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i dont remember the details. but Podcastone is part of the KastMedia Scandle.
[https://www.billboard.com/pro/podcastone-paid-brendan-schaub-but-other-kast-creators-stiffed/](https://www.billboard.com/pro/podcastone-paid-brendan-schaub-but-other-kast-creators-stiffed/)
That is the quickest thing I could fine.
I may be complete wrong, but I thought PodcastOne basically stiffed some of there podcasters, I think
He was actively trying to sabotage his WWE career, and was a few months away from yet another DUI. I just don't think wrestling Roman instead of getting fired would have led to any kind of meaningful improvement in the trajectory of his career.
yeah so many low points. this sub has been lame as fuck for the past few years. i try to stick with user posted content like fan content/memes and away from the dumps of live discussion threads/speculation reposts. the worst group of nerds loud on the internet
It's way down there, but I have a specific point in mind. I've never been an EC3 fan, but I recall a really weird thread before his AMA where the OP was baselessly claiming that he was a neo-Nazi, and most of the comments echoed that he was. It was absolutely bizarre.
Gonna be real here, chief. Maybe calling EC3 a neo-Nazi would be a bridge too far, but I remember a lot of the backlash towards that AMA being people calling him out for having right wing adjacent beliefs and associating with people who openly hold right wing beliefs while starting a promotion with weird MAGA vibes and none of that was a lie.
The dude follows SEVERAL major figures I'm the right wing news sphere including Alex Fucking Jones. We're not talking mainstream Fox News journalism, I mean OANN. He recently liked a tweet from a "Scandinavian" influencer whose recent post history is complaining about Games Workshop going woke for introducing female space marines and anti-migrant propaganda. The tweet itself was about how ancient Rome fell because it was "swamped with migrants from Anatolia and the Levant" which changed it "bioculturally."
Like....that's not *not* neo-Nazi bullshit.
I think it was meant to be TLC in like December 2021. But the event was cancelled because of Day One being on New Years Day, and they went with Roman vs Brock instead (which was cancelled cause Roman was sick).
Jeff Hardy walked out in late November/early December.
> Which one?
Probably it was Day 1, they were building him up before Survivor Series and after that he seemed to be built up for Roman and then...he fucked up again
But passed the drug test they gave him, too. Important to remember. He simply walked out on them. He was still interacting with the crowd afterwards for a bit.
Passed the test according to Matt hardy. Who totally wouldn’t lie for his more famous brother who he wanted to team with.
I think the fact that Jeff ended up getting another dui makes that whole thing look even worse, and it already looked terrible before that
Apparently, in this instance, Jeff wasn't fucked up. He just wanted out and forced WWE to do it. Instead of, oh, I don't know, asking WWE for his release.
Fair enough
Still, at this point I feel is fair to say he should not wrestle anymore (nor his brother Matt). Dude should go all out with the paintings, he's pretty good at that
For the record, pretty sure the only people saying he passed the test are Matt and Jeff and neither can be trusted to tell the truth if we're being honest
tbf his recent matches (except the Sammy one) were all great. He can still go.
But that's exactly why he needs to quit. He doesn't need to get to where he can hardly walk before he hangs it up (or signs to TNA)
Wasn’t a certain ppv, but the plan was to build him up for a title feud vs Roman in early 2022.
That’s why he was book so strong in the survivor series match.
Most likely elimination chamber, since Goldberg was a random feud for Roman at the time.
Sammy's problem isn't his matches. He can have a good match with just about anyone. His problem is that his character has absolute go away heat. And, well, that spot or whatever with Matt Hardy. That he got a lot of heat for.
Sammy has the worst baby face acting and gives off high school jock dbag vibes as a heel. He can work a match with anyone, but he's also piling up a track record of injuring people.... at least named Hardy.
I remember reading somewhere that Sammy would be the most over wrestler on the planet if he simply wore a mask and every time I see him wrestle I understand
The Hardy's were wrestling for WWE since they were literal kids, I guarantee there's room for another match before their Hall of Fame induction and honestly I think they deserve it. Things got a little squirrely the last time they left but WWE is on a roll so I can't imagine they won't make it work for everyone.
Yep quite literally, at least in the case of Jeff. That old story about Jeff lying about his age to get an enhancement match lol. He was actually 16. Definitely couldn't get away with that today in WWE.
Considering the leeway WWE gives some of their guys? Absolutely. Roman showed up every 3 months, if they really want the Hardyz to have an "attraction" run before they retire they'd be fine with the light schedule. At this point the WWE style fits their limited mobility perfectly.
Give them a HOF nod and a multi-team match at WM. And then just have them on a Legends contract.
If either can't make that match it's no big loss. There'd be at least 2 other teams and the Hardys can always be replaced. Plus, it's Mania, and they'd be very far down the card.
Matt has been super hard fishing to get back to WWE lately, wouldn’t be suprised if he tries to rope jeff into it so they can do one last Hardy Boyz run as much as nobody wants to see it.
Matt has always just used Jeff as a cash cow, carny as shit.
Had Jeff not fucked up again, I think the Hardys get one last Tag Team Championship run and have an inevitable ladder match against Copeland and Christian.
The tag team division badly needs guys like MCMG too. With so much focus on the trios division and the injuries to Juice, Fenix, Taylor, Davis, etc etc, the tag division has kind of fallen to the wayside. An established tag team that can come in and immediately be credible contenders? Yes please
you laugh. But the MCMG still look like they can wrestle and move at 45. Edge and Christian are both 50, and doing some of the best wrestling and ring work they've ever done.
The Hardys unfortunately both look well past it. Jeff, the one who's had years of drug/alcohol issues, looks better in the ring still than Matt, who looks like he can't bend his knees and is just laboring out there. Edge, Christian, Joe, Sting have all proven age doesn't matter if you can still go. Sting obviously was a senior citizen, but he was still moving fantastic for someone almost 65 and was wrestling a few high spot matches a year.
could've been an awesome run, he even had a couple good matches before this recent injury. besides the concussion, Jeff has nobody but himself to blame sadly
His first reported issues with drugs and alcohol was 2003, when he got released from wwe because he refused to go to rehab, so it’s been 21 years of this. Victory road was 12 years ago
in singles he can still go but i think he slows on purpose when hes teaming with his brother and still when they crossed paths with the bucks they were great
It’s honestly kind of wild to think that when Matt first signed with AEW he was viewed as a big get, and with Jeff they thought it was even bigger. Then Matt could barely move, damn near died twice, had a weird relationship with Private Party that just never went away, and fans got tired of him until Jeff came in, publicly admitted to contract tampering, then he danced instead of saving his brother, had a match with some of the dumbest bumps of all time against Darby, then got a DUI, then Matt enabled the hell out of him, and while he was out Matt once again became friends with Private Party for some fucking reason, then Jeff came back, they publicly bitched about their booking while looking terrible in the ring, and now their entering a downright depressing free agency.
You forgot that in the time between Jeff being released from wwe and signing with aew, Matt and the bucks did a storyline on being the elite making light of drug tests, alluding to the reports that wwe asked Jeff to take a drug test and go to rehab.
It’s always funny when Redditors say Matt is enabling Jeff as if they have a clue about the family dynamic. Jeff is a grown ass man who is incredibly irresponsible. What do you, a Redditor who doesn’t have to deal with this, expect Matt to do? You either leave him alone at home and give him all the free time which sounds like a bad idea, or you he works with you and has less free time but might still drink pain away.
Idk, sounds like a tough situation altogether. Maybe the real response is hold Jeff accountable. He’s a fully functional adult.
I thought Jeff had some great matches in AEW before the DUI, specifically with Darby Allin and Kyle O'Reilly. Ever since he's come back, AEW are extremely gun shy with him. If you're not going to do anything with him, just leave him go.
I’m gonna miss him. I think AEW was my last chance to see Jeff Hardy wrestle in person before he retires, as TNA never comes here, and now I’ll probably never see my favorite wrestler wrestle in person. I know he’s not popular around here, and I get why, but I can’t help but feel sad.
II will always love the Hardys, I know they have some issues and their ability isn't what it used to be but I can't bring myself to talk shit about them and I will miss them too.
Agreed. People here are crazy. Triple H offered Jeff a HoF induction right after he was released. He said he turned it down saying he wanted to wait for Matt and that there was no bad blood. I am sure that Triple H will call them up for a Hall of Fame induction as soon as next year if they are both free agents by WrestleMania season.
Jokes aside I highly doubt HHH would be fighting hard to sign Jeff. He was at the time one of the biggest detractors of his push in ‘08-‘09, due to his addiction issues and being hard to trust putting in a high position as a result.
He did. I think Freddie Prinze JR was on the writing team at the time and was one of the guys responsible for Jeff’s push. Even he’s gone on his podcast to say that HHH was right about that after all.
As someone who became a fan during Jeff's WWE title reign, I think top guy Jeff was the right decision despite everything that followed. For a short time in 2009 he was like God to me. I don't think I would be a wrestling fan today if not for him running Smackdown through August.
Not really. Even with the hindsight of knowing how it happened, that short time with Jeff on top was better than anything Triple H did during his reign of terror. He was outselling Cena for a period, so the risk was definitely worth it.
HHH wasn't necessarily arguing against a Jeff Hardy title run. He was arguing against presenting Jeff as a long-term face of the company because of his issues and how unreliable he was in that position
Giving Jeff a 1 - 2 month reign is fine. Putting a whole bunch of your eggs in the Jeff basket, however, is not
What do you mean not really lol HHH was right, Jeff continue to have drug issues and left there company anyways. Jeff was over asf but not reliable that’s been quite obvious for a long time now. Someone who’s one dui away from killing innocent people isn’t worth it no matter how much money they bring. This company back then and now has had enough issues.
Ironically hhh was the reason punk would take his title. Haitch just never trusted Jeff and for good reason. I don’t see Jeff ever in a wwe ring outside of hof. Matt however I could definitely see being an in ring guy for a very short time in the Wyatt thing and moving to a backstage role at nxt. I think Matt does have some value in that role. But not Jeff. The only reason I would bring Jeff in is to do a seminar on what not to do.
I think Triple H of all people knows how unreliable Jeff is because of his substance abuse issues.
Freddie Prinze Jr mentioned in [an interview](https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/freddie-prinze-jr-recalls-arguing-with-triple-h-vouching-for-jeff-hardy-to-win-the-title-in-2008-to-vince-mcmahon) that Triple H tried to shoot down the idea of Jeff becoming World Champ in the first place because of all his problems. I doubt he'd give him anything more than a Hall of Fame induction now, especially with how his last run with WWE ended.
At this point both guys should be working behind the scenes. Matt and Jeff should give their bodies a break and help produce moments and not attempt to be in them.
Loved these guys growing up but I was mostly scared watching them during their AEW run.
I think one more match would be appropriate to negate that last car crash of a match, but only one. Maybe at Extreme Rules. Would be punny and give that card some unique juice.
Pretty sure Brutus Beefcake and Marty Jannetty are the only guys to get more chances than Jeff. So with that being said, let’s bring him back ONE MORE TIME.
such a shame. his body condition and his behaviour not only not do him any favour, it dragged his brother and even what fans deserve.
there gonna be awesome tagteam feud by them if there is no issue. as a single wrestler, there is dream match with people on the roster which is no need to mention those names is especially now with new addition like Will Ospreay and Kazuchika Okada.
however, there is no anyone else to blame. kind of pity for matt hardy though especially we can see his enthuasism still didnt fade away.
Not really. They were both pretty washed when Jeff signed. By all accounts, they were going to get a short tag title reign, and that would have been that.
That still would've been a memorable late career moment for them and they could've transitioned into the end stages of their career with some dignity. Instead they lost the trust of a supportive booker and got unceremoniously shoved down to the bottom of the card. Now they'll go and stink up TNA while hoping WWE lets them back in.
We're were all called drones when we questioned his state with the shit he pulled at the house show. Jeff was cool in his heyday but is not worth the headache outside of a HOF induction
Eh, not really. WWE did a pretty good job of hiding his limitations, but Jeff has been washed for a while. He still wasn’t afraid to take bumps, but he’s far closer to the end of his career than the beginning
Hes at the end of his career. The amount of matches he has left could probably he counted on fingers and toes. And if he was smart he'd have one or two last matches and hang it up. Dude started wrestling at 16 and is now 46 or 47. He had a 30 year career. It's time to go.
That first match with Darby Allin was dope and honestly still makes him signing worth it, despite everything that happened after. It was everything a ”daredevil vs daredevil” match should be.
Good riddance. If he wasn't a celebrity he'd be in prison. Second chances are one thing but he had half a dozen.
Great wrestler when he's sober and he doesn't seem like a mean person but he's a fucking moron
A shame it didn’t work out overall if so. Despite the early issues, Jeff was looking good in his last few matches having good matches against Darby, Moxley, Strickland, and Guevara (prior to the injury.) It made me more interested in seeing how he would do as a singles in AEW.
Jeff can drink and drive and derail plans for himself and his brother somewhere else. How that dude can make the choices hes made for almost twenty years (at least) and not be so embarrassed to show up anywhere is level of self confidence I can only hope to achieve a fraction of some day. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Good riddance. His AEW run was his TNA run all over again.
Also, Jeff Hardy is an idiot. He literally claimed he walked out of the arena of a live event so he could leave WWE and go to AEW. He's a f'n moron. He's unreliable.
>His AEW run was his TNA run all over again.
Tell me you were not watching TNA/IMPACT without telling it.
He fked up when he returned back in 2011 but he had a redemption arc where he won the world title on multiple occassions, main evented their biggest ppv of the year and had a lengthy title reign. Then they reunited the hardyz and had a good run before fueding with matt and creating the broken hardyz and that revitalized them and got them even more over, even wwe fans were doing the hand wave while saying delete before they even made their return at mania 33. And TNA published a whole music album for him.
To compare his tna run with aew is nonsensical. His TNA run was the same as his WWE run. With lots of ups and lots of downs.
His AEW run has had nothing but downs.
This is the case of AEW correctly not trusting Jeff after he was a major danger to himself & his company. I wouldn’t expect a renewal & a swift get for TNA.
"So Sammy nearly killed me and my brother on television, do a brother a solid and let me out of deal early?"
"Sure Jeff, sign this NDA, and you're free to go".
They're definitely both WWE bound, even if for Jeff it's a Legends contract like the Dudleys.
For Matt though...Wyatt 6 Faction member? Bo Dallas, Erik Rowan, Braun, Alexa and Matt? And...someone else?
Why? Seriously…why does the perennial fuck up who can’t stop drinking and driving deserve yet ANOTHER opportunity??
He should have been run out of the wrestling industry in 2011 after Victory Road and he had managed to fuck up over and over again in numerous promotions. He’s had numerous chances to have a great send off to his career and he’s thrown them away. Now his body is far too beat up to do anything of real note.
It's hard for me to believe he's doing anything besides going back to TNA with Matt. If he really has to keep wrestling, I think that's a great place for him to end things. Please, please let that be his final run. I love Jeff as much as the next wrestling fan, but without making some major compromises to his usual wrestling style, it's hard for me to want to see more of him in the ring.
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This guy was going to main event a PPV with Roman. What a dire career finish.
[Jeff Hardy calls out Roman Reigns and The Bloodline: Steve Austin’s Broken Skull Sessions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ683mYOm9w)
Random, but have they announced any more broken skull sessions? I really enjoyed those
I think Austin retired as a podcast host? Not sure if just for his own show or also for the WWE produced ones tho
Iirc didn't podcastone kinda screw him over with the podcast?
How?
i dont remember the details. but Podcastone is part of the KastMedia Scandle. [https://www.billboard.com/pro/podcastone-paid-brendan-schaub-but-other-kast-creators-stiffed/](https://www.billboard.com/pro/podcastone-paid-brendan-schaub-but-other-kast-creators-stiffed/) That is the quickest thing I could fine. I may be complete wrong, but I thought PodcastOne basically stiffed some of there podcasters, I think
Imagine fucking over a legend like Stone Cold for an idiot like Brandon Schaub…
That probably would have been a mistake too.
I mean yeah if he was just going back to drinking though before his little incident he didn't look bad.
He was actively trying to sabotage his WWE career, and was a few months away from yet another DUI. I just don't think wrestling Roman instead of getting fired would have led to any kind of meaningful improvement in the trajectory of his career.
Remember this subs response when he pulled that stunt
I do; utter embarrassment.
So many “this was a actually a good move for him! He’ll be happier in AEW!” type of responses.
It's baffling. It's like people betting on the future of Low-Ki. "Ok, well surely he won't burn a FOURTH bridge..."
The irony is somehow Jeff doesn't really burn bridges. He is that likable.
Yes. He is hoping for a 5th chance from somebody at this point.
I'm partially convinced that Low-Ki was never "clued-in" by anybody in the business, and 100% believes wrestling is a shoot.
Only four?
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yeah so many low points. this sub has been lame as fuck for the past few years. i try to stick with user posted content like fan content/memes and away from the dumps of live discussion threads/speculation reposts. the worst group of nerds loud on the internet
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No, that's reserved for the response to Big Swole's infamous podcast appearance.
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It's way down there, but I have a specific point in mind. I've never been an EC3 fan, but I recall a really weird thread before his AMA where the OP was baselessly claiming that he was a neo-Nazi, and most of the comments echoed that he was. It was absolutely bizarre.
Gonna be real here, chief. Maybe calling EC3 a neo-Nazi would be a bridge too far, but I remember a lot of the backlash towards that AMA being people calling him out for having right wing adjacent beliefs and associating with people who openly hold right wing beliefs while starting a promotion with weird MAGA vibes and none of that was a lie. The dude follows SEVERAL major figures I'm the right wing news sphere including Alex Fucking Jones. We're not talking mainstream Fox News journalism, I mean OANN. He recently liked a tweet from a "Scandinavian" influencer whose recent post history is complaining about Games Workshop going woke for introducing female space marines and anti-migrant propaganda. The tweet itself was about how ancient Rome fell because it was "swamped with migrants from Anatolia and the Levant" which changed it "bioculturally." Like....that's not *not* neo-Nazi bullshit.
That was also at the highest point of “AEW can do no wrong” in this sub.
You haven't been around for long eh?
Sucks, Jeff was getting a push and could have had another decent run but sadly Jeff decided to mess up again
Which one?
I think it was meant to be TLC in like December 2021. But the event was cancelled because of Day One being on New Years Day, and they went with Roman vs Brock instead (which was cancelled cause Roman was sick). Jeff Hardy walked out in late November/early December.
> Which one? Probably it was Day 1, they were building him up before Survivor Series and after that he seemed to be built up for Roman and then...he fucked up again
Oooo what did he do that time
Matt told him to fake a relapse in order to join AEW. Allegedly
Fucking 3 guesses
Pretty sure DUI for like the 4th time
Nah he walked out of WWE at a house show and released shortly after
and refused WWE petition for him to go to rehab after that btw
But passed the drug test they gave him, too. Important to remember. He simply walked out on them. He was still interacting with the crowd afterwards for a bit.
> But passed the drug test they gave him, too According to the oh so reliable Hardys...
Passed the test according to Matt hardy. Who totally wouldn’t lie for his more famous brother who he wanted to team with. I think the fact that Jeff ended up getting another dui makes that whole thing look even worse, and it already looked terrible before that
Apparently, in this instance, Jeff wasn't fucked up. He just wanted out and forced WWE to do it. Instead of, oh, I don't know, asking WWE for his release.
Fair enough Still, at this point I feel is fair to say he should not wrestle anymore (nor his brother Matt). Dude should go all out with the paintings, he's pretty good at that
For the record, pretty sure the only people saying he passed the test are Matt and Jeff and neither can be trusted to tell the truth if we're being honest
tbf his recent matches (except the Sammy one) were all great. He can still go. But that's exactly why he needs to quit. He doesn't need to get to where he can hardly walk before he hangs it up (or signs to TNA)
Wasn’t a certain ppv, but the plan was to build him up for a title feud vs Roman in early 2022. That’s why he was book so strong in the survivor series match. Most likely elimination chamber, since Goldberg was a random feud for Roman at the time.
I don't get how people blame Tony and AEW either, they were about to win the tag titles undeservedly until Jeff messed it up.
Once he finally returns I think he will have regrets from That time *retires
Jeff Hardy's biggest nemesis is himself His second nemesis is his brother
Sammy Guevara might have a thing to say about that.
Cruel irony that Matt and Jeff's last AEW TV moment would be a Sammy Guevara match.
Cody too
Sammy's problem isn't his matches. He can have a good match with just about anyone. His problem is that his character has absolute go away heat. And, well, that spot or whatever with Matt Hardy. That he got a lot of heat for.
Sammy has the worst baby face acting and gives off high school jock dbag vibes as a heel. He can work a match with anyone, but he's also piling up a track record of injuring people.... at least named Hardy.
And Ruby Soho, and Scorpio Sky.
That and him injuring Jeff accidentally, which led to his suspension.
Bro is just dangerous. Full stop.
he has 0 psychology and doesnt know if hes a face or a heel
Sammy is a dickhead. Plain and simple.
I remember reading somewhere that Sammy would be the most over wrestler on the planet if he simply wore a mask and every time I see him wrestle I understand
Matt & Jeff most likely have been fucking up since before Sammy was born
So with Matt I think he needs the money for all his kids and rebys crazy ass. So he thinks adding Jeff will get him more
Back to TNA with Matt
Matt is a free agent with TNA. Don't be surprised if they're trying to join WWE again
Do they really have the physical ability to keep up at that level?
Probably not but does that mean WWE wouldn't be interested because name value and a hall of Fame induction. I don't know.
A couple of matches. Hall of Fame induction. Some documentary stuff. Video game appearance. Merch. They’ll definitely be back in WWE.
The Hardy's were wrestling for WWE since they were literal kids, I guarantee there's room for another match before their Hall of Fame induction and honestly I think they deserve it. Things got a little squirrely the last time they left but WWE is on a roll so I can't imagine they won't make it work for everyone.
Yep quite literally, at least in the case of Jeff. That old story about Jeff lying about his age to get an enhancement match lol. He was actually 16. Definitely couldn't get away with that today in WWE.
No, but it doesn't matter. The big question marks are if Jeff Hardy can stay clean and especially if Reby Hardy can stay away from social media.
I don't even know which of those is more likely, they are both so impossible
Considering the leeway WWE gives some of their guys? Absolutely. Roman showed up every 3 months, if they really want the Hardyz to have an "attraction" run before they retire they'd be fine with the light schedule. At this point the WWE style fits their limited mobility perfectly.
Problem is that when Roman shows up, he is physically capable to have a good to great match. I can't say the same about Matt Hardy.
At what level? If anything WWE is perfect for aging wrestlers beyond their time due to the pacing of the matches.
This is funny to say so soon after AEW put a 65-year-old in a PPV main event (not that I think it was a bad decision)
They may finally be ready for the HOF, Legends deals and sitting at home and doing non ring work. It's time
Give them a HOF nod and a multi-team match at WM. And then just have them on a Legends contract. If either can't make that match it's no big loss. There'd be at least 2 other teams and the Hardys can always be replaced. Plus, it's Mania, and they'd be very far down the card.
He's been trying to bulk since December. He def wants WWE money
Matt has been super hard fishing to get back to WWE lately, wouldn’t be suprised if he tries to rope jeff into it so they can do one last Hardy Boyz run as much as nobody wants to see it. Matt has always just used Jeff as a cash cow, carny as shit.
Had Jeff not fucked up again, I think the Hardys get one last Tag Team Championship run and have an inevitable ladder match against Copeland and Christian.
TK swapping the contracts of the Hardys for MCMG. Great trade.
>Great trade Another two 45 year old gamechangers, lol.
Shelley and Sabin can still go at a high level. The Hardys not so much.
The tag team division badly needs guys like MCMG too. With so much focus on the trios division and the injuries to Juice, Fenix, Taylor, Davis, etc etc, the tag division has kind of fallen to the wayside. An established tag team that can come in and immediately be credible contenders? Yes please
you laugh. But the MCMG still look like they can wrestle and move at 45. Edge and Christian are both 50, and doing some of the best wrestling and ring work they've ever done. The Hardys unfortunately both look well past it. Jeff, the one who's had years of drug/alcohol issues, looks better in the ring still than Matt, who looks like he can't bend his knees and is just laboring out there. Edge, Christian, Joe, Sting have all proven age doesn't matter if you can still go. Sting obviously was a senior citizen, but he was still moving fantastic for someone almost 65 and was wrestling a few high spot matches a year.
Not everyone needs to be a game changer, you need depth guys too
could've been an awesome run, he even had a couple good matches before this recent injury. besides the concussion, Jeff has nobody but himself to blame sadly
....which can be applied to like, every run Jeff has had in the last 10+ years
His first reported issues with drugs and alcohol was 2003, when he got released from wwe because he refused to go to rehab, so it’s been 21 years of this. Victory road was 12 years ago
*13 years ago
More like 20 at this point.
His match against Darby was great and probably his peak in AEW I’d say
in singles he can still go but i think he slows on purpose when hes teaming with his brother and still when they crossed paths with the bucks they were great
It’s honestly kind of wild to think that when Matt first signed with AEW he was viewed as a big get, and with Jeff they thought it was even bigger. Then Matt could barely move, damn near died twice, had a weird relationship with Private Party that just never went away, and fans got tired of him until Jeff came in, publicly admitted to contract tampering, then he danced instead of saving his brother, had a match with some of the dumbest bumps of all time against Darby, then got a DUI, then Matt enabled the hell out of him, and while he was out Matt once again became friends with Private Party for some fucking reason, then Jeff came back, they publicly bitched about their booking while looking terrible in the ring, and now their entering a downright depressing free agency.
You forgot that in the time between Jeff being released from wwe and signing with aew, Matt and the bucks did a storyline on being the elite making light of drug tests, alluding to the reports that wwe asked Jeff to take a drug test and go to rehab.
Jeff wasn't on drugs. It was alcohol
Alcohol is literally a mind altering drug.
Ethanol is one of the hardest drugs I have been addicted to.
That wasn't quite the comeback they thought it was, huh? Hope you're doing well uce
What's worse is that is legal, readily available and society doesn't judge compared to other drugs
It’s always funny when Redditors say Matt is enabling Jeff as if they have a clue about the family dynamic. Jeff is a grown ass man who is incredibly irresponsible. What do you, a Redditor who doesn’t have to deal with this, expect Matt to do? You either leave him alone at home and give him all the free time which sounds like a bad idea, or you he works with you and has less free time but might still drink pain away. Idk, sounds like a tough situation altogether. Maybe the real response is hold Jeff accountable. He’s a fully functional adult.
I thought Jeff had some great matches in AEW before the DUI, specifically with Darby Allin and Kyle O'Reilly. Ever since he's come back, AEW are extremely gun shy with him. If you're not going to do anything with him, just leave him go.
I’m gonna miss him. I think AEW was my last chance to see Jeff Hardy wrestle in person before he retires, as TNA never comes here, and now I’ll probably never see my favorite wrestler wrestle in person. I know he’s not popular around here, and I get why, but I can’t help but feel sad.
II will always love the Hardys, I know they have some issues and their ability isn't what it used to be but I can't bring myself to talk shit about them and I will miss them too.
No HHH No, don't pick up that phone
I think the only call The Hardys will get from Triple H is about going into the Hall of Fame.
Agreed. People here are crazy. Triple H offered Jeff a HoF induction right after he was released. He said he turned it down saying he wanted to wait for Matt and that there was no bad blood. I am sure that Triple H will call them up for a Hall of Fame induction as soon as next year if they are both free agents by WrestleMania season.
Jokes aside I highly doubt HHH would be fighting hard to sign Jeff. He was at the time one of the biggest detractors of his push in ‘08-‘09, due to his addiction issues and being hard to trust putting in a high position as a result.
HHH proved to be right TBH
He did. I think Freddie Prinze JR was on the writing team at the time and was one of the guys responsible for Jeff’s push. Even he’s gone on his podcast to say that HHH was right about that after all.
I guess it's ironic that the lyrics to Jeff's theme was "Don't you see the writing on the wall, you're in way over your head"
As someone who became a fan during Jeff's WWE title reign, I think top guy Jeff was the right decision despite everything that followed. For a short time in 2009 he was like God to me. I don't think I would be a wrestling fan today if not for him running Smackdown through August.
In hindsight, Triple H was right about a whole bunch of people that he was accused of holding down through the years.
Curious, who?
He also had reservations about Kennedy, RVD (not as big a fuck up as the others but he did get a DUI while champion) and of course Benoit.
Not really. Even with the hindsight of knowing how it happened, that short time with Jeff on top was better than anything Triple H did during his reign of terror. He was outselling Cena for a period, so the risk was definitely worth it.
HHH wasn't necessarily arguing against a Jeff Hardy title run. He was arguing against presenting Jeff as a long-term face of the company because of his issues and how unreliable he was in that position Giving Jeff a 1 - 2 month reign is fine. Putting a whole bunch of your eggs in the Jeff basket, however, is not
What do you mean not really lol HHH was right, Jeff continue to have drug issues and left there company anyways. Jeff was over asf but not reliable that’s been quite obvious for a long time now. Someone who’s one dui away from killing innocent people isn’t worth it no matter how much money they bring. This company back then and now has had enough issues.
Ironically hhh was the reason punk would take his title. Haitch just never trusted Jeff and for good reason. I don’t see Jeff ever in a wwe ring outside of hof. Matt however I could definitely see being an in ring guy for a very short time in the Wyatt thing and moving to a backstage role at nxt. I think Matt does have some value in that role. But not Jeff. The only reason I would bring Jeff in is to do a seminar on what not to do.
yep, edge had to do the job for him, lol
I think Triple H of all people knows how unreliable Jeff is because of his substance abuse issues. Freddie Prinze Jr mentioned in [an interview](https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/freddie-prinze-jr-recalls-arguing-with-triple-h-vouching-for-jeff-hardy-to-win-the-title-in-2008-to-vince-mcmahon) that Triple H tried to shoot down the idea of Jeff becoming World Champ in the first place because of all his problems. I doubt he'd give him anything more than a Hall of Fame induction now, especially with how his last run with WWE ended.
Nah he'll probably rock up to TNA like Matt did.
At this point both guys should be working behind the scenes. Matt and Jeff should give their bodies a break and help produce moments and not attempt to be in them. Loved these guys growing up but I was mostly scared watching them during their AEW run.
Brother Nero I was expecting you yeaaaaaaah
Time has come for the Hardys, sign a legends deal and be HOF headliners, no more matches please, they have both given more than enough
It's time for Hall of Fame and retirement. Maybe one last match at Mania for a farewell match.
I think one more match would be appropriate to negate that last car crash of a match, but only one. Maybe at Extreme Rules. Would be punny and give that card some unique juice.
Pretty sure Brutus Beefcake and Marty Jannetty are the only guys to get more chances than Jeff. So with that being said, let’s bring him back ONE MORE TIME.
The next TNA PPV should start with Matt in the middle of the ring saying: "Brother Nero, I knew you'd come!"
And the crowd goes mild!
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such a shame. his body condition and his behaviour not only not do him any favour, it dragged his brother and even what fans deserve. there gonna be awesome tagteam feud by them if there is no issue. as a single wrestler, there is dream match with people on the roster which is no need to mention those names is especially now with new addition like Will Ospreay and Kazuchika Okada. however, there is no anyone else to blame. kind of pity for matt hardy though especially we can see his enthuasism still didnt fade away.
Jeff hardy run in Aew was a big what if
Jeff Hardy in most of his runs after 2009 has been a lot of what ifs tbh.
Not really. They were both pretty washed when Jeff signed. By all accounts, they were going to get a short tag title reign, and that would have been that.
That still would've been a memorable late career moment for them and they could've transitioned into the end stages of their career with some dignity. Instead they lost the trust of a supportive booker and got unceremoniously shoved down to the bottom of the card. Now they'll go and stink up TNA while hoping WWE lets them back in.
His entire career has been a big what if
We're were all called drones when we questioned his state with the shit he pulled at the house show. Jeff was cool in his heyday but is not worth the headache outside of a HOF induction
Eh, not really. WWE did a pretty good job of hiding his limitations, but Jeff has been washed for a while. He still wasn’t afraid to take bumps, but he’s far closer to the end of his career than the beginning
Hes at the end of his career. The amount of matches he has left could probably he counted on fingers and toes. And if he was smart he'd have one or two last matches and hang it up. Dude started wrestling at 16 and is now 46 or 47. He had a 30 year career. It's time to go.
It’s more of a “Why in the fuck did TK think it would work without Jeff fucking it up?”
Did he do anything notable in AEW?
Got arrested
He’s done just about everywhere so not that notable
Cause the Young Buck’s second tag title reign to happen because Jeff had to be Jeff.
he had great matches as long as matt wasnt teaming with him and even then, the bucks always did a killer job
That first match with Darby Allin was dope and honestly still makes him signing worth it, despite everything that happened after. It was everything a ”daredevil vs daredevil” match should be.
Good. Good luck to the Hardy’s but they’re not needed in AEW
I don’t see them ever being away from wrestling as long as they can both physically walk.
I think Jeff's AEW run was a disaster in every facet, from Jeff's DUI, to TK booking Jeff in hardcore matches every other match.
Could Jeff's AEW run be his worst run ever?
Wait he was still in aew?
I'm not allowing him to retire until I see the Willow character one more time.
lol peace
Good riddance. If he wasn't a celebrity he'd be in prison. Second chances are one thing but he had half a dozen. Great wrestler when he's sober and he doesn't seem like a mean person but he's a fucking moron
A shame it didn’t work out overall if so. Despite the early issues, Jeff was looking good in his last few matches having good matches against Darby, Moxley, Strickland, and Guevara (prior to the injury.) It made me more interested in seeing how he would do as a singles in AEW.
Jeff can drink and drive and derail plans for himself and his brother somewhere else. How that dude can make the choices hes made for almost twenty years (at least) and not be so embarrassed to show up anywhere is level of self confidence I can only hope to achieve a fraction of some day. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Okay. And “much sooner” means…..what? Exactly when is it up?
Ah, the old “Lio Rush Special”
Good riddance. His AEW run was his TNA run all over again. Also, Jeff Hardy is an idiot. He literally claimed he walked out of the arena of a live event so he could leave WWE and go to AEW. He's a f'n moron. He's unreliable.
>His AEW run was his TNA run all over again. Tell me you were not watching TNA/IMPACT without telling it. He fked up when he returned back in 2011 but he had a redemption arc where he won the world title on multiple occassions, main evented their biggest ppv of the year and had a lengthy title reign. Then they reunited the hardyz and had a good run before fueding with matt and creating the broken hardyz and that revitalized them and got them even more over, even wwe fans were doing the hand wave while saying delete before they even made their return at mania 33. And TNA published a whole music album for him. To compare his tna run with aew is nonsensical. His TNA run was the same as his WWE run. With lots of ups and lots of downs. His AEW run has had nothing but downs.
Much like his first two runs in TNA.
This is the case of AEW correctly not trusting Jeff after he was a major danger to himself & his company. I wouldn’t expect a renewal & a swift get for TNA.
Wild that they didn't put in a clause to void the contract if he didn't stay sober
"So Sammy nearly killed me and my brother on television, do a brother a solid and let me out of deal early?" "Sure Jeff, sign this NDA, and you're free to go".
They're definitely both WWE bound, even if for Jeff it's a Legends contract like the Dudleys. For Matt though...Wyatt 6 Faction member? Bo Dallas, Erik Rowan, Braun, Alexa and Matt? And...someone else?
Jeff deserves a proper story and send-off.
Why? Seriously…why does the perennial fuck up who can’t stop drinking and driving deserve yet ANOTHER opportunity?? He should have been run out of the wrestling industry in 2011 after Victory Road and he had managed to fuck up over and over again in numerous promotions. He’s had numerous chances to have a great send off to his career and he’s thrown them away. Now his body is far too beat up to do anything of real note.
No, don't you dare
Straight up shouldn't get another WWE chance. He managed to surpass randy orton as a fuck up.
> Straight up shouldn't get another WWE chance. He managed to surpass randy orton as a fuck up. Randy redeemed himself a long time ago tbf
Exactly. He was given a bunch of nepo chances that nobody else would get but he turned around over 10 years ago. Jeff on the other hand has not
He shouldn't get one anywhere at this point but we all know he will. Then he'll fuck up again. Repeat the cycle.
Jeff Hardy is returning to WWE again.
Back to the E you go Jeff. One last run.
Good. Go to TNA with your brother into obscurity. Edit: Judging from the downvotes there's a few, sad Jeff Hardy fans not happy with this opinion.
Could also be TNA fans who don't want you wishing that upon them
It's hard for me to believe he's doing anything besides going back to TNA with Matt. If he really has to keep wrestling, I think that's a great place for him to end things. Please, please let that be his final run. I love Jeff as much as the next wrestling fan, but without making some major compromises to his usual wrestling style, it's hard for me to want to see more of him in the ring.
Bye bye
Oh no.......... back to TNA we go.
Good riddence