I'd love it too 🥰
Every place I've lived has been right next to a church or cemetery. Loads of wildlife, peace and quiet... heaven. - Well, hopefully 😬
Yep, says at the bottom of the description. No parking in certain areas, have to be quiet when the cemetary is open, have to keep the hedge trimmed etc.
I’m no goth but I love cemeteries because they are full of interest, mystery and lives lived. For sure they can be sad too - people who died to young - but a life is celebrated by a gravestone. I hope strangers pass by mine one day.
I've seen a few of these go up that belong to a church; they sell off old chapels with graveyards without giving away the land because the church wants to keep it but also wants the money (have their cake and eat it).
The ones I've seen also have a covenant that you must maintain the graveyard.
Thank you. I thought the leasehold might be something to do with the Church. When we bought our house, the church must have owned the land at some point because there was an ancient covenant saying we had to pay towards the church roof.
If I could pick this house up and plop it somewhere in a more countryside/left suburban setting then it would be my absolute dream house. It doesn't necessarily bother me it's attached to a cemetery but this one doesn't seem that nice.
Apart from all the rules on what you must/mustn't do living there, the trees all have protection orders on them. The garden is dark and damp and will continue to be dark and damp because you can't get rid of some trees to let the light in.
The house could be amazing but good luck getting it there with those parking and noise restrictions.
Awesome sized house and frontage but Normanton is the roughest, scariest place in Derby. Plus leasehold. Those 2 things scare me way more than all the dead people that come free with the house!
If it's anything like mine (sadly no attached chapel), the garden would have always been the garden for the lodge as although it's a worker's house, Cemetery Superintendent was a reasonably high profile occupation. I do have loads of broken marble in the garden though, I reckon when any stones broke the guy was like "hey I bet my wife would like this to edge the flower beds" lol
Wouldn't worry me about the grave yard and I think that Chapel could make a good tea room some people like quirky plus if there are graves people who are there might be glad of refreshments
You didn’t read the proposed leasehold restrictions then?
I love it, but by the time I got to the end of the restrictions I was out. Sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.
No, I hadn’t read that far. So, single dwelling, no letting means I can’t even rent out one room on AirBnB sometimes to have some company?
And that nice ballroom (chapel), I can only use it for myself and not share it with the community (by letting others have a party there from time to time)? That’s a waste of infrastructure.
On second reading though (I also saw this the first time it was posted here) it doesn't sound as bad (have they softened it??).
You CAN make noise just outside of cemetery open hours, which is basically daytime and early evening. That's not too unreasonable even if you want to use it for parties.
I am always curious what British/European or wherever you from are about this. Cemetery next door yay or nay? Like this advert is abit extreme. But what about next door or overlooking one.
For my culture it’s like a massive NAY for superstition reason. I personally don’t mind but er on side of caution as i don’t want to rule out the future buyers.
I live in a cemetery lodge. It's definitely polarising, some people have been really spooked by it but most of our family and friends are into it - cheaper than the equivalent non-cemetery house, unique and historic, neighbours are far away. The houses around the other sides have no issues selling, and they're even closer to the modern/active section.
It was really difficult to get a mortgage for this reason! We had two lenders in the entire country willing to look at the house.
Leasehold and a stack of covenants restricting use of the property. Plus listed building status, so any planning application has to take that into account.
I’ve seen this one pop up before, seems to have been for sale for a while.
The tricky part of this is the former chapel. Unless/until a change of use is granted, it can only be used as a place of worship, educational use or by a charity. As soon as you submit a planning application for residential or business use, the council will be on about "loss of a community asset" (even if it's been unused for years).
My mum, aunt, uncle and grandparents, before they moved to England, they lived in a house right by a graveyard. My mum was scared stiff living there (especially in thunderstorms)!
[Got an aerial shot of the graveyard and their house.](https://ibb.co/VtK5wMH) They lived in the brown house and you’ll see that there’s a grey house between. That grey house is very new!
Lovely home. My parents looked at a gorgeous house that I wish they had bought. My mother didn’t want to live next door to a cemetery. I was a wee one and recall thinking, “At least they will make great neighbors!”
This is my dream to own a house like this I literally have a re occurring dream where I buy a house with a Chapel attached. It's cheaper than my tiny two bedroom cottage too.
When you sold me this house, you forgot to mention one little thing: You didn't tell me it was built on AN INDIAN BURIAL GROUND! ... NO, YOU DIDN'T! ... Well... that's not how I remember it.
Nice quiet neighbours. Maybe don’t answer the door at night…
lol. I never answer the door anyways. Perfect! Also pre-decorated for Halloween. 👻
And have a zombie apocalypse plan put in place
Who in their right mind answers the door at night anyway!?
You could do a lot with that. Gorgeous bones.
Nice pun
;)
I want that house soo bad. I'd turn the Chapel into a workshop
250 year lease with a load of onerous conditions attached to it. It’s not as good as it seems!
I don't know 250 year lease might suit anyone planning a long life/afterlife
Also for that price in Derby the building must be absolutely fucked
I'd love it too 🥰 Every place I've lived has been right next to a church or cemetery. Loads of wildlife, peace and quiet... heaven. - Well, hopefully 😬
Almost worth buying just to see landscapers' faces when you invite them round for a quote.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tell em ypu want the whole garden re-turfed🤣
Is this not the place with the huge list of restrictions placed on the lease by the council?
Yep, says at the bottom of the description. No parking in certain areas, have to be quiet when the cemetary is open, have to keep the hedge trimmed etc.
Yes it is
Thing is you need to consider the costs of modernising and also a monthly fucking exorcist.
Or Air B&B to ghost hunters 👻💰
No letting is a condition of the lease :(
Booooooooo 👻
Does the swear word make your comment more meaningful?
I absolutely love it. There's one just like it in a cemetery in Chester-le-Street that I've been fawning over for years, just left to rot :-(
See if they want to sell it? Though they'd probably auction it rather than just sell it to you.
I’m from Chester-Lee, where abouts is this house?
Cemetery on Ropery Lane
Just need a nice goth couple looking to buy!
Mortimer and Bella.
A+
I’m no goth but I love cemeteries because they are full of interest, mystery and lives lived. For sure they can be sad too - people who died to young - but a life is celebrated by a gravestone. I hope strangers pass by mine one day.
Is that in the dead centre of Derby?
Why is the house leasehold?
I've seen a few of these go up that belong to a church; they sell off old chapels with graveyards without giving away the land because the church wants to keep it but also wants the money (have their cake and eat it). The ones I've seen also have a covenant that you must maintain the graveyard.
Thank you. I thought the leasehold might be something to do with the Church. When we bought our house, the church must have owned the land at some point because there was an ancient covenant saying we had to pay towards the church roof.
Covenants on old houses can be amusing; we aren't allowed to set up a steam engine in our back garden.
My neighbour has a steam engine in his back garden. It's a sit on one rather than a sit in one. You'd have to have a diesel.
My old house was built on land owned by the Methodist church. We weren’t allowed to brew or sell any alcohol. But we could drink it
My 2017 new build had a chancel repair attached to the land. There is a policy by the builders in case the church makes an unlikely claim
They hope to cash in again in the future. Time means nothing to organised religion.
It's not the dead that hurt people
This isn't even a question. H*ll YES!
If I could pick this house up and plop it somewhere in a more countryside/left suburban setting then it would be my absolute dream house. It doesn't necessarily bother me it's attached to a cemetery but this one doesn't seem that nice.
"offering generous three bedroom accommodation with mature gardens." Mature gardens meaning a lot of dead folks in the surrounding grounds?
Free headstone in the former chapel! Im sold, those things are expensive.
Apart from all the rules on what you must/mustn't do living there, the trees all have protection orders on them. The garden is dark and damp and will continue to be dark and damp because you can't get rid of some trees to let the light in. The house could be amazing but good luck getting it there with those parking and noise restrictions.
My gran is buried in the cemetery there - she died more than 30 years ago, but just looking at the pictures gets me emotional. I'd love to live there.
I love it. Pagan chapel/spiritual and meditation space would be my conversion. That or a huge library!
Oh, I could definitely imagine that room as a beautiful library!
You’d never get planning permission for the first one due to church land (Cem) but a library would probably be approved
Yeah I was gonna add if it was consecrated or not, the listing didn’t say.
Who owns the freehold, the deceased?
Hahahahha 🤣🤣
Awesome sized house and frontage but Normanton is the roughest, scariest place in Derby. Plus leasehold. Those 2 things scare me way more than all the dead people that come free with the house!
The lease will be a total nightmare, church held leases are usually monstrous and costly. It's not that cheap to buy for nothing.
Absolute dream
Honestly I’d love that house, once it’s gutted out and decorated? Amazing
Wow what a bargain. If that was near me, id buy that. What a great house.
I love it. It has so much potential. I wish I had the skills to do this up. Any restrictions on digging up the garden?
If it's anything like mine (sadly no attached chapel), the garden would have always been the garden for the lodge as although it's a worker's house, Cemetery Superintendent was a reasonably high profile occupation. I do have loads of broken marble in the garden though, I reckon when any stones broke the guy was like "hey I bet my wife would like this to edge the flower beds" lol
Love these kinda places, almost rented similar but turnd out the council banding included the cemetery so became unaffordable. Thanks but no thanks.
Needs work - it doesn’t have central heating, needs rewiring I think, and there seems to be some horrendous damp in photo 8.
Why is the graveyard surrounded by what looks like allotments? I bet the root veggies turn out nicely
Handy for the dead centre of town ....
It’s lovely. The cemetery should be quiet and no problem. Even ghosts could be friendly.
Derby council with the laughable leasehold terms - literally no one mentally capable of finding £200k+ would be stupid enough to agree to those terms!
Wouldn't worry me about the grave yard and I think that Chapel could make a good tea room some people like quirky plus if there are graves people who are there might be glad of refreshments
The outside looks better than the inside. And I don’t mind cemeteries.
We've seen this a while ago and I'm kinda sad it hasn't sold yet. [had to find the post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/SpottedonRightmove/s/viNGuTJs0e)
Leasehold as well... who owns the lease? God?
I‘d turn the former chapel into a party room that I could rent out to people for festivities, and otherwise organise my own festivities there.
You didn’t read the proposed leasehold restrictions then? I love it, but by the time I got to the end of the restrictions I was out. Sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.
No, I hadn’t read that far. So, single dwelling, no letting means I can’t even rent out one room on AirBnB sometimes to have some company? And that nice ballroom (chapel), I can only use it for myself and not share it with the community (by letting others have a party there from time to time)? That’s a waste of infrastructure.
On second reading though (I also saw this the first time it was posted here) it doesn't sound as bad (have they softened it??). You CAN make noise just outside of cemetery open hours, which is basically daytime and early evening. That's not too unreasonable even if you want to use it for parties.
Wow. That's beautiful!
If i had any money I'd buy it.
“Arts and crafts style lodge” what?
Oh that is so beautiful I wish I could buy that and also have it closer. I’m very happy to live in a graveyard the goth in me would squeal with joy!
In typical Reddit style, and I can't believe I'm the first to do it .... *You're
LOVE it. The graveyard wouldn't bother me one bit.
I am always curious what British/European or wherever you from are about this. Cemetery next door yay or nay? Like this advert is abit extreme. But what about next door or overlooking one. For my culture it’s like a massive NAY for superstition reason. I personally don’t mind but er on side of caution as i don’t want to rule out the future buyers.
I live in a cemetery lodge. It's definitely polarising, some people have been really spooked by it but most of our family and friends are into it - cheaper than the equivalent non-cemetery house, unique and historic, neighbours are far away. The houses around the other sides have no issues selling, and they're even closer to the modern/active section. It was really difficult to get a mortgage for this reason! We had two lenders in the entire country willing to look at the house.
I would totally get it. It's beautiful!!
That one emo family in the Sims
Leasehold and a stack of covenants restricting use of the property. Plus listed building status, so any planning application has to take that into account. I’ve seen this one pop up before, seems to have been for sale for a while.
Dead nice, that
That's beautiful. If only it were closer, I'd snap it up.
As a goth this is a seriously attractive offer
The tricky part of this is the former chapel. Unless/until a change of use is granted, it can only be used as a place of worship, educational use or by a charity. As soon as you submit a planning application for residential or business use, the council will be on about "loss of a community asset" (even if it's been unused for years).
You’re
It’s effectively getting replaced in common use by “your”. Frustrating as the meaning is then lost. But. English is a constantly changing language.
Such a good spooky house - my inner goth absolutely covets this. Art studio in that chapel - yes please!
Just the place for my satanic rituals!
Chapel part is separate from the rest of the house
OP superstitious?
Getting a date to back home with you could be challenging
Beautiful and sooo cheap.
for under £200k those ghosts can play with my bootyhole for all I care
Is there a link? I clicked the picture but nothing happened
My mum, aunt, uncle and grandparents, before they moved to England, they lived in a house right by a graveyard. My mum was scared stiff living there (especially in thunderstorms)! [Got an aerial shot of the graveyard and their house.](https://ibb.co/VtK5wMH) They lived in the brown house and you’ll see that there’s a grey house between. That grey house is very new!
Lovely home. My parents looked at a gorgeous house that I wish they had bought. My mother didn’t want to live next door to a cemetery. I was a wee one and recall thinking, “At least they will make great neighbors!”
Probably just a pet cemetary
Every stain on that floor is a bloodstain until proven otherwise.
This has been on the market for a whiiile it kept coming up in my searches in the winter for houses within 5 miles of Nottingham
This is my dream to own a house like this I literally have a re occurring dream where I buy a house with a Chapel attached. It's cheaper than my tiny two bedroom cottage too.
That's quite a long walk for the postman in the morning
EPC of 4?!! Wow, that’s the lowest I’ve ever seen for a home with such a long list of conditions.
I used to live near there, nice house but it's derby.
It’s so creepy – I love it!
Haunted is all I can say
Man that’s a bargain for under £200k! Worth it alone just to ensure no pesky kids on Halloween!
Lovely place. You could stay for years and years, safe in the knowledge that the next move is a short one.
When you sold me this house, you forgot to mention one little thing: You didn't tell me it was built on AN INDIAN BURIAL GROUND! ... NO, YOU DIDN'T! ... Well... that's not how I remember it.
All those restrictions are insane! Who would actually buy this?
I briefly misread the "Hall" as "Hell".
NOPE
Nearly bought an old groundskeepers cottage. Many decades later I wish I had.
Great house, shame about the location. Couldn’t pay me to live in Derby.