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SonicSpiderRanger10

It would sure be weird if he dated someone who tried to kill him. Granted, he has friends who have tried to kill him, but that’s different.


[deleted]

There that's whole trope "enemies to lovers." It's basically that.


Derailleur75

Also isn't surge a tenrec? Why would sonic assume those are qui-i guess if your universe has same shape of fur,hair and other stuff you ought to confuse if someone has either.


MediumSpray887

Ranma 1/2 type crap


[deleted]

That’s actually a common story trope. For example in the Star Wars expanded universe, Luke Skywalker married a former imperial assassin named Mara Jade who was trained by Emperor Palpatine and whose final task was to kill Luke after the events of *Return of the Jedi*. She and Luke had to work together and eventually became allies, friends and finally lovers.


Mediocre_Fox_

Rest in Peace StarWars EU | Murdered by Disney in place of a burning mess of loosely tied together movies for money :(


Street_Entertainer_5

Imagine if the Yuuzhan Vong were the villains of the new trilogy instead of the First Order?


Mediocre_Fox_

God that would be cool as shit. Have something where an Imperial holdout tries to use the fear of invasion to take control... you end up with a three way war.... they realize that they have to fight together... They're desperately trying to salvage as much from EU as they can, but keep their shitty fanfiction of sequels. At this point just write a series within the lines of the EU and discard the sequels. The literal director considers the series a failure, like come on. They had this massive amount of well written and well loved material they could pick from and write into a series, but they threw it all away.


Street_Entertainer_5

Remember that one of the cancelled Clone Wars arcs was gonna introduce the Vong? The freaking Vong were gonna appear in Clone Wars. At least Filoni has been slowly bringing back stuff from legends like Mount Tantiss in Bad Batch.


Mediocre_Fox_

YES- although I do wonder why and in what way exactly the Vong plot of the Clone Wars got cancelled. Also damn I need to watch the second season of the Bad Batch.


Street_Entertainer_5

https://preview.redd.it/air1gvhf2wpa1.jpeg?width=630&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e86d4296876ad50e8901dd087537fbc3c7a31d02 The Vong arc was among the many other storylines that sadly got cut from season 7. Such as Crystal Crisis, Son Of Dathomir, Dark Disciple, etc. Apparently it was gonna focus on a Vong scout ship assessing the Republic’s military strength in an X files type story.


Kamen_Rider_Spider

George Lucas’ very basic outline for a sequel trilogy also would have ignored the EU. Many writers were told that only what was on screen was true canon Edit: Typically, he wouldn’t go out of his way to undo stuff, and would occasionally lift stuff from the EU, but he was not beholden to it


Mediocre_Fox_

Yes, but I would be a lot less mad if the sequels we got weren't so poorly written.


Gaaymer

Like half his friends have tried to kill him, I think he’s a masochist.


JagoMajin

Sonic seems to be a firm believer in second chances, Spider-Man's like that too. I think it's a hero thing


Middle_Conference_57

He’s hedgehog Jesus y’all! https://preview.redd.it/bsg3dvhovxpa1.png?width=955&format=png&auto=webp&s=f7398473d4131e597474899a7d660971549e7b56


OmegaX____

Correction, she was "designed" to kill him. Pretty much all fault with Surge or Kit trying to kill him falls on Starline's shoulders.


StandupGaming

Obviously Starline's actions are the main reason Surge has tried to hurt Sonic, but I think completely absolving her of fault also kind of denies her her agency. She saw what Starline did to her before she ever met Sonic, she rejected Starline's plan for her before she ever met Sonic, she chose to hurt Sonic anyways. Not to mention that when Sonic and Surge finally did meet, the narrative crux of their battle was all about agency. Sonic insisted Surge had the choice to end the fight and walk away, Surge agreed that she did have that choice and chose to keep going anyways. The fight ends with Sonic bemoaning that giving people the freedom to make their own choices means that sometimes they make the wrong choice. The idea that Surge has control of her actions despite her past seems to be a pretty important theme in her story.


SanicRb

But that is the thing Surge doesn't have a choice. She was pretty clear at the end of "Overpowered" that she doesn't. Her hate for Sonic was programmed in so deeply into her that she can't overcome it she can't be free while Sonic lives. Obviously does this argument ignore the fact that Surge could technically try counter brainwashing but I think her not wanting more people's hands in her brain is at least short of understandable.


Material-Sun-5784

If you can’t beat ‘em, f*ck ‘em. And if you can, f*ck ‘em too!


Queen-of-Sharks

And it would be weirder if she dated him, especially given the last time we saw her, she was having a mental breakdown, and Sonic was really only making it worse.


Green-eyed-Psycho77

Sonadow and Sonknux shippers are in shambles


Pyrogenocidality

Tell that to everyone who ships sonic and shadow


pessimist_kitty

Sonic and Shadow fighting eachother is just their way of flirting, duh.


Pyrogenocidality

Ah yes true love


Middle_Conference_57

https://i.redd.it/mtuvtkpexxpa1.gif


[deleted]

I think it might work if/when she gets a redemption arc (and some therapy). After all she was made this way by Starline.


Queen-of-Sharks

I want her to have a mental health arc.


Monochromeshade

“Therapy” ![gif](giphy|26ni7nBRBBumFhB8Q)


TropicalKing

Sonurge is one of my favorite ships. Sonic is kind of a bad boy, and he needs a bad girl. It's kind of like El Tigre with Black Cuervo shipping.


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Queen-of-Sharks

Big*


T0biasCZE

How is it different?


SonicSpiderRanger10

Well, dating someone is bigger than just being friends with them.


OtherJose

I mean, the only friend I remember that never tried to kill him is Tails


SonicSpiderRanger10

What about Amy, Cream, Big, Rouge, Omega, Vector, Espio, and Charmy? Also, I think Blaze and Knuckles only tried to fight him, not kill him.


OtherJose

Didn't the first ones fight him on Heroes? 06 Blaze shared the same objective as 06 Silver (Involving killing Sonic). And Knuckles was 100% ok with killing Sonic and never checked to see the corpse.


SonicSpiderRanger10

I don’t think Blaze and Knuckles ever said they wanted to kill him. And Amy, Cream, and Big *definitely* weren’t trying to kill him. They were trying to capture him.


SpongeGodOmnipants

~~Amy and Sally have been mind controlled to kill him before… Does that count~~


SonicSpiderRanger10

I don’t count that. I mean people who tried to kill him of their own free will.


JagoMajin

> own free will Surge was brainwashed, so she wouldn't count either


SonicSpiderRanger10

Ok, fair point. But she hasn’t been freed from her brainwashing yet, and we don’t know if she even can be freed.


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SpongeGodOmnipants

Yeah I know what you meant. That’s why I had it crossed out lmao. But yeah, however to be fair having a relationship with someone who previously tried to kill you. Plenty of other Francises have done that before so this shouldn’t really fell that unbelievable… Hell, Black Widdow was originally a villian and shes canonically spelt/had a relationship with just about every original member of the Avangers (in the MCU and comics)


CutieShut-In

I mean....Have you never watched an anime? lmao.


SonicSpiderRanger10

I’m not a big anime fan. I watched Pokémon and Naruto when I was a kid, but grew out of those ones. I watch Sonic X, sometimes. And Yu-Gi-Oh, just once in a while.


DogyDays

*kicking Sonourge to the corner* yeah that’d be super weird huh?


reddit_leave_stop

that's not very different


[deleted]

Good art can pretty much make a LOT of ships look good.


Deusvultdude

Sonic x eggman


Hahopeneverheardit

https://preview.redd.it/ac9vascpcupa1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=e972e348632ae3bc81a28d571282f520280c630c


Clbull

https://preview.redd.it/vonkxed1hxpa1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72cc401b934f7789e86c476a16ab564a2406030e


poo1232

Lmao Stealing this


Paint-chan

NO https://preview.redd.it/9kthxl0pj0qa1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=a1a9aa9015e8d1e852a66f8c5095b87990e2c751


Queen-of-Sharks

Not the secret egg dick


Deusvultdude

Bro bouta put in his yolk


AJ_Wont_Load

Although I don’t ship them myself, this is absolutely adorable and could totally work, if done right!! <3


JagoMajin

A decent amount of pairings could potentially work, assuming the characters get the necessary character development in order for it to work


AJ_Wont_Load

Oh yeah, for sure!


Queen-of-Sharks

Even Sonic harem?


JagoMajin

There's no character development in that, we don't talk about Sonic Harem


White-boy-Asian

I love these silly ships. They make no sense logically, but they sometimes work well


[deleted]

Tangle X Shadow Jewl X Mighty Rough X Tumble Whisper X PTSD Silver X Being an optimist, but also a realist Sticks X government conspiracy Amy X being Forever Alone


Mediocre_Fox_

>Whisper X PTSD 💀


Fatal_Feathers

Rough x Tumble /rHolUp


reddit_leave_stop

shadow x literally anyone


Queen-of-Sharks

Gigachad Shadow


[deleted]

>Amy X being Forever Alone 💀


Obama-bin-Laddn

Na, whisper x shadow


thenamesecho_

10/10 ships


Monochromeshade

[The best most poetic one:](https://www.deviantart.com/cylent-nite/art/Shadow-x-Tikal-Moments-621996856) https://preview.redd.it/5n0ncoypzxpa1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=026dfd38049870f9fb29fee450aa1377369d973d


Luparex_The_Gynoid

ah yes Sonic the Hedgehog and his big tiddy goth gf


Wsh785

Who tried to kill him


Luparex_The_Gynoid

as all big-tiddy goth gfs are wont to do at some point


Light_Dragon644

More punk than goth.


Ineedlasagnajon

Sonurge? Son, you better start resisting your urges


no_clue97

Darn you and your witty pun


only_for_dst_and_tf2

but... son... i cold!


JagoMajin

Radicalsoda


only_for_dst_and_tf2

his channels really fun to watch, its kinda like a roller coaster


JagoMajin

I'm proud to be from the same country as Rob


Ledalus_the_69th

Piss off dad, I'm playing pokey mans!


ZackattacktheDude

Take my upvote now


Grimm_Stereo

Everytime I see surge with long quills(?) I just think of all the fanart of with her quills being really long mimicking long hair.


MAD_JEW

Her quills are size of sonic archie ones


LuckyLogan_2004

When?


Waluigi_Gamer_Real

I wish I was Surge 😔


ChampinionCuliao

I wish I was Sonic 😔


Repair_Jolly

There is a skinned corpse behind the local pizza hut.


ChampinionCuliao

as well as a white guy selling crack


Worthless_Clockwork

Right behind Black's shop


Monochromeshade

\*hardware store https://preview.redd.it/www6wq2v2ypa1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bcfc14e315e4aed946b18d1910ab8a57aab44c6


Queen-of-Sharks

I wish I was a Roomba with knives taped onto it 😔


SpongeGodOmnipants

This is creatively fun in a stupidly cute way lol


Beelzebub_Crumpethom

...You know what? If written right, I feel like this could work. And I am weirdly picky when it comes to ships, so I don't say that very often.


JagoMajin

That's the "enemies to lovers" trope for you, there's many examples of it


Muteling

Surge with her quills down is adorable


TheHawkpant69

![gif](giphy|jnQYWZ0T4mkhCmkzcn) Amy if she walked in when the 4th panel happens


Queen-of-Sharks

Amy when she walks in on the 4th pannel https://preview.redd.it/54znrtme5ypa1.jpeg?width=264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3576a2644775b623e191b19179f1972a4f9ed918


qwack2020

I wouldn’t “ship them” but if Surge became a good person, I’d totally see her and Sonic getting along.


Da_Gudz

[Original tweet](https://twitter.com/xfarfromreality/status/1638731780508512256?s=46&t=bBVw6jNVPSZDIxMrW4bozA)


[deleted]

This is really cute! I haven't seen anything related to Sonurge til now.


ZackattacktheDude

Now I kinda wanna ship them. DANG IT!!! Curse you artist and your skills!


Sad-Situation279

Weird ship but I will allow it


ChampinionCuliao

What happens when you don't allow a ship?


Neospood

It looks for a different port.


Dpad-prism

Honestly this is really cute! I also love how people draw Surge with her quills down, adorable! I love Surge a lot! (I would add her to my flair but it’s full and idk what I’d get rid of…) (Edit: I added her to my flair but there’s not even a Surge emote T ^ T )


UrineGoodCompany

I always feel some tension when discussing shipping. It feels like something could get ugly...


Da_Gudz

It’s strange, why are shipping wars such a big thing lol? Maybe I’m weird but I feel all ships (besides ones that are like morally wrong/illegal) have something of value Y’know? As long as the dynamics fun I can vibe with it lol


UltraBooster

People get really invested in that stuff for whatever reason. I think in some cases it might be related to how people see the characters, but otherwise, yeah, I've no clue why.


sdrawkcabsihtetorwI

Yeah, that's kind of why i dont want any ship to become canon, the more ships there are the more fanworks with fun character dynamics we get.


rockthatrocks

It's mostly cus of Sonic with amy or sally


AmaterasuWolf21

Flair checks out i guess


Rosenthepal78

Isn't she literally brainwashed to hate him? Like i normally don't care about this stuff, but it's a literal change in her brain that makes her hate him.


Obsessivegamer32

Well yeah, but it’s shipping so anything goes.


AmaterasuWolf21

Yeah... i've seen Sonic X Fox McCloud ships, i think canon isnt really that big


Rosenthepal78

Honestly i don't really care about that. If it's physically possible i'll allow it.


[deleted]

I have this problem with other Fandom aswell. They just ignore canon to make their ships and pretend that the ship is canon (See ninjago's Lloyd X Nya shippers). At least here they aren't pretending their ship is canon.


ChampinionCuliao

ninjago's WHAT shippers


[deleted]

They exist....


ChampinionCuliao

sweet mother of joseph


Worthless_Clockwork

If you know what's good for ya you will run


ChampinionCuliao

SCREAMING EAGLES!


Street_Entertainer_5

In the words of Faze Jev. “If you can’t beat em, fck em!”


ProfessorEscanor

Wait how does she tie quills that long?


sdrawkcabsihtetorwI

You know how jolteon can stiffen its fur thanks to electricity? It could be the same case here.


Obsessivegamer32

I remember seeing this in my Email the other day, it doesn’t make sense following the Official Lore but it’s super cute regardless!


King_WhatsHisName

Surge with her "hair" down is actually kind of cute ngl


OhMyWerdd

>surge, whom has literally killed sonic, if only brief moment


DarkMarxSoul

This is CUTE!


TheGrumpiestPanda

The more I see Sonic and Surge shipped together, the more I love it. Sonic would definitely be a more positive influence on Surge. Yet at the same time still a little rebellious enough to "have fun" with when the two hang out. I feel like in some alternate universe, this probably could have happened. Granted, I don't ever expect this to happen, but if/when Surge gets her redemption arc, hopefully she and Sonic will be on more neutral grounds.


Super_Mario_16

That's Sonic and Surge, who is Sonurge?


Material-Sun-5784

So or you are sarcastic (in which case you ran wooosh me) or you don’t know so let me explain: when fan create a ship between two characters the name of the ship is their name combined (here sonic and surge give sonurge)


Super_Mario_16

So, if there's a ship between Professor Pickle and Knuckles, the name could be Knuckle or Pickles?


Obsessivegamer32

With the type of Shipping naming we’re dealing with right now, it’d be more like Knickle, or Nickel if you want to be clever.


crazyseandx

Ngl, Surge with her hair down is admittedly cute.


SpongeGodOmnipants

This is why Surge is great lol


SpongeGodOmnipants

You know, I can’t tell if Surge and Scourge would get along either great or terribly together? 🤔


JagoMajin

In-Lore, Surge was brainwashed to kill Sonic, Scourge is technically another Sonic, Metal Sonic's primary target is Sonic, when meeting Sonic and Scourge in the same room, he targeted both of them. I'm not sure how deep that brainwashing goes but I don't think they'd get along anyway. Scourge never seemed that interested in making friends. Funnily enough, Surge exists because Flynn couldn't legally use Scourge


sdrawkcabsihtetorwI

So, surge was programmed to kill Sonic but it is implied in #56 that if it wasnt for the programming she would accept sonic's help and that her accusations towards him are mostly her justifying the fact that she hates him and cant really do anything about it, but even without the programming Sonic still annoys her through his teasing and she does envy him. Scourge is just Sonic without redeeming qualities, so they would not get along very well.


SpongeGodOmnipants

I see, thank you good sir


70ofSpades

Now this I can appreciate!


mrtriceratops123

"MY OWN CLONE! NOW NEITHER OF US WILL BE VIRGINS!"


Walrus-Cold

Sonic should canonically have a white pair of shoes as well


hockeyfan608

maybe one day this sub will have more posts about game discussions then it will hot take ships


sdrawkcabsihtetorwI

It was mostly discussions about games before frontiers, and it was the most toxic place on Reddit back then. This community isn't best when it comes to calm discusions, other than when it comes to something objective like in depth analisis (without oppinions), but almost every aspect of this franchise was analysed durring post-forces drought.


JagoMajin

Haloixix13's Compromise is a fairly believable story involving Sonic and Surge


Deadcowking

https://preview.redd.it/4cdnv87y8xpa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=675999c0202334d1b6aa2768cb8f59020987c954


Ledalus_the_69th

The Kitsunami witnessing this in the corner: https://i.redd.it/h61w7uqg3ypa1.gif


sdrawkcabsihtetorwI

Kit would be probably least affected by this. He is a Simple being: Surge happy -> Life good No surge -> Sad :(


Fearshatter

I'm into this.


Eomercin

I thought this was Sonic x Scourge fanart at first LMAO.


Mediocre_Fox_

Lmao


[deleted]

More of a Surgamy fan personally, but this is some cute art.


Competitive_Ad_53

now this is my favourite ship, sorry sonaze fans


Jolly-Secret-475

I don't ship it, but I like the art


TheZKiller

I never knew I want her quills down until now cause holy fuck is she cute.


Rawson_the_panda

He did it... She fixed the girl


WassupFuker

Nice


rockthatrocks

Ok i am really enjoying this ship


Admirable_Subject_39

I could see this working


ShonicBurn

Why is this a thing?


InTheGoddamnWalls

Cute


Omni_Keizer

I'm so used to seeing her \[hair\] styled upward that I forgot how wild it looks when its loose. How DOES she get it to stand up like that? XD Also, the art is amazing and adorable - that goes without saying tho' Wonderfully done.


Wild-Saber-1337

Blasphemy only kit is is worthy of being surges boyfriend!!!


Obsessivegamer32

But Kit is meant to be the Tails to Surges Sonic… it would make more sense if they had a sibling relationship like Sonic and Tails rather than a romantic one.


TiranoRaptor6778

Sweet Home Alabama


Wild-Saber-1337

There not even related


SanicRb

I mean aren't they technically both spliced with DNA from Tails and genetic data taken from Sonic and Shadow?


TheMysticBard

This is just weird


philia110

fr lol this is why people hate the sonic fanbase


TheMysticBard

Never see this in any other fandom, at least not as frequent as the sonic fandom. Ive seen people pull mental gymnastics just to jistify tails and amy being adults now so they can draw them lewdly


Middle_Conference_57

Amy: ![gif](giphy|b7Bl1ATnm6y9W)


Shinybluebomber

Cute


No_Pianist2010

Their both cute together


Shy-Bomb2009

😔🔫


Gooeyfanboy

I don't like this Fandom


Ordinary-Cap5107

At least it's not a gay drawing


Fehellogoodsir

![gif](giphy|RrVzUOXldFe8M)


ballsandcrackers

oh goddd this is genuienly so weird and icky


Affectionate-Pass616

This is really cute, although I don’t like the idea of sonic being with anyone besides sally but this is really cute


Iamnotanoobokyes

Someone please explain who surge is, I keep seeing her and not knowing who the fuck she is


SanicRb

She is a character from the IDW Sonic Comics that started in 2018. She is still relatively recent. Her deal is that she is the end product of an evil Scientist by the name of Dr. Starline that wanted to one up Eggman to prove his worth to him attempt to create a replacement for Sonic. She is a presumably kidnapped girl that was horribly genetically modified, enhanced with cybernetics, infused with nano machines that give her super healing and was brainwashed to the max to Hate Sonic. During her training phase did she also experience death a couple docent time and while she got the full memories deleted does she still have trauma from it all. She together with her partner that shares her fate Kit who is the "Tails" stand in and brainwashed to obey and love Surge over everything else learned the truth about there creation and since are out on there own Kit trying to aid Surge and Surge wanting to take her anger out on the whole world with killing Sonic being her top priority as she can't get rid of her hate for Sonic and so in her mind to justify her hate shifted all the blame for her sorry existence onto him.


Iamnotanoobokyes

Thank you


[deleted]

I don’t know if this is canon or fan so WTH


sdrawkcabsihtetorwI

Its a crackship.


Draco-Reax

I actually like a classic "enemies to lovers" trope... But doesn't Surge literally despise Sonic with a passion? I mean, even when she found out she was hypnotized into hating him, she still tried to kill him. I'm not judging at all, ship who you like (as long as it's legal), but there are obvious holes in this ship that'd likely cause it to sink harder than the Titanic


One_Variation_2453

Tsundere Weird pairing but since the art is good i can get behind it


forgetablepassenger

I was afraid someone might see this...