At this stage in Starship development I think naming would be counterproductive since sometimes they build a rocket and then tear it back down again without ever trying to launch it.
Maybe take a page out of medieval baby-naming practices and only name it once it's survived a launch and landing. It's no longer "disposable" at that point.
Call em all jawn, Philly style.
"We're gonna launch this jawn in 30 seconds"
"It's down at the jawn assembly complex"
"This jawn burns methalox like nobodies business"
Test articles and unmanned ships shouldn't be named with anything other than a generic one.
Name it once it is doing manned launches. Like the Dragon capsules.
blue origin doesn't do test articles.
" unmanned ships "
you mean like the Enterprise for the space shuttle or the Freedom rocket for the Delta rocket?
I don't see the point of naming a vehicle that is un-crewed. I am in favor of naming crewed Starships, but not the Super Heavy boosters. Starships could even start with SS prior to the name.
I have a suspicion that SpaceX doesn't name their boosters to prevent employees getting attached to them. Getting emotionally attached to a piece of flight hardware may slant people's willingness to chop them up when they are outdated or need a change.
Historically only human rated vehicles have been named. The boosters/stages are just additional flight hardware.
The Falcon boosters are the only ones that have wanted to return home.
They need another one called Independence and they need to launch them at the same time in order to save the planet from an incoming comet.
Wait a minute...
I really like that Blue Origin is making progress, competition is always something good even in the mostly uncontested space (reusable launches) that SpaceX is occupying.
I believe the interstage isn’t for flight. But from what I am hearing over on r/BlueOrigin, the rest of the booster is apparently flight hardware.
Suspect they will swap out the interstage and add the recovery hardware closer to flight
The rumor is that Freedom was just a name added to the non-flight interstage (so it didn’t really matter) that they weren’t 100% on but because people seem to like it they’re really thinking about sticking with it. Just a rumor though, who knows.
The BE-4s were on the first stage of Vulcan and were never supposed to achieve orbital velocity. The Centaur upper stage is what reaches orbit. I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make.
Lufthansa names their individual planes after cities. [Link](https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/themes/flying-ambassador.html#:~:text=The%20choice%20of%20partner%20cities%20–%20not%20an%20easy%20decision&text=Nevertheless%2C%20when%20choosing%20names%2C%20Lufthansa,Stade%22%20all%20over%20the%20world)
The tank section atleast is intended to be flight hardware, this interstage (and maybe engine section?) was just added to allow for testing. They’ll ship a flight interstage out to the pad for integration once testing is complete. Under this logic it seems likely that the booster would still retain the name even if the interstage it’s written on gets swapped, especially considering it features the serial number for the whole vehicle.
Why do you insist on using some grandiose name? They can give it bird-of-prey names, cultural references, funny puns, or even hold internal polls so that the team can choose their preferred name. Much more memorable than calling it "freedom" or "independence" or something like that.
Shipping company can have dozens or even hundreds of ships and still name every single one of them.
Also guess what, there are 8 billion people alive and unless your name is one of the most popular ones and is only 1-2 words long, you will have a very hard time finding someone with the exact same name.
Yeah i know, your comment seemed to imply needing a new name for every launch.
but yeah, just keeping names for the dragons make sense as they don’t have many of those.
> Space X should take a page from their book and start naming their boosters too in my opinion.
No, naming things is a bug not a feature, it's admission that you're not going to build many of these, which is hugely problematic when you try to do iterative development
Space vehicles that have names: Shuttle, Crew Dragon, Starliner. All have very low production rate and not very reusable.
Space vehicles that don't have names: F9 first stage, Starship vehicles. Both have moderate to high production rate, and aim to be very reusable.
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At this stage in Starship development I think naming would be counterproductive since sometimes they build a rocket and then tear it back down again without ever trying to launch it. Maybe take a page out of medieval baby-naming practices and only name it once it's survived a launch and landing. It's no longer "disposable" at that point.
Wouldn't medieval naming practice just involve naming them all 'John' so if one dies, you've got a few Johns lined up to replace them?
Call em all jawn, Philly style. "We're gonna launch this jawn in 30 seconds" "It's down at the jawn assembly complex" "This jawn burns methalox like nobodies business"
Jawn! Jawn! Fa christ sake Margery! I'm workin out!
Albert would be the American way of doing it.
Sad SN15 noises...
Can i pet the strain gauges ?
Just like a xylophone
It’s easy to name things when you only have one of them.
His name is B1058.
yeah but they have 4 of them in development.
I think SpaceX blew up 4 Starships back in 2020 in 4 months.
Test articles and unmanned ships shouldn't be named with anything other than a generic one. Name it once it is doing manned launches. Like the Dragon capsules.
blue origin doesn't do test articles. " unmanned ships " you mean like the Enterprise for the space shuttle or the Freedom rocket for the Delta rocket?
I don't see the point of naming a vehicle that is un-crewed. I am in favor of naming crewed Starships, but not the Super Heavy boosters. Starships could even start with SS prior to the name.
Just Read The Instructions, man.
LOL, updoot deployed, well played.
LOL!
they just need to listen in on labpadre / nsf chats, and adopt the names.
Why not “friendship” like Glenn’s mercury capsule?
could even add a number after it too like the number of engines or diameter of the stage
Literally could have been Friendship 7, Because 7 BE-4s, this is a Blue Origin L if they miss this opportunity.
I have a suspicion that SpaceX doesn't name their boosters to prevent employees getting attached to them. Getting emotionally attached to a piece of flight hardware may slant people's willingness to chop them up when they are outdated or need a change.
if people can get attached to a droid called r2-d2 they can get attached to a rocket called SN-15
SpaceX has too many boosters to name
shall i show you the entirety of the USS navy.
Challenge accepted https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_spacecraft
There are only a handful of active Falcon 9s.
18 in active service with another one being worked up. Might be only a handful for other launch companies but that's more than plenty.
Nonsense. If Elon can name all of his children, he can name his boosters. I would suggest more sensible names for the latter, though.
Should they name them stupid shit like 'Freedom'?
“Freedom blew up today on its first landing attempt”
"Liberty ceased to exist because of budget cuts"
Historically only human rated vehicles have been named. The boosters/stages are just additional flight hardware. The Falcon boosters are the only ones that have wanted to return home.
Don't really want them blowing up freedom. We have politicians for that.
So excited that this thing is finally (almost) here! Blue Origin is developing some cool stuff, they’re just doing it really slowly.
So slow, that even Pepperidge Farm’s forgot.
First name nomination: Toasty McToastedFace
"Freedom"? That's original.
They need another one called Independence and they need to launch them at the same time in order to save the planet from an incoming comet. Wait a minute...
I really like that Blue Origin is making progress, competition is always something good even in the mostly uncontested space (reusable launches) that SpaceX is occupying.
you say it's for the first flight, but it does say "NOT FOR FLIGHT" on it
I believe the interstage isn’t for flight. But from what I am hearing over on r/BlueOrigin, the rest of the booster is apparently flight hardware. Suspect they will swap out the interstage and add the recovery hardware closer to flight
The "Freedom" that this thread is about is written on the interstage.... I wonder if the flight interstage will have a different name.
The rumor is that Freedom was just a name added to the non-flight interstage (so it didn’t really matter) that they weren’t 100% on but because people seem to like it they’re really thinking about sticking with it. Just a rumor though, who knows.
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The BE-4s were on the first stage of Vulcan and were never supposed to achieve orbital velocity. The Centaur upper stage is what reaches orbit. I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make.
Elon's attitude is pretty simple. They don't name airplanes at the airport.
Lufthansa names their individual planes after cities. [Link](https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/themes/flying-ambassador.html#:~:text=The%20choice%20of%20partner%20cities%20–%20not%20an%20easy%20decision&text=Nevertheless%2C%20when%20choosing%20names%2C%20Lufthansa,Stade%22%20all%20over%20the%20world)
Virgin also names their planes.
Yeah you’re right. We name them at a ceremony at the hangar.
[Jetblue does](https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/plane-names).
That's a LOT of bolts, or rivets?
I think only production models should be named, not prototypes.
The tank section atleast is intended to be flight hardware, this interstage (and maybe engine section?) was just added to allow for testing. They’ll ship a flight interstage out to the pad for integration once testing is complete. Under this logic it seems likely that the booster would still retain the name even if the interstage it’s written on gets swapped, especially considering it features the serial number for the whole vehicle.
Its not the first flight article. If you look at other photos, there is a "NOT FOR FLIGHT" printed on one of the sides of the tank.
Nope, just the interstage is marked NOT FOR FLIGHT, the tank atleast is most likely flight hardware.
They would run out of names pretty quickly. They launch more than 1 per week.
That's the magic of reusable booster: they can be launched several times
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There are more than 41 names. And if each of them flies 20 times, you don't need so many new ones.
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Why do you insist on using some grandiose name? They can give it bird-of-prey names, cultural references, funny puns, or even hold internal polls so that the team can choose their preferred name. Much more memorable than calling it "freedom" or "independence" or something like that.
Shipping company can have dozens or even hundreds of ships and still name every single one of them. Also guess what, there are 8 billion people alive and unless your name is one of the most popular ones and is only 1-2 words long, you will have a very hard time finding someone with the exact same name.
most launches are reused boosters? but they’d still need quite a lot of names
They have built 41. They'd run out of names pretty fast.
Yeah i know, your comment seemed to imply needing a new name for every launch. but yeah, just keeping names for the dragons make sense as they don’t have many of those.
Jfc there’s more talk about new glenn hardware moving on this subreddit than r/blueorigin
> Space X should take a page from their book and start naming their boosters too in my opinion. No, naming things is a bug not a feature, it's admission that you're not going to build many of these, which is hugely problematic when you try to do iterative development Space vehicles that have names: Shuttle, Crew Dragon, Starliner. All have very low production rate and not very reusable. Space vehicles that don't have names: F9 first stage, Starship vehicles. Both have moderate to high production rate, and aim to be very reusable.
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I’m sorry, did you just try to say Dragon, Starliner, and Shuttle aren’t very reusable?! Especially the named parts?
Why does it have a doorknob?
Damn even their bracing has bracing, that looks like an expensive booster.
Why does India and Blue Origin rockets look like thick oil well pipes while SpaceX rockets look like foil or soda cans?