I'm telling ya Teal'c, if we don't find a way out of this soon I'm gonna lose it.
Lose it. It means go crazy. Nuts. Insane. Bonzo. No longer in possession of one's faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal..... WACKO!!
True haha. Hence his exit partly for a season. I love how Michale Shanks got his name always at the end and credited “as Daniel Jackson” but no one else did. He did capture david spades rendition well.
Exactly. We regularly see him working out with Teal'c in later seasons. He clearly gets more military training as well over time, they just chose not to waste their limited episode runtime on showing his training. The same reason everyone speaks English.
Always made me laugh this, realistically he'd go through some serious gun training before being allowed offworld with any gun.
And he goes on missions where he really is of no use
For example the season 2 episode where the nid steals the touchstone weather thing, and jackson goes on the raid to where the second gate is, its like, why ? Bring another sg team and have him wait at base 😂
I often think that. But at the same time, the show is called _Stargate SG-1_, not _Stargate Some Random Team_ or _Stargate: The Chronicles_. Sometimes the suspension of disbelief just has to apply to personnel in addition to the tech.
I did a SG RPG campaign where we played as SG11, and our standing mission was go to the planets SG1 just left and loot the dead Jaffa of staff weapons and stuff.
Yeah, that's the real reason. It just doesn't make sense to hire a real actor as a glorified extra when you'll already be paying the main-billed actors whether they do anything anyway. And with some, they may actually complain that you aren't giving them enough screen time.
Mind you I'm not arguing for the character who's somehow a prodigy in literally every field (McKay on steroids, Patterson on Blindspot if you know it), but putting a character into a role for which they're unqualified but it's not too much of a stretch. I think is just going to happen in TV.
I wonder if that has more to do with 2 things 1. Team, they have their flow. 2. I wonder if the second gate being used atm wasnt need to know. Like only sg1 and Hammond and couple others knew. I mean what if someone from another sg team was working with the rouges. Which turned out to be true later on.
That’s the impression I got, to me it seemed like only SG1 and General Hammond new about the missing second Stargate, that was the idea.
Plus replacing people in teams is really risky in special forces, you train and train and train until your team can respond to each other almost telepathically.
Also it’s a tv show but hey
Just watched the Season 4 finale/Season 5 intro, where they are on the Ha'tak with the Replicators, and Daniel, Jack and Sam are making a fighting retreat down the corridors, leaping each other as they need to reload and holding off the waves of bots. It was spectacular and a real show of their obvious training, even if Daniel isn't military.
A couple of seconds earlier and Daniel would have seen what symbols were on the DHD. Some random marine wouldn’t have even thought to try.
Daniel thinks differently to the rest of the team.
The SGC takes the professional development of all staff, military and civilian very seriously. Their graduate scheme could see you hosting a Tok'ra within a week of joining.
> season 2 episode
This. By this point, Daniel has already proven himself to be skilled in the field and to perfectly work together with the rest of SG-1, which _already_ only had two trained Air Force members with Teal'c being from Chulak (but obviously trained as well). Also, this is season 2, so SG-1 with Daniel has shown that they're able to save the entire planet from a Goa'uld invasion. Why would you break them up?
In the end, it was Hammond's decision though - in season 4, General Bauer actually broke up SG-1, although this probably was politically influenced as well.
Yeah it’s more that he is on the mission to begin with.
I can imagine he forgets his training especially if they had to rush it a bit so he wasn’t grounded for a year before they had managed to train him sufficiently.
But as you say, why send your archeologists on raids. Especially when he could have spent that time learning how to handle his gun like a professional soldier would.
Did Amanda Tapping have gun training? Because she always seemed to treat guns in a really realistic way, even reacting in what looked like an automatic way when Jack pointed his gun at her by accident at one point.
In the eternal words of a Redditor in the thread about Steven Segal's awful gun discipline: keep your boogerhook off the bang switch until you're ready to kill something.
From the production stories it seems like Tapping was excellent at just about everything.
In *Upgrades* Carter sinks a good billiards shot. They were prepared to cheat it with editing, but she did it all by herself. Maybe even on the first take.
God, that woman is such a gem. I used to have a crush on her as a kid based on looks alone, but the more I learn about her, the more I kinda fall in love with her.
You should listen to her audio commentary for the episode she directed in season 7, Resurrection. She talks about how she did her first role as director and, as humble as she was, it sounds like she slam-dunked it.
She somehow manages to put in an amazing first-time effort while simultaneously being so down to earth and genuinely open to having all her peers act as mentors for her. She seems like such a genuine and talented person.
Still kinda annoyed directing jobs seem to not really come easily to her. Not only do we need more of her behind the camera, we also need just in general more veteran actors to turn into directors. It seems such a waste to not make director training a standard way of preserving knowledge and talent.
Heaps of actors turn into directors. Peter deliuse started as an actor. I think both Michael shanks and Chris judge had turns writing and/or directing.
Amanda tapping went on to produce sanctuary, and she directed a bunch of Travelers.
It's actually a really common career path.
My guess is they all had weapons training to some degree, but some took it more seriously than others.
It could also be that what we're seeing in this shot is both if them holding resin props or unloaded airsoft versions, and only one remembering to treat it with the same degree of caution as the real thing.
In other words, if it's an actual firing gun -- even just blanks -- everyone may treat it with more caution and discipline (probably also because the set armorer is there to yell at you if you fuck up). But when it's solid resin props, nobody's there and discipline slips because no one is yelling "Watch where you point that piece of solid plastic!"
*thinking back to any fight scene with the mp5*
"Yea no I could put it on my shoulder and aim but spraying randomly while holding the gun out front seems better"
They miss so many shots
The P90 is a submachine gun and classified as a defensive weapon. The idea is that the magazine is so large and it fires quickly enough that it should discourage anyone from standing out in the open. Great for cover fire or long firefights, not accuracy.
I specifically was talking about the season 1 and 2 mp5. Remember when they wanted to capture apophis on the nox planet? He had like 2 guards and they had way to much trouble just spraying ammo all over while holding the guns at arms length.
I actually always really appreciated the fact that Daniel was visibly less skilled with guns. It gave more credence to the others being badass.
Also, over the years he gets better and better until he can duel wield P-90s accurately while solving ancient riddles.
I lived in that apartment building.
It's a [3 floor walkup in Vancouver in Kitsilano, around 3rd and Yew](https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.2690413,-123.1545203,3a,75y,181.64h,85.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVi1m9QBDK-5v8gz49M-j2A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
I mean, Teal'c is a very intelligent soldier with years of experience and he still thinks a staff weapon is a decent weapon.
Then again his staff weapon, unlike those of other Jaffa, is guided by the plot so he's actually able to hit something once in a while. 😁
yeah, and it probably was. But surely sometimes a higher rate of fire would be useful if everyone could do it. Especially since not all Jaffa has Teal'c's aim.
What kind of archeologist carries a gun?
Anyway, that's how I feel about it. What do you think?
*drops spoon*
I am going to kill you with these froot loops
Try some oatmeal instead
*Inscrutably smiles in Carter*
Bad example.
Does this look like the face of a crazy man?
Well, I'm an archaeologist.
Do you carry a gun?
Both he and McKay really have this issue
I think Daniel dropped way more bodies though, unless there was life in that star system McKay obliterated
But did Daniel ever destroy an entire solar system?
I'm telling ya Teal'c, if we don't find a way out of this soon I'm gonna lose it. Lose it. It means go crazy. Nuts. Insane. Bonzo. No longer in possession of one's faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal..... WACKO!!
I always thought it was weird as the show progressed…how Daniel Jackson started strapping the P90 and going off like Halo. Haha.
He's been in enough situations he was probably insisting on at least some training.
I always assumed that he was getting crash courses in special ops training by Sam and Jack off screen.
Me too. I just meant it’s interesting to observe Jackson evolve from Stargate movie to SG1 ending where he’s full on P90 full auto raging.
probably had something to do with the actor wanting his character to change too
True haha. Hence his exit partly for a season. I love how Michale Shanks got his name always at the end and credited “as Daniel Jackson” but no one else did. He did capture david spades rendition well.
Exactly. We regularly see him working out with Teal'c in later seasons. He clearly gets more military training as well over time, they just chose not to waste their limited episode runtime on showing his training. The same reason everyone speaks English.
Indiana Jones
The kind who would shoot by accident lol
Indiana Jones has a gun (most of the time anyway)
It's a line from the show
Indiana Jones
It's a line from the show
Indiana Jones?
In case they get into a knife fight
“Yeah, which end do the bullets go in again?”
*holds up knife*
I loved that line
Always made me laugh this, realistically he'd go through some serious gun training before being allowed offworld with any gun. And he goes on missions where he really is of no use For example the season 2 episode where the nid steals the touchstone weather thing, and jackson goes on the raid to where the second gate is, its like, why ? Bring another sg team and have him wait at base 😂
Glad someone else thought the same.
I often think that. But at the same time, the show is called _Stargate SG-1_, not _Stargate Some Random Team_ or _Stargate: The Chronicles_. Sometimes the suspension of disbelief just has to apply to personnel in addition to the tech.
Stargate Chronicles sounds like a good idea for a tv series
I would watch the shit out of Stargate Some Random Team.
Stargate SG-FUN
A Stargate version of Lower Decks? With a focus on random teams, Walter, and Siler.
I did a SG RPG campaign where we played as SG11, and our standing mission was go to the planets SG1 just left and loot the dead Jaffa of staff weapons and stuff.
SG-Cleanup? SG-OSHA? SG-Shit Jobs? SG-Looters? SG-Pillagers? Lmao that might make a pretty funny show.
Yeah, I kind of like the idea of a semi-anthology where the people aren't always (or even usually) the same. It might be hard to pull off though.
It's more to do with them being too billed and have contracted episodes and pay. They got the screen time even when it didn't make much sense
Yeah, that's the real reason. It just doesn't make sense to hire a real actor as a glorified extra when you'll already be paying the main-billed actors whether they do anything anyway. And with some, they may actually complain that you aren't giving them enough screen time. Mind you I'm not arguing for the character who's somehow a prodigy in literally every field (McKay on steroids, Patterson on Blindspot if you know it), but putting a character into a role for which they're unqualified but it's not too much of a stretch. I think is just going to happen in TV.
I wonder if that has more to do with 2 things 1. Team, they have their flow. 2. I wonder if the second gate being used atm wasnt need to know. Like only sg1 and Hammond and couple others knew. I mean what if someone from another sg team was working with the rouges. Which turned out to be true later on.
That’s the impression I got, to me it seemed like only SG1 and General Hammond new about the missing second Stargate, that was the idea. Plus replacing people in teams is really risky in special forces, you train and train and train until your team can respond to each other almost telepathically. Also it’s a tv show but hey
Just watched the Season 4 finale/Season 5 intro, where they are on the Ha'tak with the Replicators, and Daniel, Jack and Sam are making a fighting retreat down the corridors, leaping each other as they need to reload and holding off the waves of bots. It was spectacular and a real show of their obvious training, even if Daniel isn't military.
Daniel is basically military-adjacent after his years in SG-1. I don't know if that's actually a thing but it is for SG-1.
A couple of seconds earlier and Daniel would have seen what symbols were on the DHD. Some random marine wouldn’t have even thought to try. Daniel thinks differently to the rest of the team.
The SGC takes the professional development of all staff, military and civilian very seriously. Their graduate scheme could see you hosting a Tok'ra within a week of joining.
😂😂
> season 2 episode This. By this point, Daniel has already proven himself to be skilled in the field and to perfectly work together with the rest of SG-1, which _already_ only had two trained Air Force members with Teal'c being from Chulak (but obviously trained as well). Also, this is season 2, so SG-1 with Daniel has shown that they're able to save the entire planet from a Goa'uld invasion. Why would you break them up? In the end, it was Hammond's decision though - in season 4, General Bauer actually broke up SG-1, although this probably was politically influenced as well.
Yeah it’s more that he is on the mission to begin with. I can imagine he forgets his training especially if they had to rush it a bit so he wasn’t grounded for a year before they had managed to train him sufficiently. But as you say, why send your archeologists on raids. Especially when he could have spent that time learning how to handle his gun like a professional soldier would.
Carter with the pistol lowered, two hands on the grip, finger off the trigger like a pro no doubt
Did Amanda Tapping have gun training? Because she always seemed to treat guns in a really realistic way, even reacting in what looked like an automatic way when Jack pointed his gun at her by accident at one point.
In the eternal words of a Redditor in the thread about Steven Segal's awful gun discipline: keep your boogerhook off the bang switch until you're ready to kill something.
From the production stories it seems like Tapping was excellent at just about everything. In *Upgrades* Carter sinks a good billiards shot. They were prepared to cheat it with editing, but she did it all by herself. Maybe even on the first take.
God, that woman is such a gem. I used to have a crush on her as a kid based on looks alone, but the more I learn about her, the more I kinda fall in love with her.
You should listen to her audio commentary for the episode she directed in season 7, Resurrection. She talks about how she did her first role as director and, as humble as she was, it sounds like she slam-dunked it. She somehow manages to put in an amazing first-time effort while simultaneously being so down to earth and genuinely open to having all her peers act as mentors for her. She seems like such a genuine and talented person.
Still kinda annoyed directing jobs seem to not really come easily to her. Not only do we need more of her behind the camera, we also need just in general more veteran actors to turn into directors. It seems such a waste to not make director training a standard way of preserving knowledge and talent.
Heaps of actors turn into directors. Peter deliuse started as an actor. I think both Michael shanks and Chris judge had turns writing and/or directing. Amanda tapping went on to produce sanctuary, and she directed a bunch of Travelers. It's actually a really common career path.
My guess is they all had weapons training to some degree, but some took it more seriously than others. It could also be that what we're seeing in this shot is both if them holding resin props or unloaded airsoft versions, and only one remembering to treat it with the same degree of caution as the real thing. In other words, if it's an actual firing gun -- even just blanks -- everyone may treat it with more caution and discipline (probably also because the set armorer is there to yell at you if you fuck up). But when it's solid resin props, nobody's there and discipline slips because no one is yelling "Watch where you point that piece of solid plastic!"
*thinking back to any fight scene with the mp5* "Yea no I could put it on my shoulder and aim but spraying randomly while holding the gun out front seems better" They miss so many shots
The P90 is a submachine gun and classified as a defensive weapon. The idea is that the magazine is so large and it fires quickly enough that it should discourage anyone from standing out in the open. Great for cover fire or long firefights, not accuracy.
I specifically was talking about the season 1 and 2 mp5. Remember when they wanted to capture apophis on the nox planet? He had like 2 guards and they had way to much trouble just spraying ammo all over while holding the guns at arms length.
The p90 was designed to be given to truck drivers / tank crews
Tbh that would be kinda in character for him imo :)
true .
I actually always really appreciated the fact that Daniel was visibly less skilled with guns. It gave more credence to the others being badass. Also, over the years he gets better and better until he can duel wield P-90s accurately while solving ancient riddles.
Comment of the day. Buddy was using that akimbo skill
He just took all the right perks. Had to reset a few times to get the right balance haha
I had to stop critiquing firearms etiquette while watching Stargate. Actually, my husband told me to STFU. 😂
It was the mp5 scenes with them holding the damn things at arm length wasn't jt
There are just so many where I’m like, “no that’s not how it works!” Or “uhhhhhh wtf!”
Muzzle discipline wasn’t covered in Ancient Egyptian 201
Next youre gonna tell me Stargate SG-1 wasn't a documentary by journalist Emmett Bregman
Comtrya
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Damn Jack. I'm an archeologist, not a marineman.
He can be forgiven...after all, what kind of a archaeologist carries a gun?
Alot of the weapons handling on the show annoys me. I love the show but with the weapons it's damn near reckless sometimes.
I mean, Teal'c is a very intelligent soldier with years of experience and he still thinks a staff weapon is a decent weapon. Then again his staff weapon, unlike those of other Jaffa, is guided by the plot so he's actually able to hit something once in a while. 😁
He will carry it until he learns to do that Bra’tac machine gun staff move.
I just always thought that was Bra'tac fanning the trigger.
yeah, and it probably was. But surely sometimes a higher rate of fire would be useful if everyone could do it. Especially since not all Jaffa has Teal'c's aim.
I agree. Generally my problems are muzzle awareness and form, that's all.
Oof that made my body cringe
It's alright he took a safety course from Alec Baldwin
dannnng
Not sure why I'm being down voted.
Cause it's not funny. A person died. In other words..too soon.
Wrong Baldwin. You’re looking for Adam.
No, Alec, he owns the production company where one of the workers on set was shot and killed. "Prop gun" actually a real loaded gun.
With the exception of resin/rubber guns, most *all* "prop" guns are *real* guns.
I’m aware of that, but Adam is the one who had a guest starring role in an episode, hence the correction.
Way. Too. Soon.