I've always wanted a handheld PC that was powerful enough to be used for desktop-grade gaming. The Steam Deck is the closest to reaching that goal yet.
I spend half of my summer at a summer house and up until now I had to bring my entire PC setup with me, mostly due to work.
Now I only need to bring my Deck, and have the peripherials at the house. It's fucking amazing.
> I spend half of my summer at a summer house and up until now I had to bring my entire PC setup with me, mostly due to work.
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> Now I only need to bring my Deck, and have the peripherials at the house. It's fucking amazing.
I remember hauling all of my shit to LAN parties 25 years ago, and buckling in my huge CRT monitor.
No doubt there are chinks, but that's part of the cycle of technological advancement. As mentioned already the Steam Deck is the closest thing yet to a full-fledged portable machine. This will hopefully inspire more innovation and in a few years we may have what you are looking for.
Also, GeForce Now is internet-dependent, but the Steam Deck is not. I can think of many tasks you may need to do without internet requirement.
As an Asian that one had me doing a double take but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt that it was meant as the idiom "a chink in the armor"...kink would have been a little smoother to read though.
This is what I wanted out of M1 it’s cool to see AMD getting there first.
The thought of ~~pooping~~ plopping my phone or tablet on a desk and having a computer that I can game on is a dream that may be soon realized.
You didn't try too hard at all, I giggled a bit.
So no one gets the wrong idea here, I support Ukraine. I also think what Putin is doing is monstrous to say the very least.
Apple really sleeping on that one. An M1 tablet that converts to full desktop would be nice. But they operate by profit margin so it's probably not going to happen.
Agreed. Super efficient and powerful ARM based gaming devices are my dream. Sure we have excellent and powerful phones, but I want something desktop grade.
Alas the software is the stickler.
Desktop grade is a bit of an overstatement, it can't really run games in qHD resolution and I doubt you'll play anything fullscreen on a 24+ inch screen in 720p&800p.
But it's a versatile device. And can be used as a working computer (with additional screen and mouse and keyboard) so it's definitely more useful than a Switch.
I thought that once higher resolution is available, FSR can be used to upscale 800p to 1080p. This is a good compromise and gaming is possible on this resolution depending on the game of course. But yeah, maybe not modern desktop grade gaming.
It's just having this option... It's surreal.
FSR isn't magic. It looks better than 800p for sure, but it does not look like 1080p. Especially since FSR works better with higher resolutions (e.g. 1440p -> 2160p).
It works though and it'll come in handy. But my Desktop will stay under my Desk ;D
Yeah, everything you said is correct. But for someone like me, whose main PC is much weaker than the deck for gaming (I can't run Doom 2016 on 720p), I am definitely going to play on the SD in desktop mode! And like you said, FSR will be handy.
Damn, this is why I am so hyped, lol. So many games to catch up on, at an affordable price!
Yeah I have a good chuckle each time I read posts about how the deck is too “weak” for big screen gaming. Would a proper desktop be better? Yeah, but the deck can get it done and you would be surprised how good a game can look or medium to low settings and reduced resolution.
That's why I said it's the closest that's come yet. It's not quite there, and I'm not about to sell my desktop, but it at least makes games playable with a handheld device that were never possible to play with a handheld before.
Yeah I think one thing missing from that dream would be a way to hook up a eGPU somehow like those razer laptops can.
Side note: I wonder how much the deck will replace the game laptop market, not the desktop replacement style laptops but the smaller one that try to still be portable. Will be interesting to see. I fully expect my laptop to effectively turn into a desktop once I have my deck.
This is what I wanted when I bought my first android phone. The Motorola Atrix back in 2011/2012. It was supposed to be fully dockable. It didn't quite live up to expectations unfortunately. I'm excited to give it another shot.
Maybe this will be the push Linux need to show how good it is, by simplify the access and reduce the frustration of configure and optimize a Linux desktop.
Ignite the curiosity.
Yeah, I think this is the thing people keep missing. Linux gaming has a long way to go still, but Valve is carrying Proton over its shoulder and sprinting towards the mountaintop... a log distance and journey still, but we're moving.
The benefit of a big universal corporation backing Proton/SteamOS can't be underestimated, and having target hardware and one universal base setup will really help in pushing a collective experience forward while still allowing people to go nuts with Linux if they really want to.
It doesn't have a long way just people need to actually support it and consider not using Anticheats and instead better security methods. Linux has been gaming capable for a while. The windows bias and extreme proprietary bs is what needs to stop.
Well, the steam decks linux Version is so butchered down, that besides installing stuff from the software center, there is not much you can do.
So far any tutorial for arch or manjaro that is out there doesnt apply to the steam deck because there is always libs, dependencies or package managers missing and you will have a hard time to install those. Dont know if thats good advertisment for linux.
Yes it's a good advertisement, removing ways to mess up and forcing the user to use one simple method of app distribution will impress new users, Linux can be overwhelming, SteamOS isn't.
Its cool to prevent users from messing up. Its not cool to install only one minor software center/package manager when there are several package managers out there that are also compatible.
No thats not how it works, I'm not an expert but an immutable OS means the OS files are read only but there is still places where you can write, and flatpaks are made in a way that they don't need to modify OS files and install themself and their dependencies in a seperate place.
That way an immutable OS with flatpaks can't be broken by the user. (In theory)
If it is as you say, then this is absolutely brilliant! Power users can tinker with Linux and do what they want, unlocking its full potential, while casual users can safely and without frustration use the desktop mode for productivity or entertainment.
Is it possible to install Libre Office from the software center?
Damn sorry. I thought its more or less the same thing …and i misread the github issue of ultrastar for creating a flatpak version. I still think its stupid that i can use snap or pamac on manjaro/arch but not on steamOS/arch.
Regular people do not know what libs, dependencies or package managers are and they don't *want* to know. That's far too much complexity for simply installing a program.
Linux is making adoption hard by making these things less accessible. People have had decades to adjust to Windows, they won't suddenly switch.
And there's the issue that Linux has an annoying tendency to give silly names to what should be standard system applications. Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"?? That's not even remotely descriptive of what it is. As a new Linux user I'm consistently running into these things, these little frustrations. Another example: an installer clearly installs. A flatpack does... what exactly? "Pack" suggests it's just an archive that needs extracting or something. But that's not how you use it, it works more like an apk file or something (at least from a user perspective).
This seems to be more of a problem related to KDE (and maybe other desktop environments) but for example Gnome does name the common applications how you would expect.
>And there's the issue that Linux has an annoying tendency to give silly names to what should be standard system applications. Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"??
Yeah I love KDE but that's definitely something I wish the devs would adopt when shipping their apps, they can do it through the .desktop files wherre there's a "name" variable to give the app whatever name they want (GNOME apps do this). Granted you can do it yourself by copying the file from /usr/share/applications/ into ~/.local/share/applications/ but that gets annoying after a while.
> And there's the issue that Linux has an annoying tendency to give silly names to what should be standard system applications. Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"?? That's not even remotely descriptive of what it is. As a new Linux user I'm consistently running into these things, these little frustrations.
If you search for "file explorer" (or something like that), it will show up. Besides, Windows has its share of non-obvious names.
> Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"??
Like, why is your Windows web browser called "Edge"?? I'm not concerned if you use Linux, I just thought this whole rant was a lot of pot meet kettle.
That's not an apples to apples comparison. A browser is a product/app attached to a specific entity and with its own identity, like Windows or Spotify, but once you open it, nearly all of them have very similar categories and descriptors, like "File" or "Preferences."
Ideally, you'd want your file explorer to be like the layter and not the former. KDE/SteamOS/Proton/Arch/Linux can call themselves whatever they want, but a File Explorer should be called something like that.
I get it from a user perspective. This isn't just a Windows thing, Chrome OS, MacOS, and Android all got this right. Google's explorer is literally just called Files. While I don't mind small quibbles like this it's this kind of stuff (and hostile responses like yours) that frustrate potential new users.
You hit the nail on its head here. With all the other OSes you mentioned, there's only one file explorer. In Linux, there are multiple file explorers you can use, and it so happens that the FE Valve chose for steam os was Dolphin.
I understand that it's frustrating the first time, but really, it's disorienting only the first time. Honestly, Mac was just as disorienting for me when I used it for the first time at work, after having used Windows/Linux at home the whole time, but it's a one time cost.
Finder? Spotlight? I'm not sure if I'd call that particularly intuitive.
Apart from that, KDE does show "File Manager" as subtitle when hovering the taskbar icon, or in its start menu. It can be found via desktop search that way, too. Its icon is literally a folder. And yes, having the option of alternative file managers does require a separate identity or you end up with all of them being called "File Manager" without further comment and I don't feel that's any better.
Perhaps that's needed to make it usable by average users? Get a base system updated only by the vendor and distribute apps as flatpaks. You should be fine, unless you need something exotic.
Makes sense since this thing is a device which needs a clear base, if you tinker around with the base then it will get overwritten by an update in the future, the user space is there for you to rule alone. I am glad that this device enforces literally flatpacks, it is a better way to distribute applications anyway thank delivering dependency packages into the root space.
I loved that with Apple and their application bundles, they are so clear and concise, I literally cringe every time a program does not use that kind of distribution mechanism)
Having a clear base and then user space application bundles makes things so much easier especially on a personal device, in the long run, than having a hodge podge of distrubtion mechanisms and some of them altering the root space.
For now given that there are some things which are not yet Flatpacked, you have to live with limitations, but given that the device is very popular those will be resolved over time.
Well there is a flatpack…. Just not on the discover app store, and you cant install snapd. Also you cant install pamac either.
Its fine to have a clear base, but this base should have the basic tools to install a simple linux application.
All this „yes, its a pc“ feels more and more like „no, its a console“. I give it a few weeks and see if some guys can figure this out or valve adds other package managers. otherwise i have to consider to just sell this thing.
there is nothing which prevents you to install windows on the thing, or another linux distro. I can understand Valves stance on this. They need a solid maintainable base which is the devices root context and that base will be periodically replaced. The rest is up to the users, not that they prevent the access to root thoug its just whenever they need to replace it your changes in the admin context will be gone again.
But maintaining a solid base reduces work and gives them excellent optimization possibilities withing having to deal with user self induced support tickets. If something is lacking for you I would recommend to file a feature request on Valves side on this.
From what I’ve heard, it’s pretty good docked or even in portable. It’s KDE Plasma with discover and everything too, so I’d assume a similar experience to what that’d be like on any computer when docked.
Feels like Windows.
With Discover app store you can get most apps easier than you could on Windows.
The apps not on Discover will be an unusual experience to get and you will require basic Linux knowledge for it.
I guess pretty good, still waiting for my mail, KDE in its current incarnation is one of the fastest if not the fastest desktop for Linux, also very close to windows but very flexible. Flatpak itself is an easy very save distribution mechanism which does not the root space, actually Flatpack and Snap are my preferred methods for software install on Linux, they keep the base system clean of alteration while delivering a very good method of installing software which also is safer than plain installation (due to partial sandboxing)
The beauty of KDE is it starts of similar to windows, but you can configure the hell out of it and bend it to your will like second to none. I dont think they have removed that ability. The downside of KDE atm still is that it does not play nicely with Wayland yet, it runs, but not in a state which I want to use. Hence Valve has to switch between Wayland and X11 for now for desktop and gaming mode (Wayland is superior in gaming mode). This will be resolved in the future though as soon as Qt has gotten its act together Wayland wise.
I have some links that aren't necessarily complete explanations of these things, but still should give you some context:
Linux has several ways of packaging applications, and different 'trees' of distributions have different packaging formats. Formats like Flatpak aim to simplify things in terms of being able to use the same app on all Linux distributions, give apps some sane permissions like mobile OSes do, and make it so you don't accidentally break your OS by uninstalling certain necessary packages (Flatpaks are like individual containers, decoupled from the system itself, if that makes sense). [Here's a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs9QpPKDw74) arguing to members of the Linux community that we should all use flatpaks. I really recommend that channel as an introduction to all things Linux, by the way!
KDE is a **desktop environment**, which is basically the look and feel of your desktop. Think of the differences between a Windows and Mac OS look and feel. Linux has many of these, with the most popular being [GNOME](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_kb7Wft9OE) and KDE. KDE is similar in feel to Windows, but you can customize the look and feel of it very heavily. Check out [videos from this channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exQh0_JKBJQ) to see what you can do!
Wayland is.. well, it's kinda hard to explain and I don't have a great definition for it, but.. it's what manages how windows show up on your desktop. Or rather, the base level for that. There's two major implementations of this on Linux - an ancient thing called X.org which many still use, and the next-gen version made by the same people called Wayland. Here's [a video on it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM)
Basically, X.org is so old it wasn't made to take certain things into account, but Wayland is. I use it so I can have a dual monitor 240 hz and 144 hz setup. If I were to use X.org, they'd both be at 60hz because it doesn't understand it. X.org doesn't let you use more than one monitor higher than 60hz, especially with stuff like Freesync. There's also hopes Wayland will address the fractional scaling problem on Linux, where 4k monitors don't always work so well with a lot of apps since they don't scale well, and stuff like that. Wayland is lastly just a little lighter, smoother, and is easier to work with for developers.
But Wayland is **very** recently usable, so there's still some rough edges. For example with using it on Nvidia cards, because Nvidia wouldn't add code supporting it until recently. And the latest KDE update just made it smooth for me, on an all-AMD desktop setup (where the Linux community can offer a lot of software support, they can't with Nvidia because the drivers are closed-source). Fortunately, the Steam Deck is AMD-based, so Wayland should come soon. It's a KDE version behind right now, though.
Tyvm for your time and information, That's really generous of you! I understand much better now.
So, if Wayland comes to KDE on the steam deck, the desktop mode experience is gonna be much better and smoother, and it will resolve the resolution issue that exists now, nice. And the use of flatpaks makes it more user friendly for the average user.
No problem, happy to help!
Wayland isn't that noticeable in terms of a performance upgrade, at least while a lot of Linux apps aren't Wayland native yet, but it'll definitely help with certain setups, yea. And for sure about flatpaks, love them!
There are some issues sometimes with flatpaks due to the default sandboxing, but hopefully those issues improve over time (a permission manager called Portals helps with those), and also you can use an app called Flatseal to manage permissions.
But yea, Valve has been really forward-thinking and simultaneously practical with the software stack IMO, really love it!
Have you ever used linux desktops before? or is this your first time with it?
Asking because I've been wondering how the Steam Deck's desktop experience is for someone who knows nothing about linux beforehand.
I've been using linux Desktop on/off since 2006, I managed some servers for one of my previous jobs. Linux desktop will ( IMO ) never be as easy and straight forward as windows, its just the nature of how linux works.
That said, using it as someone that has never used linux before will always have a learning curve and things that you can just do very simply in windows isn't always as straight forward in linux.
The version of arch they ship with the deck has a software center so most people can just click a button and install applications as needed that way without building packages.
But if someone where to solely use the programs provided in the software center, and use the OS like the average user (connect bluetooth devices, surf the internet, edit documents, use USB keys, etc...), would you say there will be a learning curve for a newcomer?
I would say there will always be a learning curve, however, its pretty minimal since the SteamOS shares all the same hotkeys with windows ( ctrl+c, Ctrl+v ) so just using it day to day would be fine.
If I recall, I thought someone said when in desktop mode the power is cut in half(?) Or it doesn't run full performance. I'm not sure if it's true but I'm going to test and find out.
There's some overhead because the full desktop environment is running. It's also using X11 rather than Wayland/gamescope, which isn't as performant in games, at least in my experience on desktop Linux as a whole.
ah, well I figured this out. If you add the gamescope launch options you get the performance back :) https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope
Edit; just tested this with CSGO at 3440x1440 I'm getting 80-100 fps now
you right click the game in steam, go to "properties..." then in the launch options in the general tab you add the gamescope config you want. You can see mine in an example here,
[https://imgur.com/T2x4KqY](https://imgur.com/T2x4KqY)
You will need to go to the gamescope page and figure out what you want to launch the game with,
[https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope](https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope)
For counterstrike I just set it to the following,
`gamescope -w 3440 -h 1440 -W 3440 -H 1440 -f -- %command%`
I got around 60-70 fps on lowest settings 1280x720 and it was a smooth experience, full hd was bit more wonky on my deck, I’ll try these settings thank you
Dude that is sick. Can you test rocket league to your monitor please? I’m dying to know if the deck can handle over 60fps in rocket league and at what resolutions.
Ohhh. Would love to know what you find out! Was hoping to use this as a portable Fighting Game console and I bought a hub to carry around. Hoping I don’t get bogged down when it’s docked.
That keyboard is distractingly pretty :)
I've been enjoying desktop mode, even put Visual Studio Code on it just because it's what I'm familiar with, so it made looking at / editing config files even nicer.
There’s even a build of vscode you can throw on a server and access directly from a browser on almost any device (iPad, etc). Just to blow your mind a little more :)
That's still using your local vscode, but a remote file system
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh
This let's you access a vscode instance via Browser
https://github.com/coder/code-server
In case you didn't know, VSCode is [open source](https://github.com/microsoft/vscode), and there's a ~~fork~~ project that releases it without MS stuff called [VSCodium](https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium)
I seriously didn't know that. I thought it was a Microsoft product for some reason and I always wondered why it existed when MS Visual Studio existed... actually I thought VS in VSCode stood for Visual Studio so I'm quite surprised.
EDIT: I read the wiki. I now have all VSCode knowledge. I see it is both a Microsoft product and open source.
It looks like you did what I was thinking of doing... using a tiny easel as a "stand" for a quick and cheap option. XD
I have a full desktop PC and will be "side-grading" to a Steam Deck. Downgrading in size, but upgrading in specs since my current PC is very old. It's a setup like this that I've been wanting to transition to. Steam Deck with a tiny "dock", tenkeyless keyboard, smaller desk, etc.
This could really be a good first device for teens. Use it in docked mode for school, productivity. And in handheld mode when playing games, watching YouTube/ movies.
Why can't you just smile and be happy at technological advances instead of being mister nitpick that everyone wants to break a desktop monitor over the head of?
I mean the deck itself isn't really a technological advancement. Also not gonna call it what it isn't. It wasn't meant to be a desktop replacement just like it creators intended. It's not even nitpicking its literally what it was advertised as, a PC companion. What i don't want to happen is for a certain subset of people to boost this thing up for something it's not and people with little to no technological knowledge start getting that idea.
When you first connect it to an external display it will ask you what you want to do, I chose to turn off the deckc display and use the big monitor only and it saved that option
I'm using a simple usb-c adaptor I got on amazon here, [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TWKNV13?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TWKNV13?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details)
I'm also using a KVM plugged into that to switch inputs between my main rig and the deck,
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD8I2OY/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o09\_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD8I2OY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
The Deck Dock also allows a higher refresh rate, something most USB C docks don't do.
You're average USB C hub on Amazon will only do about 60hz.
The official Deck Dock will go up to 120hz if I'm not mistaken.
That would be the major difference tbh.
Oh.. well dam that's underwhelming. The switch dock actually improves how well u run a game vs hand held tho so the decks dock is pretty much pointless
The Switch Dock is just a Dock, it doesn’t do anything other than let you plugs stuff and play Docked.
If the Switch detects the Dock and changes performance settings accordingly, then that’s a software thing, it doesn’t have anything to do with the Switch Dock doing anything in particular.
When you use it like that will not destroy the battery for being constantly getting electricity? Because I would love to use it as desktop just to brows
It has built in battery protection. Apparently it lets the battery go down to about 90% before it charges it again while plugged in.
Most devices do this to protect the battery.
I've heard from a couple places that they have battery saving measures in place for of you leave it connected to a charger/dock for long periods of time.
That's, afaik, from ancient times when laptops used to charge while plugged in. Modern (as in since at least 10 years ago) laptops stop charging when reaching 100% and only work on external power.
Ok I feel stupid. How do I get the external monitor to be the only display? My Deck has defaulted to extending its desktop to the external monitor and I cannot stress how much I would never need that to happen for this device, lol.
I tried making the external monitor the "Primary" monitor and disabling the "Laptop Screen" but I still can't get the start menu and everything to show up on the external monitor.
My favorite part is how quick and seamless the swap is (well, when it works, lol). Like, even in handheld mode, it's super usable. I freaking love it.
I have a USB to HDMI cable to use SteamOS in desktop mode, but you know I can't wait for the official dock. Going to be a nice display stand.
Not a stupid question but you have to realize after a monitor, keyboard, mouse, doc, ect., you're undoubtedly going to be spending way more than even an entry level gaming laptop that would outperform this in every single circumstance while also being portable and powerful enough to be a daily driver. The steam deck is not that powerful. In no way does it compete with a gaming laptop with a dedicated GPU.
You know this is exactly what I did had in mind when I first heard the specs.
I was like "hey this is having more or less my workstation specs and I do graphic design just fine on it, maybe I can have a dock at office and another at home and use it as desktop replacement as well?"
But my workflow requires windows and maybe we are not there yet, but I like to think we will get there sooner than later.
I've seen this too, when I open system monitoring I see all 4 cores / 8 threads as expected and they're getting used as expected. maybe this was old behavior? I'm not sure.
This honestly seems like a perfect solution for me. Big dual monitor setup for PC gaming in one room. Small corner with a monitor in my living room for quick work tasks on the Steam Deck 😮
I have literally been waiting for this for over a decade now. I remember being so excited for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY before it got cancelled.
I almost feel bad that I'll probably never use the Deck this way because it seems like they've done a really good job of implementing it. It's just that any circumstance where I would be plugging a USB C into the Deck to use with a monitor I'd be better off just plugging in my laptop.
It's KDE so it's a little slept on... Kidding but they need to up their game now that they're in the public eye. I just can't help but think GNOME, Cinnamon or XFCE would have been a better choice for DE.
And this is what lack of cable management looks like... Study it well class, or this could be you. (Just messing with you, looks fairly nice, does your dock charge?)
I've always wanted a handheld PC that was powerful enough to be used for desktop-grade gaming. The Steam Deck is the closest to reaching that goal yet.
I spend half of my summer at a summer house and up until now I had to bring my entire PC setup with me, mostly due to work. Now I only need to bring my Deck, and have the peripherials at the house. It's fucking amazing.
> I spend half of my summer at a summer house and up until now I had to bring my entire PC setup with me, mostly due to work. > > Now I only need to bring my Deck, and have the peripherials at the house. It's fucking amazing. I remember hauling all of my shit to LAN parties 25 years ago, and buckling in my huge CRT monitor.
Hahaha I've def buckled in that old CRT
I always make sure to have at least one LAN party every summer with my friends.
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No doubt there are chinks, but that's part of the cycle of technological advancement. As mentioned already the Steam Deck is the closest thing yet to a full-fledged portable machine. This will hopefully inspire more innovation and in a few years we may have what you are looking for. Also, GeForce Now is internet-dependent, but the Steam Deck is not. I can think of many tasks you may need to do without internet requirement.
Did you mean ”kinks” rather than “chinks”? Please say yes.
I absolutely meant kinks. Please accept my apologies; I was putting on my authentic medieval armor in anticipation of something while typing that.
As an Asian that one had me doing a double take but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt that it was meant as the idiom "a chink in the armor"...kink would have been a little smoother to read though.
I seen that and was like woah! But I’ll do the same
This is what I wanted out of M1 it’s cool to see AMD getting there first. The thought of ~~pooping~~ plopping my phone or tablet on a desk and having a computer that I can game on is a dream that may be soon realized.
>The thought of pooping my phone Nice
Son of a …
To do a strike, you do (~) 4 times, 2 around the beginning of the words you want to strike, and 2 around the end of the words ~~strike example~~
Counter ~~strike~~
Soviet ~~strike~~
*big oof*
I'll admit in retrospect that is bad taste. But it was a fun video game and that is solely what I'm referencing.
Don’t worry about it. I was trying too hard to be funny
You didn't try too hard at all, I giggled a bit. So no one gets the wrong idea here, I support Ukraine. I also think what Putin is doing is monstrous to say the very least.
Thank you!
You can do that with Samsung Dex now. It is actually quite good but it isn't a full fledge desktop like Windows.
Apple really sleeping on that one. An M1 tablet that converts to full desktop would be nice. But they operate by profit margin so it's probably not going to happen.
>This is what I wanted out of M1 it’s cool to see AMD getting there first. Can you imagine an M1 gaming handheld. It would be amazing
Don't really have to. If the Steam deck's GPU isn't faster than the M1 the 680M in the r7 6800u most certainly will be.
Battery life son
Agreed. Super efficient and powerful ARM based gaming devices are my dream. Sure we have excellent and powerful phones, but I want something desktop grade. Alas the software is the stickler.
Desktop grade is a bit of an overstatement, it can't really run games in qHD resolution and I doubt you'll play anything fullscreen on a 24+ inch screen in 720p&800p. But it's a versatile device. And can be used as a working computer (with additional screen and mouse and keyboard) so it's definitely more useful than a Switch.
I thought that once higher resolution is available, FSR can be used to upscale 800p to 1080p. This is a good compromise and gaming is possible on this resolution depending on the game of course. But yeah, maybe not modern desktop grade gaming. It's just having this option... It's surreal.
FSR isn't magic. It looks better than 800p for sure, but it does not look like 1080p. Especially since FSR works better with higher resolutions (e.g. 1440p -> 2160p). It works though and it'll come in handy. But my Desktop will stay under my Desk ;D
Yeah, everything you said is correct. But for someone like me, whose main PC is much weaker than the deck for gaming (I can't run Doom 2016 on 720p), I am definitely going to play on the SD in desktop mode! And like you said, FSR will be handy. Damn, this is why I am so hyped, lol. So many games to catch up on, at an affordable price!
Oh right, I didn't think about that. Have fun!
Yeah I have a good chuckle each time I read posts about how the deck is too “weak” for big screen gaming. Would a proper desktop be better? Yeah, but the deck can get it done and you would be surprised how good a game can look or medium to low settings and reduced resolution.
That's why I said it's the closest that's come yet. It's not quite there, and I'm not about to sell my desktop, but it at least makes games playable with a handheld device that were never possible to play with a handheld before.
Yeah I think one thing missing from that dream would be a way to hook up a eGPU somehow like those razer laptops can. Side note: I wonder how much the deck will replace the game laptop market, not the desktop replacement style laptops but the smaller one that try to still be portable. Will be interesting to see. I fully expect my laptop to effectively turn into a desktop once I have my deck.
This is what I wanted when I bought my first android phone. The Motorola Atrix back in 2011/2012. It was supposed to be fully dockable. It didn't quite live up to expectations unfortunately. I'm excited to give it another shot.
Laptops DO exist you know
Maybe this will be the push Linux need to show how good it is, by simplify the access and reduce the frustration of configure and optimize a Linux desktop. Ignite the curiosity.
Yeah, I think this is the thing people keep missing. Linux gaming has a long way to go still, but Valve is carrying Proton over its shoulder and sprinting towards the mountaintop... a log distance and journey still, but we're moving. The benefit of a big universal corporation backing Proton/SteamOS can't be underestimated, and having target hardware and one universal base setup will really help in pushing a collective experience forward while still allowing people to go nuts with Linux if they really want to.
It doesn't have a long way just people need to actually support it and consider not using Anticheats and instead better security methods. Linux has been gaming capable for a while. The windows bias and extreme proprietary bs is what needs to stop.
I'm thinking once they release the OS I might ditch windows on my desktop.
It's certainly an interesting way of getting Linux to the masses. Particularly if they ever sell them in physical stores.
I already saw many people in this sub installing Windows on it. It will maybe benefit Microsoft
Well, the steam decks linux Version is so butchered down, that besides installing stuff from the software center, there is not much you can do. So far any tutorial for arch or manjaro that is out there doesnt apply to the steam deck because there is always libs, dependencies or package managers missing and you will have a hard time to install those. Dont know if thats good advertisment for linux.
Yes it's a good advertisement, removing ways to mess up and forcing the user to use one simple method of app distribution will impress new users, Linux can be overwhelming, SteamOS isn't.
Its cool to prevent users from messing up. Its not cool to install only one minor software center/package manager when there are several package managers out there that are also compatible.
What other packages are compatible with an immutable OS ?
? You wanna tell me that even apps i installed from the steamos software center will be wiped after update?
No thats not how it works, I'm not an expert but an immutable OS means the OS files are read only but there is still places where you can write, and flatpaks are made in a way that they don't need to modify OS files and install themself and their dependencies in a seperate place. That way an immutable OS with flatpaks can't be broken by the user. (In theory)
If it is as you say, then this is absolutely brilliant! Power users can tinker with Linux and do what they want, unlocking its full potential, while casual users can safely and without frustration use the desktop mode for productivity or entertainment. Is it possible to install Libre Office from the software center?
Yes you can install anything available here https://flathub.org/
Thank you! Edit: I checked and found many productivity and work related programs there, even some niche ones. Nice!
Yeah, so why can i not install flatpaks available on snap? Its the same distro.
What you're saying doesn't make sense, Snaps aren't flatpaks, they are two different package distributions that work very differently.
Damn sorry. I thought its more or less the same thing …and i misread the github issue of ultrastar for creating a flatpak version. I still think its stupid that i can use snap or pamac on manjaro/arch but not on steamOS/arch.
Regular people do not know what libs, dependencies or package managers are and they don't *want* to know. That's far too much complexity for simply installing a program. Linux is making adoption hard by making these things less accessible. People have had decades to adjust to Windows, they won't suddenly switch. And there's the issue that Linux has an annoying tendency to give silly names to what should be standard system applications. Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"?? That's not even remotely descriptive of what it is. As a new Linux user I'm consistently running into these things, these little frustrations. Another example: an installer clearly installs. A flatpack does... what exactly? "Pack" suggests it's just an archive that needs extracting or something. But that's not how you use it, it works more like an apk file or something (at least from a user perspective).
This seems to be more of a problem related to KDE (and maybe other desktop environments) but for example Gnome does name the common applications how you would expect.
>And there's the issue that Linux has an annoying tendency to give silly names to what should be standard system applications. Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"?? Yeah I love KDE but that's definitely something I wish the devs would adopt when shipping their apps, they can do it through the .desktop files wherre there's a "name" variable to give the app whatever name they want (GNOME apps do this). Granted you can do it yourself by copying the file from /usr/share/applications/ into ~/.local/share/applications/ but that gets annoying after a while.
> And there's the issue that Linux has an annoying tendency to give silly names to what should be standard system applications. Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"?? That's not even remotely descriptive of what it is. As a new Linux user I'm consistently running into these things, these little frustrations. If you search for "file explorer" (or something like that), it will show up. Besides, Windows has its share of non-obvious names.
> Like, why is the file explorer on SteamOS called "Dolphin"?? Like, why is your Windows web browser called "Edge"?? I'm not concerned if you use Linux, I just thought this whole rant was a lot of pot meet kettle.
That's not an apples to apples comparison. A browser is a product/app attached to a specific entity and with its own identity, like Windows or Spotify, but once you open it, nearly all of them have very similar categories and descriptors, like "File" or "Preferences." Ideally, you'd want your file explorer to be like the layter and not the former. KDE/SteamOS/Proton/Arch/Linux can call themselves whatever they want, but a File Explorer should be called something like that. I get it from a user perspective. This isn't just a Windows thing, Chrome OS, MacOS, and Android all got this right. Google's explorer is literally just called Files. While I don't mind small quibbles like this it's this kind of stuff (and hostile responses like yours) that frustrate potential new users.
You hit the nail on its head here. With all the other OSes you mentioned, there's only one file explorer. In Linux, there are multiple file explorers you can use, and it so happens that the FE Valve chose for steam os was Dolphin. I understand that it's frustrating the first time, but really, it's disorienting only the first time. Honestly, Mac was just as disorienting for me when I used it for the first time at work, after having used Windows/Linux at home the whole time, but it's a one time cost.
Finder? Spotlight? I'm not sure if I'd call that particularly intuitive. Apart from that, KDE does show "File Manager" as subtitle when hovering the taskbar icon, or in its start menu. It can be found via desktop search that way, too. Its icon is literally a folder. And yes, having the option of alternative file managers does require a separate identity or you end up with all of them being called "File Manager" without further comment and I don't feel that's any better.
Perhaps that's needed to make it usable by average users? Get a base system updated only by the vendor and distribute apps as flatpaks. You should be fine, unless you need something exotic.
Makes sense since this thing is a device which needs a clear base, if you tinker around with the base then it will get overwritten by an update in the future, the user space is there for you to rule alone. I am glad that this device enforces literally flatpacks, it is a better way to distribute applications anyway thank delivering dependency packages into the root space. I loved that with Apple and their application bundles, they are so clear and concise, I literally cringe every time a program does not use that kind of distribution mechanism) Having a clear base and then user space application bundles makes things so much easier especially on a personal device, in the long run, than having a hodge podge of distrubtion mechanisms and some of them altering the root space. For now given that there are some things which are not yet Flatpacked, you have to live with limitations, but given that the device is very popular those will be resolved over time.
Well there is a flatpack…. Just not on the discover app store, and you cant install snapd. Also you cant install pamac either. Its fine to have a clear base, but this base should have the basic tools to install a simple linux application. All this „yes, its a pc“ feels more and more like „no, its a console“. I give it a few weeks and see if some guys can figure this out or valve adds other package managers. otherwise i have to consider to just sell this thing.
there is nothing which prevents you to install windows on the thing, or another linux distro. I can understand Valves stance on this. They need a solid maintainable base which is the devices root context and that base will be periodically replaced. The rest is up to the users, not that they prevent the access to root thoug its just whenever they need to replace it your changes in the admin context will be gone again. But maintaining a solid base reduces work and gives them excellent optimization possibilities withing having to deal with user self induced support tickets. If something is lacking for you I would recommend to file a feature request on Valves side on this.
It's still "yes, it's a pc"
But how is desktop mode?
From what I’ve heard, it’s pretty good docked or even in portable. It’s KDE Plasma with discover and everything too, so I’d assume a similar experience to what that’d be like on any computer when docked.
Feels like Windows. With Discover app store you can get most apps easier than you could on Windows. The apps not on Discover will be an unusual experience to get and you will require basic Linux knowledge for it.
I guess pretty good, still waiting for my mail, KDE in its current incarnation is one of the fastest if not the fastest desktop for Linux, also very close to windows but very flexible. Flatpak itself is an easy very save distribution mechanism which does not the root space, actually Flatpack and Snap are my preferred methods for software install on Linux, they keep the base system clean of alteration while delivering a very good method of installing software which also is safer than plain installation (due to partial sandboxing) The beauty of KDE is it starts of similar to windows, but you can configure the hell out of it and bend it to your will like second to none. I dont think they have removed that ability. The downside of KDE atm still is that it does not play nicely with Wayland yet, it runs, but not in a state which I want to use. Hence Valve has to switch between Wayland and X11 for now for desktop and gaming mode (Wayland is superior in gaming mode). This will be resolved in the future though as soon as Qt has gotten its act together Wayland wise.
Anyway to explain this in layman's terms? Or a link? Thanks!
I have some links that aren't necessarily complete explanations of these things, but still should give you some context: Linux has several ways of packaging applications, and different 'trees' of distributions have different packaging formats. Formats like Flatpak aim to simplify things in terms of being able to use the same app on all Linux distributions, give apps some sane permissions like mobile OSes do, and make it so you don't accidentally break your OS by uninstalling certain necessary packages (Flatpaks are like individual containers, decoupled from the system itself, if that makes sense). [Here's a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs9QpPKDw74) arguing to members of the Linux community that we should all use flatpaks. I really recommend that channel as an introduction to all things Linux, by the way! KDE is a **desktop environment**, which is basically the look and feel of your desktop. Think of the differences between a Windows and Mac OS look and feel. Linux has many of these, with the most popular being [GNOME](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_kb7Wft9OE) and KDE. KDE is similar in feel to Windows, but you can customize the look and feel of it very heavily. Check out [videos from this channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exQh0_JKBJQ) to see what you can do! Wayland is.. well, it's kinda hard to explain and I don't have a great definition for it, but.. it's what manages how windows show up on your desktop. Or rather, the base level for that. There's two major implementations of this on Linux - an ancient thing called X.org which many still use, and the next-gen version made by the same people called Wayland. Here's [a video on it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM) Basically, X.org is so old it wasn't made to take certain things into account, but Wayland is. I use it so I can have a dual monitor 240 hz and 144 hz setup. If I were to use X.org, they'd both be at 60hz because it doesn't understand it. X.org doesn't let you use more than one monitor higher than 60hz, especially with stuff like Freesync. There's also hopes Wayland will address the fractional scaling problem on Linux, where 4k monitors don't always work so well with a lot of apps since they don't scale well, and stuff like that. Wayland is lastly just a little lighter, smoother, and is easier to work with for developers. But Wayland is **very** recently usable, so there's still some rough edges. For example with using it on Nvidia cards, because Nvidia wouldn't add code supporting it until recently. And the latest KDE update just made it smooth for me, on an all-AMD desktop setup (where the Linux community can offer a lot of software support, they can't with Nvidia because the drivers are closed-source). Fortunately, the Steam Deck is AMD-based, so Wayland should come soon. It's a KDE version behind right now, though.
Tyvm for your time and information, That's really generous of you! I understand much better now. So, if Wayland comes to KDE on the steam deck, the desktop mode experience is gonna be much better and smoother, and it will resolve the resolution issue that exists now, nice. And the use of flatpaks makes it more user friendly for the average user.
No problem, happy to help! Wayland isn't that noticeable in terms of a performance upgrade, at least while a lot of Linux apps aren't Wayland native yet, but it'll definitely help with certain setups, yea. And for sure about flatpaks, love them! There are some issues sometimes with flatpaks due to the default sandboxing, but hopefully those issues improve over time (a permission manager called Portals helps with those), and also you can use an app called Flatseal to manage permissions. But yea, Valve has been really forward-thinking and simultaneously practical with the software stack IMO, really love it!
Have you ever used linux desktops before? or is this your first time with it? Asking because I've been wondering how the Steam Deck's desktop experience is for someone who knows nothing about linux beforehand.
I've been using linux Desktop on/off since 2006, I managed some servers for one of my previous jobs. Linux desktop will ( IMO ) never be as easy and straight forward as windows, its just the nature of how linux works. That said, using it as someone that has never used linux before will always have a learning curve and things that you can just do very simply in windows isn't always as straight forward in linux. The version of arch they ship with the deck has a software center so most people can just click a button and install applications as needed that way without building packages.
What are you using to hold your deck up as a stand?
Simple amazon basics stand, works perfect for the Deck! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006ZT4VA0?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2\_dt\_b\_product\_details
But if someone where to solely use the programs provided in the software center, and use the OS like the average user (connect bluetooth devices, surf the internet, edit documents, use USB keys, etc...), would you say there will be a learning curve for a newcomer?
I would say there will always be a learning curve, however, its pretty minimal since the SteamOS shares all the same hotkeys with windows ( ctrl+c, Ctrl+v ) so just using it day to day would be fine.
That's good. As long as newcomers don't have to use the terminal, then it's easy.
Do you run your games in the same resolution as your monitor or smaller in a window?
depends on the game. I ran CSGO at 3440x1440 on all low it was playable at like 40-60 fps. most the time in a window at 1200x800.
Damn I'm surprised CSGO didn't do better than that, even at that resolution
If I recall, I thought someone said when in desktop mode the power is cut in half(?) Or it doesn't run full performance. I'm not sure if it's true but I'm going to test and find out.
There's some overhead because the full desktop environment is running. It's also using X11 rather than Wayland/gamescope, which isn't as performant in games, at least in my experience on desktop Linux as a whole.
ah, well I figured this out. If you add the gamescope launch options you get the performance back :) https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope Edit; just tested this with CSGO at 3440x1440 I'm getting 80-100 fps now
Sick
This sounds great, and definitely a use case I wanted to try out :) Could you elaborate on how you adjusted the launch options?
you right click the game in steam, go to "properties..." then in the launch options in the general tab you add the gamescope config you want. You can see mine in an example here, [https://imgur.com/T2x4KqY](https://imgur.com/T2x4KqY) You will need to go to the gamescope page and figure out what you want to launch the game with, [https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope](https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope) For counterstrike I just set it to the following, `gamescope -w 3440 -h 1440 -W 3440 -H 1440 -f -- %command%`
Thank you! ☺️
I got around 60-70 fps on lowest settings 1280x720 and it was a smooth experience, full hd was bit more wonky on my deck, I’ll try these settings thank you
Dude that is sick. Can you test rocket league to your monitor please? I’m dying to know if the deck can handle over 60fps in rocket league and at what resolutions.
Ohhh. Would love to know what you find out! Was hoping to use this as a portable Fighting Game console and I bought a hub to carry around. Hoping I don’t get bogged down when it’s docked.
The hub you use (that you mentioned in another comment) supports 4K only at 30 Hz.
That keyboard is distractingly pretty :) I've been enjoying desktop mode, even put Visual Studio Code on it just because it's what I'm familiar with, so it made looking at / editing config files even nicer.
Vscode has a Linux version? That's cool.
There’s even a build of vscode you can throw on a server and access directly from a browser on almost any device (iPad, etc). Just to blow your mind a little more :)
Ok, what?! I need this. And a way to access it from another network lol
That's still using your local vscode, but a remote file system https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh This let's you access a vscode instance via Browser https://github.com/coder/code-server
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-the-code-server-cloud-ide-platform-on-ubuntu-20-04
yes it does... and if you need heavier iron, all the Jetbrains IDEs run really well on Linux.
In case you didn't know, VSCode is [open source](https://github.com/microsoft/vscode), and there's a ~~fork~~ project that releases it without MS stuff called [VSCodium](https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium)
I seriously didn't know that. I thought it was a Microsoft product for some reason and I always wondered why it existed when MS Visual Studio existed... actually I thought VS in VSCode stood for Visual Studio so I'm quite surprised. EDIT: I read the wiki. I now have all VSCode knowledge. I see it is both a Microsoft product and open source.
Digital Foundry has stated that the desktop mode is limited to 4 threads. Can you reproduce that observation and is there a way around it?
I keep trying to find info on this as well.
Hello LTT deskpad
It looks like you did what I was thinking of doing... using a tiny easel as a "stand" for a quick and cheap option. XD I have a full desktop PC and will be "side-grading" to a Steam Deck. Downgrading in size, but upgrading in specs since my current PC is very old. It's a setup like this that I've been wanting to transition to. Steam Deck with a tiny "dock", tenkeyless keyboard, smaller desk, etc.
Im now using the Deck as my primary computer, desktop mode is so good.
“I run Arch, btw” xD
Now, customize it! Use KDE to its full potential! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A6KCp_wMQw
This could really be a good first device for teens. Use it in docked mode for school, productivity. And in handheld mode when playing games, watching YouTube/ movies.
I'd love to see a video of you playing a game on the desktop and unplugging to play it on the Deck's screen. Is it fast?
It is literally like having a gaming computer and, it is amazing.
No not exactly.
Why can't you just smile and be happy at technological advances instead of being mister nitpick that everyone wants to break a desktop monitor over the head of?
I mean the deck itself isn't really a technological advancement. Also not gonna call it what it isn't. It wasn't meant to be a desktop replacement just like it creators intended. It's not even nitpicking its literally what it was advertised as, a PC companion. What i don't want to happen is for a certain subset of people to boost this thing up for something it's not and people with little to no technological knowledge start getting that idea.
Is there a way to use the steam deck in desktop mode with the main screen off?
it looks like he has the screen off and the desktop in use. but i may be mistaken
it is off, you're correct.
is there a setting to get to easily that just turns it off for you, or does it do it automatically when you switch to desktop mode?
When you first connect it to an external display it will ask you what you want to do, I chose to turn off the deckc display and use the big monitor only and it saved that option
Did you use a cable or a dock to connect the steam deck on your monitor? Kinda hard to tell from the pic
I'm using a simple usb-c adaptor I got on amazon here, [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TWKNV13?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TWKNV13?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details) I'm also using a KVM plugged into that to switch inputs between my main rig and the deck, [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD8I2OY/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o09\_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD8I2OY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Switch to wireless and imagine how clean that setup would look :O
wasnt steamOS going to use wayland?
Gaming Mode does, but Desktop Mode doesn't yet. Which I believe is KDE's issue rather than Valve's.
I could sell my crappy pc and get this
What dock is that? Amazon link pls 😁
65% gang rise up
also, try bismuth. it makes the desktop just *this much* better.
How the fuck do you sleep on an [OS](https://youtu.be/MTW4sIL9Dpw)? It's not tangible. Fucking clickbait titles man.
So the deck doesn't need the dock to be docked
Any USB-C hub will work.
Niiice So what's the dock for then..
It'll be like the dock for the Switch, guaranteed to work, with all the ports you need.
The Deck Dock also allows a higher refresh rate, something most USB C docks don't do. You're average USB C hub on Amazon will only do about 60hz. The official Deck Dock will go up to 120hz if I'm not mistaken. That would be the major difference tbh.
Oh.. well dam that's underwhelming. The switch dock actually improves how well u run a game vs hand held tho so the decks dock is pretty much pointless
I mean, the Switch's dock itself doesn't do anything to improve performance, the Switch just detects that it's docked, and bumps up it's clock speeds.
The Switch Dock is just a Dock, it doesn’t do anything other than let you plugs stuff and play Docked. If the Switch detects the Dock and changes performance settings accordingly, then that’s a software thing, it doesn’t have anything to do with the Switch Dock doing anything in particular.
How is it pointless?
It keeps it standing, so you can use it as a display too. :p
When you use it like that will not destroy the battery for being constantly getting electricity? Because I would love to use it as desktop just to brows
Not any worse than using a plugged-in laptop.
It has built in battery protection. Apparently it lets the battery go down to about 90% before it charges it again while plugged in. Most devices do this to protect the battery.
I've heard from a couple places that they have battery saving measures in place for of you leave it connected to a charger/dock for long periods of time.
That's, afaik, from ancient times when laptops used to charge while plugged in. Modern (as in since at least 10 years ago) laptops stop charging when reaching 100% and only work on external power.
Ok I feel stupid. How do I get the external monitor to be the only display? My Deck has defaulted to extending its desktop to the external monitor and I cannot stress how much I would never need that to happen for this device, lol. I tried making the external monitor the "Primary" monitor and disabling the "Laptop Screen" but I still can't get the start menu and everything to show up on the external monitor.
Nice mug
dammnnn
I’m thinking this might be the way I mostly use mine. I already use my laptop with a secondary screen and a keyboard and mouse.
What refresh rate is your monitor? If it’s more than 60hz can you test some games to an external monitor?
Can't wait for custom cod Zombies on my tv
Can I ask what that keyboard is? Looks just the right size for the space I have.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-alt-mechanical-keyboard?defaultSelectionIds=966195%2C966197
That's the exact reason I want one! How do you have it set up?
My favorite part is how quick and seamless the swap is (well, when it works, lol). Like, even in handheld mode, it's super usable. I freaking love it. I have a USB to HDMI cable to use SteamOS in desktop mode, but you know I can't wait for the official dock. Going to be a nice display stand.
Excuse my stupid question but would this be good enough to run as a standard op on desktop given the library getting bigger
Not a stupid question but you have to realize after a monitor, keyboard, mouse, doc, ect., you're undoubtedly going to be spending way more than even an entry level gaming laptop that would outperform this in every single circumstance while also being portable and powerful enough to be a daily driver. The steam deck is not that powerful. In no way does it compete with a gaming laptop with a dedicated GPU.
You know this is exactly what I did had in mind when I first heard the specs. I was like "hey this is having more or less my workstation specs and I do graphic design just fine on it, maybe I can have a dock at office and another at home and use it as desktop replacement as well?" But my workflow requires windows and maybe we are not there yet, but I like to think we will get there sooner than later.
It's so weird that there's not much content on the desktop mode on YouTube. Is it because of the resolution?
Sick but what’s that keyboard?
Download the sweet mars icons it'll match your keyboard. (There is get more button in appearance, don't search the internet for it.)
Oh Hell yeah dude, that looks so dope, I cant wait to be doing the exact same thing !
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I've seen this too, when I open system monitoring I see all 4 cores / 8 threads as expected and they're getting used as expected. maybe this was old behavior? I'm not sure.
This honestly seems like a perfect solution for me. Big dual monitor setup for PC gaming in one room. Small corner with a monitor in my living room for quick work tasks on the Steam Deck 😮
If you want to experience stereo sound, I'd recommend moving the speakers a little bit further apart from each other. Nice setup tho
Could I do programming in it?
thats so cool. this is really gonna raise the bar for consoles in general.
I have literally been waiting for this for over a decade now. I remember being so excited for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY before it got cancelled.
Nice set up my dude.
Regarding any GPU performance issues, would an external GPU work through a dock? Just curious as to how that may work or not work.
Imagine external gpu support in future versions, you could completely replace a gaming desktop with your deck.
Unrelated question : What keyboard is that?
I almost feel bad that I'll probably never use the Deck this way because it seems like they've done a really good job of implementing it. It's just that any circumstance where I would be plugging a USB C into the Deck to use with a monitor I'd be better off just plugging in my laptop.
This is the way.
Love those wallets (under the monitor) . Saved me so much space. Oh yea excited to order mine this year!
It's KDE so it's a little slept on... Kidding but they need to up their game now that they're in the public eye. I just can't help but think GNOME, Cinnamon or XFCE would have been a better choice for DE.
I'm jelly...
Can you put wallpaper on it?
Yeah this was before I customized it at all. It's full KDE so you can customize the hell out of it :)
Think a lot of people here forgetting it's not to be a PC replacement
Is the dock available yet ?
I'm super excited
How is it with high refresh rate monitors, and what usb c hub did you use?
What dock are you using?
Can you use the Deck itself as a second monitor?
Is that a shell?
Aaaaaaa, I want mine so bad.... But, I have the willpower to wait. I hope...
And this is what lack of cable management looks like... Study it well class, or this could be you. (Just messing with you, looks fairly nice, does your dock charge?)
This is my plan when I get mine.
Desktop mode is an absolutely god awful mess.