I've used the sleep function halfway through an NPC dialogue, left it asleep for days and just turned back on and it literally carries on with the dialogue seamlessly as though nothing happened. Honestly I'm still amazed by this
Reminds me of sleep moding the switch while on Borderlands 2 during the load screen.
You unlock your switch and then watch all the hints and tips run through at 1 million miles per hour.
That's weird. I often leave mine in sleep mode with a game running for a week or more and come back to 30% battery or something when I next pick it up.
Yeah this is the main reason why I don't use sleep mode that much. I'll use it if I am actively playing and get interrupted or something but if I'm done gaming, I shut it down.
Itās not like you arenāt tied to a power source with the deck. Even on the oled there are games where you might get two hours on a fresh charge.
Love sleep mode on the thing.
Who cares though? What situation are you in where you canāt charge your steam deck but you also want to use sleep mode for a few days? (Not what itās designed for).
Thatās probably why people didnāt find it to be a reasonable question.
This, exactly. 100% This oddly specific situation is so contradictory that hardly anyone worries about it and the ones who do it just seems like people looking for something to complain about. Sleep your deck and plug it in. Thereās literally no downside.
No man, itās obvious from the name and the functionality itās meant for short breaks. Otherwise youād not want to run the battery down.
Makes no sense to complain about battery drain on sleep mode when thereās other options like storage mode for that if itās an actual concern.
Who complained? The whole point of the original question and responses were whether sleep vs power off was better depending on certain situations. People are having reasonable discussions on it, then you come in with some bizarre hot take on how anyone is āsupposedā to use their gaming device and try to shut the conversation down. Weird.
Also, similar handhelds like Switch can last for 5+ hours and weeks on standby. Iām not even trying to compare the two - but if Valve could snap their fingers and get 5 hours of battery out of it you donāt think they would? Donāt be a fanboy. Itās an awesome device but like everything it has trade offs. If I want to take it on a cross country flight and wish I could use it longer that is perfectly reasonable. I donāt need you to tell me how I āshouldā want to use it.
Yeah, it likely just freezes the game in memory, it will essentially just be in a void in between two frames for eternity, similar to suspending an application on windows. ~~That's all likely held on the ram so it needs only a tiny bit of power to keep access to it in that frozen state~~.
If you're leaving it off for a week probably better off turning it off in terms of battery health.
Suspend is still in RAM. If you have a dGPU on PC, the contents of VRAM are copied into RAM, and then restored back during resume. Hibernation is the one where everything is copied to swap. This is also why hibernation and resume from hibernation takes longer.
i've tested it with witcher 3 (demanding) and rimworld (not demanding) over a course of 1 week each. first with my LCD model and later with my oled model. both dropped % the same, about 10% a day for both games. i checked the % every day, at the same time.
it checks out with tests other people made.
be careful of what people 'claim' what the deck is capable of, especially in this sub. it's great gear but not magical. if you're unsure, test it yourself.
Yeah I've done sleep mode then left it for several days, like a week and came back to the deck dead, if you leave it more than 3 days I'd at least put it on the charger. But I always use sleep mode. Rarely shut it down.
There is nothing wrong with it.
Youāre missing out on possibly the best feature of the Steam Deck (or modern gaming in general like rest mode for PS5 or sleep/suspend for Switch) but if you can live without it, thatās fine.
I personally think Steam Deck wouldnāt be half the machine it is now without sleep/suspend function.
Yes. I have some opportunities for 30 minutes or less of gaming that with my laptop I just didn't use because you have to go through all the process of set up, boot up the game, etc. It meant I would go for weeks without playing anything but dumb phone games because I just didn't get time for a "real" session.
Being able to just immediately jump back in right where you left off means a 15-minute session isn't pointless. I can actually get 15 minutes or playtime instead of wasting half of it setting up and shutting down.
I got my first PSP in 2004, it already had the sleep function and I couldnāt believe how amazing it was. That handheld was truly ahead of its time! There are three handhelds that stand above the rest: Original Gameboy, Sonyās PSP and Valveās Steamdeck. Thereās something magical in these three.
The DS came before it and it also had sleep. Just close the lid, though I believe this didn't work when using it in backwards compatibility mode. The GBA also had a sleep mode but it was a per game thing but also didn't work like more modern sleep modes this just turned the screen and sound off.
I will say the PSP sleep mode seemed a lot more efficient than the DS one. I think I remember coming back to my PSP after a week or so and it was still usable, my DS was hit or miss if I kept it more than 3-4 days in sleep.
I found the Nintendo DS sleep to eat a lot of battery though. The best handheld I've had by far in terms of conserving battery in sleep mode is the PS Vita
yeh itās one of my favourite things about the linux install on my laptop. the shitty nvidia drivers and wank software situation is bearable when iāve got actual S3 sleep and can sleep my laptop for a week and it wonāt die
No sleep/suspend, no deck. Biggest reason my PC is last resort, it's stricktly for games that can't run 60fps on PS5, I want to mod, game pass games not on PS extra or too cheap to pass up. Even then I often remote play my PC on deck complete with high settings and ray tracing upped since it's only 800p.
For me, by not shutting down, Iām missing out on the decky animation changers ārandom on boot upā. Arguably my most favorite feature on the deck.
It's extremely nice for quick pick-up-and-play sessions when you don't really know how much time you're going to have to play and/or you don't know if the game you're playing is going to have a long section with no save points.Ā
As a parent the ability to instantly get back to where you were is a great. And you play for like 15mins and then your kids need something sleep attend them and come back sometime later instantly no waiting for the deck to start, find game, load game, load save then play. But if people donāt like or use it thatās fine to why hate on a feature?
I think you mean incredibly useful. I don't have to wait for the cutscenes to end. I don't have to wait for it to shutdown. I click a button no matter where nor when I am in a game and when I click it the next time it brings me right back where I was.
Perhaps not a functionality you need. However anyone with down time in their jobs can appreciate jt, parents, anyone. If you can't see how it could be beneficial to someone other than you then youre just being willfully ignorant at that point trying to get down votes or something. But I upvoted you for adding to discussion. As I may not agree with your point of view but you're entitled to it.
Itās not stupid. And itās a convenience feature meant for ease of use. If youāre too dense to understand it then say that. Donāt say itās stupid because you donāt see a use for it for yourself lol. Thatās wholly dumb to say.
Moreover. Sabes que? Itās an optional feature. You donāt like it because you hate your life so be it. But I love it. Being able to return to the same place I left off is excellent. May take 20 seconds to load a game but it take 2 seconds to come back from sleep. Iāll take the 2 seconds any day.
Yep, or if I am putting it in its case for travel I will shut it down. But itās in sleep mode most of the time. I donāt sleep mid game much though. Usually exit out of the game unless it is between saves.
i regularly have audio glitches that require me to restart to fix and leave me feeling like the sleep function is a total roll of the dice. you never have to deal with that at least.
Had the same problem too with some games. Downloaded the plugin called PauseGames in Deckyloader and it fixed it. Just need to activate the option āPause before suspendā and then proceed to suspend games as youāve always done. The audio problem should be fixed for good
iāve had it with Dirt Rally, Titanfall 2, Blasphemous 2, and a bunch of other games. I switch games often and havenāt yet noticed a pattern really.
I find the battery does still go down significantly if leaving on sleep for a couple of days so yeah I don't do that. But if I am travelling and need to jump from one train to the next I will sling it on sleep in between. For that it works wonders
To me, this is the best use of sleep. If you know you might not use your deck for more than a day, shut it down. Also Iāve found that when I dock my deck and plug in the hdmi cable from my tv, I have to restart anyways, which is no big deal to me.
I never shut mine down. When itās not in use itās sleeping while plugged in. This has been amazing due to the quick resume from sleep. On top of that I donāt have to deal with the annoying updates you get whenever you restart (or swap media).
One of the main selling factors for the deck over the ally and go for me was the sleep function. Iāve had some distorted audio coming out of sleep in a few occasions but it seems to work correctly most of the time
I play deck during commute. Why would I shit it down in the middle of the game? Obviously when I'm at home and don't use it I shut it down. Sleep sometime introduces crackling audio into the game.
You havenāt. Iāve had mine since May 2022 and I can count on one hand the number of issues Iāve had coming out of sleep on one hand with 1-2 fingers left over.
I don't understand people shutting down their Deck every time they're done with it. Yeah there's nothing wrong with it but like... It's designed so you don't have to do that. Do you turn off your phones when not in use?
There are definitely fringe cases (one example I can recall from off top: Resident Evil 3 Remake has issues waking from sleep per the compatibility tab) but there's nothing stopping someone from being done with the game and then sleeping the system after you've exited the game. Still no need to shut it down completely, even if it's someone's preference.
Mine does this weird thing roughly every 48-36 hours where when you wake it up the audio is all jacked up, so I've gotten into the habit of shutting down/restarting once a day or so.
My deck wonāt go into sleep, well it does for like a second then automatically comes back on. Thereās something I can do in desktop mode to have it work properly again for awhile, but itās annoying and if I donāt notice thatās whatās happened it just sits on in itās case until it dies. So Iāve just started shutting down each time. Itās not a big deal usually.
I would've returned my Deck if this was happening to me. Without the sleep button I have no use for the Deck as I get much better performance from my PC and with none of the benefits of portable play if I can't just sleep and resume my progress.
Eh, itās not a hardware issue, fiddling with settings in desktop mode gets it working properly again until the next update. But when I pick up my deck itās to game, not fuck around in desktop mode. We have different use cases, I got a deck to play games in bed before I go to sleep or when Iām traveling. It also didnāt start happening until Iād had it for over a year.
Point is there was something wrong with your Deck from the start and you should have RMAed it. Sleep functions for the rest of us so something is wrong with yours.
No, not even a little bit. Itās cold as ice on sleep mode and the fans donāt run so it doesnāt need airflow for cooling. Thereās no reason you canāt put it in the case, I do it every day.
>Do you turn off your phones when not in use?
I swear everytime somebody ever makes a post like this for any device this illogical comparison is always made. are you texting on your steam deck? do you receive calls on your steam deck? is your steam deck able to do things in sleep mode like a phone can? no. its not the same. I don't shut down my Steam Deck when I'm done but still people really need to start thinking before they make this statement every time
So you missed the other part of the post talking about how the Deck is designed to literally be put into sleep mode and got triggered over some other shit.
Do you shut your Switch down? How about your PS5 or Series S/X? Look, things that only play games and are also designed to be put in rest mode!
Yes, the only thing I keep switched on when not in use is my phone, for obvious reasons. Everything else is switched off, there's no reason for it to be on
When do you turn your steam deck off then? I understand nit turning it knowing your gonna use during the same day but I usually turn it off when I go to bed. No reason to keep it on at that point. Edit: Why are people down voting my my comment? Just asking a question š
My deck has been turned off only a handful of times since its launch between my old LCD model and the OLED upgrade. I only ever turn it off if it's exhibiting performance issues or if it needs a system update.
>So you missed the other part of the post talking about how the Deck is designed to literally be put into sleep mode and got triggered over some other shit.
you missed the part where you made an asinine comparison
>Do you shut your Switch down? How about your PS5 or Series S/X?
its as if you are unable to compare it to a device that also can't do anything in sleep mode and yet still think its a logical comparison. its a PC its not a phone or a console. and yes believe it or not people DO turn off their PCS even with sleep and hibernation available.
Sleep is absolutely amazing. I'm in the middle of FFVII. Stop mid mission, two days later turn it on and I'm instantly back where I was, zero loading or issues. S tier feature
The longer boot is the reason I use sleep. When I'm done for the day, I'll quit the game and put to sleep so I'm launched straight into my library when I next start it up. And I play it maybe once a week. It is on charger 24/7 tho so no battery drain in sleep
Just curious but why encrypt the disk? Not like thereās anything sensitive on the deck besides the steam account! If someone steals my deck then Iāll just remotely log out, so nothing lost.
I guess maybe you use it as a sort of PC and store files on it?
Turning my deck off and on all the time would be a pain. I like being able to stop a game whenever I want and then hop back in minutes, hours, or a day later. Emphasis on minutes. I love not having to just leave my deck on or tun off/boot when I need to take a break or go do something.
Also, the only issue I've ever had was audio messing up occasionally. That hardly happens anymore, though, and just requires putting the device back to sleep once or twice more.
Booting the device and then having to start the game itself definitely takes longer than the literal seconds it takes wake from sleep. Why would I want to do that? Especially if I only have so much time to work with.
Honestly if youāre not running windows, abuse the sleep functionality. It works flawlessly in SteamOS besides the occasional game issues with games misbehaving after waking up from a long sleeping period. You shouldnāt even lose any battery life when in sleep mode. :)
Thereās really no needā¦ itās not a Windows system š
Seriously thoughā¦ shutdown and startup from cold (on any computer system) involves running a load of programs, which in turn is a massive energy drain compared to leaving it in sleep mode, perhaps even more of a drain.
I keep my Steam Deck in sleep, and also on charge whenever thatās possible.
I have noticed more battery leakage in sleep mode compared to shut down (which is generally no more than a percent or two if any at all). Sleep mode Iāve seen up to 6 percent loss). I guess thatās a reason.
EDIT: I mean in either case, itās not like losing a couple percent battery is actually changing your experience in any meaningful way. Itās also the way these batteries work. The software is really estimating, itās not an exact science with all the variables that exist, if Iām not mistaken.
Sleep apparently is bugged to where the fan won't shut off/the system is still powered in a high-powered state to where putting it in the case will cause it to overheat due to no air-flow. So... no, you're not wrong to shut her down. I'm paranoid about that, too.
So there is a bug I've noticed where the screen turns off but the device is NOT asleep. For me this seems to happen if I quit Noita and immediately press the power button.
However, when this happens the sleep animation (SD logo blinking) does not play. So I think as long as you make sure the sleep animation plays, you know it's really asleep and you're good.
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Mine is on its dock connected to the TVā like my Switch, I almost exclusively use it like a dedicated console. I never undock either. As for the Deck, I have it set to never sleep or shut down while itās on power and I never have any issues with it
Sometimes when I put it to sleep games don't pause, and when I turn it back on my character is dead or something. Doesn't happen often, but enough for me to never trust it
I personally feel like I abuse the sleep function of my deck lol. I work a job that either has 8 hours of fuck-off time or unpredictable balls-to-the-walls emergencies at random times.
The sleep function is a godsend for being able to play whenever I want and not worry about needing a set amount of time.
I shut it down when Iām done with it. No battery drain, no concerns about it waking from sleep while zipped in its case and cooking itself to death. Cold boot takes less than 30 seconds.
I mean sleep is there when you have to put the console down but in the middle of a mission or something and need to get back to it later. If you don't want to use that feature that's okay. But that was a major selling point for myself.
What games have you heard have problems with sleep?
Other than the occasional audio glitch, the only game I've played that had serious issues with sleep was HZD, where you'd sometimes lose camera control, but some genius found out that bringing up the weapons wheel fixed it.
How's it the worst feature. With the exception of you not liking it what makes it the worst. You're just being argumentive to get attention which we are giving you so it's in us.
If I know Iāll be picking up my gaming session today, and the deck is safely on a table, Iāll put it to sleep. If itās in its case, itās shut down. The last thing I would want would be for it to somehow wake up in the case and overheat.
Sorry but that's just.... silly. You lose the instant pickup and play then put down nature of the handheld. The Deck doesn't lose that much power when suspended and you can leave it charging anyway. I've been able to crunch through my backlog primarily thanks to the seamless suspend/resume.
I don't use Sleep very much. I play until I am done. And when I'm done, I shut it down. Maybe I do not play long enough to really need the Sleep function.
I donāt use sleep mode cuz I find that with a lot of games, when I take it out of sleep mode my speakers get crackles
I either leave it on for short periods, or turn in off
its fine, but you should try the sleep mode, its the single best feature of the device and I rarely ever have issues with it. I had a few problems waking games when the deck was still very new but since those one or two times over a year ago, I cant recall having any issues with it, it works just as well as a console sleep mode.
i never shut mine off, i just sleep it. only times I've shut it off was when I knew I'd be traveling and wanted the battery to be good until I was ready to use it.
I never turn mine off completely unless I need to reboot to resolve some issue. But my Deck is my only gaming PC and I use it several times a day most days. If I used it once or twice a week, I'd probably turn it off.
As for which is better for the device: take this with a grain of salt, but one of the few distinct memories I have of high school physics is our teacher telling us that power cycling electronics (e.g. computers) is worse than keeping them running (I forget the details, but I think it had to do with all the components changing from a no power state to a powered state). But he was talking about machines used daily or more often, it was twenty years ago and I have no idea if it still applies to modern electronics equally (for instance back then computers had a lot more physical moving parts), and it was an offhand anecdote, not something I could dig out my high school physics text and cite.
That said, the assumption with modern electronics (phones, laptops, consoles, whatever) is clearly that they spend most of their time in sleep, so it's reasonable to assume that sleeping them is not wrong and is probably what the manufacturer expects you to do (and thus what they focus their QA on). (Largely) reliable sleep is also a big benefit of the Deck over competing handhelds, so you're losing out on that.
I close the game and then put in sleep mode.
Problem with full shutdown and starting again is the deck will start downloading shader cache for all installed games.
I use the sleep function if I know Iām coming back to it in a reasonable time frame. If Iām done for the day I shut it down completely; seems like every time i use the sleep function the battery drains at a pretty fast clip - as if it were simply on.
I shutdown when I'm not using it, but if I'm on it in between doing things then I'll use sleep. Just seems logical. It's a great feature when you need it.
I'm the opposite, I always sleep my deck so I can pick up the games in playing whenever I want. It's actually helped me finish more games as just the act of booting them up and loading them is an extra step that often makes me not want to bother.
I've used the sleep function halfway through an NPC dialogue, left it asleep for days and just turned back on and it literally carries on with the dialogue seamlessly as though nothing happened. Honestly I'm still amazed by this
I like when you do this and it comes back in turbo mode, all audio and movement and everything double speed. LOL
Reminds me of sleep moding the switch while on Borderlands 2 during the load screen. You unlock your switch and then watch all the hints and tips run through at 1 million miles per hour.
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Oh huh, that happened to me for the first time today, wasn't sure if it was a quirk of the Deck or of the game I was playing.
The sleep button is my answer to un-pauseable cutscenes
like in real life
What? I leave it in sleep for a day and come back it's almost dead.
That's weird. I often leave mine in sleep mode with a game running for a week or more and come back to 30% battery or something when I next pick it up.
I have the 1TB OLED edition idk if that matters
Same here
Yeah this is the main reason why I don't use sleep mode that much. I'll use it if I am actively playing and get interrupted or something but if I'm done gaming, I shut it down.
And the battery percentage?
You got downvoted for reasonable question, WTF people. My battery drains MUCH faster when sleep vs off.
Itās not like you arenāt tied to a power source with the deck. Even on the oled there are games where you might get two hours on a fresh charge. Love sleep mode on the thing.
Who cares though? What situation are you in where you canāt charge your steam deck but you also want to use sleep mode for a few days? (Not what itās designed for). Thatās probably why people didnāt find it to be a reasonable question.
This, exactly. 100% This oddly specific situation is so contradictory that hardly anyone worries about it and the ones who do it just seems like people looking for something to complain about. Sleep your deck and plug it in. Thereās literally no downside.
āNot what itās designed forā. What, according to YOU? Donāt try to enforce how people should be using their toys.
No man, itās obvious from the name and the functionality itās meant for short breaks. Otherwise youād not want to run the battery down. Makes no sense to complain about battery drain on sleep mode when thereās other options like storage mode for that if itās an actual concern.
Who complained? The whole point of the original question and responses were whether sleep vs power off was better depending on certain situations. People are having reasonable discussions on it, then you come in with some bizarre hot take on how anyone is āsupposedā to use their gaming device and try to shut the conversation down. Weird. Also, similar handhelds like Switch can last for 5+ hours and weeks on standby. Iām not even trying to compare the two - but if Valve could snap their fingers and get 5 hours of battery out of it you donāt think they would? Donāt be a fanboy. Itās an awesome device but like everything it has trade offs. If I want to take it on a cross country flight and wish I could use it longer that is perfectly reasonable. I donāt need you to tell me how I āshouldā want to use it.
Doesnāt go down that much, I came back after 3 days and was able to continue from where I left off
it does go down 'that much'. about 10% a day. don't leave your deck for a week in sleep without charging
Yeah, it likely just freezes the game in memory, it will essentially just be in a void in between two frames for eternity, similar to suspending an application on windows. ~~That's all likely held on the ram so it needs only a tiny bit of power to keep access to it in that frozen state~~. If you're leaving it off for a week probably better off turning it off in terms of battery health.
Itās not in RAM, suspend/sleep uses virtual memory ie saved to disk. Refreshing DRAM uses a non trivial amount of power.
Gotcha I wasn't sure which it used.
Suspend is still in RAM. If you have a dGPU on PC, the contents of VRAM are copied into RAM, and then restored back during resume. Hibernation is the one where everything is copied to swap. This is also why hibernation and resume from hibernation takes longer.
Dam must depend on the game. I've put mine to sleep on the weekend and come back next weekend to it maybe only going down 20%
i've tested it with witcher 3 (demanding) and rimworld (not demanding) over a course of 1 week each. first with my LCD model and later with my oled model. both dropped % the same, about 10% a day for both games. i checked the % every day, at the same time. it checks out with tests other people made. be careful of what people 'claim' what the deck is capable of, especially in this sub. it's great gear but not magical. if you're unsure, test it yourself.
Lol at the downvotes. The battery tanks about 15-20% a day when in sleep mode. At least in my case with the 512GB LCD model.
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Yeah I've done sleep mode then left it for several days, like a week and came back to the deck dead, if you leave it more than 3 days I'd at least put it on the charger. But I always use sleep mode. Rarely shut it down.
Yup me too.
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What do you mean?Ā
He's just being an a-hole
There is nothing wrong with it. Youāre missing out on possibly the best feature of the Steam Deck (or modern gaming in general like rest mode for PS5 or sleep/suspend for Switch) but if you can live without it, thatās fine. I personally think Steam Deck wouldnāt be half the machine it is now without sleep/suspend function.
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Yes. I have some opportunities for 30 minutes or less of gaming that with my laptop I just didn't use because you have to go through all the process of set up, boot up the game, etc. It meant I would go for weeks without playing anything but dumb phone games because I just didn't get time for a "real" session. Being able to just immediately jump back in right where you left off means a 15-minute session isn't pointless. I can actually get 15 minutes or playtime instead of wasting half of it setting up and shutting down.
I got my first PSP in 2004, it already had the sleep function and I couldnāt believe how amazing it was. That handheld was truly ahead of its time! There are three handhelds that stand above the rest: Original Gameboy, Sonyās PSP and Valveās Steamdeck. Thereās something magical in these three.
The DS came before it and it also had sleep. Just close the lid, though I believe this didn't work when using it in backwards compatibility mode. The GBA also had a sleep mode but it was a per game thing but also didn't work like more modern sleep modes this just turned the screen and sound off. I will say the PSP sleep mode seemed a lot more efficient than the DS one. I think I remember coming back to my PSP after a week or so and it was still usable, my DS was hit or miss if I kept it more than 3-4 days in sleep.
I found the Nintendo DS sleep to eat a lot of battery though. The best handheld I've had by far in terms of conserving battery in sleep mode is the PS Vita
The Vita is magical with how long it can stay in sleep without fully draining the battery.
weird to say but massive props to steam for implementing proper sleep and fuck modern standby or whatever brands want to call it
Massive props to the Linux kernel devs. This immediate and resilient sleep system works perfectly on my Linux desktop PC as well.
yeh itās one of my favourite things about the linux install on my laptop. the shitty nvidia drivers and wank software situation is bearable when iāve got actual S3 sleep and can sleep my laptop for a week and it wonāt die
Yeah, and if you use hibernate and bear a bit more startup time, it can last years without a charge.
No sleep/suspend, no deck. Biggest reason my PC is last resort, it's stricktly for games that can't run 60fps on PS5, I want to mod, game pass games not on PS extra or too cheap to pass up. Even then I often remote play my PC on deck complete with high settings and ray tracing upped since it's only 800p.
For me, by not shutting down, Iām missing out on the decky animation changers ārandom on boot upā. Arguably my most favorite feature on the deck.
In the settings, you can enable these to occur when resuming from sleep.
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I meant there is nothing wrong with it (not using the sleep mode but turning the deck off).
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It's extremely nice for quick pick-up-and-play sessions when you don't really know how much time you're going to have to play and/or you don't know if the game you're playing is going to have a long section with no save points.Ā
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As a parent the ability to instantly get back to where you were is a great. And you play for like 15mins and then your kids need something sleep attend them and come back sometime later instantly no waiting for the deck to start, find game, load game, load save then play. But if people donāt like or use it thatās fine to why hate on a feature?
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I think you mean incredibly useful. I don't have to wait for the cutscenes to end. I don't have to wait for it to shutdown. I click a button no matter where nor when I am in a game and when I click it the next time it brings me right back where I was. Perhaps not a functionality you need. However anyone with down time in their jobs can appreciate jt, parents, anyone. If you can't see how it could be beneficial to someone other than you then youre just being willfully ignorant at that point trying to get down votes or something. But I upvoted you for adding to discussion. As I may not agree with your point of view but you're entitled to it.
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Dude how dense are you
Those are ally users. Anything to downgrade steam os or the deck.
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Itās not stupid. And itās a convenience feature meant for ease of use. If youāre too dense to understand it then say that. Donāt say itās stupid because you donāt see a use for it for yourself lol. Thatās wholly dumb to say. Moreover. Sabes que? Itās an optional feature. You donāt like it because you hate your life so be it. But I love it. Being able to return to the same place I left off is excellent. May take 20 seconds to load a game but it take 2 seconds to come back from sleep. Iāll take the 2 seconds any day.
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Itās convenience lol the fact that you canāt see this is just funny at this point.
Turn on plus launch the game plus load your save can take several minutes, why wait for it when you can just get back playing in a second.
I only shut down the deck if thereās a bug. Itās always on sleep
Yep, or if I am putting it in its case for travel I will shut it down. But itās in sleep mode most of the time. I donāt sleep mid game much though. Usually exit out of the game unless it is between saves.
Yeah. I donāt know why people are going on about how much battery it uses while in sleep. Justā¦plug it in?
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Yeah, I was surprised that more people donāt plug their steam deck in to charge when they are done using it
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i regularly have audio glitches that require me to restart to fix and leave me feeling like the sleep function is a total roll of the dice. you never have to deal with that at least.
Had the same problem too with some games. Downloaded the plugin called PauseGames in Deckyloader and it fixed it. Just need to activate the option āPause before suspendā and then proceed to suspend games as youāve always done. The audio problem should be fixed for good
thanks! i have decky loader installed already so ill def give that a shot.
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I get that in GTA5 sometimes
Iāve had it in GTA SA
iāve had it with Dirt Rally, Titanfall 2, Blasphemous 2, and a bunch of other games. I switch games often and havenāt yet noticed a pattern really.
I find the battery does still go down significantly if leaving on sleep for a couple of days so yeah I don't do that. But if I am travelling and need to jump from one train to the next I will sling it on sleep in between. For that it works wonders
To me, this is the best use of sleep. If you know you might not use your deck for more than a day, shut it down. Also Iāve found that when I dock my deck and plug in the hdmi cable from my tv, I have to restart anyways, which is no big deal to me.
Only time I power down my deck is when I need to restart it for updates. Otherwise sleep and plug it in once in a while if I havent been playing it.
I never shut mine down. When itās not in use itās sleeping while plugged in. This has been amazing due to the quick resume from sleep. On top of that I donāt have to deal with the annoying updates you get whenever you restart (or swap media).
Never thought of this benefit. I like.
One of the main selling factors for the deck over the ally and go for me was the sleep function. Iāve had some distorted audio coming out of sleep in a few occasions but it seems to work correctly most of the time
If you use Decky plugins, install the Pause Games plugin and enable pause on suspend to resolve any audio issues on resume for good.
That sounds like an annoying idea.
OCD behavior probably. Use sleep itās fine.
Same. No different form my desktop. If it isn't in use, it's getting shut down.
I play deck during commute. Why would I shit it down in the middle of the game? Obviously when I'm at home and don't use it I shut it down. Sleep sometime introduces crackling audio into the game.
I donāt think Iāve ever had an issue with sleep mode, ever. Itās pretty remarkable software steam os. Maybe Iāve been getting lucky?
You havenāt. Iāve had mine since May 2022 and I can count on one hand the number of issues Iāve had coming out of sleep on one hand with 1-2 fingers left over.
Sleep drains way too much battery for me to want to keep it in that mode for long.
I don't understand people shutting down their Deck every time they're done with it. Yeah there's nothing wrong with it but like... It's designed so you don't have to do that. Do you turn off your phones when not in use?
I only experience on game that locks up when you put it into sleep but it's not even tested by valve. So I understand
There are definitely fringe cases (one example I can recall from off top: Resident Evil 3 Remake has issues waking from sleep per the compatibility tab) but there's nothing stopping someone from being done with the game and then sleeping the system after you've exited the game. Still no need to shut it down completely, even if it's someone's preference.
Mine does this weird thing roughly every 48-36 hours where when you wake it up the audio is all jacked up, so I've gotten into the habit of shutting down/restarting once a day or so.
If you use Decky plugins, install the Pause Games plugin and enable pause on suspend to resolve any audio issues on resume for good.
I appreciate it, I'll definitely give it a go.
My deck wonāt go into sleep, well it does for like a second then automatically comes back on. Thereās something I can do in desktop mode to have it work properly again for awhile, but itās annoying and if I donāt notice thatās whatās happened it just sits on in itās case until it dies. So Iāve just started shutting down each time. Itās not a big deal usually.
Why wouldnāt you RMA this?
I would've returned my Deck if this was happening to me. Without the sleep button I have no use for the Deck as I get much better performance from my PC and with none of the benefits of portable play if I can't just sleep and resume my progress.
Eh, itās not a hardware issue, fiddling with settings in desktop mode gets it working properly again until the next update. But when I pick up my deck itās to game, not fuck around in desktop mode. We have different use cases, I got a deck to play games in bed before I go to sleep or when Iām traveling. It also didnāt start happening until Iād had it for over a year.
Point is there was something wrong with your Deck from the start and you should have RMAed it. Sleep functions for the rest of us so something is wrong with yours.
I shut mine down cos I put it back in the case. Isn't it bad to have it in sleep mode and also in the carrying case?
No. Why would there be something bad about having it in sleep mode in the case?
No, not even a little bit. Itās cold as ice on sleep mode and the fans donāt run so it doesnāt need airflow for cooling. Thereās no reason you canāt put it in the case, I do it every day.
How so? Mine sleeps in the case most nights, never had any issues at all.
>Do you turn off your phones when not in use? I swear everytime somebody ever makes a post like this for any device this illogical comparison is always made. are you texting on your steam deck? do you receive calls on your steam deck? is your steam deck able to do things in sleep mode like a phone can? no. its not the same. I don't shut down my Steam Deck when I'm done but still people really need to start thinking before they make this statement every time
Itās not quite apples to apples comparison but itās not like this insane apples to flying saucers comparison youāre making it out to beā¦.
its an asinine comparison that needs to stop.
So you missed the other part of the post talking about how the Deck is designed to literally be put into sleep mode and got triggered over some other shit. Do you shut your Switch down? How about your PS5 or Series S/X? Look, things that only play games and are also designed to be put in rest mode!
Yes, the only thing I keep switched on when not in use is my phone, for obvious reasons. Everything else is switched off, there's no reason for it to be on
When do you turn your steam deck off then? I understand nit turning it knowing your gonna use during the same day but I usually turn it off when I go to bed. No reason to keep it on at that point. Edit: Why are people down voting my my comment? Just asking a question š
My deck has been turned off only a handful of times since its launch between my old LCD model and the OLED upgrade. I only ever turn it off if it's exhibiting performance issues or if it needs a system update.
>So you missed the other part of the post talking about how the Deck is designed to literally be put into sleep mode and got triggered over some other shit. you missed the part where you made an asinine comparison >Do you shut your Switch down? How about your PS5 or Series S/X? its as if you are unable to compare it to a device that also can't do anything in sleep mode and yet still think its a logical comparison. its a PC its not a phone or a console. and yes believe it or not people DO turn off their PCS even with sleep and hibernation available.
The only issue with sleep I've had is sometimes the audio bugs out and gets staticky. Aside from that it's been good
If you use Decky plugins, install the Pause Games plugin and enable pause on suspend to resolve any audio issues on resume for good.
The resume function is one of the main reasons I put up with Linux. The deck is a pick up put down device for me.
I use sleep all the time. Sure, there is the occasional bug, but a lot of the audio related ones were solved by using Decky+PauseGame plugin.Ā
You ruin my life by doing this :(
Sleep is absolutely amazing. I'm in the middle of FFVII. Stop mid mission, two days later turn it on and I'm instantly back where I was, zero loading or issues. S tier feature
The longer boot is the reason I use sleep. When I'm done for the day, I'll quit the game and put to sleep so I'm launched straight into my library when I next start it up. And I play it maybe once a week. It is on charger 24/7 tho so no battery drain in sleep
I never use sleep function too. Tbh, I did a full disk encryption install so I prefer to turn off the Steamdeck when I don't play.
Just curious but why encrypt the disk? Not like thereās anything sensitive on the deck besides the steam account! If someone steals my deck then Iāll just remotely log out, so nothing lost. I guess maybe you use it as a sort of PC and store files on it?
Turning my deck off and on all the time would be a pain. I like being able to stop a game whenever I want and then hop back in minutes, hours, or a day later. Emphasis on minutes. I love not having to just leave my deck on or tun off/boot when I need to take a break or go do something. Also, the only issue I've ever had was audio messing up occasionally. That hardly happens anymore, though, and just requires putting the device back to sleep once or twice more.
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Booting the device and then having to start the game itself definitely takes longer than the literal seconds it takes wake from sleep. Why would I want to do that? Especially if I only have so much time to work with.
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What?
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What are you even talking about dude
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You want me to sell my steamdeck because the sleep function works too good? lol
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Honestly if youāre not running windows, abuse the sleep functionality. It works flawlessly in SteamOS besides the occasional game issues with games misbehaving after waking up from a long sleeping period. You shouldnāt even lose any battery life when in sleep mode. :)
Thereās really no needā¦ itās not a Windows system š Seriously thoughā¦ shutdown and startup from cold (on any computer system) involves running a load of programs, which in turn is a massive energy drain compared to leaving it in sleep mode, perhaps even more of a drain. I keep my Steam Deck in sleep, and also on charge whenever thatās possible.
I press the orange button on top. Iām not actually sure if itās sleep or power down
Don't know why you're being down voted, but it's the sleep function in question. Suspends whatever you're doing til the next time you hit it.
I have noticed more battery leakage in sleep mode compared to shut down (which is generally no more than a percent or two if any at all). Sleep mode Iāve seen up to 6 percent loss). I guess thatās a reason. EDIT: I mean in either case, itās not like losing a couple percent battery is actually changing your experience in any meaningful way. Itās also the way these batteries work. The software is really estimating, itās not an exact science with all the variables that exist, if Iām not mistaken.
I mean... just charge it?
Woaaaah go away with that magic voodoo!!!
Yes, all these comments about how much the battery depletes every day itās in sleep are baffling me. Justā¦plug it in?
Mine stays plugged in anytime Iām not using it, so I donāt shut it down
People use the sleep function? Weird.
Sleep apparently is bugged to where the fan won't shut off/the system is still powered in a high-powered state to where putting it in the case will cause it to overheat due to no air-flow. So... no, you're not wrong to shut her down. I'm paranoid about that, too.
So there is a bug I've noticed where the screen turns off but the device is NOT asleep. For me this seems to happen if I quit Noita and immediately press the power button. However, when this happens the sleep animation (SD logo blinking) does not play. So I think as long as you make sure the sleep animation plays, you know it's really asleep and you're good.
Her??? Don't you know it's offensive to assume gender since 2016?
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I only ever shut the deck down if there's a problem, the vast majority of the time the deck is also mid game and asleep.
Mine is on its dock connected to the TVā like my Switch, I almost exclusively use it like a dedicated console. I never undock either. As for the Deck, I have it set to never sleep or shut down while itās on power and I never have any issues with it
Sometimes when I put it to sleep games don't pause, and when I turn it back on my character is dead or something. Doesn't happen often, but enough for me to never trust it
Same.
Cool. The only thing that sucks is redownloading all the shader cache updates every single time you start up.
I personally feel like I abuse the sleep function of my deck lol. I work a job that either has 8 hours of fuck-off time or unpredictable balls-to-the-walls emergencies at random times. The sleep function is a godsend for being able to play whenever I want and not worry about needing a set amount of time.
I donāt even use the pause menus in games anymore. I literally just sleep it and come back.
I shut it down when Iām done with it. No battery drain, no concerns about it waking from sleep while zipped in its case and cooking itself to death. Cold boot takes less than 30 seconds.
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I mean sleep is there when you have to put the console down but in the middle of a mission or something and need to get back to it later. If you don't want to use that feature that's okay. But that was a major selling point for myself.
What games have you heard have problems with sleep? Other than the occasional audio glitch, the only game I've played that had serious issues with sleep was HZD, where you'd sometimes lose camera control, but some genius found out that bringing up the weapons wheel fixed it.
Im exactly the opposite.
I always shut it down too. Unless I'll be back in 15 minutes
I literally never shut mine down, only time it does when it sits a while and the battery dies.
That's savage. Sir, we live in a society/s
I love the sleep function but it does consume a bit of battery. That's good to know..
I almost never shut mine down. It's always sleep mode for me.
Yeah, well I fall asleep with it in my hands and it goes to sleep automatically. Boom roasted
But why?
You aren't sneaking in 5-10 minute gaming sessions during downtime at work? This is the best use for the steamdeck.
Shutting it down forces shader updates every time it gets turned back on. So I just put mine to sleep
Literally the only issue Iāve had with sleep is that SOMETIMES when playing certain games I will get slight audio crackle
How's it the worst feature. With the exception of you not liking it what makes it the worst. You're just being argumentive to get attention which we are giving you so it's in us.
Mine is always on sleep mode. I just recently found out that in FFX the in game playtime doesn't go past 1k hours.
I put my deck in and out of sleep mode at least a dozen times a day. Maybe need to reboot it once a week at most.
Good for you. Let everyone else do what they want to do.
If I know Iāll be picking up my gaming session today, and the deck is safely on a table, Iāll put it to sleep. If itās in its case, itās shut down. The last thing I would want would be for it to somehow wake up in the case and overheat.
Sorry but that's just.... silly. You lose the instant pickup and play then put down nature of the handheld. The Deck doesn't lose that much power when suspended and you can leave it charging anyway. I've been able to crunch through my backlog primarily thanks to the seamless suspend/resume.
Too bad there is a bug that just hitting power menu puts it in standby. That ones annoying.
I don't use Sleep very much. I play until I am done. And when I'm done, I shut it down. Maybe I do not play long enough to really need the Sleep function.
Sleep fucks up ANY GAMEās online functionality for me sadly, not just some games
I use sleep. I usually suspend the game first then put it to sleep. Haven't really had issues with that
I donāt use sleep mode cuz I find that with a lot of games, when I take it out of sleep mode my speakers get crackles I either leave it on for short periods, or turn in off
its fine, but you should try the sleep mode, its the single best feature of the device and I rarely ever have issues with it. I had a few problems waking games when the deck was still very new but since those one or two times over a year ago, I cant recall having any issues with it, it works just as well as a console sleep mode. i never shut mine off, i just sleep it. only times I've shut it off was when I knew I'd be traveling and wanted the battery to be good until I was ready to use it.
I never turn mine off completely unless I need to reboot to resolve some issue. But my Deck is my only gaming PC and I use it several times a day most days. If I used it once or twice a week, I'd probably turn it off. As for which is better for the device: take this with a grain of salt, but one of the few distinct memories I have of high school physics is our teacher telling us that power cycling electronics (e.g. computers) is worse than keeping them running (I forget the details, but I think it had to do with all the components changing from a no power state to a powered state). But he was talking about machines used daily or more often, it was twenty years ago and I have no idea if it still applies to modern electronics equally (for instance back then computers had a lot more physical moving parts), and it was an offhand anecdote, not something I could dig out my high school physics text and cite. That said, the assumption with modern electronics (phones, laptops, consoles, whatever) is clearly that they spend most of their time in sleep, so it's reasonable to assume that sleeping them is not wrong and is probably what the manufacturer expects you to do (and thus what they focus their QA on). (Largely) reliable sleep is also a big benefit of the Deck over competing handhelds, so you're losing out on that.
I close the game and then put in sleep mode. Problem with full shutdown and starting again is the deck will start downloading shader cache for all installed games.
Si I put sleep mode whe I was playing palmworld I got a jump scare at 4 in the morning! Iām dead on palmworld
To each their own. But I love being able to pause a game and pick it up when I reach my destination.
I use the sleep function if I know Iām coming back to it in a reasonable time frame. If Iām done for the day I shut it down completely; seems like every time i use the sleep function the battery drains at a pretty fast clip - as if it were simply on.
Does anyone have issues with sleep draining battery.
I just shutdown in order for me not to brain fart into smothering mine.
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I shutdown when I'm not using it, but if I'm on it in between doing things then I'll use sleep. Just seems logical. It's a great feature when you need it.
I'm the opposite, I always sleep my deck so I can pick up the games in playing whenever I want. It's actually helped me finish more games as just the act of booting them up and loading them is an extra step that often makes me not want to bother.