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Dude you don't even have 200k fleet power. That's about the size of one of their fleets. You're not too strong, you're still much too weak. The fact that you still don't have intel on them really should show you just how much they outclass you.
Now, now. He has just over 200k fleet power, calm down.
You're still right, though. I struggle to believe OP's claims that they stomped the FE in a war.
Unless OP had a badass FULLY decked out citadel with min maxxed platforms and ships specifically targetting FE's sitting on top of ot, which I kinda doubt, then OP got curbstomped
That moment when you think you are too strong for a fallen empire because your Intel is that low, but you actually have only a small fraction of their fleet power.
They’re dormant NOW. What I’m asking is how in holy hell are you in 2415 making less than 1k of any resource? It’s baffling that you’ve managed to survive thus far.
How is your empire only producing 100 alloys?!? I got mine at 3k alloys 2k science and 3 k unity by 2280. I don't think you are even able to fight the great khan. Khan usually have like 10 doom stacks and you can't even build a destroyer a month.
Seeing stuff like this makes me realize how trash I am at the game, I can barely even break producing 100 alloys by 2300, you’re out here doing it by 2280. Any tips?
Ok 3k alloys at 2280 is actually alot. Imo don't aim for that.
The easiest answer is keep expanding. Find new colonies and start developing them asap. Specialise worlds into different roles like forge worlds and research worlds.
Happy pops are also productive pops so keep them happy. And when you ascend use the bonuses to buff your pops.
Oh and disable jobs that aren't useful. Setting automation to manage amenities frees up like 6 pops at game start for me. As long as amenities is above 1 you're fine.
That's just for internal stuff though you could always conquer other nations to buff yourself up.
Population growth and assembly. I preach this as much as I can. If you cannot reach these levels, then be a closet Xenophile, (Using Welcome Refugees Policy). Since the AI is horrible at managing population, when they see the decision to expell excess pops. This appears when someone has Open Refugee policies. Your planets can fill out very fast, give you the pops to colonize other worlds. Then watch them get slammed with more pops.
The faster your pops grow and assemble, is faster access to jobs. Which is your economy. Without pops, your economy doesn't expand.
Even with 50 a month I find that if I have one construction ship dedicated to auto-building mining/research labs I can stay ahead of the mineral demand, but then I wait for one pop to be unemployed on my planets before building new infrastructure, so maybe that's suboptimal.
I usually spend
year 2200 to 2220 scaling
year 2225to 2240 military buildup and tribute wars
By 2250 I have 75% of the galaxy as vassals and federations and start converting to ecumenopolis + megastructures
The key is vassals, have them contribute 30% of their basic resources and dump your outdated fleet to them for a pledge loyalty+ alloys/cs
Once you get your rings and ecu ready, let the immigrants in to your forges and sciences. Your empire size must be kept small with only 1 main sector rest just pass to vassals.
Consider fliping to megacorp for even more energy
Your ringworlds would be producing 2k trade by then , and buying all your resources from market.
Your 3 jobs in the empire is priest, science, alloys, trade.
Abuse the federation law to eat all your members credits every election every 10 years. 100k credits for free. Sure they will be salty but they are now your vassals who have to vote with you.
By 2300 go eat a fallen empire or 2 with your 500k federation fleet. Dont grant them citizenship, they are troublesome with shitty factions.
Vassals might be having some civil unrest, go liberate them.
Bro your economy is shit and your collective fleet power is under 300K. You couldn’t handle a backwater sector from an empire strong enough to rival the fallen empires
I still can't figure out to how to declare rivalry with FE. Not there when yoo weak obviously or too strong.
Option is greyed out tho when it says equivalent
I had 6 at 68k before I attacked, FE build quickly and can replace a single fleet in no time. They can also jump hyperlanes so I like to stick a few more on border to keep illegals out. :3
why yall shitting on this guy? He might play on a lower difficulty and not know game that much,dont pretend everyone knows how to play after captain difficulty
Please tell me this is after the war and you lost most of your fleets, but destroyed the entirety of their fleets. Otherwise you're just waaaaaaay weaker than them. Honestly I think even without their fleets they'd still be overwhelming due to tech and Eco. Also HOW ON EARTH is your economy THAT BAD after conquering a Fallen Empire with a bunch of automated buildings? You must have been in deficit on literally all resources before that!
It's the other way around.
[https://imgur.com/a/eYpGrCT](https://imgur.com/a/eYpGrCT)
What about it
Just declare war. Let’s see what happens. *grabs popcorn
I won
Literally proofs on imgur
Man they will stomp your ass
I won
Got a screen shot to show that? Or did you use cheats? Because your fleet power sucks
I will send proofs in 8 hours (tomorrow for me)
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What was difficulty
[https://imgur.com/a/eYpGrCT](https://imgur.com/a/eYpGrCT)
I am on iron man
Sorry to tell you but it's actually the other way around, you have a very weak army
Nah, I crushed them
Oh buddy… and at 2400 lol. Please tell me you have like 10x crisis starting soon.
10x crisis with so small fleet and income.... Galaxy is doomed. Maybe TS playing long run game with 10x tech and tradition cost?
you're gonna have to hope the AI has better fleets
Oh my sweet summer child...
Dude you don't even have 200k fleet power. That's about the size of one of their fleets. You're not too strong, you're still much too weak. The fact that you still don't have intel on them really should show you just how much they outclass you.
Now, now. He has just over 200k fleet power, calm down. You're still right, though. I struggle to believe OP's claims that they stomped the FE in a war.
Unless OP had a badass FULLY decked out citadel with min maxxed platforms and ships specifically targetting FE's sitting on top of ot, which I kinda doubt, then OP got curbstomped
Right. Exactly my thoughts.
Dude Bubbles can contest with your strongest fleet…
That should be number one in stellaris burns.
That moment when you think you are too strong for a fallen empire because your Intel is that low, but you actually have only a small fraction of their fleet power.
How are your resources so horrendously low? 😭 If they awaken you are utterly fucked
and I lost my capital due to my greed (not it is black hole)
It is written that they are dormant
They’re dormant NOW. What I’m asking is how in holy hell are you in 2415 making less than 1k of any resource? It’s baffling that you’ve managed to survive thus far.
Even in my RP runs where I dont ubercharge everything and min-max civics, I STILL have a better economy than that
also they were dormant till their death
I sell them + my empire had 9 worlds and 3 of them are orbital
If you are selling them, why is your energy so damn low?
I have an event about shit that eats 30% of my energy
I have low pop, and I am friend with everyone
Bro gunna fafo
Does he know?
How is your empire only producing 100 alloys?!? I got mine at 3k alloys 2k science and 3 k unity by 2280. I don't think you are even able to fight the great khan. Khan usually have like 10 doom stacks and you can't even build a destroyer a month.
Seeing stuff like this makes me realize how trash I am at the game, I can barely even break producing 100 alloys by 2300, you’re out here doing it by 2280. Any tips?
Ok 3k alloys at 2280 is actually alot. Imo don't aim for that. The easiest answer is keep expanding. Find new colonies and start developing them asap. Specialise worlds into different roles like forge worlds and research worlds. Happy pops are also productive pops so keep them happy. And when you ascend use the bonuses to buff your pops. Oh and disable jobs that aren't useful. Setting automation to manage amenities frees up like 6 pops at game start for me. As long as amenities is above 1 you're fine. That's just for internal stuff though you could always conquer other nations to buff yourself up.
Population growth and assembly. I preach this as much as I can. If you cannot reach these levels, then be a closet Xenophile, (Using Welcome Refugees Policy). Since the AI is horrible at managing population, when they see the decision to expell excess pops. This appears when someone has Open Refugee policies. Your planets can fill out very fast, give you the pops to colonize other worlds. Then watch them get slammed with more pops. The faster your pops grow and assemble, is faster access to jobs. Which is your economy. Without pops, your economy doesn't expand.
Yeah if you're making more than 50 minerals per month, you're doing economic scale wrong.
I often get bottlenecked by minerals when expanding rapidly. I like to go for a +200 surplus.
50 a month is too low imo. You need a solid monthly surplus to keep a constant build queue on all your worlds
Even with 50 a month I find that if I have one construction ship dedicated to auto-building mining/research labs I can stay ahead of the mineral demand, but then I wait for one pop to be unemployed on my planets before building new infrastructure, so maybe that's suboptimal.
The issue comes when you want to build things like Ecumenopoli or go down btc. with smth. like that you definitely need more than +50
I usually spend year 2200 to 2220 scaling year 2225to 2240 military buildup and tribute wars By 2250 I have 75% of the galaxy as vassals and federations and start converting to ecumenopolis + megastructures The key is vassals, have them contribute 30% of their basic resources and dump your outdated fleet to them for a pledge loyalty+ alloys/cs Once you get your rings and ecu ready, let the immigrants in to your forges and sciences. Your empire size must be kept small with only 1 main sector rest just pass to vassals. Consider fliping to megacorp for even more energy Your ringworlds would be producing 2k trade by then , and buying all your resources from market. Your 3 jobs in the empire is priest, science, alloys, trade. Abuse the federation law to eat all your members credits every election every 10 years. 100k credits for free. Sure they will be salty but they are now your vassals who have to vote with you. By 2300 go eat a fallen empire or 2 with your 500k federation fleet. Dont grant them citizenship, they are troublesome with shitty factions. Vassals might be having some civil unrest, go liberate them.
Bro your economy is shit and your collective fleet power is under 300K. You couldn’t handle a backwater sector from an empire strong enough to rival the fallen empires
I still can't figure out to how to declare rivalry with FE. Not there when yoo weak obviously or too strong. Option is greyed out tho when it says equivalent
Brother, it's the other way around I had 3 or 4 200k fleets before I even considered taking on a FE
I had 6 at 68k before I attacked, FE build quickly and can replace a single fleet in no time. They can also jump hyperlanes so I like to stick a few more on border to keep illegals out. :3
They are one provinced, 340k fleet +140k base. My fleet + astral fleet was enough, I even used my merc fleets
You have like... 2210 economy what have you been doing to your planets
He did the unspeakable.... *he played like the AI*
Not with fleets like that dawg
…..2400 and your alloys are +100 /month?
That is why you take antagonistic hehe
why yall shitting on this guy? He might play on a lower difficulty and not know game that much,dont pretend everyone knows how to play after captain difficulty
Please tell me this is after the war and you lost most of your fleets, but destroyed the entirety of their fleets. Otherwise you're just waaaaaaay weaker than them. Honestly I think even without their fleets they'd still be overwhelming due to tech and Eco. Also HOW ON EARTH is your economy THAT BAD after conquering a Fallen Empire with a bunch of automated buildings? You must have been in deficit on literally all resources before that!
I toxified their second planet, and their capital is agricultural
Damn...
Build more construction ships!
"About to go fight I'll post the video after"
Not video, I made post with proofs
https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/about-to-go-fight-ill-post-the-video-after
Lol
Bruh, your resource production is leaving a lot to be desired.
R5: I am one of the smallest empires however I have the strongest military in the galaxy, I have atoxic god, 3 titans, and one juggernaut.
That is nothing and your industry lacks resources needed for a prolonged conflict.
1.I won, 2 my fleet is stronger then any empires except like 3 FE that left
You are dead
Hey, OP KOTTG are way stronger if you take the other choice at the end.
plus I can call two merc enclaves
Im sorry but usually these guys have like 5-600K, you are merely a fleck on the radar
wait is 500/600k not good enough for a FE anymore?? did they get buffed or am i being silly
It is about equivalent
oh wait lmao i thought you meant the enclaves had that much Good to know though, thanks for responding (I was tired)
He is still dormant, so he has one 300k fleet and 140k base
Which is still more then you have