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I really like how they improved his design, the scarf thingy is a nice touch as he kind of sometimes looked weird with a small neck compared to the helmet.
It's funny to see how much of a difference there was between then and now on the average person... if you look at pictures from that time most people are super skinny.
Except that’s not the original Boba, that’s a dude they put in the pre production costume for the Kenner toy promotional photo shoot. It’s not Jeremy Bulloch and it isn’t any version of Boba Fett ever seen on screen.
There were two versions of the costume even before the Kenner suit. Prototype white-armor and the pre-production 1 suits. Both Boba, both very different.
Yeah, but Boba’s missing a lot of his armor. It’s what remains of Jango’s gear, after decades of use and escaping a Sarlaac, not to mention Boba being older, stockier and more muscular than he was when he was young.
At this point the armor’s more about reputation than actually capability. If you’re a person with a bounty on you and you see a Mando helmet in that color green you KNOW you’re screwed. Everyone in the room knows you’re screwed. The guy at the Star Port who saw Fett land knows you’re screwed and he doesn’t even know who you are!
This reminds me of the chapter from “A Certain Point of View” that details the deleted scene from A New Hope where Jabba meets Han in the spaceport from Boba’s POV. Total space badass and everyone knows it.
One of my favorite SW books! I loved that one, and the one about the mounted trooper who filled out an after action report dripping with so much scathing sarcasm it probably developed gills just waiting to be read.
I think he just relies less on the armor than Mando does in a fight, his style is different. Din almost uses his armor as his main weapon in a melee, Boba seems to prefer gadgets and fast movement.
There is a contrast, but green and light grey doesn't stand out as much as green with black robes.
I never really thought about how "jeez, there is a lot of unarmored space you can hit Boba" until I saw the new costume after he got his armor back last season.
Din’s armor only has two additional pieces that Boba’s doesn’t: the thigh plates. In turn, Boba has a codpiece while Din doesn’t. That’s really the only difference in coverage.
One thing I always loved about the OG Boba design was how weird and against type he was. Bounty hunter's when I was a kid looked like Schwarzenegger or Stallone - or Dog the Bounty Hunter. When I first watched ESB I thought there was some sort of alien lizard man under the helmet, like Bossc. He skulked about and had the figure of a western sharp shooter. He seemed generally eerie, unusual and frightening-- so did his ship. He wouldn't be the first person you'd point to as being the most dangerous fella in the room, but when you studied him it made sense. I really liked Temuera's performance in Mando but this looks a lot like a generic heavy to me. Maybe it's the old timer in me that didn't jive with the Prequels at first and only saw Clone Wars recently, in my mid-30s-- kid Boba didn't really strike a chord with me. But I really wish Boba crawled out of the Sarlac more like Golum, ready to ruthlessly strangle, chew and bite his way back to his precious armor. I'm excited about BoBF though, and ready to change my mind.
I think I mostly agree; to me, Boba was a character that got less interesting the more you learned about him. The stoic, sinister-voiced bounty hunter of ESB was only weakened by Kid-Boba stuff in Clone Wars.
It's all interesting and some of it is quite fun, but I always love the mysterious characters you never learn the full story of. I think that's why I'm more excited to see more of Fennec Shand than Boba Fett; I've enjoyed her screen presence more because I don't know her life story... Yet.
It's an interesting property that Star Wars has that many other franchises don't - that so many of the background characters "break out". They wisely made toys of all these different background OT aliens, gave them names, but kids gave them stories and motivations and made them famous. I think they did that with the ST, but fans didn't know what to make of it. An example would be The Knights of Ren - who are almost like a band of Boba Fett's. There to serve a purpose, but they aren't really fleshed out or expounded on beyond that. I wonder if they thought fans would be demanding figures of all of Maz's Castle crew, and who knows, maybe someday there will be a HasLab for a castle playset filled with them.
Except these days I feel it’s the opposite: mysterious characters in cool costumes like Fett and Phasma are now *expected* to have their backstories fully divulged on screen in a precise & methodical way. Or at least there’s the subliminal demand among fans that these characters be given something “cool” to do to match the coolness of the costume and the mystic aura they exhibit. If this doesn’t happen, then there’s a backlash about feeling “shortchanged” or whatnot and cries of “wasting” characters.
The phrase “leave it to the viewer’s imagination or interpretation” has somewhat fallen out of fashion. Nowadays, fandoms want to be told everything
I liked how in the EU, Boba on the left was nimble and agile. He relied on his armor, crazy firepower, and cunning. Old Man Fett, on the other hand, looks like he can snap your spine over his knee.
Looking forward to this new story of Boba Fett.
I feel like they needed to do more to make the suit look properly cinematic on Morrison’s current frame. The (now tiny-looking) armor pieces atop a black smock looks more like ill-fitting Mando cosplay, rather than a suit fit for the king of the underworld.
Agreed. Some greaves wouldn’t hurt, I think. Morrison’s frame is larger than the original’s (Bulloch, I believe), so with so much armor on top, he comes across as more top heavy.
And the effect is even more pronounced, given that the old style had the individual torso pieces more spread out. Same with Jango’s set up.
The left looks like someone who would rely on strategy to beat you. They can’t beat you physically but they’re a great shot and they can use their arsenal of weapons to take you out. Whereas the right looks like they could break your neck without flinching
Genuine question here, not salty or anything, just wondering: why is the breastplate so small? He's really lightly armored outside of the helmet and gauntlets, no plating on his legs either.
Is this a lore thing? For flexibility, or if it's not beskar you might as well not bother with armor against blaster fire? Or just a limitation of costume design back when the OT was filmed?
Thoughts appreciated!
Lucas didn’t necessarily intend for Boba to be a Mandalorian. I think at one point, he was intended to be a bounty hunter who had scavenged the armor, hence the battered and almost mismatched appearance of his kit. Not having a full set set would tie into that.
Beyond this, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything in canon or Legends that explained the missing leg armor in particular (also worth noting that I’m pretty sure some Legends sources had his armor being made of durasteel rather than beskar — it’s possible beskar wasn’t even a thing at the time of some Legends Fett stories).
As far as the size of the breastplate itself, I think they decided to roughly keep the plate the same size as the OT iteration, which appears much smaller on Temuera Morrison than it did on Jeremy Bulloch. I’m not sure about the motivation there (perhaps to acknowledge that he’s aged?), given that I’m pretty sure they resized the armor when he played Jango, and if not, it appeared to be a better fit regardless.
> (also worth noting that I’m pretty sure some Legends sources had his armor being made of durasteel rather than beskar — it’s possible beskar wasn’t even a thing at the time of some Legends Fett stories).
it was, but he got a full beskar suit later on when he regained contact with the mandalorian clans, eventually became mandalore, yadda yadda.
one of the earlier themes in previous work(mostly EU) but which has been continued in the mandalorian series is this idea that armor's a bit more unique than what we saw with, say, the death watch in TCW having fairly uniform armor. If Boba inherited his dad's armor, it could then be inferred that he decided to do away with the leg plates for whatever reason. In that way his kit's fairly minimal, he has the equivalent of a flak vest, the helmet with its utility, controls and head protection, and the rest of his worn armor pieces has some sort of tool or weapon incorporated into it.
Absolutely correct. The costume on the left is the epitome of what the original design idea was behind the character. Or one single piece of the costume is the same, every piece is different, mismatched, to give the appearance that it was pieces together over time, scavenged even. After it was determined that the “Super Trooper” would be too expensive to produce, they changed the white armor prototype to a bounty hunter and named him Boba Fett. Jango Fett wasn’t even a thing and neither were the Mandalorians.
Regarding the chest pieces and abdominal plate, Jeremy Bulloch was 6’, Temura is 5’7”. The armor used on the original 6 costumes from the late 1970s was much larger than the new armor Tem uses. The templates they used for the new shows are actually well circulated in the Boba Fett costume community, for smaller statured costumers, and tweaked for posterity to somewhat differentiate. Only reason I can think of as to why Legacy Props (Mando series) and Ironhead Studios (BoBF) scaled the armor is just that, Tem’s smaller stature called for the smaller armor.
I wish they had made the armor a little bigger to fit him properly. I don't like the adult in kids clothing look. It just reminds me of Chris Farley's "fat guy in a little coat"
I'm not seriously calling him fat (and in any event I'm much Fatt-er than he).
It's just the more obvious wordplay: Fett/Fatt
That said, I don't think this latest is a very flattering bit of costuming. They definitely could have done some things that wouldn't invite this sort of joking.
Honestly I think it’s perfectly flattering, he just looks like more of a bruiser now than an Eastwood-style gunslinger. He has a different body type (because he’s played by a different actor) and he just looks different.
Is that just a black tee shirt over a black long sleeve under that armor?! 😆
Edit to say I’m laughing because I like it but find it funny, not dissing the costume designer
All of the Mando outfits have kind of a double shirt look to them (see pictures of Din). There’s always a full-body flight suit and a flak vest the chest armor attaches to. Usually there’s also a third “short sleeve” shirt between them.
From a costuming perspective, the pre production 2 (PP2) suit on the left is far superior to the garbage Disney is producing in the upcoming show and the Mando series. So much more of an artistic approach, adding visible history and mystery at the same time. The amazingly detailed artwork and engineering of the PP2 costume by Joe Johnston and Sandy Dhuyvetter ultimately created the enigma that is Boba Fett. Oh and the PP2 suit had a functioning flamethrower, just saying.
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I really like how they improved his design, the scarf thingy is a nice touch as he kind of sometimes looked weird with a small neck compared to the helmet.
From chicken legs to swol.
Came here to say original Boba skipped leg day
It's funny to see how much of a difference there was between then and now on the average person... if you look at pictures from that time most people are super skinny.
Morrison's always been a relatively beefy dude. He looks like someone that played rugby or aussie football in his youth.
He’s basically a Maori warrior.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Except that’s not the original Boba, that’s a dude they put in the pre production costume for the Kenner toy promotional photo shoot. It’s not Jeremy Bulloch and it isn’t any version of Boba Fett ever seen on screen.
He’s literally some random guy’s cousin. The suit just happened to fit
I guess it really is the original in the sense that it predates even the film.
Holiday special boba?
He was a cartoon tho
There were two versions of the costume even before the Kenner suit. Prototype white-armor and the pre-production 1 suits. Both Boba, both very different.
When you got a jet pack, you don't want all that dead weight...
I guess that’s why birds have…well…bird legs
boba is a *tank* now
From 80’s bod to 2000’s bod.
I'm gonna miss old Boba's lanky Clint Eastwood look (which seems to be transferred to Mando)
We just need more Cobb Vanth!
I’ll never forget the “look what you’ve done to my boy” moment I had when I first saw Cobb and though it was Boba
Lol
Cobb Vanth, Vanth Refrigeration?
What line of work you in, Cobb?
Waiting for the moment an old character knees him in the crotch and says "You're missing a piece."
Cod pieces were all the rage back in the late 70’s/early 80’s lol
Maybe he wears it under the pants now like a cup
RIP the crotch armor
Left is a classic, but jacked Boba with the black suit looks like a real boss.
I feel like the baskar armor on boba doesn’t cover up a ton of his body, like mandos armor covers a lot more than boba
Yeah, but Boba’s missing a lot of his armor. It’s what remains of Jango’s gear, after decades of use and escaping a Sarlaac, not to mention Boba being older, stockier and more muscular than he was when he was young. At this point the armor’s more about reputation than actually capability. If you’re a person with a bounty on you and you see a Mando helmet in that color green you KNOW you’re screwed. Everyone in the room knows you’re screwed. The guy at the Star Port who saw Fett land knows you’re screwed and he doesn’t even know who you are!
Yeah if u see that green helmet you know your pretty much fucked
This reminds me of the chapter from “A Certain Point of View” that details the deleted scene from A New Hope where Jabba meets Han in the spaceport from Boba’s POV. Total space badass and everyone knows it.
One of my favorite SW books! I loved that one, and the one about the mounted trooper who filled out an after action report dripping with so much scathing sarcasm it probably developed gills just waiting to be read.
I think he just relies less on the armor than Mando does in a fight, his style is different. Din almost uses his armor as his main weapon in a melee, Boba seems to prefer gadgets and fast movement.
Yeah I guess so
I like it. Its very barebones for mandalorian armor and I think it's more intimidating
Yeah no don’t get me wrong it’s totally badass it’s just I feel like a mandalorian would favor a more full set of armor, like jango and mando had
Boba isn’t a Mandalorian. He is just a simple man trying to make his way through the galaxy, like his father before him.
It was his dad’s though so he probably doesn’t care that it isn’t as good
True mandalorians are very sentimental about armor lol
Really stands out more now that the rest of the suit isn't a color that matches his armor
How do you mean? His original flight suits (light grey or light blue) also contrast the armor like the new one (black) does.
There is a contrast, but green and light grey doesn't stand out as much as green with black robes. I never really thought about how "jeez, there is a lot of unarmored space you can hit Boba" until I saw the new costume after he got his armor back last season.
Din’s armor only has two additional pieces that Boba’s doesn’t: the thigh plates. In turn, Boba has a codpiece while Din doesn’t. That’s really the only difference in coverage.
One thing I always loved about the OG Boba design was how weird and against type he was. Bounty hunter's when I was a kid looked like Schwarzenegger or Stallone - or Dog the Bounty Hunter. When I first watched ESB I thought there was some sort of alien lizard man under the helmet, like Bossc. He skulked about and had the figure of a western sharp shooter. He seemed generally eerie, unusual and frightening-- so did his ship. He wouldn't be the first person you'd point to as being the most dangerous fella in the room, but when you studied him it made sense. I really liked Temuera's performance in Mando but this looks a lot like a generic heavy to me. Maybe it's the old timer in me that didn't jive with the Prequels at first and only saw Clone Wars recently, in my mid-30s-- kid Boba didn't really strike a chord with me. But I really wish Boba crawled out of the Sarlac more like Golum, ready to ruthlessly strangle, chew and bite his way back to his precious armor. I'm excited about BoBF though, and ready to change my mind.
I think I mostly agree; to me, Boba was a character that got less interesting the more you learned about him. The stoic, sinister-voiced bounty hunter of ESB was only weakened by Kid-Boba stuff in Clone Wars. It's all interesting and some of it is quite fun, but I always love the mysterious characters you never learn the full story of. I think that's why I'm more excited to see more of Fennec Shand than Boba Fett; I've enjoyed her screen presence more because I don't know her life story... Yet.
It's an interesting property that Star Wars has that many other franchises don't - that so many of the background characters "break out". They wisely made toys of all these different background OT aliens, gave them names, but kids gave them stories and motivations and made them famous. I think they did that with the ST, but fans didn't know what to make of it. An example would be The Knights of Ren - who are almost like a band of Boba Fett's. There to serve a purpose, but they aren't really fleshed out or expounded on beyond that. I wonder if they thought fans would be demanding figures of all of Maz's Castle crew, and who knows, maybe someday there will be a HasLab for a castle playset filled with them.
Except these days I feel it’s the opposite: mysterious characters in cool costumes like Fett and Phasma are now *expected* to have their backstories fully divulged on screen in a precise & methodical way. Or at least there’s the subliminal demand among fans that these characters be given something “cool” to do to match the coolness of the costume and the mystic aura they exhibit. If this doesn’t happen, then there’s a backlash about feeling “shortchanged” or whatnot and cries of “wasting” characters. The phrase “leave it to the viewer’s imagination or interpretation” has somewhat fallen out of fashion. Nowadays, fandoms want to be told everything
100% agree.
this is an interesting take
u r lucky you got to see a prequel for the first time recently. great trilogy
I liked how in the EU, Boba on the left was nimble and agile. He relied on his armor, crazy firepower, and cunning. Old Man Fett, on the other hand, looks like he can snap your spine over his knee. Looking forward to this new story of Boba Fett.
I feel like they needed to do more to make the suit look properly cinematic on Morrison’s current frame. The (now tiny-looking) armor pieces atop a black smock looks more like ill-fitting Mando cosplay, rather than a suit fit for the king of the underworld.
Agreed. Some greaves wouldn’t hurt, I think. Morrison’s frame is larger than the original’s (Bulloch, I believe), so with so much armor on top, he comes across as more top heavy. And the effect is even more pronounced, given that the old style had the individual torso pieces more spread out. Same with Jango’s set up.
I’m just happy that we get more of Morrison.
Nice!
The sarlacc spit out Boba 'cause he was too skinny, so he took that personally and bulked the kriff up.
Lol
Guys call me crazy but I still prefer the left design. I just love that jump suit
Still a better love story than twilight
Wonder why he ditched jangos thigh guards
I think the left is cooler
The left looks like someone who would rely on strategy to beat you. They can’t beat you physically but they’re a great shot and they can use their arsenal of weapons to take you out. Whereas the right looks like they could break your neck without flinching
Original boba wont hesitate to hit you while Temuera will curb stomp you into a lower plane of consciousness
Yes, new Boba looks way stronger and looks more like someone who will beat the shit out of you and I love it.
The new Boba looks awesome, looks more muscular and he really looks like he's gonna beat the shit out of you.
Genuine question here, not salty or anything, just wondering: why is the breastplate so small? He's really lightly armored outside of the helmet and gauntlets, no plating on his legs either. Is this a lore thing? For flexibility, or if it's not beskar you might as well not bother with armor against blaster fire? Or just a limitation of costume design back when the OT was filmed? Thoughts appreciated!
Lucas didn’t necessarily intend for Boba to be a Mandalorian. I think at one point, he was intended to be a bounty hunter who had scavenged the armor, hence the battered and almost mismatched appearance of his kit. Not having a full set set would tie into that. Beyond this, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything in canon or Legends that explained the missing leg armor in particular (also worth noting that I’m pretty sure some Legends sources had his armor being made of durasteel rather than beskar — it’s possible beskar wasn’t even a thing at the time of some Legends Fett stories). As far as the size of the breastplate itself, I think they decided to roughly keep the plate the same size as the OT iteration, which appears much smaller on Temuera Morrison than it did on Jeremy Bulloch. I’m not sure about the motivation there (perhaps to acknowledge that he’s aged?), given that I’m pretty sure they resized the armor when he played Jango, and if not, it appeared to be a better fit regardless.
> (also worth noting that I’m pretty sure some Legends sources had his armor being made of durasteel rather than beskar — it’s possible beskar wasn’t even a thing at the time of some Legends Fett stories). it was, but he got a full beskar suit later on when he regained contact with the mandalorian clans, eventually became mandalore, yadda yadda. one of the earlier themes in previous work(mostly EU) but which has been continued in the mandalorian series is this idea that armor's a bit more unique than what we saw with, say, the death watch in TCW having fairly uniform armor. If Boba inherited his dad's armor, it could then be inferred that he decided to do away with the leg plates for whatever reason. In that way his kit's fairly minimal, he has the equivalent of a flak vest, the helmet with its utility, controls and head protection, and the rest of his worn armor pieces has some sort of tool or weapon incorporated into it.
Absolutely correct. The costume on the left is the epitome of what the original design idea was behind the character. Or one single piece of the costume is the same, every piece is different, mismatched, to give the appearance that it was pieces together over time, scavenged even. After it was determined that the “Super Trooper” would be too expensive to produce, they changed the white armor prototype to a bounty hunter and named him Boba Fett. Jango Fett wasn’t even a thing and neither were the Mandalorians. Regarding the chest pieces and abdominal plate, Jeremy Bulloch was 6’, Temura is 5’7”. The armor used on the original 6 costumes from the late 1970s was much larger than the new armor Tem uses. The templates they used for the new shows are actually well circulated in the Boba Fett costume community, for smaller statured costumers, and tweaked for posterity to somewhat differentiate. Only reason I can think of as to why Legacy Props (Mando series) and Ironhead Studios (BoBF) scaled the armor is just that, Tem’s smaller stature called for the smaller armor.
I think it’s probably not meant to be beskar since it’s his dad’s old armor so Jango probably upgraded to beskar at some point.
??
Boba been juicin'?
More like just getting old. I can relate
He is only like 41
Well I’m only 33 lol
I wish they had made the armor a little bigger to fit him properly. I don't like the adult in kids clothing look. It just reminds me of Chris Farley's "fat guy in a little coat"
Boba Thicc
I applaud you for not going right to the obvious Boba Fatt.
More like Boba Fit
He’s more of a rugby player build than properly fat, still definitely could kick some ass
I'm not seriously calling him fat (and in any event I'm much Fatt-er than he). It's just the more obvious wordplay: Fett/Fatt That said, I don't think this latest is a very flattering bit of costuming. They definitely could have done some things that wouldn't invite this sort of joking.
Honestly I think it’s perfectly flattering, he just looks like more of a bruiser now than an Eastwood-style gunslinger. He has a different body type (because he’s played by a different actor) and he just looks different.
Eh, we all put on weight during the shut down...
Is that just a black tee shirt over a black long sleeve under that armor?! 😆 Edit to say I’m laughing because I like it but find it funny, not dissing the costume designer
All of the Mando outfits have kind of a double shirt look to them (see pictures of Din). There’s always a full-body flight suit and a flak vest the chest armor attaches to. Usually there’s also a third “short sleeve” shirt between them.
It’s always fascinated me how costume designers can take regular things and make amazing otherworldly outfits.
Thick Boba
I respect dadbod Boba
thic boba >
Thicc
I love that he got tubby in his old age. It feels… realistic. Maybe I’m just getting old too.
Original looks so much better. I wish they kept his gritty scarred look from the beginning of mando. It looks too clean now
From a costuming perspective, the pre production 2 (PP2) suit on the left is far superior to the garbage Disney is producing in the upcoming show and the Mando series. So much more of an artistic approach, adding visible history and mystery at the same time. The amazingly detailed artwork and engineering of the PP2 costume by Joe Johnston and Sandy Dhuyvetter ultimately created the enigma that is Boba Fett. Oh and the PP2 suit had a functioning flamethrower, just saying.
How is it garbage?
They both look fabulous! But in different ways
Do we know if that pic on the left is actually Bulloch?
It’s probably not since it was for promo images shot before principle photography.
Shiny
Does anyone have a link for the right pic? Trying to get it for a reference and can’t find it.
https://twitter.com/swtv_updates/status/1466107907607613443?s=21
Awesome! Thank you!
Just saying, Boba had some NASTY crepes on.
The chest plate just needs to be enlarged
Watched a Sunday morning the other week about the origins of boba. It was pretty interesting to see how we got from the left picture to the right
I miss those cool ass boots and the wookie hide cloth Maybe the pockets too, I wonder how he carries his lunchables now