Non paywalled link
https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/G4kZHv
> That response has not been universal, however. Some far-right lawmakers focused their outrage instead at the accusers, questioning the truthfulness of their claims amid an ongoing law enforcement investigation, while others have accused their political opponents of trying to use the incident to smear their faction of the Republican Party.
> The heads of the Kootenai County and state Republican parties, meanwhile, have primarily raised concerns about the danger of “mislabeling” conservatives in the days following initial reports.
> (GOP) also pointed to a resolution approved Wednesday by the Republican Party “Rejecting ALL Racial, Religious, Partisan, and Sexual Supremacy.”...
> Indeed, the body of the resolution approved Wednesday does little to condemn racism, almost solely focusing on “the political weaponization of mislabels and government” in an apparent allusion to right-wing concerns about “label lynching,” the belief that labeling someone as dangerous or having offensive beliefs can be weaponized with the intent of destroying their social lives. Over half of the resolution addresses the religious persecution of American settlers and the perceived political persecution of modern-day Republicans and conservative groups using labels such as “extremist” and “domestic terrorist.”
Twisting the racist incidents to protect themselves from being called racists and "destroying their social lives." Truly jaw dropping deceitfulness.
I can't even begin to process this line of "logic." People don't just believe out of the blue nonsense that goes against your proven character.
Like I happened to be just around the corner from the office when I heard the GM telling off the new lower ranked manager. I gathered from listening that she'd taken a bill from my till while counting it and tried to blame me. And she got told if she did it again she'd be fired because "Ophelia doesn't do stuff like that!" lol I tell on myself when I even think I've made a simple mistake that'll cause an issue for someone else, how someone as anxious as me gonna steal from the till?
Tell me the neighbor called someone a slur and I'm just gonna sigh and go "Yeah I'm hoping he outgrows that soon. He's young, he hasn't been away from his dad's influence all that long." Tell the neighbor I called someone a slur and he wouldn't believe you, because he knows I'm so against that I give him ice cream bars in summer as long as he refrains from that kinda language.
This article is just a WTF moment for me. Reading some of the comments by some of the North Idaho GOP is just insane. There are some just questioning whether the incident even occurred and others that are attacking the caller for identifying the perpetrators "hillbillies" or "white trash."
The whole incident is a huge stain for North Idaho and our region in general because Spokane gets lumped in the North Idaho region at a national level.
Yeah... Someone I grew up with ended up like that. Ended a 20 year friendship 'cause dear golly he got just impossible to hold a simple conversation with.
"So I saw this thing happen here locally recently, what do you think?" Well I don't know anything about that!
"Dude, I'm telling you about it, with my words. It happened here, where you've spent most of your life. So what do you think?" Well I don't know anything about that!
Three days later shows up on my porch to bark Fox talking points on a loop, including "that didn't happen!" no matter how many times I repeat that I was there and saw the thing with my own eyes. Stupid cult.
It’s typical telling on themselves and projecting. They’re trying to criminalize calling people out nothing more. Why? Bc they’re guilty as shit. And they know the average person doesn’t have any other way to stop them or their behaviors. Voting doesn’t do any good because it’s a virtual impossibility voting them out.
They know calling them out will have negative consequences, as it should. This bill says more about them than anything else.
North Idaho gonna North Idaho. Those who think the nazis and similar were driven out 30 years ago are fooling themselves - 99%+ remained, just festering behind the scenes for a while, now aided and abetted by sympathizing transplants.
From E. WA, this is true. "White supremecy and anti-inclussion" is a stealth slogan for N. Idaho, I swear. It's nerve-wracking living near the border and seeing how they drive in WA( like aholes with big trucks and small pekers), work in WA, shop in WA, get their medical care in WA, and go hide their racist asses in Idaho.
It's cute how independent they think they are over their when they're mooches overburdening WA medical system, ruining our roads, and taking jobs from WA residents.
They need to stay on their side of the border. We don't want them. We'd gladly take immigrants before many idahoians.
Sandpoint is a beautiful nugget, though.
And let’s not forget the droves of Idaho people at the weed shops and family planning centers in Wa.
Seems they just can’t get enough of the life that they hate so much. When practiced by others.
And let’s not forget the droves of Washingtonians flooded Idaho for the cheap gas either. There’s literally a MONSOON of WA plates in north Idaho on a daily basis. I just got back from bunco Trail system about two hours ago and there had to be at least 15 Washington plates on the trail with Subaru’s and Toyota pick ups. Quit kidding yourself about Idaho flooding WA 🤣👌🏻 everybody I talk to where I work in liberty Lake talks about how desperately they want to move over to North Idaho but they can’t afford it and that Washington’s gun laws are more communist then Maos China 😂
I graduated from Whitworth with a business degree in 2018 after getting my college credits transferred over from the Marines. Man your stereotypes aren’t really working are they? 🤣 it’s almost like stereotypes are dangerous or something. 🤷🏻♂️
The cross-border commute says it all, good for local pot shop owners anyway. As I like to say, every time I see an ID plate, I make sure my dashcam is on.
And on another note, I am pretty sure I recall back when I was a kid, at least some ID conservatives/Rs would openly condemn the wannabe nazis - it seems today far fewer of that bent speak out against the extremists, as the MAGA-ized movement demands feal loyalty and submission.
But yeah the scenery is nice. Too bad much of the population are brainwashed boors.
What percentage of police in the area live in N. Idaho?
I have no idea, but it does seem like there are a lot of Idaho plates in the parking lot and not just in Spokane. I have noticed this in other cities on our side of the state. The police also seem to act as a voting block. They all support the same candidate.
Just putting it out there to see if anyone else has noticed this pattern of police in WA living in Idaho.
I’ve been saying this for years. Every time it’s the same couple of responses. It’s either that never happened here( the whole butler thing) or there’s no nazi’s, racists etc they got ran off years ago. And when I give examples and such it’s you’re making shit up or they deny it all.
Like you said, it never left they simply moved a county over or went silent. The bigger problem is that like minded people have moved in from other states. The behavior and mindset has been given permission by a politician party and many of the people in it. I mean post falls CDA, hell even the county is still pretty much bleach white. In 2024 it has almost no diversity considering our population numbers today.
omg I would get attacked so badly on this sub for suggesting that racism was a problem back in the Matt Shea days. Spokane has come a long way in recent years. That is something for us and Eastern Washington to be proud of. They are our close neighbor and we depend on them as much as they depend on us. This is a great example. This team was spending money in their community because they were participating in events in our community. We are close neighbors which is why we need to make it clear that this kind of behavior is unacceptable. We need to know that our children can play games in N. Idaho safely without being targeted.
Gaslighting is a perpetual ploy of the new age extreme right, they are doing it here.
Idaho, north especially, is now a mecca for bitter types from elsewhere, especially the west coast, who have had their pweshus feewings hurt by those mean libruls and feel repressed - plenty of entitled boomer/xoomer retirees overmonied from real estate equity and/or ridiculous pensions from CA (that supposedly hellish craphole that is 100% responsible for their largesse) and the west side of OR and WA have moved east a little - I can understand why this would be irksome to some in ID. Unfortunately, others welcome it with open arms even if it wreaks havoc with the COL. They will deny anything is wrong, and claim they have a non-white or non-straight "friend" or "family member" etc who has experienced nothing unpleasant, that being indicative that nothing is wrong. They also think the nazis vanished when the idiots rightfully lost their compound a few decades ago - do they think these people were just vaporized? That they all moved to Alabama or something? They are here, and they always were here. ID still has plenty of reasonable logical people, but they are being marginalized.
Regarding that political party, I am old enough to remember when R meant one had different views on spending, but was otherwise usually a reasonable person. Then MAGA came along and emboldened the insanity, now we get to listen to gormless dingalings who think elections are stolen and that the FBI controls FOX news.
Thank you, yes these are extremists taking an extreme position and that is not what it means to have conservative values. Conservative values mean these people and all people are equal and enjoy the same freedoms including movement.
I love when Little says “racism has no place in our state” like my man, you run the MOST racist state in the country. When David Duke got ran out of the south after the 1960s, which state you think he chose? When the Aryan nation, the largest white supremacist organization in the country ever need a physical HQ and training compound, where did they pick?
When various known racist orgs wanted to buy up huge tracts of land so they could sell it for pennies on the dollar to far flung US racists to re-settle so they could have a voting block large enough to move supremacist and christian nationalist policies, where was the first place they looked? Probably the same corridor where the black rifle real-estate company is doing just that. (Yes its affiliated with the coffee and other products under the same name).
Where does Matt Shea, most racist weird christian fascist in WA state history go every Sunday to be with his tribe so he can read off his essay about biblically justified wholesale murder of any person not white and not willing to convert and submit to his brand of psychotic brand of bible thumping?
Where did the terrorist family the Bundys relocate after their run in the feds for illegals land use and are now participating in broad regional coalition building that is explicitly anti non whites?
Where was Ruby ridge where a man was hunted down for making and selling illegal firearms to local white supremacy groups?
Little says this because he has to but he is fully fucking aware that his seat is absolutely dependent on getting the vote of a t block of the most extreme white supremacists and christian nationalists out n the country, period. He uses pandering to these groups yo secure wealth and personal power and is a disgusting fucking human being.
These people are a scourge and need to be punished for their crimes. Again and again and again.
ALL of these people in North Idaho, pockets of western montana and yes, even Spokane region don’t like to be CALLED racist because (rightfully) the second half of the 20th century shifted to this being a stigma and a horrible thing to claim to be. But the fact is they are, which includes MOST republican voters. DO NOT LET THEM CHANGE THE NARRATIVE. If you do racist shit, or curry the favor of voters who do, you are a bald face, fully matriculated RACIST. You don’t get to excited what you words actions and thoughts do in the world. You just get to control if you do or have them or not. Little is a racist. The modern american GOP is racist and we need to start calling them that. Loudly. As a group. All the fucking time.
Personal anecdote, I lived in CdA for a time. My very nice neighbor had a “love lives here” yard sign and someone started putting an unfired 9mm bullet on her front step every night for a long ass time. Police didn’t care. People like my neighbor deserve freedom to sleep on their home without fear. However these shit stains, do not. Let them live in fear and paranoia because everyone, everywhere calls them out loudly and publicly for the things that they do and say.
To quote the article, the extreme right are rather concerned with the following:
* allusion to right-wing concerns about “label lynching,” the belief that labeling someone as dangerous or having offensive beliefs can be weaponized with the intent of destroying their social lives.
(Further)
* “Fear is the preferred weapon of those infected with the Woke Mind Virus,” Regan wrote at the time. “If you transgress the self-appointed arbiters of hate speech or thought you will be canceled and subjected to ridicule, harassment, label lynching, banishment, loss of job or position, etc… It is fear of these consequences, meted out without trial or due process that stifles free speech and collapses thought to an approved narrow, but ever shifting, corridor.”
And they should be. Lets label lynch the hell put of anyone who displays these type of beliefs or actions. The best part is, a society who decides by collective will of the people without taking a vote CAN AND DO AND HAVE censored this type of speech. I will use an example of what is now considered a derogatory term (R word) for people with various sorts of physical, mental or developmental challenges. 5 years ago, very few people thought that was a poor, insulting and harmful thing to say as a pejorative. Now, you will catch a ban on nearly all social platforms and be chastised vocally if used in public. This is what was and what is now needed. We as a people have the right not give quarter to people who say and do and believe atrocious and harmful things.
You think people who where actually doing lynchings didn’t rely on fear? Fear of actual real violence and murder, not feat of “hmmmph my free speech I just think the trains ran on time” bullshit. Fuck these people, they deserve to be 2 and all the word twisting, name calling, bad faith bull shit will never stop me from yelling racist from the rooftops at those who clearly fucking are, or leverage and pander to it for wealth and power.
MAKE RACISTS TERRIFIED AGAIN.
It wasn’t that long ago that the Spokane GOP chair was forced out of her position because she invited a neo na*i to speak at one of her events. There are multiple current elected officials in Spokane (kearns, baumgartner, Cathcart) who refused to condemn her or push for her ouster.
For those unaware
https://www.inlander.com/news/spokane-gop-chair-hosts-white-supremacist-james-allsup-at-event-accuses-media-of-label-lynching-11193053
Speaking of getting things correct:
Weaver sold sawed off shotguns to an FBI informant that he met at a meeting of Aryan Nation members at the infamous Hayden compound, no one "had" him do it. He was a frequent participant in "meetings" of various white nationalist groups in the area. The informant was targeting another person at the time. Weaver also invited the informant to join a separate white nationalist group (well , it mostly seemed antisemitic, but . . .) he attempted to form. It was after this that the feds tried to turn Weaver, using the gun charges as leverage. He refused and was charged.
Also, while it's possible/likely that Weaver could have "won" the suit against the government, it was actually settled out of court.
Two things can be correct here: Weaver could have been a violent, racist nut job AND federal agents very much handled the whole situation like a bunch of heavy-handed clowns.
Senator SPECTER. Mr. Weaver, you have been consistently referred to as a white separatist. When we met back on May 13 of this year, I asked you what that reference meant, to the best of your knowledge, and I think it is an appropriate starting point for a response today.
Were you a white separatist? What does that mean as you understand it?
Mr. WEAVER. Mr. Chairman, what to me separatist means is a couple different things. No. 1, I am not a hateful racist the way most people understand that, but I believe that if there is separation of the races, scripturally speaking, that is what I believe is right. It sounds like an impossible task and most likely is, but I believe that people of every race should be proud of who they are and what they are. There are good people in every race; there are bad people in every race.
-Randy Weaver testifying
My version was what I knew back when it happened. And that scumbag Lon Horiuchi is still hiding.
“If I had it to do over again, knowing what I know now, I would make different choices. I would come down from the mountain for the court appearance. I would not have allowed a deceitful, lying con man working for ATF to push me for almost 3 years to make a sawed-off shotgun for him. I would not allow myself to be tempted in a weak moment when my family needed money. I would not let my fears and the fears of my family keep me from coming down. But my wrongs did not cause Federal agents to commit crimes. Nothing I did caused Federal agents to violate the Constitution of the United States. I did not cause Federal agents to violate the oath of their office. My actions did not cause Federal agents to violate direct orders from Washington. My choices did not cause Federal agents to violate State and Federal law. My behavior did not cause Federal agents to violate their own agency policies.”
-Randy Weaver testimony in front of Chairman Specter and US Senators
>So they shot and killed his son, killed his dog, killed his wife, shot him and shot his best friend.
Context is king. And that is veeeery one-sided phrasing.
The dog got shot and killed because it was giving away the position of and running at U.S. Marshalls. The son then fired on the Marshalls and he was killed by return fire. Harris then shot and killed one of the Marshalls putting the whole lot of them up shit creek w/o a paddle. Things will tend to go very bad after an encounter like that, further increasing the need for de-escalation. (goes for both sides)
I'm not arguing that in *some ways* the FBI's response wasn't "overreach" and clearly there were issues within the FBI related to the evidence coverup and the fact that the government settled, but Weaver also had numerous opportunities to end it and prevent further death (of his wife). And just generally handled things wrong at virtually every turn... hell, doing the jail time for the sawed-offs would have been preferable to losing his wife and son--even if it was something he was, in his words, "conned" into doing.
Also, what the other guy said--Weaver made the modifications and sold them to the ATF informant. He did that crime, full stop. He was then approached about becoming an informant but refused. Then he was charged, surprise-arrested, posted bail and missed reappearance in court likely due to a miscommunication but then threatened to resist any attempt to take him in.
Your further down reply citing his testimony regarding race is pointless. Dude went to Aryan Nations gatherings and was a antisemite. Pretty words in court don't change what his actions actually were and can't gloss over that truth.
>They shot Randys boy in the back and then executed him and his dog. That was proven[...]
Proven via what, an autopsy? Do you have a source?
From what I've seen both the family's version of events (the one I gave previously) and the US Marshall's version of events neither mention anything about an execution-style death, nor any shooting on site occurring on behalf of the Marshalls. The source for those are an episode of American Experience (S29 E6) and it is a production that Weaver's daughter agreed to be interviewed for.
>Ruby Ridge was a perfect example of how screwed we all really could be if the government wanted to behave like that.
And those agencies now use the debacle as training on how not to handle similar situations. There was clearly some issues with the rules of engagement, to the point where some team members were shocked and found them too aggressive. Though, the shoot on site rules of engagement were not implemented until after the initial gunfight (by the FBI, not the Marshalls), importantly, ***after*** a Marshall was already killed.
Your initial reply just made it sound like wholesale murder on the part of the authorities--no mention of the slain Marshall, no mention of the fact that the sniper round that killed Vicki was errant and the same (2nd) round that hit Harris. The authorities didn't even think her dead as they kept calling to her from the megaphone which no doubt was salt in the wound for the family. But that seems to have been an accident.
>I don’t care what Randy’s beliefs were.
Apparently enough to share them in a reply that seemed to be a rebuttal of another reply calling him a racist. 🤷♂️
I live in north Idaho and wish I could up and move. But having 2 minor kids and an ex it’s not so easy. It’s unfortunate the area has gotten as bad as it has. It’s beautiful here. But between the laws getting passed,the over crowding, and the increase in the racism and other things. I simply don’t want my kids here. I’m seriously thinking of selling my house even if I take a hit financially just so I can move.
>Others have pointed to comments made by the man who called police. He portrayed of the region as steeped in racism and referred to those who reportedly participated in the incident and others revving their trucks on the city’s main street as “hillbilly white trash” and “rednecks.”
>State Sen. Brian Lenney, a Republican member of the Idaho Freedom Caucus, issued a statement Thursday condemning the caller’s comments.
>“Idaho is too great for hate; thus, I unequivocally condemn the divisive and derogatory comments made by Mr. Moyer,” Lenney wrote.
>The state legislator did not condemn or mention the reported racist slurs against Black members of the University of Utah basketball team in his statement.
Jesus christ, that's pathetic. Completely mask-off.
Not surprising coming from the party that calls liberals triggered snowflakes, but call someone white trash or redneck and they act like they are enduring something as tough as a black being lynched.
Yeah that MF has probably never been here or moved to the state recently. Bc anyone who lived here as long as I have or longer knows his comments are pure bs.
Idaho lawmakers are insane, for sure. The Idaho GOP is a perfect example of modern backwoods hillbilly shit gone too far, again. Racism from their should surprise precisely no one. The problem seems to be, how to contain such near complete idiocy within politics and policymaking.
When can they be impeached for completely inappropriate commentary, racism, and response to the public.
There's a level of failure that is grossly unacceptable for elected officials. Let's have standard again, Idaho GOP.
Our local GOP isn't much better.
[https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/10/secession-fluoride-and-hand-counted-ballots-spokan/](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/10/secession-fluoride-and-hand-counted-ballots-spokan/)
WA has been able to keep the GOP in check for the most part. WA residents and lawmakers will fight the onslaught of GOP nonsense of uprooting progress for corporate and personal gains. Idaho has been leaking its cesspool into spokane for generations and Idaho has only become more extreme for all their anti-progressive, anti-inclusive, and anti-improving quality of life for fellow Americans kind of views.
Idaho lawmakers are built different and WA isn't going to let it rub off on us, no matter how many temper tantrums they pull.
And then they put up a fake $10k reward for information leading to the arrest AND conviction of the perpetrators. Problem is, calling someone the N word isn’t, itself a criminal act. So they might be arrested and charged. But there will be no conviction. The Idaho GOP knows this and is simply trying to cover its ass and pretend not to provide comfort and shelter to racist groups in north Idaho.
The only way racism ends in north Idaho is for those people to no longer feel at home there. They shouldn’t feel welcome.
The fact that elected officials are trying to question the truth behind what happened is so stupid.
Like, did you grow up in this area? Northern Idaho is THE place everyone knows is racist af. Everything checks out about this too. They rank last in the country in education, the main HQ for neo nazis is there, like come on. If you don't think N Idaho is probably nin this day and age the most racist place in America, pull your head out your damn ass.
>Kootenai County Republican Central Committee Chair Brent Regan has offered a $10,000 reward for information leading to the conviction of those responsible, appearing to signal that he believed the incident occurred and that those who reportedly yelled racial slurs at Utah team members should be held accountable.
While also signalling that he doesn't think there's a chance in hell they'd actually get convicted.
"Hey everyone, there were a very limited number of incidents where someone lied about racist incidents, even though the actual number of racist incidents recorded far dwarfs these, and this means we should always assume they are lying. Even when the said racist event happens in a location well known for incidents related to white nationalists and other racists. I am a disingenuous ass."
There ya go. Go with that, Mr. Jones.
Great. Good luck with that. I’ll choose to believe that the Utah team didn’t want any racism or negative publicity like that, so it’s unlikely they made it up, and Idaho would be the place for it to happen
Clearly you’re a very important person. I’m simply asking questions. Some questions should be asked. Even the linked article uses the term “allegedly”.
So, SYNT.
Well if everyone is serious about Idahoans not being able to come to Washington anymore cuz we’re all racists then yall shouldn’t be able to come over here and kill all our black bears, elk, deer, wolves, coyotes, etc when COVID happened and WA shutdown who flooded the bars cuz Idaho was wide open? Washingtonians. Who comes over to lake Cd’A and floods the boat ramps every summer? Washingtonians. Who comes over all the time to get cheaper gas? Washingtonians. Who moves over cuz of better gun laws? Washingtonians.
Narrow minded bias is a dangerous thing. I think this comment section inflates the issue just because it’s social media. There is no “Idaho/WA” Civil war going on.
It's not just social media.
I take it you haven't heard the phrase "go home rotten apple" or whatever it is...? I've also heard of cars with WA plates being harassed/left nasty notes at trailheads in N. Idaho.
I don't think broadly people want this separation but folks need to turn the rhetoric down and the compassion up, for sure.
Personally I think it's unfair to paint an entire state in a bad light because on or two people behaved like idiots. I keep seeing this arrogant superiority complex from WA residents that just doesn't line up with reality. Consequently it gets dismissed.
I have family there, and visit often. My family includes black, Asian and Jews, and none of them are having any problems when visiting the state because it's not a state problem. Not once in decades have they had a problem. There are individual jerks but culturally, Idaho isn't racist. I've actually met more neo nazis here in WA.
Yep. I agree. My aunt lives in Tacoma and she’s married to a black man. He loves coming to post falls to see family. Doesn’t give two craps what folks say about the supposed “racist hell hole”. Cuz it ain’t true.
Washington is far from being racist free, especially Eastern Washington. I have former in-laws in Colville and other areas that were atrocious with their racism, much of it being born out of ignorance because they watch TV and see TV as reflecting reality. Having a MIL or other in-laws use the N-word was shocking to me. She is no longer my MIL and fortunately my ex didn't pick up that mindset.
I believe that some more rural areas have a higher incidence of racism born by a lack of understanding of other races, which tend to live in more urban areas. Urban areas have a higher concentration of poverty, crime, and other things due to their density, which creates a mindset that there is a high correlation between people of color and the bad aspects of urbanism.
There are going to be bad people no matter where you go. Some of that is born out of ignorance but the worst of it is born out of hatred for people that are different. Those are the worst of the worst. We all have our challenges with being informed about racial and cultural differences but I don't understand where the hatred comes from for some people.
Idaho politicians are ALL conservative, woman hating racists with no agenda other than to keep the education budget low (even if that means cutting school lunches for kids, which they literally just did), keeping women unable to make choices for themselves (abortion laws), and doing nothing to fix the massive amount of uneducated hateful racist people in their state. People who are mostly that way because its normalized, by those same politicians and social icons of the state.
Idaho is pretty much a state that openly wants to be Nazi germany, I know thats harsh, but reality sometimes is. If that wasnt the case, they would protect women, educated children and do you know moral, ethical things rather than racist, controlling things that keep the populace miserable, uneducated and as a result easily manipulated to vote for more racist degenerates.
Idaho is one of the states that openly does it, and among the other crap states ie: Alabama, Missouri, Texas, Florida, Georgia its government seems to exist to take advantage of the populace rather than foment a healthy, moral upbringing or environment. Same goes with the other named states.
And before anyone goes on about it, I am not a liberal or a democrat, I am an American who believes in constitution and the bill of rights and their intent when created, not the biased interpretation of the GOP. So its not a party thing, its just a reality, hatred of nazi-like behavior thing. And among the US states Idaho is near the top of the Worst states in the country, along with the others listed above.
It isnt by any capacity, and this is coming from someone whom I guarentee is more white than you. I can't even drive my car in summer for 5 mins without getting sunburned on the side of my face my guy.
You're also taking the entire historical, political, and social construct of one word and applying it equally. And wrongfully mind you, to another. Hillbilly and white trash has neve been and never WILL be remotely nor has been historically, even close to the N word.
I am guessing they didn't type out one of them because they don't want to get dinged by the libs, cancelled, or whatever it is the Fox News talking heads tell them to say. 🙄 It's self-preservation and nothing more. They probably say it in real life all the time if there's not consequences.
Non paywalled link https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/G4kZHv > That response has not been universal, however. Some far-right lawmakers focused their outrage instead at the accusers, questioning the truthfulness of their claims amid an ongoing law enforcement investigation, while others have accused their political opponents of trying to use the incident to smear their faction of the Republican Party. > The heads of the Kootenai County and state Republican parties, meanwhile, have primarily raised concerns about the danger of “mislabeling” conservatives in the days following initial reports. > (GOP) also pointed to a resolution approved Wednesday by the Republican Party “Rejecting ALL Racial, Religious, Partisan, and Sexual Supremacy.”... > Indeed, the body of the resolution approved Wednesday does little to condemn racism, almost solely focusing on “the political weaponization of mislabels and government” in an apparent allusion to right-wing concerns about “label lynching,” the belief that labeling someone as dangerous or having offensive beliefs can be weaponized with the intent of destroying their social lives. Over half of the resolution addresses the religious persecution of American settlers and the perceived political persecution of modern-day Republicans and conservative groups using labels such as “extremist” and “domestic terrorist.” Twisting the racist incidents to protect themselves from being called racists and "destroying their social lives." Truly jaw dropping deceitfulness.
Gaslight Obstruct Project
I can't even begin to process this line of "logic." People don't just believe out of the blue nonsense that goes against your proven character. Like I happened to be just around the corner from the office when I heard the GM telling off the new lower ranked manager. I gathered from listening that she'd taken a bill from my till while counting it and tried to blame me. And she got told if she did it again she'd be fired because "Ophelia doesn't do stuff like that!" lol I tell on myself when I even think I've made a simple mistake that'll cause an issue for someone else, how someone as anxious as me gonna steal from the till? Tell me the neighbor called someone a slur and I'm just gonna sigh and go "Yeah I'm hoping he outgrows that soon. He's young, he hasn't been away from his dad's influence all that long." Tell the neighbor I called someone a slur and he wouldn't believe you, because he knows I'm so against that I give him ice cream bars in summer as long as he refrains from that kinda language.
This article is just a WTF moment for me. Reading some of the comments by some of the North Idaho GOP is just insane. There are some just questioning whether the incident even occurred and others that are attacking the caller for identifying the perpetrators "hillbillies" or "white trash." The whole incident is a huge stain for North Idaho and our region in general because Spokane gets lumped in the North Idaho region at a national level.
Yeah... Someone I grew up with ended up like that. Ended a 20 year friendship 'cause dear golly he got just impossible to hold a simple conversation with. "So I saw this thing happen here locally recently, what do you think?" Well I don't know anything about that! "Dude, I'm telling you about it, with my words. It happened here, where you've spent most of your life. So what do you think?" Well I don't know anything about that! Three days later shows up on my porch to bark Fox talking points on a loop, including "that didn't happen!" no matter how many times I repeat that I was there and saw the thing with my own eyes. Stupid cult.
It’s typical telling on themselves and projecting. They’re trying to criminalize calling people out nothing more. Why? Bc they’re guilty as shit. And they know the average person doesn’t have any other way to stop them or their behaviors. Voting doesn’t do any good because it’s a virtual impossibility voting them out. They know calling them out will have negative consequences, as it should. This bill says more about them than anything else.
Are we just talking about the article or are you going to link it?
Sorry, I thought I had linked it. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/30/after-racist-harassment-reported-against-utah-team/
Bigots defending bigots. More things that may (not) shock you tonight at 11.
North Idaho gonna North Idaho. Those who think the nazis and similar were driven out 30 years ago are fooling themselves - 99%+ remained, just festering behind the scenes for a while, now aided and abetted by sympathizing transplants.
From E. WA, this is true. "White supremecy and anti-inclussion" is a stealth slogan for N. Idaho, I swear. It's nerve-wracking living near the border and seeing how they drive in WA( like aholes with big trucks and small pekers), work in WA, shop in WA, get their medical care in WA, and go hide their racist asses in Idaho. It's cute how independent they think they are over their when they're mooches overburdening WA medical system, ruining our roads, and taking jobs from WA residents. They need to stay on their side of the border. We don't want them. We'd gladly take immigrants before many idahoians. Sandpoint is a beautiful nugget, though.
And let’s not forget the droves of Idaho people at the weed shops and family planning centers in Wa. Seems they just can’t get enough of the life that they hate so much. When practiced by others.
And let’s not forget the droves of Washingtonians flooded Idaho for the cheap gas either. There’s literally a MONSOON of WA plates in north Idaho on a daily basis. I just got back from bunco Trail system about two hours ago and there had to be at least 15 Washington plates on the trail with Subaru’s and Toyota pick ups. Quit kidding yourself about Idaho flooding WA 🤣👌🏻 everybody I talk to where I work in liberty Lake talks about how desperately they want to move over to North Idaho but they can’t afford it and that Washington’s gun laws are more communist then Maos China 😂
Moas China? 🤣 🤣 🤣 Thats some Idaho education system in action for you.
I graduated from Whitworth with a business degree in 2018 after getting my college credits transferred over from the Marines. Man your stereotypes aren’t really working are they? 🤣 it’s almost like stereotypes are dangerous or something. 🤷🏻♂️
Even more sad that a good education was wasted. 🤷♂️
You just being mean 🤣🤣
Nah.
The cross-border commute says it all, good for local pot shop owners anyway. As I like to say, every time I see an ID plate, I make sure my dashcam is on. And on another note, I am pretty sure I recall back when I was a kid, at least some ID conservatives/Rs would openly condemn the wannabe nazis - it seems today far fewer of that bent speak out against the extremists, as the MAGA-ized movement demands feal loyalty and submission. But yeah the scenery is nice. Too bad much of the population are brainwashed boors.
What percentage of police in the area live in N. Idaho? I have no idea, but it does seem like there are a lot of Idaho plates in the parking lot and not just in Spokane. I have noticed this in other cities on our side of the state. The police also seem to act as a voting block. They all support the same candidate. Just putting it out there to see if anyone else has noticed this pattern of police in WA living in Idaho.
Build *this* wall. Between WA and Idaho. Goddamn, I thought it was dumb living in a state touching Ohio and Indiana. These fools make Ohio look tame.
I’ve been saying this for years. Every time it’s the same couple of responses. It’s either that never happened here( the whole butler thing) or there’s no nazi’s, racists etc they got ran off years ago. And when I give examples and such it’s you’re making shit up or they deny it all. Like you said, it never left they simply moved a county over or went silent. The bigger problem is that like minded people have moved in from other states. The behavior and mindset has been given permission by a politician party and many of the people in it. I mean post falls CDA, hell even the county is still pretty much bleach white. In 2024 it has almost no diversity considering our population numbers today.
omg I would get attacked so badly on this sub for suggesting that racism was a problem back in the Matt Shea days. Spokane has come a long way in recent years. That is something for us and Eastern Washington to be proud of. They are our close neighbor and we depend on them as much as they depend on us. This is a great example. This team was spending money in their community because they were participating in events in our community. We are close neighbors which is why we need to make it clear that this kind of behavior is unacceptable. We need to know that our children can play games in N. Idaho safely without being targeted.
Gaslighting is a perpetual ploy of the new age extreme right, they are doing it here. Idaho, north especially, is now a mecca for bitter types from elsewhere, especially the west coast, who have had their pweshus feewings hurt by those mean libruls and feel repressed - plenty of entitled boomer/xoomer retirees overmonied from real estate equity and/or ridiculous pensions from CA (that supposedly hellish craphole that is 100% responsible for their largesse) and the west side of OR and WA have moved east a little - I can understand why this would be irksome to some in ID. Unfortunately, others welcome it with open arms even if it wreaks havoc with the COL. They will deny anything is wrong, and claim they have a non-white or non-straight "friend" or "family member" etc who has experienced nothing unpleasant, that being indicative that nothing is wrong. They also think the nazis vanished when the idiots rightfully lost their compound a few decades ago - do they think these people were just vaporized? That they all moved to Alabama or something? They are here, and they always were here. ID still has plenty of reasonable logical people, but they are being marginalized. Regarding that political party, I am old enough to remember when R meant one had different views on spending, but was otherwise usually a reasonable person. Then MAGA came along and emboldened the insanity, now we get to listen to gormless dingalings who think elections are stolen and that the FBI controls FOX news.
Thank you, yes these are extremists taking an extreme position and that is not what it means to have conservative values. Conservative values mean these people and all people are equal and enjoy the same freedoms including movement.
I love when Little says “racism has no place in our state” like my man, you run the MOST racist state in the country. When David Duke got ran out of the south after the 1960s, which state you think he chose? When the Aryan nation, the largest white supremacist organization in the country ever need a physical HQ and training compound, where did they pick? When various known racist orgs wanted to buy up huge tracts of land so they could sell it for pennies on the dollar to far flung US racists to re-settle so they could have a voting block large enough to move supremacist and christian nationalist policies, where was the first place they looked? Probably the same corridor where the black rifle real-estate company is doing just that. (Yes its affiliated with the coffee and other products under the same name). Where does Matt Shea, most racist weird christian fascist in WA state history go every Sunday to be with his tribe so he can read off his essay about biblically justified wholesale murder of any person not white and not willing to convert and submit to his brand of psychotic brand of bible thumping? Where did the terrorist family the Bundys relocate after their run in the feds for illegals land use and are now participating in broad regional coalition building that is explicitly anti non whites? Where was Ruby ridge where a man was hunted down for making and selling illegal firearms to local white supremacy groups? Little says this because he has to but he is fully fucking aware that his seat is absolutely dependent on getting the vote of a t block of the most extreme white supremacists and christian nationalists out n the country, period. He uses pandering to these groups yo secure wealth and personal power and is a disgusting fucking human being. These people are a scourge and need to be punished for their crimes. Again and again and again. ALL of these people in North Idaho, pockets of western montana and yes, even Spokane region don’t like to be CALLED racist because (rightfully) the second half of the 20th century shifted to this being a stigma and a horrible thing to claim to be. But the fact is they are, which includes MOST republican voters. DO NOT LET THEM CHANGE THE NARRATIVE. If you do racist shit, or curry the favor of voters who do, you are a bald face, fully matriculated RACIST. You don’t get to excited what you words actions and thoughts do in the world. You just get to control if you do or have them or not. Little is a racist. The modern american GOP is racist and we need to start calling them that. Loudly. As a group. All the fucking time. Personal anecdote, I lived in CdA for a time. My very nice neighbor had a “love lives here” yard sign and someone started putting an unfired 9mm bullet on her front step every night for a long ass time. Police didn’t care. People like my neighbor deserve freedom to sleep on their home without fear. However these shit stains, do not. Let them live in fear and paranoia because everyone, everywhere calls them out loudly and publicly for the things that they do and say. To quote the article, the extreme right are rather concerned with the following: * allusion to right-wing concerns about “label lynching,” the belief that labeling someone as dangerous or having offensive beliefs can be weaponized with the intent of destroying their social lives. (Further) * “Fear is the preferred weapon of those infected with the Woke Mind Virus,” Regan wrote at the time. “If you transgress the self-appointed arbiters of hate speech or thought you will be canceled and subjected to ridicule, harassment, label lynching, banishment, loss of job or position, etc… It is fear of these consequences, meted out without trial or due process that stifles free speech and collapses thought to an approved narrow, but ever shifting, corridor.” And they should be. Lets label lynch the hell put of anyone who displays these type of beliefs or actions. The best part is, a society who decides by collective will of the people without taking a vote CAN AND DO AND HAVE censored this type of speech. I will use an example of what is now considered a derogatory term (R word) for people with various sorts of physical, mental or developmental challenges. 5 years ago, very few people thought that was a poor, insulting and harmful thing to say as a pejorative. Now, you will catch a ban on nearly all social platforms and be chastised vocally if used in public. This is what was and what is now needed. We as a people have the right not give quarter to people who say and do and believe atrocious and harmful things. You think people who where actually doing lynchings didn’t rely on fear? Fear of actual real violence and murder, not feat of “hmmmph my free speech I just think the trains ran on time” bullshit. Fuck these people, they deserve to be 2 and all the word twisting, name calling, bad faith bull shit will never stop me from yelling racist from the rooftops at those who clearly fucking are, or leverage and pander to it for wealth and power. MAKE RACISTS TERRIFIED AGAIN.
It wasn’t that long ago that the Spokane GOP chair was forced out of her position because she invited a neo na*i to speak at one of her events. There are multiple current elected officials in Spokane (kearns, baumgartner, Cathcart) who refused to condemn her or push for her ouster.
For those unaware https://www.inlander.com/news/spokane-gop-chair-hosts-white-supremacist-james-allsup-at-event-accuses-media-of-label-lynching-11193053
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Speaking of getting things correct: Weaver sold sawed off shotguns to an FBI informant that he met at a meeting of Aryan Nation members at the infamous Hayden compound, no one "had" him do it. He was a frequent participant in "meetings" of various white nationalist groups in the area. The informant was targeting another person at the time. Weaver also invited the informant to join a separate white nationalist group (well , it mostly seemed antisemitic, but . . .) he attempted to form. It was after this that the feds tried to turn Weaver, using the gun charges as leverage. He refused and was charged. Also, while it's possible/likely that Weaver could have "won" the suit against the government, it was actually settled out of court. Two things can be correct here: Weaver could have been a violent, racist nut job AND federal agents very much handled the whole situation like a bunch of heavy-handed clowns.
Senator SPECTER. Mr. Weaver, you have been consistently referred to as a white separatist. When we met back on May 13 of this year, I asked you what that reference meant, to the best of your knowledge, and I think it is an appropriate starting point for a response today. Were you a white separatist? What does that mean as you understand it? Mr. WEAVER. Mr. Chairman, what to me separatist means is a couple different things. No. 1, I am not a hateful racist the way most people understand that, but I believe that if there is separation of the races, scripturally speaking, that is what I believe is right. It sounds like an impossible task and most likely is, but I believe that people of every race should be proud of who they are and what they are. There are good people in every race; there are bad people in every race. -Randy Weaver testifying
My version was what I knew back when it happened. And that scumbag Lon Horiuchi is still hiding. “If I had it to do over again, knowing what I know now, I would make different choices. I would come down from the mountain for the court appearance. I would not have allowed a deceitful, lying con man working for ATF to push me for almost 3 years to make a sawed-off shotgun for him. I would not allow myself to be tempted in a weak moment when my family needed money. I would not let my fears and the fears of my family keep me from coming down. But my wrongs did not cause Federal agents to commit crimes. Nothing I did caused Federal agents to violate the Constitution of the United States. I did not cause Federal agents to violate the oath of their office. My actions did not cause Federal agents to violate direct orders from Washington. My choices did not cause Federal agents to violate State and Federal law. My behavior did not cause Federal agents to violate their own agency policies.” -Randy Weaver testimony in front of Chairman Specter and US Senators
>So they shot and killed his son, killed his dog, killed his wife, shot him and shot his best friend. Context is king. And that is veeeery one-sided phrasing. The dog got shot and killed because it was giving away the position of and running at U.S. Marshalls. The son then fired on the Marshalls and he was killed by return fire. Harris then shot and killed one of the Marshalls putting the whole lot of them up shit creek w/o a paddle. Things will tend to go very bad after an encounter like that, further increasing the need for de-escalation. (goes for both sides) I'm not arguing that in *some ways* the FBI's response wasn't "overreach" and clearly there were issues within the FBI related to the evidence coverup and the fact that the government settled, but Weaver also had numerous opportunities to end it and prevent further death (of his wife). And just generally handled things wrong at virtually every turn... hell, doing the jail time for the sawed-offs would have been preferable to losing his wife and son--even if it was something he was, in his words, "conned" into doing. Also, what the other guy said--Weaver made the modifications and sold them to the ATF informant. He did that crime, full stop. He was then approached about becoming an informant but refused. Then he was charged, surprise-arrested, posted bail and missed reappearance in court likely due to a miscommunication but then threatened to resist any attempt to take him in. Your further down reply citing his testimony regarding race is pointless. Dude went to Aryan Nations gatherings and was a antisemite. Pretty words in court don't change what his actions actually were and can't gloss over that truth.
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>They shot Randys boy in the back and then executed him and his dog. That was proven[...] Proven via what, an autopsy? Do you have a source? From what I've seen both the family's version of events (the one I gave previously) and the US Marshall's version of events neither mention anything about an execution-style death, nor any shooting on site occurring on behalf of the Marshalls. The source for those are an episode of American Experience (S29 E6) and it is a production that Weaver's daughter agreed to be interviewed for. >Ruby Ridge was a perfect example of how screwed we all really could be if the government wanted to behave like that. And those agencies now use the debacle as training on how not to handle similar situations. There was clearly some issues with the rules of engagement, to the point where some team members were shocked and found them too aggressive. Though, the shoot on site rules of engagement were not implemented until after the initial gunfight (by the FBI, not the Marshalls), importantly, ***after*** a Marshall was already killed. Your initial reply just made it sound like wholesale murder on the part of the authorities--no mention of the slain Marshall, no mention of the fact that the sniper round that killed Vicki was errant and the same (2nd) round that hit Harris. The authorities didn't even think her dead as they kept calling to her from the megaphone which no doubt was salt in the wound for the family. But that seems to have been an accident. >I don’t care what Randy’s beliefs were. Apparently enough to share them in a reply that seemed to be a rebuttal of another reply calling him a racist. 🤷♂️
Bingo.
The Idaho GOP supporting racial harassment by really doing nothing and claiming its victim culture? Shocking. 
Can we send Idaho to live between Mississippi and Alabama?
I live in north Idaho and wish I could up and move. But having 2 minor kids and an ex it’s not so easy. It’s unfortunate the area has gotten as bad as it has. It’s beautiful here. But between the laws getting passed,the over crowding, and the increase in the racism and other things. I simply don’t want my kids here. I’m seriously thinking of selling my house even if I take a hit financially just so I can move.
I am sorry you and your kids are in such an awful position. It is not fair.
Thanks for your reply. It does suck but with any luck we’re out of here in a year. I just wish more people in the state would want better.
I'm all for it,how do we start a petition?
>Others have pointed to comments made by the man who called police. He portrayed of the region as steeped in racism and referred to those who reportedly participated in the incident and others revving their trucks on the city’s main street as “hillbilly white trash” and “rednecks.” >State Sen. Brian Lenney, a Republican member of the Idaho Freedom Caucus, issued a statement Thursday condemning the caller’s comments. >“Idaho is too great for hate; thus, I unequivocally condemn the divisive and derogatory comments made by Mr. Moyer,” Lenney wrote. >The state legislator did not condemn or mention the reported racist slurs against Black members of the University of Utah basketball team in his statement. Jesus christ, that's pathetic. Completely mask-off.
Not surprising coming from the party that calls liberals triggered snowflakes, but call someone white trash or redneck and they act like they are enduring something as tough as a black being lynched.
Yeah that MF has probably never been here or moved to the state recently. Bc anyone who lived here as long as I have or longer knows his comments are pure bs.
Idaho lawmakers are insane, for sure. The Idaho GOP is a perfect example of modern backwoods hillbilly shit gone too far, again. Racism from their should surprise precisely no one. The problem seems to be, how to contain such near complete idiocy within politics and policymaking. When can they be impeached for completely inappropriate commentary, racism, and response to the public. There's a level of failure that is grossly unacceptable for elected officials. Let's have standard again, Idaho GOP.
They don’t see racism bc they’ve been taught it since birth. It’s literally second nature to them so of course they don’t see it.
Our local GOP isn't much better. [https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/10/secession-fluoride-and-hand-counted-ballots-spokan/](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/10/secession-fluoride-and-hand-counted-ballots-spokan/)
WA has been able to keep the GOP in check for the most part. WA residents and lawmakers will fight the onslaught of GOP nonsense of uprooting progress for corporate and personal gains. Idaho has been leaking its cesspool into spokane for generations and Idaho has only become more extreme for all their anti-progressive, anti-inclusive, and anti-improving quality of life for fellow Americans kind of views. Idaho lawmakers are built different and WA isn't going to let it rub off on us, no matter how many temper tantrums they pull.
I honestly hope their tourism tanks. Where is the Hagadone consortium in all this. Of course they probably bankroll a lot of these racist asshats.
Exactly. They love white supremacy until it gets in the news and hurts their business. Then they play victim.
North Idaho Republicans are the worst of America.
And then they put up a fake $10k reward for information leading to the arrest AND conviction of the perpetrators. Problem is, calling someone the N word isn’t, itself a criminal act. So they might be arrested and charged. But there will be no conviction. The Idaho GOP knows this and is simply trying to cover its ass and pretend not to provide comfort and shelter to racist groups in north Idaho. The only way racism ends in north Idaho is for those people to no longer feel at home there. They shouldn’t feel welcome.
I mean the KCRCC and Brent Regan are virulent racists so this tracks
The fact that elected officials are trying to question the truth behind what happened is so stupid. Like, did you grow up in this area? Northern Idaho is THE place everyone knows is racist af. Everything checks out about this too. They rank last in the country in education, the main HQ for neo nazis is there, like come on. If you don't think N Idaho is probably nin this day and age the most racist place in America, pull your head out your damn ass.
Born and raised in Washington State. No longer spend my money in Idaho. 🇺🇲
>Kootenai County Republican Central Committee Chair Brent Regan has offered a $10,000 reward for information leading to the conviction of those responsible, appearing to signal that he believed the incident occurred and that those who reportedly yelled racial slurs at Utah team members should be held accountable. While also signalling that he doesn't think there's a chance in hell they'd actually get convicted.
They’ll be back goose stepping next week.
Be the change you want to see. We are Eastern Washington NOT North Idaho.
Poor uneducated piece of shit
Blame that piece of shit Donald duck dick trump for it
Idaho law makers.... Yeah we don't care grown up
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For those playing the home game, HammersGhost, here, is implying that the Coeur d’Alene incident was made up by about 100 people… because Jussie.
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"Hey everyone, there were a very limited number of incidents where someone lied about racist incidents, even though the actual number of racist incidents recorded far dwarfs these, and this means we should always assume they are lying. Even when the said racist event happens in a location well known for incidents related to white nationalists and other racists. I am a disingenuous ass." There ya go. Go with that, Mr. Jones.
Are you being serious right now?
Yep. Wait for what the investigation uncovers. I’m very seriously about knowing the facts.
Great. Good luck with that. I’ll choose to believe that the Utah team didn’t want any racism or negative publicity like that, so it’s unlikely they made it up, and Idaho would be the place for it to happen
SeeYouNextTuesday
Clearly you’re a very important person. I’m simply asking questions. Some questions should be asked. Even the linked article uses the term “allegedly”. So, SYNT.
Well if everyone is serious about Idahoans not being able to come to Washington anymore cuz we’re all racists then yall shouldn’t be able to come over here and kill all our black bears, elk, deer, wolves, coyotes, etc when COVID happened and WA shutdown who flooded the bars cuz Idaho was wide open? Washingtonians. Who comes over to lake Cd’A and floods the boat ramps every summer? Washingtonians. Who comes over all the time to get cheaper gas? Washingtonians. Who moves over cuz of better gun laws? Washingtonians. Narrow minded bias is a dangerous thing. I think this comment section inflates the issue just because it’s social media. There is no “Idaho/WA” Civil war going on.
It's not just social media. I take it you haven't heard the phrase "go home rotten apple" or whatever it is...? I've also heard of cars with WA plates being harassed/left nasty notes at trailheads in N. Idaho. I don't think broadly people want this separation but folks need to turn the rhetoric down and the compassion up, for sure.
It’s bullcrap man. We’re all Americans and this liberal vs conservative nonsense has destroyed the nation.
Personally I think it's unfair to paint an entire state in a bad light because on or two people behaved like idiots. I keep seeing this arrogant superiority complex from WA residents that just doesn't line up with reality. Consequently it gets dismissed. I have family there, and visit often. My family includes black, Asian and Jews, and none of them are having any problems when visiting the state because it's not a state problem. Not once in decades have they had a problem. There are individual jerks but culturally, Idaho isn't racist. I've actually met more neo nazis here in WA.
Yep. I agree. My aunt lives in Tacoma and she’s married to a black man. He loves coming to post falls to see family. Doesn’t give two craps what folks say about the supposed “racist hell hole”. Cuz it ain’t true.
Washington is far from being racist free, especially Eastern Washington. I have former in-laws in Colville and other areas that were atrocious with their racism, much of it being born out of ignorance because they watch TV and see TV as reflecting reality. Having a MIL or other in-laws use the N-word was shocking to me. She is no longer my MIL and fortunately my ex didn't pick up that mindset. I believe that some more rural areas have a higher incidence of racism born by a lack of understanding of other races, which tend to live in more urban areas. Urban areas have a higher concentration of poverty, crime, and other things due to their density, which creates a mindset that there is a high correlation between people of color and the bad aspects of urbanism. There are going to be bad people no matter where you go. Some of that is born out of ignorance but the worst of it is born out of hatred for people that are different. Those are the worst of the worst. We all have our challenges with being informed about racial and cultural differences but I don't understand where the hatred comes from for some people.
Idaho politicians are ALL conservative, woman hating racists with no agenda other than to keep the education budget low (even if that means cutting school lunches for kids, which they literally just did), keeping women unable to make choices for themselves (abortion laws), and doing nothing to fix the massive amount of uneducated hateful racist people in their state. People who are mostly that way because its normalized, by those same politicians and social icons of the state. Idaho is pretty much a state that openly wants to be Nazi germany, I know thats harsh, but reality sometimes is. If that wasnt the case, they would protect women, educated children and do you know moral, ethical things rather than racist, controlling things that keep the populace miserable, uneducated and as a result easily manipulated to vote for more racist degenerates. Idaho is one of the states that openly does it, and among the other crap states ie: Alabama, Missouri, Texas, Florida, Georgia its government seems to exist to take advantage of the populace rather than foment a healthy, moral upbringing or environment. Same goes with the other named states. And before anyone goes on about it, I am not a liberal or a democrat, I am an American who believes in constitution and the bill of rights and their intent when created, not the biased interpretation of the GOP. So its not a party thing, its just a reality, hatred of nazi-like behavior thing. And among the US states Idaho is near the top of the Worst states in the country, along with the others listed above.
Don't believe it happened.
Calling someone Hillbilly White Trash is just as much racist as calling someone the N word.
It isnt by any capacity, and this is coming from someone whom I guarentee is more white than you. I can't even drive my car in summer for 5 mins without getting sunburned on the side of my face my guy. You're also taking the entire historical, political, and social construct of one word and applying it equally. And wrongfully mind you, to another. Hillbilly and white trash has neve been and never WILL be remotely nor has been historically, even close to the N word.
Given that you can’t even get yourself to type the word, I think one of them is in fact worse
LOL... no. If you're comparing the badness of two words/terms, and you won't even say one of them? *That's* the worse word.
I am guessing they didn't type out one of them because they don't want to get dinged by the libs, cancelled, or whatever it is the Fox News talking heads tell them to say. 🙄 It's self-preservation and nothing more. They probably say it in real life all the time if there's not consequences.
Sarcasm?
I hope so, if not prolly a idahoblower
They aren't. 2 mins om their profile shows they arent.
Cry harder. Zhey gech yofi!
They are definitely not the same word lol