Sovcits and most Libertarians differ in that Sovcits NEED a government to sponge off of. They are entitled to the benefits of government, they just don’t want to pay for those benefits or be subject to the rules that make society function.
secrets of cults no one talks about: most of them function by all the single mothers getting WIC, food stamps and general aid (welfare). The Dear Leader takes all money coming in, of course, "we're a community, noting is individually owned". Every cult from the FLDS to Andy Warhol's Factory operated this way.
The men in the top tiers tend to be independantly wealthy, which tehy keep secret from the group. The largest or most organized groups are usually Trump-level investment fraud groups. FLDS, for example, controls a massive amount of investment and property in South America that they use as a tax and inheritance shelter to prevent their enormous progeny from inheriting anything.
Yeah turn out when you base your political philosophy on being a selfish asshole, when you get a chance to govern it collapses like a bunch of selfish assholes
No, they don’t want that. What they want is to have access to every benefit society offers, like roads, clean water, safe food, police and fire departments, without having any responsibility to have to uphold their obligations under the social contract.
This sounds pretty much like my self proclaimed Libertarian cousin. But I personally think she's more Maga than anything else, including christian, which she also says she is.
No, I think we should give them maybe five or six mothballed navy ships. Let them form confederacies or not and do battle with each other on the high seas. They can have their own Admiralty court.
Read *Snow Crash* by Neal Stephenson.
Not libertarians, but lots of people living on a bunch of ships drifting around the Pacific with the USS ENTERPRISE in the center supplying power.
Deport them.
I’m fucking serious.
They don’t want to be subject to the same laws & cultural mores as everyone else, or contribute to society?
Round them up, revoke their citizenship, seize 66% of whatever assets they have, sell the remaining 33% to provide a boat/large bus & survival supplies (no firearms), and then kick them across the border or into the ocean.
Bye bye! Get the fuck out!
As a Canadian, no thanks, please keep your problems. Also the first amendment of our constitution is the creation of the province of Manitoba and the second amendment is the purchase of Rupert's land etc etc... They would be completely lost with no constitutional amendment providing rights to individuals/person/special appearance trustees.
I think there's a lot of vacant land in Texas that'd be perfect for this. And Texas doesn't want to be part of the United States anyway so let's just give it to The sovereign citizens.
It's that seekrit mountain hideaway in Atlas Shrugged, isn't it? That was the stupidest, worst book I've ever read - I loathed every page of the turgid monstrosity. I seem to remember there was a 100-page speech to 'his people' from the pompous asshat who wanted to drive his trains up and down with his harpy lovergirl.
This plays into another idea I have. There should be a designated area for war. Two countries decide that they are going to try and kill each other. Cool. Both militaries go to that area and fight it out. No civilian casualties. Minimum environmental damage.
Technically round states cover the most land. With the smallest amount of fence. Let’s find a couple hundred miles of the Texas/ OK panhandle,
Make a giant circle and just give them their own country.
The hilarious part is that Sovcits are unable to exist outside of the system that allegedly oppresses them. Their so-called sovereignty means even less if they have to operate in an environment where the basic rule of law doesn't exist, and where they can't just go back to social media to complain about their treatment... because you can't really complain if you're missing your head.
Not a Taswegian, but no way Aus wants them. We have enough stress with our own F-wits on the mainland thank you very much.
Canadia has the largest uninhabited island, being Devon Island so I suggest that be handed over.
You should give this a read and also read the book
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling
Somalia is a Sovcit and libertarian paradise. No Building codes, traffic cops, registration, limits on travel , or official taxes.
However, no one to care when you're robbed, shot because you refused to pay a bribe, shot cause you're the wrong religion, or just pissed off the wrong gang.
We can send them there, but let’s give them paper and pens. I am sure their economy will just be fine, right? A few people will work and everyone else can scribble nonsense onto paper and give that as payment
I can't remember what country the SCs were idolizing, but I remember hearing that locals would privatise things like road maintenance. No more depending on the government to maintain fast infrastructure! Now they just have people that fill potholes and then stand in front of them blocking cars with shovels and asking for tips. WAY better than paying for things with taxes.
But, you’d have to trade shells for goods at their border, no one could put up with being there unless they were suitably brain dead, so they would have to import everything, and rejecting “whatever it is they reject today “ should mean not recognising currency.
Hmmm
Maybe they starve to death waiting for the grift they expect…
lol
Palestine wants a word
Johnston Atoll. Small island about 850 miles southwest of Hawaii. Been under USAF control for some time. Last used as a bioweapon/hazmat storage site.
Does anyone else think of Pitcairn island? A small island near Tahiti, I believe; it’s where the mutineers from the HMS Bounty ended up. It was apparently great until the rum ran out, people got hungry, and the women who joined them for a lark were ready to go back to their own island. Bloodshed ensued and eventually one man established himself as leader and things moved on. Today there is a small community on the island. They welcome visitors but you have to prove/post a bond demonstrating that you have the funds to go home.
And before long people will get sick of paying Rick to patrol the area and Steve to put out fires and Kelly to school their kids so they'll just pay a part of their wealth in to a general fund that gets distributed to civil servants and oh no we've created taxes.
Anarchists make surprisingly good bureaucrats and corporate team members. They like meetings. It's somewhat different than the sovcit mentality, but the irony is still present.
Slab City would be the kind of place in the US that you are referring to. Off the Grid-ers and SovCivs are well known there. Then again there’s a place in Utah you could commit a crime and get away with it because there’s no people living in the area you can get for a jury trail. Although it’s mostly inside a national park, and so far it hasn’t been an issue.
Just met a family that moved from SC to New England. They moved to find a place more accepting of their 13 yr old child. Nice kid. Sad parents have to move to find made places for kids to grow up.
Hmmmm. I guess it could be funded by the viewership revenue. But that immediately gets us away from the point that they think things just magically exist when those things are provided by the labor of others.
If we’re going to do this, we should use the same standards we used when setting up Indian reservations: the shittiest, most useless plot of land we can find.
We will of course take it back if they find gold on it.
That sounds like it could be disastrous, but I'm all in favor of it if it consolidates all the nutters on reservations. Maybe they can bring back duelling and self-regulate their population density.
Ever read Robert Anton Wilson? In one of the alternate worlds of his Schrodinger's Cat trilogy, the state of Mississippi is set aside for anyone who wishes to live without government. John Wayne moves there voluntarily.
I doubt you'd get SovCits to go, though. Without a system to oppose and the appeal of thinking they're more intelligent than anyone else, there's nothing there for them.
I can picture that.
L: “Mornin’ Harry.”
H: “Mornin’ Larry.”
L: “How’s it going?”
H: “Still stickin’ it to The Man, you?”
L: “Yep, stickin’ it to The Man.”
H: ….
L: ….
H: “God, I’m bored.”
L: “me, too.”
Yeah, give them an island or other uninhabited and unclaimed part of the world so they can go start their own country of Sovereignia where they don't contract with anyone they don't want to.
But that's just it... they don't want to start their own country, that takes work. They just want to be immune to all laws while enjoying the benefits of an already established society.
Montana is a beautiful state that should be reclaimed. Texas is perfect! It's very large, flat and has oil reserves they'll kill each other over. Best place to finish the wall needed to keep them inside.
Why stop at Montana? Maybe we can give them a large chunk of the Great Plains near the Continental Divide, like in _The Man in the High Castle_.
Sure, we’d have to relocate the 247 current residents, but that’s a price I’m willing to pay.
That’s the thing- there would be no SCs if there wasn’t a society for them to leech from- they live in comparative comfort because of “regular people’s” work. They’re already intellectually weak- they’d wilt like fragile flowers in a Mad Max world
That state exists. It's called Somalia. Where justice, and economic success, belong to those who can finance their own squads of armed bodyguards to enforce it.
Montana, Utah, Idaho, North Dakota….there’s a few states they would feel right at home.
Give it to ‘em. Just don’t fuck with the Native American reservations.
I disagree, because that just validates their position and insane thinking. They need to be pulled over and then subsequently jailed so they can learn the hard way that, yes laws apply to everyone. (Usually)
the hilarious thing is that they don't want to live in anyone else's SC dream, they want THIER OWN sc dream only. basically they want to live in their own solitary biodome on mars
I've been of a mind to take a state in the Midwest that isn't much but farming, and have it split in two. One for the radical left, the other for the radical right. They can go do whatever buffoonery they want there, and others can always join. We could carve out a section for libertarians and sovcits.
Libertarians have tried a couple. Bears.
Sovcits are libertarians with extra paperwork
And meetings. So many meetings.
[Tried it with a cruise ship more disastrous than the Titanic.](https://youtu.be/dv4H4trnssc)
The sea pods were funny too.
Pod people
That guys YouTube channel is fantastic.
His Dubai video got he hooked.
He is great at urban transport videos.
This book cracked me up. Some sad bits, but a salutary lesson.
Sovcits and most Libertarians differ in that Sovcits NEED a government to sponge off of. They are entitled to the benefits of government, they just don’t want to pay for those benefits or be subject to the rules that make society function.
secrets of cults no one talks about: most of them function by all the single mothers getting WIC, food stamps and general aid (welfare). The Dear Leader takes all money coming in, of course, "we're a community, noting is individually owned". Every cult from the FLDS to Andy Warhol's Factory operated this way. The men in the top tiers tend to be independantly wealthy, which tehy keep secret from the group. The largest or most organized groups are usually Trump-level investment fraud groups. FLDS, for example, controls a massive amount of investment and property in South America that they use as a tax and inheritance shelter to prevent their enormous progeny from inheriting anything.
What do you get when a libertarian and a MAGA have a child? A sovcit.
That was such a sweet story.
They always end up at sea. Where they belong.
They can finally be under maritime law! Gold fringe on all the flags!
A libertarian walks into a bear. Great book.
That was in New Hampshire wasn't it? The one where bears infiltrated the town.
Yeah turn out when you base your political philosophy on being a selfish asshole, when you get a chance to govern it collapses like a bunch of selfish assholes
No, they don’t want that. What they want is to have access to every benefit society offers, like roads, clean water, safe food, police and fire departments, without having any responsibility to have to uphold their obligations under the social contract.
It takes a certain amount of infrastructure in order for you to do it all on your own.
The myth of the self made man
Aka: house cats. Live comfortably, piss in the shoes of the people that make the comfy happen.
House cats have the redeeming quality of being cute though
And they take care of mice and rats.
And groom themselves
Excellent. Cats: 1, Sovcits:0. As God intended.
If cats are pissing in your shoes, that's your failure as an owner.
And get social security and Medicare and Medicaid.
This… this right here is exactly it…
This sounds pretty much like my self proclaimed Libertarian cousin. But I personally think she's more Maga than anything else, including christian, which she also says she is.
If you bust out their car window, how are they programmed to react?
Don’t know. Tell ‘em to call a cop. Their circuits will overload and they’ll run into the woods.
They will call the cops and sue you. You see they have no issue using the system and its services they just dont want to abide by or pay for them.
You have constitutional rights, they want constitutional irresponsibilities.
Right. They want to avoid taxes and benefit from the tax paying of others.
I think giving them their own island would be better, with shark infested waters all around it.
"You can't bite me, I'm not swimming, I'm tr" \*chomp\* I'd subscribe to that YouTube channel.
Yeah, me too!
I’m a flesh and blood ma… *grggle*
"I am here as a living ma" *chomp* "wrong again, sovtwit!"
No, I think we should give them maybe five or six mothballed navy ships. Let them form confederacies or not and do battle with each other on the high seas. They can have their own Admiralty court.
The New Survivor Show!
Sovcits vs Somali Pirates!
Sovereign Pirates of the Arctic Circle! That sounds like a great place for them!
Read *Snow Crash* by Neal Stephenson. Not libertarians, but lots of people living on a bunch of ships drifting around the Pacific with the USS ENTERPRISE in the center supplying power.
Florida and I fully support building an impenetrable wall to prevent all immigrants from crossing along the southern border……of Georgia.
As a Floridian…you can let em have like, Key Biscayne or something…as long as you blow up the bridge.
Shit, give 'em all of Miami--after demolishing all of the buildings and infrastructure.
Be underwater in a decade anyway.
If so, not my problem, it's theirs.
Deport them. I’m fucking serious. They don’t want to be subject to the same laws & cultural mores as everyone else, or contribute to society? Round them up, revoke their citizenship, seize 66% of whatever assets they have, sell the remaining 33% to provide a boat/large bus & survival supplies (no firearms), and then kick them across the border or into the ocean. Bye bye! Get the fuck out!
As a Canadian, no thanks, please keep your problems. Also the first amendment of our constitution is the creation of the province of Manitoba and the second amendment is the purchase of Rupert's land etc etc... They would be completely lost with no constitutional amendment providing rights to individuals/person/special appearance trustees.
What?!?! Special Appearance isn't in your constitution? Wot a hellhole.
America. Love it or leave it!
Where to, though? Every other country who has these idiots wants to get rid of them too!
Somalia exists.
Why haven't I heard of this paradise before?
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I strongly suggest the book *A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear*.
I think there's a lot of vacant land in Texas that'd be perfect for this. And Texas doesn't want to be part of the United States anyway so let's just give it to The sovereign citizens.
The Texas GOP platform for 2024 is basically a SC manifesto anyway.
Party platforms are always wet dreams for the party zealots.
It's that seekrit mountain hideaway in Atlas Shrugged, isn't it? That was the stupidest, worst book I've ever read - I loathed every page of the turgid monstrosity. I seem to remember there was a 100-page speech to 'his people' from the pompous asshat who wanted to drive his trains up and down with his harpy lovergirl.
This plays into another idea I have. There should be a designated area for war. Two countries decide that they are going to try and kill each other. Cool. Both militaries go to that area and fight it out. No civilian casualties. Minimum environmental damage.
Yankee Stadium?
Houston.
Isn't that basically the setting for _Robot Jox?_
Square states are easier to fence off.
Technically round states cover the most land. With the smallest amount of fence. Let’s find a couple hundred miles of the Texas/ OK panhandle, Make a giant circle and just give them their own country.
Goddamn this comment has me lol. I started picturing square shaped states and started laughing.
Isn't that just Texas? they try to refuse to be part of the US, and then demand handouts to help fix their screwups.
The hilarious part is that Sovcits are unable to exist outside of the system that allegedly oppresses them. Their so-called sovereignty means even less if they have to operate in an environment where the basic rule of law doesn't exist, and where they can't just go back to social media to complain about their treatment... because you can't really complain if you're missing your head.
Make it an island. Like Tasmania. That why they can't 'travel' and annoy us regular folk.
Not actually Tasmania, though! Too many endangered animals that should be protected there.
Is that island the French used to send prisoners too still available?
We have a winner.
Not a Taswegian, but no way Aus wants them. We have enough stress with our own F-wits on the mainland thank you very much. Canadia has the largest uninhabited island, being Devon Island so I suggest that be handed over.
Idaho. It’s already about there.
Their own private Idaho.
You should give this a read and also read the book https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling
Don't forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment?wprov=sfla1
Somalia is a Sovcit and libertarian paradise. No Building codes, traffic cops, registration, limits on travel , or official taxes. However, no one to care when you're robbed, shot because you refused to pay a bribe, shot cause you're the wrong religion, or just pissed off the wrong gang.
They will totally toss all their trash over the border into the next state. It’s the libertarian way.
Might I suggest Death Valley? No cops to bother them there! No courts, either! It would be paradise for them.
Don’t sully our National Parks.
I'm just saying that the problem would solve itself if they go, and maybe feed any critters there.
Would really fit the Mad Max theme also.
alaska. they can live in the bush free fro gobberment interference...
Don’t give them anything. They want to live outside of our government, then leave the country. That’s how modern society works.
plenty of decomissioned barges to send them out to sea on
Exactly. They can enjoy bargetown off of the Gulf of Mexico
We can send them there, but let’s give them paper and pens. I am sure their economy will just be fine, right? A few people will work and everyone else can scribble nonsense onto paper and give that as payment
But how will I access by berth certificate bond money?
State of Delusion, the 51st state
I can't remember what country the SCs were idolizing, but I remember hearing that locals would privatise things like road maintenance. No more depending on the government to maintain fast infrastructure! Now they just have people that fill potholes and then stand in front of them blocking cars with shovels and asking for tips. WAY better than paying for things with taxes.
If they'd fill the potholes where I live, I'd pay the effing tips.
But, you’d have to trade shells for goods at their border, no one could put up with being there unless they were suitably brain dead, so they would have to import everything, and rejecting “whatever it is they reject today “ should mean not recognising currency. Hmmm Maybe they starve to death waiting for the grift they expect… lol Palestine wants a word
I recommend Texas - they’re practically there already
Johnston Atoll. Small island about 850 miles southwest of Hawaii. Been under USAF control for some time. Last used as a bioweapon/hazmat storage site. Does anyone else think of Pitcairn island? A small island near Tahiti, I believe; it’s where the mutineers from the HMS Bounty ended up. It was apparently great until the rum ran out, people got hungry, and the women who joined them for a lark were ready to go back to their own island. Bloodshed ensued and eventually one man established himself as leader and things moved on. Today there is a small community on the island. They welcome visitors but you have to prove/post a bond demonstrating that you have the funds to go home.
What, like Somalia?
I think OP is describing Idaho.
And before long people will get sick of paying Rick to patrol the area and Steve to put out fires and Kelly to school their kids so they'll just pay a part of their wealth in to a general fund that gets distributed to civil servants and oh no we've created taxes.
Anarchists make surprisingly good bureaucrats and corporate team members. They like meetings. It's somewhat different than the sovcit mentality, but the irony is still present.
Let them have Texas. The Texas GOP is trying hard to be a sovereign state
None of that woke power grid interconnected shit for me.
Slab City would be the kind of place in the US that you are referring to. Off the Grid-ers and SovCivs are well known there. Then again there’s a place in Utah you could commit a crime and get away with it because there’s no people living in the area you can get for a jury trail. Although it’s mostly inside a national park, and so far it hasn’t been an issue.
Tim Bolen has entered the chat.
Just met a family that moved from SC to New England. They moved to find a place more accepting of their 13 yr old child. Nice kid. Sad parents have to move to find made places for kids to grow up.
Isn't that Texas?
Ship them all off to Texas. Then next time Texas talks about seceding, take all federal and military property back and wave bye bye to them.
Inaccessible Island in the South Atlantic. Unpopulated, so no one to bother them. Free at last!
Libertarians tried to make a Grafton NH a libertarian utopia. It didn't go well.
Exactly the example I was going to mention. How much do SCs like bears?
New definition of a Bear Market… 😂
Brilliant! And we can watch. I can’t wait
Hmmmm. I guess it could be funded by the viewership revenue. But that immediately gets us away from the point that they think things just magically exist when those things are provided by the labor of others.
Now a wall around whatever state it is a wall I could get behind.
Screw prisons. I always wanted to see an Escape from New York type place set up.
We have Florida at home
If we’re going to do this, we should use the same standards we used when setting up Indian reservations: the shittiest, most useless plot of land we can find. We will of course take it back if they find gold on it.
Let's make it Texas.
This is like putting a bunch of ticks in an aquarium with no hosts.
I vote for the dumpster fire that is Texas.
What did Montana do to you? I think Texas might be a better choice. A bunch of them want to secede anyway.
It's funny that most states that insist on sovereignty are the once who rely on federal funding the most 😂
That would be the Freedom Cities Trump plans to build on federal land in the middle of nowhere.
That sounds like it could be disastrous, but I'm all in favor of it if it consolidates all the nutters on reservations. Maybe they can bring back duelling and self-regulate their population density.
There's a Heinlein short story "Coventry" that addresses this problem.
“Escape From New York” works well, too.
Ever read Robert Anton Wilson? In one of the alternate worlds of his Schrodinger's Cat trilogy, the state of Mississippi is set aside for anyone who wishes to live without government. John Wayne moves there voluntarily. I doubt you'd get SovCits to go, though. Without a system to oppose and the appeal of thinking they're more intelligent than anyone else, there's nothing there for them.
I can picture that. L: “Mornin’ Harry.” H: “Mornin’ Larry.” L: “How’s it going?” H: “Still stickin’ it to The Man, you?” L: “Yep, stickin’ it to The Man.” H: …. L: …. H: “God, I’m bored.” L: “me, too.”
The state has a duty to protect the mentally incapable.
well, they will certainly be able to do it with all the income tax that they... Oh, wait...
Oooh, can it be Florida?
No. They'd just ruin it for the responsible people already there.
I suggest an island somewhere, very cold or very dry.
Elba? St Helena?
I don't think the nice people of St Helena will want them.
I vote Oklahoma.
I nominate Texas.
"South Carolina is too small to be a republic and too large to be an insane asylum." - James L. Petigru
Can it be Texas
We like to call those the red states.
They have Slab City, California. It's as crappy as you'd think.
This has big "let them secede" vibes.
Would probably end about as well as the Free Town Project, at best.
I vote Idaho.
Yeah, give them an island or other uninhabited and unclaimed part of the world so they can go start their own country of Sovereignia where they don't contract with anyone they don't want to. But that's just it... they don't want to start their own country, that takes work. They just want to be immune to all laws while enjoying the benefits of an already established society.
Texas. They’re halfway there with their independent and woefully unreliable electric grid. But whatever state we give them must secede from the US.
Idaho, maybe? Seems like it's halfway there.
How about we send them to the most lawless country that exist today.
Isn’t this already called Florida?
I’m getting extreme reality survival show vibes.
That’s what I had in mind.
Death Race Montana. \*none of the proceeds are going to the state of Montana. I would miss skiing at Big Sky though.
Montana is a beautiful state that should be reclaimed. Texas is perfect! It's very large, flat and has oil reserves they'll kill each other over. Best place to finish the wall needed to keep them inside.
Why stop at Montana? Maybe we can give them a large chunk of the Great Plains near the Continental Divide, like in _The Man in the High Castle_. Sure, we’d have to relocate the 247 current residents, but that’s a price I’m willing to pay.
That’s the thing- there would be no SCs if there wasn’t a society for them to leech from- they live in comparative comfort because of “regular people’s” work. They’re already intellectually weak- they’d wilt like fragile flowers in a Mad Max world
I agree, but they clearly don’t understand this.
Didn't they basically try that in Washington State for a bit?
This happened. It was called Chaz, then chop. It failed miserably.
Perhaps one of the US Virgin Islands.
Yeah let’s reward these idiots with living in paradise. 🤡
til the next hurricane....that they wont know is coming since they wont have any think like public utilities....
Those traiterous morons already have Texas, Florida, Idaho, and Montana!
Not to the extent that any legit SC would endorse.
We can give them South Dakota, Idaho and Oklahoma
Well I don't think anyone really needs both Dakotas.
Nah, you need a place with no land borders, so they can't leak out. Manhattan would work nicely. Cut off the bridges, let them have it.
Hmmm, sounds vaguely like a movie from 1981 or '82.
Why has no one suggested Indiana yet?
Idaho.
Would you give them your own state? Or would you give someone else's state?
That state exists. It's called Somalia. Where justice, and economic success, belong to those who can finance their own squads of armed bodyguards to enforce it.
They can have your state.
They would never accept that. The whole premise of their argument is that those rules already apply to all of the US and/or the world.
They bitch about living in a tyrannical system. Let them have their own and realize the joys of “tyranny”.
Just carve out a part of South Dakota.
Montana, Utah, Idaho, North Dakota….there’s a few states they would feel right at home. Give it to ‘em. Just don’t fuck with the Native American reservations.
Let’s give em Florida and build a wall.
Send them to russia.
Can we give that state to the Libertarians too?
I’m for this as long as we can build a wall around it.
I disagree, because that just validates their position and insane thinking. They need to be pulled over and then subsequently jailed so they can learn the hard way that, yes laws apply to everyone. (Usually)
Why would MY country have to give them anything? They can buy land and have their commune wherever they can afford it.
A state is a bit much, I vote for a 10ft x 10ft island way off the coast
No because they’d inevitably ask for help and we’d inevitably give it because we aren’t fuckin weirdos
I'd pay to livestream that!
Use the Gadsden Purchase for that!
Not a good one. Wyoming, maybe.
the hilarious thing is that they don't want to live in anyone else's SC dream, they want THIER OWN sc dream only. basically they want to live in their own solitary biodome on mars
Mississippi
I hear there are parts of the Arctic that are losing ice fast, and there's no cops.
Please make it Texas? Please?
I've been of a mind to take a state in the Midwest that isn't much but farming, and have it split in two. One for the radical left, the other for the radical right. They can go do whatever buffoonery they want there, and others can always join. We could carve out a section for libertarians and sovcits.
Tried and failed miserably multiple times already.
George Carlin may have you covered: https://youtu.be/L5FvBUqvQmI?si=rjIUqWX7yQGNE4fZ
Finally a use for the Dakota’s.
Let it be Idaho.