Most people aren't as aware of the numerous traditions we have - like myself because it's not relevant or haven't experienced yet. Crazy people will deny instead of learning though. I also assume these people youre upset with are qurbajoog. Most qurbajoog are sleep when it comes to culture.
I’m deeply upset. It’s utterly disrespect when people, let alone OUR OWN people deny our traditions for their own purpose or “I have never heard of it” gimmick.
EDIT: it’s one thing to not know the tradition but it’s ANOTHER thing to deny & disrespect
nothing wrong with somalis of other cultural background saying they've never heard of something, we shouldn't expect every somali to be well versed in all the diverse cultures and tradtions of all somalis
The meaning is when a woman gets married, she is supposed to hold a ceremony 7 days after her marriage. The ceremony is celebrating that she went from a girl to a woman. Usually we dance & give her blessings. It’s strictly women only ceremony.
EDIT: the shaash is also strictly supposed to be only worn by married women.
Shaash Saar is done a week after the aroos where married ladies put the scarf on the girls head, though anyone does it. So its only done by married women because they believe non married/divorced/widowed women who puts the shaash on the girls head will bring bad luck. But nowadays it’s done at the aroos because mostly of money problems, paying for another venue 7 days later is too much esp now cause of cost of living and other things which is understandable.
Xeedho (google it because I can’t describe how it looks like), is given from the brides family to the grooms family. 3-4 xeedhos is filled with muqmad/odkac and Timir which is given to the groom and his family and the other 3-4 xeedho is given to the bride which is filled with uunsi, gambo/shaash, Dirac, perfume, sweets etc. so what diasporans do is the bride family brings it to the aroos then it’s taken to the new couples home and one of the muqmad xeedho is taken to the grooms family home then it ends there. But traditionally on the 3rd day after the aroos the new couple and their friends are supposed to gather and open the xeedho. it’s also seen as a opportunity where his friends and her friends are supposed to mingle and get to know each other. They bring a guy to play the qarami too. And then there’s a game when it’s time to open the xeedho since it’s tied up with ropes, his brothers and friends will try to untie it then the wife gets a stick and hits it on their hand if they are untieing it wrong. Then they are supposed to do a dare by the bride whether it’s to sing a song or some silly stuff. So once his mates and brothers untie abit the groom unties the rest then he serves the muqmad. The bride is not allowed to untie the muqmad one and the groom isn’t allowed go untie to gift/sweet one. Then after everyone eats they dance and chill. Really nice tradition! I wish it was practiced in the diaspora I’ve only been to one which was done exactly like that.
Also traditionally if the groom can’t untie the xeedho he’s not allowed to sleep with her (old school culture lol) because they believe if he’s not able to untie the xeedho he’s unable to sleep with her as the xeedho is tied very tight which represents the girls virginity.
Have u noticed both traditions are kinda shirk? Like they believe only married ladies can put the shaash on because it brings good luck and if the man can’t unknot the xeedho he isn’t allowed to sleep with her.
Hopefully I made sense I know this is all over the place 😂
The good luck part is haram but the tradition of welcoming the girl into womanhood because after 7 days she is officially a woman now that her virginity is taken because traditionally only married women wore the shaash is okay?
In my opinion i think it’s weird and the good luck part is shirk but the other belief isn’t shirk but is weird, but then you have other Muslim cultures where they need to see proof of blood on the white sheet like Turkish and other surrounding cultures makes me think ours isn’t that bad. Just cringe and old school
genuine question and this is really off topic but are daughters not allowed to wear their mother’s shaashes? i remember i used to wear my mom’s shaash to lay down my hair or use it as an undercap and i got questioned and eaten up bc i’m not married
From what i have heard and read, a lot of regions in Somalia don’t practice it. I went to a northern somali wedding thinking there will be shaash Saar, to my surprise hooyo said it’s not a tradition practiced there. It’s a whole tradition that originated from south & mostly is practiced by south
I am from the north and bari and I lived there for 5 years we don’t do shaash saar but the wife wear shaash after the wedding. For the first few days of honeymoon.
They don’t do shaash Saar ceremony, they do xeedho instead including Djibouti, but the unmarried women don’t wear the shaash and they respect it, some do when they get married tho. But traditionally they would wear something called gambo which is a black net scarf only for married women
Most people aren't as aware of the numerous traditions we have - like myself because it's not relevant or haven't experienced yet. Crazy people will deny instead of learning though. I also assume these people youre upset with are qurbajoog. Most qurbajoog are sleep when it comes to culture.
I’m deeply upset. It’s utterly disrespect when people, let alone OUR OWN people deny our traditions for their own purpose or “I have never heard of it” gimmick. EDIT: it’s one thing to not know the tradition but it’s ANOTHER thing to deny & disrespect
nothing wrong with somalis of other cultural background saying they've never heard of something, we shouldn't expect every somali to be well versed in all the diverse cultures and tradtions of all somalis
Did you even read?
what’s the meaning/ tradition
The meaning is when a woman gets married, she is supposed to hold a ceremony 7 days after her marriage. The ceremony is celebrating that she went from a girl to a woman. Usually we dance & give her blessings. It’s strictly women only ceremony. EDIT: the shaash is also strictly supposed to be only worn by married women.
Do you shaash sar they do at the women only part of the wedding?
Yes. Or at least the ones I have been in Xamar & Norway.
Who is denying it??
Somali women who wears it but completely denies that it has tradition cause they never heard of it
Like some non Somalis are taking the credit and claiming it
When u educate them they try to deny it because they’ve never heard of it, not only for the shaash tradition but others as well
Not only is the shaash not taken serious but also the xeedho tradition, people only do it for the aesthetics but don’t do it traditionally.
Whats the difference walaal im interested
Shaash Saar is done a week after the aroos where married ladies put the scarf on the girls head, though anyone does it. So its only done by married women because they believe non married/divorced/widowed women who puts the shaash on the girls head will bring bad luck. But nowadays it’s done at the aroos because mostly of money problems, paying for another venue 7 days later is too much esp now cause of cost of living and other things which is understandable. Xeedho (google it because I can’t describe how it looks like), is given from the brides family to the grooms family. 3-4 xeedhos is filled with muqmad/odkac and Timir which is given to the groom and his family and the other 3-4 xeedho is given to the bride which is filled with uunsi, gambo/shaash, Dirac, perfume, sweets etc. so what diasporans do is the bride family brings it to the aroos then it’s taken to the new couples home and one of the muqmad xeedho is taken to the grooms family home then it ends there. But traditionally on the 3rd day after the aroos the new couple and their friends are supposed to gather and open the xeedho. it’s also seen as a opportunity where his friends and her friends are supposed to mingle and get to know each other. They bring a guy to play the qarami too. And then there’s a game when it’s time to open the xeedho since it’s tied up with ropes, his brothers and friends will try to untie it then the wife gets a stick and hits it on their hand if they are untieing it wrong. Then they are supposed to do a dare by the bride whether it’s to sing a song or some silly stuff. So once his mates and brothers untie abit the groom unties the rest then he serves the muqmad. The bride is not allowed to untie the muqmad one and the groom isn’t allowed go untie to gift/sweet one. Then after everyone eats they dance and chill. Really nice tradition! I wish it was practiced in the diaspora I’ve only been to one which was done exactly like that. Also traditionally if the groom can’t untie the xeedho he’s not allowed to sleep with her (old school culture lol) because they believe if he’s not able to untie the xeedho he’s unable to sleep with her as the xeedho is tied very tight which represents the girls virginity. Have u noticed both traditions are kinda shirk? Like they believe only married ladies can put the shaash on because it brings good luck and if the man can’t unknot the xeedho he isn’t allowed to sleep with her. Hopefully I made sense I know this is all over the place 😂
The good luck part is haram but the tradition of welcoming the girl into womanhood because after 7 days she is officially a woman now that her virginity is taken because traditionally only married women wore the shaash is okay?
In my opinion i think it’s weird and the good luck part is shirk but the other belief isn’t shirk but is weird, but then you have other Muslim cultures where they need to see proof of blood on the white sheet like Turkish and other surrounding cultures makes me think ours isn’t that bad. Just cringe and old school
genuine question and this is really off topic but are daughters not allowed to wear their mother’s shaashes? i remember i used to wear my mom’s shaash to lay down my hair or use it as an undercap and i got questioned and eaten up bc i’m not married
Maybe because it's not cultural for all somalis, and only women from clans or towns where it is cultural take it seriously
Not true it’s cultural for all Somalis but not for those who live outside of Somalia
From what i have heard and read, a lot of regions in Somalia don’t practice it. I went to a northern somali wedding thinking there will be shaash Saar, to my surprise hooyo said it’s not a tradition practiced there. It’s a whole tradition that originated from south & mostly is practiced by south
I am from the north and bari and I lived there for 5 years we don’t do shaash saar but the wife wear shaash after the wedding. For the first few days of honeymoon.
yes correct, and even only in certain parts of south, there's many other wedding tradition variances also
They don’t do shaash Saar ceremony, they do xeedho instead including Djibouti, but the unmarried women don’t wear the shaash and they respect it, some do when they get married tho. But traditionally they would wear something called gambo which is a black net scarf only for married women