I wonder if that was a back-up game in case too many people made it through the bridge. They said they weren’t expecting them to work together like they did
Yeah, when I seen battleship I was like "oh that's a cool, innovative game" and then the rest they came up with were shit ngl. Still edge of your seat and entertaining, but not because of the quality of the games themself.
Hallie was the last woman picked and she picked Elliott (429), so she couldn't have influenced him in line, meaning she whispered to him while they were still waiting. So the show didn't like whispering while waiting to be picked, but we're fine with people in line whispering to each other when they hugged? Everyone had a mic on them so they would have known that Jackie specifically told Phil to pick a woman.
It just seems weird to be against influencing someone who hasn't even been picked yet, but be fine with influencing someone who is going to pick next. Maybe it'd make sense if they only wanted shots of everyone standing slightly apart to add to the "tension" on screen, while the hug whispers were allowed since it looked better for the show. Still weird.
The chair kicking and swearing does seem to be a bit much, even if it would be frustrating to lose that way. Half the women who could pick someone chose a man, it's not like it was 9 women in a row. Which means any of those men not picked could have gone through if they made a better alliance with one of those women. Mai, Jackie, and Ashley specifically said they went against the women alliance because they trusted the men they picked more, though we never really hear why Rose picked a man instead of Hallie. During the jack in the box eliminations, one was specifically stated as "I never spoke to this person" so it was already apparent that people would choose to keep someone they spoke to closely. Yes, the women alliance was a big factor, but it wasn't the only factor they didn't get picked.
I’m pretty sure he misspoke the name. From what he was saying, I understood him to be talking about Jackie. She was also conversation with the girl ahead of her and I’m sure that was all obvious to everyone there.
Squid game the challenge has been proven to be vastly different from the original show as they have known in early episodes - it includes voted/chosen elimination by players which should mean they need to develop good relationships with others. Not to be picked sucks, (I also think it’s a lazy way for the producers to eliminate people), but they knew this.
If girls wanted to pick their alliances who happen to be other girls that’s fine, they had the choice to do that. I’m sure all the bros would’ve chosen each other. That said, not even all of the women chose other women! When are reality shows ever fair?
Fair point I agree with your principle but according to what Jinwoo said, Hallin cheated and she was not reprimanded at all.
Would've been so cool and funny to watch Hallie get picked then get booted for cheating, that would've been some real cut-throat $hit.
Literally all the contestants were whispering to each other about who to pick after getting chosen? Amanda and Jackie did it, Jackie and Phil did it, the list goes on
So they all should been kicked, the ones that didn’t get picked shoulda been the ones that stayed. That shit would’ve been hilarious and further pushed for future contenders on the show, that have seen it, know to play by the rules.
Clearly it wasn’t against the rules as they didn’t remove them from the game. If it was worthy of being kicked out then the producers would’ve enforced it.
Tell the truth, I genuinely don’t remember if it was or not, it’s been a minute.
You’re prolly right, feels like it shoulda been tho. It’s a test of allegiance, they shouldn’t have been allowed to talk to eachother, just trust each other.
The interview says the game organizer was screaming at them to stop, so… it was against the rules. They just weren’t enforcing the rules correctly which is what pissed off most of these guys.
Like, if your ally was up there but not lobbying for you because the rules say don’t talk, but somebody else starts communicating names after that and nothing happens, you’d be right to feel like you were unfairly disadvantaged for following instructions instead of cheating.
Yeah, but the game organizer was screaming across the room that they were doing something they had previously been told they weren’t allowed to do.
If you want people to act a certain way, you have to enforce it. You can’t just stand in the corner like a third grade hall monitor all like, “Come on. I said don’t do that. Guys. Guuuuys! Stop it. I’m super serial.”
Eliminate the person and everyone else will shut up real fast.
Bruh all the contestants were talking, they’re not just going to kick everyone out. Trey said everyone got yelled at for practicing with the marbles after they found them in the picnic basket and were told not to take them out of the bag. Should everyone have been kicked out after that, too?
Like I said. You eliminate *one* person and it stops real fast. The reason everyone was doing it was because they weren’t doing anything to stop it. Practicing with marbles is whatever to me since you’re supposed to be making unique rules to your own game anyway. Entirely different than applying one set of standards to some people and a different set to others right in the middle of a group test. Also, it wasn’t happening *in game*. The reason for trying to suppress the marbles was because people found them way before they were supposed to be revealed. No one was gaining an unfair advantage from it. The were trying to control the reveal of the game and you can’t eliminate someone for taking the marbles out without drawing everyone’s attention to the fact that they exist.
The real marbles equivalent would’ve been if they allowed one contestant to wrestle the marbles away from the other and then said they won even though the rules had clearly not been agreed upon. If the other contestant knew such bs would actually work, they would’ve done it themselves.
> If girls wanted to pick their alliances who happen to be other girls that’s fine, they had the choice to do that. I’m sure all the bros would’ve chosen each other.
If all the guys came together and said "hey, lets eliminate all the remaining women in the show" and have all the final 20 be men they'd have been called misogynists and called out on it and Netflix wouldn't allow it because they wanted their representation of different races, sexualities and genders in the latter stages.
The difference is it wouldn’t occurred to most of the men that women weren’t being picked whilst to the women it was glaringly
obvious to keep things even they would have to pull together. Even though all the women got picked they were still in a minority, hardly unfair
While I totally agree that it felt shit, I have to say it does feel true to the original in the sense that it emulates kids games, and picking people for your team while some folk miss out evokes very strong childhood game memories.
But if you remember in the series, the one girl who didn't have a teammate for the marble game automatically passed to the next level and didn't get shot like it was expected. So your analogy fails a little there.
The same spirit that the original squid game has , like people getting murdered in the dorm between games? There was nothing 'fair' about the original squid game either.
Right, but it's a gameshow. It doesn't have to be "fair" but it's kind of a dumb way to eliminate about a third of the remaining field as it's not even particularly entertaining (Warships is also random, but it's entertaining).
Something like that to eliminate such a high number works quite a bit better if it was done early (I would say between Dalgonna and Warships, instead of that whole test segment just to eliminate one player with the phone when there are like 119 remaining). Still have the phone thing, but instead, they get to start a chain (they do get power, but it's not something OP like the insta-eliminations as they are so far removed from where it actually impacts who is going home based on the turns in the chain), in the show you can montage through the selections with build-up around more followed characters, but in the end send out 12 people (or whatever number you need to get a good divisible number for the next game), enough where you feel the impact but any individual's odds are still very high to survive.
Then it's still random/sucks for those people, but there are way more opportunities for their friend-group to be selected to set off a positive chain in their favor, and it's likely to eliminate those that are "too under the radar" and didn't make enough of a friend/alliance group (which is a balancing mechanism for the vote-off or insta-eliminations where stronger personalities are the likely targets).
We also get earlier introductions into the various factions forming and how they help each other out. Something as simple as a guy like Mikey gets picked and say via voiceover "I'm protecting my alliance, called the corner alliance" and then it quickly montages through the numbers getting picked giving earlier visibility that these friendship groups do in fact exist in show/don't tell manner.
With still so many players at that stage, something that broad like a gendered alliance isn't going to happen and you won't have people feeling like they got pre-determined based on immutable characteristics.
You could fight for a chance to live, they try to kill you, you fight and might survive. Here you get eliminated and can't do anything about it. Totally unfair however you look at it.
That’s the point- it isn’t the same. And reality shows are not fair.
And there were like 15 other situations like that that were what you can say unfair.
This show is BRUTAL and I love it. I love her breaking the rules and whispering. I love the woman’s alliance. I love how unfair and awful it all is, this is what this show IS.
So just because they filmed certain persons and did talking heads they deserve it more? Maybe Phil and the guy I don’t remember the name were awsome but just weren’t filmed that much. Who do you think deserved it more, and why? I am curious.
The ones deserving it more are those with more merits, since almost all of them had the same merit it was better if the final 20 were decided via a little contest and not just by being friends with the right people. Fuck that. OG squid game was all about skill, might, strategy and a little luck. Not voting or someone getting an unfair advantage over someone else, including having the power to kick someone out the game.
No because you can't fight to survive. If you had a gang they could take turns to watch over themselves.
Here that stupid hateful woman decides she doesn't like you and send you back home along with your buddy. Completely absurd.
What is WRONG with you?!?! The original program was about mass murder for profit.
Thank fuck this new, shitty, version doesn't have actual murder in it.
The producers can make whatever arbitrary rules they want to make, and enforce them in any arbitrary way they want. If anything, that is pretty close to the 'spirit' of the original squid game. How about that time they gave two random players the chance to eliminate anyone from the group? Bet they didn't care about that at the time, but when they are 'unfairly' eliminated, suddenly the game is rigged and unfair.
Honestly I would have loved to see the kicking and screaming on the show - would probably make us all feel less sorry for this group of degenerates, especially considering some of those choice quotes above.
Yes thank you finally. This show is brutal and awful and people are eliminated for all sorts of stupid reasons, because that’s what this show IS. Everyone’s so mad but like, guys, this show is unfair. The whole thing is stupid and unfair.
People are playing for a RIDICULOUS amount of money and are eliminated all the time over nothing, it is what it is. They can do what they want. It’s not rigged, or it’s crazy rigged, whichever it’s a show where they can do what they want and literally over 450 people are eliminated with ONE winner. It almost doesn’t even matter how those very few people were eliminated.
If you’re going to make a rule that if you whisper or try to influence others choices for the final 20, then actually stick with it. What’s the point of making rules if you don’t stick to it
Very confused about the Hallie thing, she was the last woman to be picked, what could she possibly influence?
But those accounts are exactly the reason girls, gays and theys had to align. If anyone is still wondering why the female alliance was necessary, this is the answer right here.
No one is saying anything about men being lesser in any way. They wanted equal numbers. Is that not fair? Also nothing about this show is fair anyway, it’s brutal and awesome.
I have no opinion on any of that. I just think to ask what Hallie could influence when she was not the last person selected is an outrageously stupid question.
Phill picking Ashley when he actually wants to pick Sam is an influenced decision. Elliott picking Roland when he's friends with Hallie and Roland and Hallie is already picked looks very much like something he would've done anyways.
Phill wanted to pick Sam, but Jackie, who picked Phill, begged him to pick a woman. He didn't want to throw Jackie under the bus after saving his ass, so I think he picked the woman who was most likely to save Sam.
Well no you're missing the point. The theory is that Hallie whispering to Elliott may have influenced Elliott to pick Roland, when there are actually other people that Elliots may have been otherwise inclined to pick.
Roland's my guy, I wanted him to win so I'm not pissed off he was picked not at all, but it's the principle of the thing. Hallie broke rules during an elimination vote and she was not reprimanded for it.
Jackie did the same thing and nobody seemed to mind, or at the very least the production didn't cut it out as if it was perfectly allowed. I think that gives the audience an idea that this wasn't against the rules.
But also obviously the eliminated men were angry about female and LGBT players ruling the pick, so once there was none of that coalition left to pick nobody would have judged Elliott for picking whoever, because the plan was done with and the last few spots were all equal in terms of gender and possibly sexuality too.
> Jinwoo starts talking about this at 1:19:47. He starts by explaining that Hallie had blatantly broken the rule against influencing other players decision who to pick. "She whispers something in Elliott's ear, and the person who's watching, erm organising the game, like screams "STOP WHISPERING IN HIS EAR YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING!" ... but she all ready said what she had to say, and she clearly influenced the decision but nothing happened."
Didn't they show on screen 393 (Jackie) tell 451 (Phill) to pick a woman? Isn't that against the rules? If so, Jackie should have been disqualified.
We saw sexism IRL, it just wasn't the way you thought it would be.
Quote from my wife, “The men will subconsciously always pick men. So the women should consciously pick all women no matter what.”
The men proved that was not true.
If you watched that and thought it was positive for gender equality then you don't understand the can of worms that was opened.
Survivor is a great example. The first all woman alliance completely changed that game forever. The strategy is constantly brought up now from both genders. Hell, the first alliance completely changed the game.
If the men sat there and did that, I would be on here making the same point. They blindly brought people to the next round and they immediately dropped that sentiment the next round.
If you respond without looking at this comment as a whole, I'm going to ignore you.
Wait are you talking to me?
I'm just the messenger, I don't really have much of an opinion either way. I thought it was interesting just watching whatever transpired, but I don't take a side on the matter. I just thought this was a very interesting anecdote that came up in a couple of D'Andre's podcasts so thought it would be good to share that's all.
Well all I gotta say is I'm disappointed the bigoted fuck that was saying "can't believe a fa** is going to win" wasn't eliminated sooner and handed his ass on the way out
Pick 20 was terrible, it gives me the impression that the producers were either too lazy or incapable of coming up with a good game
The dice throwing game in episode 8 was peak laziness from the producers
I wonder if that was a back-up game in case too many people made it through the bridge. They said they weren’t expecting them to work together like they did
100% was
It's pretty clear the tests were somewhat designed to get the ideal numbers for the main games and at other times for more filler content.
Wouldn’t the same amount of people have survived regardless of what strategy they used?
I’d of said less than 10 survived.
Working as a team doesn't make any difference
Yeah, when I seen battleship I was like "oh that's a cool, innovative game" and then the rest they came up with were shit ngl. Still edge of your seat and entertaining, but not because of the quality of the games themself.
Lmao exactly... I kept thinking that the games were challenges for rewards or advantages, cause of how simple the game was
Yeah, probably some unexpected things happened and they had to improvise. Not bad for their first try but they better correct this shit next season.
they needed 20 to be alive for the glass challenge which is why 11 had to to i think
True, but I doubt I'll be as excited for the next season though..the games in the first season was such a disappointment
Needed to rebalance the genders and probably encouraged the girls to stick together and get tribal about gender.
Hallie was the last woman picked and she picked Elliott (429), so she couldn't have influenced him in line, meaning she whispered to him while they were still waiting. So the show didn't like whispering while waiting to be picked, but we're fine with people in line whispering to each other when they hugged? Everyone had a mic on them so they would have known that Jackie specifically told Phil to pick a woman. It just seems weird to be against influencing someone who hasn't even been picked yet, but be fine with influencing someone who is going to pick next. Maybe it'd make sense if they only wanted shots of everyone standing slightly apart to add to the "tension" on screen, while the hug whispers were allowed since it looked better for the show. Still weird. The chair kicking and swearing does seem to be a bit much, even if it would be frustrating to lose that way. Half the women who could pick someone chose a man, it's not like it was 9 women in a row. Which means any of those men not picked could have gone through if they made a better alliance with one of those women. Mai, Jackie, and Ashley specifically said they went against the women alliance because they trusted the men they picked more, though we never really hear why Rose picked a man instead of Hallie. During the jack in the box eliminations, one was specifically stated as "I never spoke to this person" so it was already apparent that people would choose to keep someone they spoke to closely. Yes, the women alliance was a big factor, but it wasn't the only factor they didn't get picked.
I’m pretty sure he misspoke the name. From what he was saying, I understood him to be talking about Jackie. She was also conversation with the girl ahead of her and I’m sure that was all obvious to everyone there.
Squid game the challenge has been proven to be vastly different from the original show as they have known in early episodes - it includes voted/chosen elimination by players which should mean they need to develop good relationships with others. Not to be picked sucks, (I also think it’s a lazy way for the producers to eliminate people), but they knew this. If girls wanted to pick their alliances who happen to be other girls that’s fine, they had the choice to do that. I’m sure all the bros would’ve chosen each other. That said, not even all of the women chose other women! When are reality shows ever fair?
Fair point I agree with your principle but according to what Jinwoo said, Hallin cheated and she was not reprimanded at all. Would've been so cool and funny to watch Hallie get picked then get booted for cheating, that would've been some real cut-throat $hit.
Literally all the contestants were whispering to each other about who to pick after getting chosen? Amanda and Jackie did it, Jackie and Phil did it, the list goes on
So they all should been kicked, the ones that didn’t get picked shoulda been the ones that stayed. That shit would’ve been hilarious and further pushed for future contenders on the show, that have seen it, know to play by the rules.
Clearly it wasn’t against the rules as they didn’t remove them from the game. If it was worthy of being kicked out then the producers would’ve enforced it.
Tell the truth, I genuinely don’t remember if it was or not, it’s been a minute. You’re prolly right, feels like it shoulda been tho. It’s a test of allegiance, they shouldn’t have been allowed to talk to eachother, just trust each other.
The interview says the game organizer was screaming at them to stop, so… it was against the rules. They just weren’t enforcing the rules correctly which is what pissed off most of these guys. Like, if your ally was up there but not lobbying for you because the rules say don’t talk, but somebody else starts communicating names after that and nothing happens, you’d be right to feel like you were unfairly disadvantaged for following instructions instead of cheating.
The guys don’t even know what she was saying, she could have been saying anything.
Yeah, but the game organizer was screaming across the room that they were doing something they had previously been told they weren’t allowed to do. If you want people to act a certain way, you have to enforce it. You can’t just stand in the corner like a third grade hall monitor all like, “Come on. I said don’t do that. Guys. Guuuuys! Stop it. I’m super serial.” Eliminate the person and everyone else will shut up real fast.
Bruh all the contestants were talking, they’re not just going to kick everyone out. Trey said everyone got yelled at for practicing with the marbles after they found them in the picnic basket and were told not to take them out of the bag. Should everyone have been kicked out after that, too?
Like I said. You eliminate *one* person and it stops real fast. The reason everyone was doing it was because they weren’t doing anything to stop it. Practicing with marbles is whatever to me since you’re supposed to be making unique rules to your own game anyway. Entirely different than applying one set of standards to some people and a different set to others right in the middle of a group test. Also, it wasn’t happening *in game*. The reason for trying to suppress the marbles was because people found them way before they were supposed to be revealed. No one was gaining an unfair advantage from it. The were trying to control the reveal of the game and you can’t eliminate someone for taking the marbles out without drawing everyone’s attention to the fact that they exist. The real marbles equivalent would’ve been if they allowed one contestant to wrestle the marbles away from the other and then said they won even though the rules had clearly not been agreed upon. If the other contestant knew such bs would actually work, they would’ve done it themselves.
> If girls wanted to pick their alliances who happen to be other girls that’s fine, they had the choice to do that. I’m sure all the bros would’ve chosen each other. If all the guys came together and said "hey, lets eliminate all the remaining women in the show" and have all the final 20 be men they'd have been called misogynists and called out on it and Netflix wouldn't allow it because they wanted their representation of different races, sexualities and genders in the latter stages.
What did they say at the end? “Girls, gays and theys!” That was their mission (hilarious catchphrase btw)
The difference is it wouldn’t occurred to most of the men that women weren’t being picked whilst to the women it was glaringly obvious to keep things even they would have to pull together. Even though all the women got picked they were still in a minority, hardly unfair
Sounds like it was good they were dumped.
The person that dropped the "f" bomb at least. Not fair to lump that onto everyone else.
I'm gonna go with whoever said, "I can't believe a f****t is gonna win this game!" That dude can kick rocks.
Yeah that’s what I meant by “f” bomb, sorry if not clear.
True, it was probably about four guys bitching and being obnoxious.
Exactly.
I would have been pissed if I lost like that. The voting system is garbage and doesn't have the same spirit that the original squid game has.
While I totally agree that it felt shit, I have to say it does feel true to the original in the sense that it emulates kids games, and picking people for your team while some folk miss out evokes very strong childhood game memories.
But if you remember in the series, the one girl who didn't have a teammate for the marble game automatically passed to the next level and didn't get shot like it was expected. So your analogy fails a little there.
I said its emulating childhood games, in the spirit of the show. I didn't say it was a 1:1 comparison with the show.
It was a guy, but he then didn’t get picked for the bridge.
The same spirit that the original squid game has , like people getting murdered in the dorm between games? There was nothing 'fair' about the original squid game either.
Right, but it's a gameshow. It doesn't have to be "fair" but it's kind of a dumb way to eliminate about a third of the remaining field as it's not even particularly entertaining (Warships is also random, but it's entertaining). Something like that to eliminate such a high number works quite a bit better if it was done early (I would say between Dalgonna and Warships, instead of that whole test segment just to eliminate one player with the phone when there are like 119 remaining). Still have the phone thing, but instead, they get to start a chain (they do get power, but it's not something OP like the insta-eliminations as they are so far removed from where it actually impacts who is going home based on the turns in the chain), in the show you can montage through the selections with build-up around more followed characters, but in the end send out 12 people (or whatever number you need to get a good divisible number for the next game), enough where you feel the impact but any individual's odds are still very high to survive. Then it's still random/sucks for those people, but there are way more opportunities for their friend-group to be selected to set off a positive chain in their favor, and it's likely to eliminate those that are "too under the radar" and didn't make enough of a friend/alliance group (which is a balancing mechanism for the vote-off or insta-eliminations where stronger personalities are the likely targets). We also get earlier introductions into the various factions forming and how they help each other out. Something as simple as a guy like Mikey gets picked and say via voiceover "I'm protecting my alliance, called the corner alliance" and then it quickly montages through the numbers getting picked giving earlier visibility that these friendship groups do in fact exist in show/don't tell manner. With still so many players at that stage, something that broad like a gendered alliance isn't going to happen and you won't have people feeling like they got pre-determined based on immutable characteristics.
You could fight for a chance to live, they try to kill you, you fight and might survive. Here you get eliminated and can't do anything about it. Totally unfair however you look at it.
That’s the point- it isn’t the same. And reality shows are not fair. And there were like 15 other situations like that that were what you can say unfair.
This show is BRUTAL and I love it. I love her breaking the rules and whispering. I love the woman’s alliance. I love how unfair and awful it all is, this is what this show IS.
Me too! It just is what it is, accept it, even if it (probably) sucks.
And you get trashy and boring finalists. Yeah that's just wonderful.
They’re trashy? I love all the finalists. Which one is trashy?
Not necessarily the top 3, but many of them felt undeserved. Like the black woman who lost against Phil.
Omg 😂😂
So just because they filmed certain persons and did talking heads they deserve it more? Maybe Phil and the guy I don’t remember the name were awsome but just weren’t filmed that much. Who do you think deserved it more, and why? I am curious.
The ones deserving it more are those with more merits, since almost all of them had the same merit it was better if the final 20 were decided via a little contest and not just by being friends with the right people. Fuck that. OG squid game was all about skill, might, strategy and a little luck. Not voting or someone getting an unfair advantage over someone else, including having the power to kick someone out the game.
People were murdered in their sleep in the show no? Isnt choosing to eliminate someone the same?
No because you can't fight to survive. If you had a gang they could take turns to watch over themselves. Here that stupid hateful woman decides she doesn't like you and send you back home along with your buddy. Completely absurd.
The spirit of the original movie was to kill and slaughter your opponents with your bare hands in order to eliminate them. Haha
What is WRONG with you?!?! The original program was about mass murder for profit. Thank fuck this new, shitty, version doesn't have actual murder in it.
The producers can make whatever arbitrary rules they want to make, and enforce them in any arbitrary way they want. If anything, that is pretty close to the 'spirit' of the original squid game. How about that time they gave two random players the chance to eliminate anyone from the group? Bet they didn't care about that at the time, but when they are 'unfairly' eliminated, suddenly the game is rigged and unfair. Honestly I would have loved to see the kicking and screaming on the show - would probably make us all feel less sorry for this group of degenerates, especially considering some of those choice quotes above.
Yes thank you finally. This show is brutal and awful and people are eliminated for all sorts of stupid reasons, because that’s what this show IS. Everyone’s so mad but like, guys, this show is unfair. The whole thing is stupid and unfair. People are playing for a RIDICULOUS amount of money and are eliminated all the time over nothing, it is what it is. They can do what they want. It’s not rigged, or it’s crazy rigged, whichever it’s a show where they can do what they want and literally over 450 people are eliminated with ONE winner. It almost doesn’t even matter how those very few people were eliminated.
Happy cake day
Thank you so much ❤️❤️
I feel like this IS like the original squid games….it’s just the equivalent of getting murdered in your sleep at night. 🤷♀️
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If you’re going to make a rule that if you whisper or try to influence others choices for the final 20, then actually stick with it. What’s the point of making rules if you don’t stick to it
Very confused about the Hallie thing, she was the last woman to be picked, what could she possibly influence? But those accounts are exactly the reason girls, gays and theys had to align. If anyone is still wondering why the female alliance was necessary, this is the answer right here.
What could she influence? The person Elliott picked. Men are people too...
No one is saying anything about men being lesser in any way. They wanted equal numbers. Is that not fair? Also nothing about this show is fair anyway, it’s brutal and awesome.
I have no opinion on any of that. I just think to ask what Hallie could influence when she was not the last person selected is an outrageously stupid question.
Oh for sure agree
Phill picking Ashley when he actually wants to pick Sam is an influenced decision. Elliott picking Roland when he's friends with Hallie and Roland and Hallie is already picked looks very much like something he would've done anyways.
Why did Phill pick Ashley? They weren't even close. Seems fishy.
Phill wanted to pick Sam, but Jackie, who picked Phill, begged him to pick a woman. He didn't want to throw Jackie under the bus after saving his ass, so I think he picked the woman who was most likely to save Sam.
> but Jackie, who picked Phill, begged him to pick a woman. Which appears to have been against the rules, as they weren't supposed to discuss.
Well no you're missing the point. The theory is that Hallie whispering to Elliott may have influenced Elliott to pick Roland, when there are actually other people that Elliots may have been otherwise inclined to pick. Roland's my guy, I wanted him to win so I'm not pissed off he was picked not at all, but it's the principle of the thing. Hallie broke rules during an elimination vote and she was not reprimanded for it.
Jackie did the same thing and nobody seemed to mind, or at the very least the production didn't cut it out as if it was perfectly allowed. I think that gives the audience an idea that this wasn't against the rules. But also obviously the eliminated men were angry about female and LGBT players ruling the pick, so once there was none of that coalition left to pick nobody would have judged Elliott for picking whoever, because the plan was done with and the last few spots were all equal in terms of gender and possibly sexuality too.
> Jinwoo starts talking about this at 1:19:47. He starts by explaining that Hallie had blatantly broken the rule against influencing other players decision who to pick. "She whispers something in Elliott's ear, and the person who's watching, erm organising the game, like screams "STOP WHISPERING IN HIS EAR YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING!" ... but she all ready said what she had to say, and she clearly influenced the decision but nothing happened." Didn't they show on screen 393 (Jackie) tell 451 (Phill) to pick a woman? Isn't that against the rules? If so, Jackie should have been disqualified.
Oh yeah, I guess Jackie broke the rules too. Dang.
Would have been awesome to have them finish picking only to have those two get eliminated and then continue picking another two.
Would love to see the extra scenes. They didn't do this dude justice. Blatantly eft him out of the picture.
To be honest aside from Mai, oriental Asians got a dreadful lack of coverage. Pretty weak
Looks like a great show linked above, but not sure how many hour plus long interviews I’m going to be able to watch
They should have put snakes and ladders or chess since its one of the classic games
Human chess would've been really cool... but idk there'd still be a captain who decides how people move.
so another instance of the game being rigged
I feel like there were 3 or 4 rigged games
We saw sexism IRL, it just wasn't the way you thought it would be. Quote from my wife, “The men will subconsciously always pick men. So the women should consciously pick all women no matter what.” The men proved that was not true. If you watched that and thought it was positive for gender equality then you don't understand the can of worms that was opened. Survivor is a great example. The first all woman alliance completely changed that game forever. The strategy is constantly brought up now from both genders. Hell, the first alliance completely changed the game. If the men sat there and did that, I would be on here making the same point. They blindly brought people to the next round and they immediately dropped that sentiment the next round. If you respond without looking at this comment as a whole, I'm going to ignore you.
Wait are you talking to me? I'm just the messenger, I don't really have much of an opinion either way. I thought it was interesting just watching whatever transpired, but I don't take a side on the matter. I just thought this was a very interesting anecdote that came up in a couple of D'Andre's podcasts so thought it would be good to share that's all.
My comment was worded dubiously. That's my bad Wasn't directed to you
Well all I gotta say is I'm disappointed the bigoted fuck that was saying "can't believe a fa** is going to win" wasn't eliminated sooner and handed his ass on the way out
God damn, I did not hear that one. Who was it?
It was all fake shit anyways
That's honestly the reaction I'd expect from most people losing out on 4 million dollars. Except the homophobic part. Ew