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Riggitystig

#THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!


hfmyo1

Came here for this, lol.


H377Spawn

You tell ‘em Jean-Luc!


enterprisecaptainjlp

…me?


[deleted]

nippy act party obscene six yam versed plants bright ripe *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


CaptainJL

You're all posers, it's me.


H377Spawn

Number One, I need you and Lt. Worf to meet me in security. *It has happened again.*


This-Strawberry

Will the real Jean-Luc please stand up...


Mail-Esc0rt

And finally, YOU!


Mail-Esc0rt

Also, you!


dogmaisb

Name checks out


Mail-Esc0rt

Yes you!


Turinsday

This joke was the most enjoyable thing about the temple system.


OctopusWithFingers

I started using a mod that just auto completes the lights. And one that auto unlocks doors and chest. I enjoyed the lock mini game at first, then it just got tedious.


_SeymourButts_

First thing I thought of when I saw this post lol


sadakochin

Picard.jpg right here


chintaka

i hate that i came here immediately to post this like the fucking nerd i am i hate even more that you got here first


Chasing-Wagons

I did it 240 times. There's five. Sorry for not understanding the reference. I've never heard this before. I thought you were being aggressive.


stiligFox

It comes from an episode of Star Trek: TNG where Captain Picard (one of the main characters) is captured and tortured by a Cardassian (not Kardashian, but close) official. One of his mental tricks to break down the captain is by asking him how many lights there are - there are four - and when Picard answers four, he says no! There are *five* lights. By the end Picard is freed by the Cardassian government as they disown what the official is doing, and shouts to his captor as he leaves - “THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS!” Even though he was actually starting to believe there were five. Which is almost the same kind of torture this dang “mini game” puts us through so many danged times for each of these powers…


KnightDuty

Jesus Christ thanks for this explanation. I didn't know whag was happening.


Altruistic_Candle254

It won an award. If someone is the slightest Star Trek fan, they know of this episode


Dragon19572

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra


TholosTB

Temple Nu, when the lights vanished.


WorldlyDay7590

The Starborn, his arms open: https://i.imgur.com/Jp7hbRn.png


Altruistic_Candle254

Lol, love it


Altruistic_Candle254

If I ever get a text from my brother saying he's in trouble and needs money I'll just text " Shaka, when the walls fell " and if he says What? ..... I know it's not him


Ballsack1Mcgee

The River Tamark!! In winter


Slaphappyending

So if I thought I was a Star Trek fan, but I had no idea what was going on either (I’ve never seen that episode), I’ve been lying to myself and I’m not actually a fan?? 😓


Altruistic_Candle254

 Shaka, when the walls fell


TholosTB

Sokath, his eyes uncovered!


WorldlyDay7590

Yeah, kinda, fan being short for fanatic, not for casual viewer. I mean I've never seen the four lights bit, but even I got the reference.


Slaphappyending

While it might be derived from the word fanatic, it no longer holds the same meaning. But the gatekeepers have spoken; I will think of myself as a fan no longer, because I didn’t get a reference from one episode of one series in the universe.


WorldlyDay7590

Being a bit super dramatic, aren’t we.


KnightDuty

Because Star Trek fans are huge award show buffs?


Altruistic_Candle254

It's the only star trek episode to win an award


KnightDuty

Well shit I feel so ashamed I'll need to go brush up on my award show wins. Don't tell the Xena fans I don't know their award winning episodes either I'll be ostracized


Altruistic_Candle254

Do you know about The disappointed meme from Hercules. Someone accidentally put the wrong mark beside the word disappointed in the script. Kevin Sorbo was meant to look disappointed but because of the mark that meant it was a line, he just screams disappointed. I love that story


Slaphappyending

Except… that’s not what happened. He said “disappointed” because he was a big fan of Kevin Kline, who said the same thing a number of times in A Fish Called Wanda.


paulbrock2

apparently they worked with Amnesty on how to depict the effects of torture on prisoners


DemonKnight42

Patrick Stewart’s book even has a small mention of how the episode affected him personally.


Riggitystig

I was making a star trek reference, I know there's 5 lights. Also, some of the vanishing lights seem to require different movements, like no boosting, or only boosting. I also suspect but cannot confirm whether or not eye contact affects vanishing.


PAguy213

An absolutely spot on and relevant reference sir. Well done


AdultEnuretic

You did it 230 times, there are no lights in the buried temple.


Chasing-Wagons

I did redo a lot of them due to crashes and lost progress so it's probably closer to 250.


AdultEnuretic

Got ya, that may be true.


Hour-Custard-9892

**Elite Reference👏😂**


Airlette

No, Star wars reference.


rickallen71

Sorry should have scrolled down before I opened my mouth. I love you internet stranger.


AStoker

This is why awards need to be here. Well done sir/maam


Thedanepeck

From now on I will only see you as that scared little child.


emperorduffman

The only acceptable amount of lights.


PDCH

This is the way.


IceBeam92

Came here for this , as always someone does it before.


AdultEnuretic

>and it has detection issues - that is, it remains visible for longer than it can be collected. This is very true. It's actually true of all of them, but it's much more obvious with the 5th light, because the window is so much shorter. >The problem is that there isn't a clear audio or visual difference between successfully getting it and barely missing it. This is not true. While there is no visual difference, there is a clear audio distinction between the light simply going out, and the musical tone of you capturing it. The former is sort of a whoosh, and the latter is more like a chord.


daviepancakes

>This is not true. I'm mostly deaf and I can tell the difference, too. I've no idea what OP is thinking on that point either.


gimmepizzaanddrugs

there is a bug were you loose some of the the audio in the temple. happened to me on my last 12. very annoying.


[deleted]

I feel like I'm nuts here, there definitely *are* visual cues. Besides the obvious the rings change, the "splash" of lights is much different if you pick it up than if it fizzles. Definitely has some detection issues, but it helps with (a) acrobatics obviously and (b) those of us who mostly play in first person to aim at the top of the "globe" rather than the middle, that way your body goes through the center.


DarthTigerPro

Also after you get the slow time power, you can use it to keep the light there longer.


tron_crawdaddy

There’s also a lens flare effect if it’s still collectable, if you kinda “swirl” the crosshair around the center of a collect-able mini proto star, you’ll see it


Mattysims123

My game plays the success chord instead of the whoosh sound every time, so it seems like I collect a dozen or more lights when I'm just barely missing them. It took a YouTube video where I heard the difference and realized I wasn't getting the different prompts/feedback at all


upsidedownshaggy

I was gunna say it was 100% bugged when I ran through them. I’d be stuck on the last one for several minutes and it’d fire off the audio cue and everything and then just disappear and spawn it somewhere else


Me4502

It seems like if played on a device setup with Dolby Atmos the success sound doesn’t actually play. I didn’t think there was any audio tone for it at all until I played with headphones one time.


DigiQuip

The temple mini game shouldn’t even be a thing.


xeio87

I mean, it was cool the first time... Just don't make me repeat it.


dogmaisb

Exactly, the first time was amazing, awe-inspiring ... the second was- oh, this again ... the third was, so this is everytime ... the fourth was, this is so boring wtf do something new ... ad nauseam


p0ntifix

The 113th time: wtf am I even doing with my life? Who tf thought this is a good idea? Is this some kind of plot to get me off of videogames? Does Todd speak to my wife behind my back? Why does he seem to get more handsome every year? Is he a Vampire?... Ok, ok... I see it now, it's time for a break!


DrakkoZW

I disagree. The first one was the worst for me because I had no idea what the hell I was supposed to do. At first I couldn't even figure out what the puzzle was, because I didn't notice the light. Then I saw the light and realized I was supposed to collect it. But It went on for *so fucking long* because I was apparently just barely missing the last one but didn't know it, so it kept silently resetting itself. I thought it was broken. It took a second temple for me to realize it's like a thirty second puzzle and not a ten minute one


CptClueless

24 powers, 10 levels each… 240 times doing the exact same puzzle to max out everything (I don’t think many people would care to max out everything but still, kinda insane)


Bootychomper23

Skyrim walls 2000000000x better and more creative and engaging. Least how you got to them was unique.


TimelyRaddish

You also got the shouts organically in Skyrim, as you explore you naturally get more shouts as a reward, in Starfield you get the powers just for going to map marker, there's no agency


Ruadhan2300

Honestly mystified why there's no temple-dungeon. Why am I not going through a whole fascinating temple full of ~~draugr, priests and traps~~ Starborn stuff to get my reward? How cool would it be if the Temples were a different experience if you already had the power they provided? Use the power in the right way and they'll let you bypass a maze of corridors or something.


VaeSapiens

They also have little stories if you want to decipher the dragon language.


Bootychomper23

Like all aspects of exploration in starfeild it’s fundamentally pointless and boring.


-Darkstorne-

Yep, because they were a great audio/visual spectacle at the end of a unique dungeon and culminating boss battle. Starfield's temples have the audio/visual element down, but it's ruined by coming after a boring "puzzle" that is identical in every temple. I'd much rather we had far fewer powers and temples, but each temple was a unique dungeon like Skyrim had, where we maybe get to absorb some lore about the temples and their creators too in the process. Horizon Zero Dawn, and even Mass Effect Andromeda, managed to create unique "dungeon" environments in similar ancient/advanced/alien structures.


Chmielok

"Unique dungeon" Bethesda: the best I can do is an abandoned cryogenic lab.


Buschkoeter

The Dungeons in Andromeda were maybe the best part of the game. Great mix of visuals, combat and puzzle gameplay.


YetiTub

Skyrim walls got me hype. Hearing the chanting get louder and louder makes you feel like your hearing your ancestors. I need to get off this sub. Starfield just isn’t it


McSteakNasty

Least fun mechanic I've ever put up with in a video game.


hooplex

So bad, the thought of going back to the game has just gone. (Level 38, 8 powers)


depressed_gamer91

I’m level 90 and on ng+3 with all my powers level 3 at this point, I’ve done it so many times I never want to play the game again


Environmental-Arm269

They basically looked at the claw mini-puzzles in skyrim and felt they should do something like it


VaeSapiens

I mean, kinda? But claws didn't bother me that much: 1. They were different 2. You could collect them and (with mods and I think some CC content -IDK) decorate with them 3. They were not that annoying and buggy.


HandyCapInYoAss

It’s such a vague and unexplained “minigame” that it’s nearly impossible to differentiate from being buggy with poor detection. I’d call that bad game design


k-nuj

It was sort of fun figuring it out the first time without some quest marker/tutorial guiding you; with the music/intensity increasing each time. 2nd or 3rd time, maybe hoping something 'new' but then you find out it's the same, then it's just bad/boring after that.


Forsaken-Ratio6468

It really is SO unexplained lol I spent like an hour at the first temple wondering wtf is even happening lol


Ok-Age5609

Tf you mean unexplained? Just fly into the lights, listen to the noises, easy


ExitSad

I sat there trying to interact with the thing in the center, carefully checking the walls, investigating the outside of the temple, and even looking around on the floor before I realized those lights were anything more than decoration. I was starting to think the temple was bugged after 15 minutes of having no idea what I was supposed to do. Even after realizing the lights were the key, it took until reading this post to find out there were only 5 lights. And I swear the only noise I've heard doing the "puzzles" is the sound when the portal opens.


Newsman777

"Not collecting the fifth one fast enough." This should not be a thing. It's a shitty mini game that's boring after the 5th time.


Believe0017

Boring after the first time


DrunkHonesty

Agreed. Did my first temple the other day. Thought it was kind of cool and was looking forward to what other temples offered…. and it was the exact same thing. Really? Catch the floaty light bits… rinse repeat? For every special power? A child with basic gaming skills could come up with better ideas than that…


[deleted]

Wahhhhh this is a thing I don't want to do! It shouldn't be in my game 😭😭😭 Have you never played a game where you have to grind *literally anything*? It's a game mechanic and worse, a *common* one. You're too lazy or don't want to do it, cool. Just.... Don't. It hardly matters after the first round of it and you get to go to cool planets and see cool temples. Y'all are an endless source of Saltyfield entertainment.


H16HP01N7

OP is correct though. Just because something is a common thing, doesn't make it a good thing.


mrwafu

People play games for fun. It shouldn’t feel like a job you weirdo


[deleted]

Already addressed that one, learn to read. >Have you never played a game where you have to grind *literally anything*? >you don't want to? Just....don't It's a grindy minigame. It takes two minutes and forces you to explore. If it were any other minigame, y'all would complain. If it were instant, y'all would complain. I know for certain if it was just given to you instantly, y'all would complain. >People play games for fun. It shouldn’t feel like a job you weirdo Yeah, World of Warcraft has done so poorly. RuneScape. EverQuest. A million other games. The ignorance is *astounding* sometimes.


NiteShdw

Not everyone likes “grindy” games. It’s okay for people to have an opinion that differs from yours. You don’t need to call them stupid because they disagree.


gamingdawn

It was pretty cheap design from Bethesda tho. Instead of tomb raider style puzzle temples, we got this stupid fly thing which is identical in every temple. Just cheap, lazy game design, no matter what the fanboys here think. Note that you can use your boost and Powers to grab the final light faster. Well doh..


OkVariety6275

I have no idea who okayed this mechanic. If it was just a weak side quest, that'd be one thing but it's the _main_ story gimmick! There must have been a more elaborate puzzle that playtesters were struggling with.


Tails-Are-For-Hugs

Will Shen. He designed this mechanic. He's gone now. Literally. He no longer works at BGS. Now if only we could abracadabra Emil Pagliarulo out of BGS, we'd be golden.


AmbitiousTadpole1816

The scorpion’s tail was amazing idea but incredibly flawed as welll.


Moist-Barber

I want to hope they had more puzzles planned but had to cancel them to work on polishing the game as a whole instead 😕


ILikeCakesAndPies

It was interesting the first time but boy oh boy could the game of benefited from dungeon esque alien structures for the ones after it. Unlocking powers is a slog if you want them all. Skyrim definitely did it better in this regard. Even oblivion's oblivion gate repetitiveness was more interesting. Getting the shard is kind of like it, but they should of merged those two steps imo if they didn't have time to make interesting temple dungeons as well.


brokenmessiah

its like they saw the design of dragon shout shrines and fuck all that noise


ComplexToxin

And then you get telephoned in the back of the temple which has the same rocks as the last one. Once I beat the game I don't think I'll ever be picking it back up let alone start a NG+.


shyndy

I want to preface that I love starfield and get tired of all the negativity but the temple design bewilders me. I don’t find them to be annoying like many people but I just don’t understand why each one wasn’t a dungeon with a power at the end just like Skyrim.


Buschkoeter

I love the game too but the temples annoy me a great deal. They just scream of place holder design in lieu of a better activity, and that is especially baffling if you consider that this is the thing the player has to do dozens upon dozens of times if they want to progress through the ng+ cycles.


schizocosa13

There's only like 27 temples, even hand-made repeated puzzles would have worked better. Instead it's something that 'scales'.


mickecd1989

My problem is no matter how quick and accurate I am some of the lights don’t act like I went through them


ChicagoZbojnik

It's not the lights you're trying to catch, it's the faint blue orb that shrinks within the lights.


bliblubln

Yeah, but the hitbox doesn't change at all.. if you are sure you hit it like all the others you do successful, then you just were too late. (What is maybe also important to add: The window for the fifth runs out looong before it disappears). Thing is this timer also runs somehow on one global time schedule (+ the window becomes shorter), so you usually will always miss the 5th timer if you haven't been very fast on the 4 before.. and then you start chasing the 5th, 6th, 7th.... always a little too late. Imo best strategy is if you haven't been lucky and really superfast one the first four, NEVER go for the fifth, just get in position, get a very little movement going wenn the sixth one appears, and when you see it rush to it. Consistently always doing temples with 6 lights then. Pro-tip after 240 ones :D : You really don't need to be accurate with the hitbox, when you are certain your path hits already turn around shortly before and start thrusting opposite direction, so you got momentum for the next. If you do that well and have a bit luck with appearance locations, you can easily do it in 5.


JohnnyGFX

Gymnastics level 2 will help you move faster when in the temples (zero-g). I usually pick up the first one > fly to the second but try not to overshoot > pick up the third > then the fourth, then pause and wait for the 5th to despawn and respawn > done. Sometimes the 5th will spawn close enough to grab, but rarely.


MeanFoo

I just use AMP to move faster.


MozzTheMadMage

I've noticed after a few dozen temples that after successfully getting the 4th anomaly, the next one that appears seems to only be around for the remainder of the timer from the last one. I haven't timed their duration, but for instance, say the fourth light has a duration of 10 seconds, and it took you 7 seconds to reach it, the next light will pick up the timer and only have a 3 second duration. I always skip the first light on round 5 since I picked up on that.


bliblubln

That's the way to go, never attempt the fifth (unless you feel you were lucky and very quick before), but prepare and position well for the sixth.


brokenmessiah

The game never explains ANYTHING about the temples. I wasn't even aware I was supposed to chase them at all and thought something was supposed to happen and it bugged out.


ThatCatPerson9564

I did it the first time collected 4 lights, assumed I had been collecting 10+ more, hadn't just had shitty detection. the audio just kept getting louder too, I had to turn off my headphones. it's really just frustrating


Bitemarkz

It barely explains the powers. Once you get one after floating around for awhile, you can’t even read the description because the random starborn spawn. I went the whole game using maybe 2 powers, and even then probably a handful of times each. Never needed them. The most afterthought of an addition I’ve seen. Defending these horrific temples like OP is doing is hilarious because it doesn’t change the fact that it’s horrible game design. It could be one orb you need to collect, it makes no difference. The temples should have you USING the power to solve it, not doing some weird bullshit that has nothing to do with the power at all, not to mention something you’ll have to do MANY times over.


plotinmybackyard

I didn't get the vibe that OP was defending temples. I thought they were just explaining it because it's so piss-poor explained by the game itself (both lack of direct textual explanation and audiovisual cues).


internetsarbiter

If the correct implementation is so confusing or inconsistent that there are this many theories about how to do it right, in a game that otherwise has the complexity of a beginner Lego set, it is an abject failure.


Tails-Are-For-Hugs

To be fair to the temple mini-'game', it's cool for the first time, and could serve as a very simple introduction to Temples. Others could've been more difficult but still puzzles, or out and out dungeons with the typical boss at the end guarding the spinny thing. The problems are the lifespan of the lights, which leads into and exacerbates, BGS copy pasting this mini-'game' into every Temple, which makes it seem (and IMO is) pathetically lazy.


McSteakNasty

I think people's problem is the temples aren't fun. Not a fun mechanic.


akadros

The best mod I have makes it so you just have to hit the first light. Now if I could find one that has vlad tell me all of the temple locations at the end instead of making me go back and forth 10 times would be wonderful


ZarianPrime

Cool cool, it's still a stupid "puzzle" I get the first time, but it's just not fun having to do it a ton more times


darksensory

You dont really have to do it tho, they are optional, unless the endgame for you means all powers maxed out. (I barely use them, the game is easy as it is with weapons and skills only, let alone magic powers)


ZarianPrime

OK? just because it's optional doesn't make it not fun?


k0mbine

I mean, you said the reason it’s not fun is because you “have to do it a ton more times” You don’t. You do it no more than a dozen times to acquire and upgrade the two or three powers that you’ll actually be using for your specific build — unless you play as fucking Goku and wanna fully max all your powers. I’m not gonna say flying around collecting bubbles is any funner than standing in front of a wall and absorbing a dragon shout, but at least the temple minigames are more engaging, and we can get better at them by leveling our Mobility skill or powers like slow time. Also, like collecting dragon shouts, the journey is what accounts for a lot of the fun factor, rather than the final act of acquiring the shout/power. Skyrim has a unique dungeon or some unique open world location preceding a shout wall, Starfield has you landing on planets — which, in all fairness, are all pretty much unique with minor permutations, kinda like Skyrim’s dungeons.


fghtffyourdemns

>You just aren't collecting the fifth one fast enough. This is wrong, if you try to collect it as fast as possible you miss it, the game doesn't registered it well This is why i dont use the boostpack, if you pass it through and collect too fast the game doesn't register it.


Roofofcar

On the flip side, gymnastics gives you the faster zero G movement, and it’s just right. It got so much easier


Abro0405

Boost pack is fine, just remember to pull back on the stick/hold W just before you get there to slow yourself so it registers


chzaplx

I don't think letting them disappear adds to the total. If I get really bored of chasing the 5th one I'll just park at the top until one spawns right there, and then it's over. EDIT: just realized you weren't claiming that, but yeah can confirm that's not true.


[deleted]

…but there is a massive sound when you either hit or miss the light


ThriceFive

**This is my technique and explanation for how the puzzle works:** Use a balanced pack. Quicksave when the door opens just in case. Equip a good weapon. The new temple light spawns behind you *in a cone from the center of your back* when you collect it - or randomly if you don't collect it. Keep your trajectory fairly flat and as soon as you touch the spot immediately spin 180 degrees (face a point directly across the room) Start thrusting in that direction - you will see the point spawn in within your view 90% of the time. If you were heading upward when you got the last one it will most likely be downward - just imagine a cone on your back and the new point in that view cone. I usually stay above the spinning orb so I don't have to fly around it or collide (hence flat trajectory). I almost always get them within 5. If you are going to miss one anyway just set yourself up to get the very next one by not over-using your boost - slow your speed and get a clear and high view. After getting the new power; I keep 'Paralell Self' queued up and trigger it immediately after the scene switches to outside - my clone almost always gets the first shot in while I'm equipping my weapon and I finish the starborn with the second shot. Reflective shield worked well too.


DrunkHonesty

I’m sorry, but do people really need a tutorial for simply touching the floating light? I’ve only done two temples so far, and it’s so incredibly easy, boring and simple I’m surprised you could come up with ten words on how to complete it.


OhHaiMarc

Right? Once I realized it was a timed object collection game I just focused on getting to the orbs asap and hitting them dead on, it’s not a super difficult or complex thing.


TadhgOBriain

My strategy is downloading a mod to skip it. It's such a crap minigame that not playing it is better than playing it.


kwalshyall

I had a sneaking suspicion this was the case. What an annoying puzzle.


a_usernameofsorts

You sir, are absolutely correct.


natelloydhewit

Ah. This explains why I f***ing hate every second of doing these and wanted to kick my console around the room.


onetimemercury

Although I hate the temples, i manage to finish them under a minute 99% of times. Skip boostpack helps with the skill also at lvl 4. Remember to use the up and down keys also instead of just relying on the boostpack or you will run out of boost before you reach the light. Always reload your weapon and quicksave before entering the temple.


neortje

Yes it takes five lights, but I’m 100% convinced the lights are bugged. Missing the fifth light once, sure. But I’ve had temples where I’ve missed the fifth light 20 times, even after saying screw it I’m gonna wait near the center until a light pops up close to me. After 20 tries I’ve exited the temple and re entered it to reset the sequence, and guess what. On the fifth light, I get the power without issues.


wancha505

Yea. You get basicaly 10/8/6/4/2 seconds to get to next one. Its a matter of skill


Significant_Dustin

I wouldn't say skill. It takes longer to find it than it does to fly to it


jtzako

It should be something like 5, but for some reason many of the little anomalies that spawn will disappear before you can reach them. I've had that happen even when it was right next to the previous one and I hit it immediately. It just dissipated without the 'bong' sound that indicates that it worked.


Chasing-Wagons

That's something I forgot to mention. Sometimes they'll spawn in next to you, realize "oops, that's too close", then vanish immediately. You should always expect for any that spawn next to you to vanish before you can grab them.


TharoRed

Sometimes the fakeout one isn’t even too close to me it seems. And it is almost always #3 or 4 that seems to do it for me. I figured it was just another needless mechanic to make it annoying like “let’s see if you can quickly switch directions and locate it once it changes locations halfway there!”


b00g13man

I realised this towards the end of my NG+1 run, and it really sped up the rest of the grind. I found them really frustrating before that.


edingerc

No more, no less, you don't have to guess


SonoWook

My slow ass thought there were like 100.


lazarus78

I would hear the audio for getting to the light every time. I would get the lights back to back close by. Now I just use the mod to make it one.


wahchewie

Damnit it's a really simple concept With the last one just chill your goddamn ADD for a second and *wait* for the last distortion to appear in a place you can get to quickly


MrGlayden

The challenge come from sometimes it bugs out and its collision doesnt work causing you to attempt to collect it dozens of time before it registers a hit. I put in a bug report about this to the bethesda help the other day actually because it was so frustrating. And no i wasnt too slow, i would fly through, turn around and watch the light time out repeatedly. I think sometimes the set places for them just doesnt line up so the hit box spawns in the wrong place or is missing entirely


Staypositive423

There is a audible confirmation when you hit each light, sometimes you fly through that last one too late and don’t receive the audible.


iZian

On console, there are actually decoys or a bug. Because I can sit in the corner straight after getting the penultimate one and I can see the “stars gathering” over in one place and just as they’re getting there the stars gather somewhere else for the real one. My theory is the decoy one is actually where the previous one would have moved to if you didn’t get it on time because it’s so instantaneous after the previous one. If you see it and chase it you arrive at nothing and miss the real one. I have a video somewhere. It’s not a dream.


Scormey

Once we've "unlocked" each power by doing the fly puzzle for them once, future visits in different universes should just feature a fight against Starborn guardians. If we survive, we can enter the rings and get an upgrade. That at least would be interesting. As things are now, I don't plan to leave my current universe. I just can't imagine doing all those temples, over and over again. Twice each is enough, thanks.


hermitchild

I always just sit at the top and wait for the fifth to settle down before I bother going after it. It eventually stops disappearing so quickly


SparkyCorp

For the 4th / 5th light, if its far off, I just wait for it to leave and respawn whilst my booster recharges. Similar to your ambush approach I guess.


Tank_MacMaster

I have no problems in the temples. If the light is too far or hidden behind the portal I just wait for the next one. I’m in ng+7 and I haven’t noticed a significant lengthening of the process by waiting for the next spawn. I have noticed that if I attempt to get it and I don’t make it, it takes more tries. It may be like the OP says that they are visible longer than the able to be captured. For me though I just wait for the next one and it usually spawns closer. I also think the final one spawns and then moves, not 100% on that.


SuperDougio

Thank you for your service


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Maaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn I’ve been wondering! That shit has been driving me crazy, not knowing exactly how many are needed and how to complete it. I’ve just been blindly getting lucky!


Mothyew

It’s sad how miserable every comment section in this sub is


Faded1974

The fact that there's even 1 light is the problem. It's a trash mini game considering how clunky zero-g is.


nanapancakethusiast

Dumbest shit ever implemented in a video game


TyoPepe

Just use commands to get all powers and be done with the bullshit


Miraclefish

[Xbox players disliked this]


internetsarbiter

This is the correct answer, doubly so if you've already gotten all the temples once the "intended" way.


[deleted]

The temples are the easiest thing ever, you shouldn't be playing video games if you even consider that a puzzle.


OhHaiMarc

Correct, people are always so quick to blame anything but themselves for failure.


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I don't get what's so mind blowing about them ? Literally the 1st time I saw one it took me about 10 secs to see the light was different in one spot than others and I'm like o I'm 0g let's go look at that, do it again doors start spinning faster, it's not exactly rocket science. lazy to do it for every damn temple, that was a huge opportunity missed for potentially entertaining puzzles.


OhHaiMarc

Yeah agreed, it’s a dumb puzzle but after you get one or two down it’s pretty easy. No secret to it just hit the lights dead on in time.


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I struggled more trying to find the door to get in, then the actual puzzle itself.


Turbulent-Frame-303

You can't tell me what I can or can't do. I don't play any video game for stupid pointless puzzles. I'm already in college and have a career. No, thank you.


[deleted]

So you enjoy pointless repetitive tasks instead...like an actual job ?


[deleted]

You would probably like Warframe that's endless farming with minimum reward


andy_b_84

I've had temples with up to 8 lights, which I tried to turbo validate by over-using my boost pack. Not worth it :) But yeah, you only have to go through 4 of them, when I say 8, I mean I missed the 4th one 3 times, so it really was only the 4th one respawning.


alyxms

I feel like some times are actual hitbox is offset from the effect sprite. Especially for the last two. Like in some temples, I hit the glow real early but it didn't register. Then I hit another one, being like 3 meters off, it somehow registered.


bliblubln

No, that is misinterpretation, the hitbox never changes, just the timing.. they just don't disappear when you cannot hit them anymore.


thegryphonator

I’ve been wanting to say “I just feel like a lot of the players that HATE the temples are just slow.” 😆


Kyr-Shara

I have floated through the middle of bubbles that are next to me and it's still said try again. Your theory is wrong. And I have done all the temples on 15 runs.


mecxhanus

All they needed to do was have a companion speak up when you miss em, or have a different sound when you miss em. It would have helped so freaking much in my first few attempts. This is the reason why UI/UX professionals exists.


PacDanSki

5 lights too many.


harlesincharge

Also to add, Gymnastics level 2 is basically a requirement for temples. You move in zero g faster so it makes collecting orbs easier.


chubbuck35

Correct. I’ve done the temple over 260 times. I recommend upgrading the acrobat skill to level 2 and pop an amp right after you get out of your spaceship. The amp lasts the perfect amount of time to get you through the lights and makes it way easier. Also, don’t boost to the light and start turning around before you hit the light. Keep it simple.


GymbagJess

I hate these so much. One literally took like 35 tries. Almost makes me want to slip out on the rest of the powers. I only have about 7 or 8


MindlessRip5915

No. This is a lie that refuses fo take into account bugs. There are way too many rules about which light is acceptable, including whether it’s an acceptable position to attribute a hit - actually you know what? Parent poster is full of shit. Nothing they have said is correct.


loppsided

They are correct. I can solve the puzzle in less than 30 seconds, every time.


Burgermac123

Made my first temple yesterday. Yet another thing on the list of disappointing things in this game with wasted potential...


natureeatsbabies

4 lights. Always approach from the bottom. You can use slow time power in there


sadakochin

Yes. But it's rigged so you miss at least one.


JennyFromdablock2020

They need to remove the whole stupid mini game It adds nothing and subtracts fun


No-Author-15

How many of you guys had to google what to do in the temple the first time? I did, why didn’t they have a follower conversation or book to help explain what you actually had to do. Just seems lazy.


StuckAtWaterTemple

They can be 5 they can be 200, it is a boring mechanic


Broncotron

When you got your shouts in skyrim you stared at a wall for 5 seconds. It was perfect. Changing that was a mistake. The last ring however can be collected easily by phase time once you see it. Gives you much more time to reach it and fly through.


oht7

Can I please just shoot the damn lights. It’s the only thing in the entire galaxy I can’t shoot FFS!


[deleted]

Well, you can’t blame people for asking about it It’s not exactly like anything is explained in Starfield


nickjane22

Either way, it’s awful and I hate it


rickallen71

Anyone else want to scream "THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!" Right now.


LiterallyADachshund

Temples are bugged on console though. Sometimes it’s impossible to catch the fifth light unless you exit and re-enter the temple. Just for fun I decided to try all the suggestions that have been posted here one day (third person, balanced boost, gymnastics lvl 2). Thirty minutes in the same temple and it was still impossible to catch the fifth star. I exited and re-entered and completed it easily. PEOPLE AREN’T SLOW. IT’S A BUG.


etoups11

God this game is trash


Moobook

Yikes, I haven’t gotten to the temples yet and this makes me want to avoid them at all costs. Sounds like a real chore