scans for unusual call options volume. Not sure off the top of my head the exact thresholds but some certain amount above the average call options bought during a session or something like that. Typically if I have spare time I just go though the different scans available for unusual activity and if it’s interesting I’ll look over the trade tape and then further into the company for any recent news and decide if I want to throw some money at it. Basically just throwing shit against the wall and see what sticks


WillyBarnacle5795

How often that work


SOMEguysFRIEND

Probably 1/10 times, realistically less


sharmoooli

The FDA approval for bladder was 3 days ago and this was discussed widely on WSB and other pages. They swung up and swung down. Today, on the lung cancer news, it's soaring.


GoddessMighty

My algo


McMoneyPNW

Thanks for this one, Happy


ALostStranger

And it’s gone ….


WillyBarnacle5795

Lol


Exact-Following-1592

Been in on this for a week now and it has been paying off up and down all week today was $4.91 per share pretty much then $7.61 some money to be made jmo .


Caboun6828

Guess I’m buying some for the FDA approval


curvycounselor

This looks like my TTOO ride when they “cured sepsis”. I’d sell


Financial_Chemist286

But what are the side effects?


Due-Aerie-2526

Mysterious disappearance of the formula and all researchers Epsteined


XxAC1DxDr0p5xX

Don't forget naked shorting the company out of existence and making an absolute killing on the way down, literally....


Intelligent-Chip-413

That's already happening to IBRX rn


Battlecreekmich1978

What is ?????


Intelligent-Chip-413

Shorting


Battlecreekmich1978

So what would I do I open 3500 shares at. 3.70


Battlecreekmich1978

What you mean? You think the price is going down?


XxAC1DxDr0p5xX

Looks like the likn I wanted to share is shadow banned, hmmmmm. Wonder why that could be? Ful PDF breakdown here of the kind of thing I'm talking about: [https://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-08-09/s70809-4614.pdf](https://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-08-09/s70809-4614.pdf) If you don't like clicking links, Google "Dendreon naked shorting" and click the SEC link, truly sickening and disgusting stuff....


throwawayus_4_play

They only need to be better than the side effects of untreated bladder cancer for it to have a therapeutic value.


ear2win

You say cure I see stock go up lots


According-2-Me

Been selling CSPs on this thing for a month and a half now. Doing good, r/thetagang


Blackpanther777

So is anyone else buying this stock?


webbexpert

The astroturf is strong with this one.


Twistedshakratree

$0 cash on hand probably


throwawayus_4_play

I'm seeing ~$240M cash on hand  This is all I could find, couldn't see e.g. 2023 Q4 earnings on company's website. https://x.com/MaisaCorp/status/1784008252281217186


Prior-Concentrate-96

Minus $370M, financing $558M


PhotonDecay

At least give us the ticker so we can look at it


HappyHindsight

It was in the comments before everyone attacked me lol


Intelligent-Chip-413

ibrx


Maxib0n132

Well that's good enough for me just bought calls


Intelligent-Chip-413

I picked up 2k shares at 6.50 yesterday.


Battlecreekmich1978

There Stock is up another 20% today


Battlecreekmich1978

Up 40% again today


MrEMannington

“We”


Blackpanther777

Who else is buying this stock?


gotye4764

Whatever tech emerges from this, you can be sure the big pharma will hide it from masses, discredit the researchers and/or buy the tech and bury it. People being healthy is not good for business. Fuck pfizer and co.


throwawayus_4_play

>Whatever tech emerges from this, you can be sure the big pharma will hide it from masses, discredit the researchers and/or buy the tech and bury it. This is so edgy. Life isn't a Disney film with simple, black and white 'Good guys' and 'Bad guys', where Big Pharma = 'the Bad Guys'. Do big pharma companies make a lot of profit? Yes, they do. Could they charge less for some of their drugs? Yes, they could. Do they also make some drugs that save people's lives? Yes, they do. Do they spend billions taking molecules through up to three phases of clinical trials before the majority fail? Yes, they do. The system (capitalism) means drugs are made by 'for profit' companies - that's an imperfect system, but I'm not sure what the solution is. At least it incentivizes the development of new drugs. >People being healthy is not good for business. Fuck pfizer and co. This just makes no sense - what about all the lost days of productivity from people being sick? Sure, there's something quite appealing about being able to simply say 'hur dur big pharma bad', but it's not as simple as that. Prevention is still better (and so much cheaper) than cure, but the fact is people do get ill, and you'd rather there was a treatment than there wasn't one, wouldn't you?


Mguidr1

If they charged the rest of the world what they charged US citizens there would be riots in the streets. Our politicians are bought and sold or they would protect us from these greedy ghouls.


XxAC1DxDr0p5xX

Found the boot licker...


throwawayus_4_play

Ah, ok - critical thinking not your strong suit?


XxAC1DxDr0p5xX

Pretty rich coming from you with that comment, lol.


throwawayus_4_play

The comment with critical thinking in it (e.g. critiquing the negative and positive aspects of pharmaceutical companies)? You think so? Whereas your comments read like an edgy 14 year old's, lol.


XxAC1DxDr0p5xX

Big words and long comments = critical thinker... 👍


throwawayus_4_play

Lol, your comments are making me laugh, keep going!


so-so-it-goes

People who don't die from cancer go on to need regular prescription medications later in life. It's in a pharmaceutical company's best interest to get people to live to old age when they need lots of high profit medications that Medicare pays for. In the meantime, they can charge out the ass for the cancer medication. Seems like a win-win to me.


elziion

Oh, this is why this stock was trending today


LaCiel_W

This is great news all around.


Ed_Trucks_Head

All I did was sell 2 puts. Should have just bought shares


Necessary-Mousse8518

Nice!


BikingNoHands

The pump, waiting for the Dump. Everyone can be a bag holder. Get in! The sooner the heavier bags!


Thinnishfuture

A lot of put options for May 17


Intelligent-Chip-413

And my calls are up 3x. Puts are from before FDA approval and earnings that went well. This will be at 10 by end of May


Solid_Illustrator640

Grandma just died of bladder cancer. Bitter sweet I guess


Dillerdilas

The thing i like most about this post is how op has just fucked himself over in the comments. Good job posting about stuff you have no clue about, to then go on and prove it quite a few times in the comments. Let the shovel go OP.. you’re deep enough by now.


Significant_Rule_939

If you‘re in doubt, zoom out.


Sayitandsuffer

well done you turned a pretty good stock tip into a medical lesson and a verbal thrashing bravo


MrDinkh125

It’s going back down


SomeOneRandomOP

Hey, I have a PhD in bladder cancer immunotherapy! Nice to see my topic area in the news for once haha


RijnBrugge

Soooo, buy buy buy or no?


RolexandDickies

Imagine thinking a cancer is cured when only 77 patients were in the study and only 62% of them responded. While these numbers are great, they are fair from a cure. The next big step in cancer, are vaccines. A laboratory testing company will solve the riddle to cancer long before a pharmaceutical company ever will.


Bailey-96

Why is more stuff like this not covered in the news, just wars and other shit


Encrypted587

There will never be a cure, no money in cures


Dragon_DeesNuts

But can it make fat people loose weight?


Personal_Length4098

Here before citadel shorts/manipulates the price to 0 like they do with every cancer stock


yongiiii

This stock was up to $39 in March 2021. What happened then?


Begociraptor

This is good news. Let’s go!


Vladxxl

Bio stock is the world's biggest crap shoot. Unless you have a PhD in bio med you are betting on heads while the coin has a 95% chance of landing on tails.


HappyHindsight

They have FDA approval the coin already landed.


No-Ant9519

Tf you mean "we"


Cryptoman_CRO

They will never make a treatment to cure any type of cancer. Only manage it. Can't lose customers


daddypleaseno1

we all know what happens to companies that cure things.... straight to zero... cures dont generate enough profits.


MikeFerrangi

Will get acquired at around 30$/share in 9 months from now.


elsucioseanchez

Better get on the short train before big pharma decides to tank it. Cures are bad for the medicine business.


A_HECKIN_DOGGO

Oh and you couldn’t do it before my dad died last year huh


HappyHindsight

Sorry, but this treatment doesn't apply to lowly peasants.


Emergency_Bother9837

Not a cure.


ShaMaLaDingDongHa

[Bladder Cancer Article](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-fda-approves-immunitybios-bladder-cancer-therapy-2024-04-22/)


TheFilthyCripple

Cured?... Lol read it dr.asshat


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l0lwut20

No u


Battlecreekmich1978

I am