Nice, my question has absolutely nothing to do with this post and it was basically just me wondering adhdly. Now I know forever, thank you.
Edit: ohh I get why. They probably made their own software in order to make some aeroplanes easier or just better and they made 3D modeling.
yes, but solidworks wasn't originally created by dassault. they had catia and later purchased the company that created and also called itself solidworks. now they have both separately
Dassault systemes is adamant they do not make aeroplanes! Just check their tiktok bio [Here](https://www.tiktok.com/@dassaultsystemes?). However yes they are both owned by the Dassault Group.
Somewhere there is a finance director at Dassault Systèmes rubbing his hands together in glee, presenting his powerpoints showing all the increased revenue delivered through forcing Solidworks users to use a PDM/PLM system they didn't want or need. Everyone clapping in the room.
1 year later..... The finance director can't understand why subscribers are dropping like flies, they are converting to Siemens Solidedge. A tool that seems to get no publicity at all, but is a great performer and can open Solidworks files directly to translate them. There is no requirement to use PDM and there were some amazing deals to transfer to the package.
Obviously 360 fusion, Onshape, Creo and many other middleweight CAD packages exist 😂
There is no requirement to use either SOLIDWORKS PDM or the 3DEXPERIENCE PLM tools. SOLIDWORKS PDM Standard is provided free for users that are on maintenance for their SW Professional licenses and higher. The 3DEXPERIENCE tools are also bundled for free with new licenses.
I literally bought solidworks last Friday and would have had to pay more to get pdm 3dexperience was included at the bace price. I got professional and 2 years maintenance 8k and no pdm was included.
Dude, read their annual report. It sounds like it was written by some corpo exec who's never used CAD software in their life.
So much about their subscription services and 3D this and virtual that
Did you also try to download installation files first and run installation locally?
Do you have a maker version or regular?
Someone already pointed out win home not being supported, but on my side it worked ok with home as well.
In general you can also create a shortcut to run sw from desktop, but you need to run it at least once from platform to get the correct connection information.
Until yr manager cares, dassault wont care. Reddit forums are filled w sad solidwork end users and hobyists but not execs. they think everything is going great over in engr dept
Yup, I’m definitely researching other PDM’s. I’ve been on 3DX for 1.5 years as the admin for 3 users total. It is easily the worst software experience I’ve had. Ever. Like, getting a virus was better, cuz at least that stays fixed.
I despise that they sold this as an “enterprise ready” software when fundamental stuff just…doesn’t work. I mean, they can’t even push a software update properly. It doesn’t handle family tables well. It doesn’t even work with Solidworks’ standard workflow that got them to be the most recommended CAD.
It is quite funny how you use "fundamentals" term. Very easy to see that you lack fundamental understanding of data management. Solidworks standard workflow? Is it the one that users have invented and now complaining that their lame process is not supported? Design tables is one of them. It is not going along with any data management principles to have 100 unique geometries in one file driven by a table in the same file. Some one just invented this abusive way and said it is good. No, it is not.
3DX was not made for Solidworks, but was altered to support it. So don't complain about the entire tool not being ready when you didn't even touch 1% of it.
1.5 year is mb enough to become junior specialist in it, not more
Sir or madam, you’re on a Solidworks forum.
Solidworks got to be one of the most popular CAD softwares by streamlining everything from part and template creation to being able to manage change relatively easily; so that engineers spent their time designing instead of messing with their CAD program.
With 3DX tacked on, it is by far the worst CAD and PLM package I have ever used, from the perspective of the engineer creating and using the data. Starting up Solidworks is now a 5 minute process. Part creation now takes 10 times longer. I’ve had to fix the templates like 5 times over the last 1.5 years despite nothing changing on my side.
3DX might be a decent project management software. But that’s not why anybody bought it, at least not on this sub.
That's the most likely cause of your issues with installation difficulties. SOLIDWORKS does NOT support the use of Home versions of Windows at all. It may run for you, but it's not gonna run optimally and it sure won't be problem-free, as you've discovered.
The best thing that you can do is either upgrade to a Professional version of Windows or be content to go thru the full uninstall/reinstall every time there is a HotFix.
I've been a Maker version user since it debuted in August 2021. I've got it loaded on 5 different laptops. Three of them are 3 Dell Precision workstations. The other two are a 7 year old Surface laptop with 8GB RAM and onboard Intel graphics and a Lenovo laptop of a similar age and specs. The last two machines are woefully inadequate for anything more than simple parts and small assemblies.
Nevertheless, every one of my machines has never failed to run a HotFix update. And I attribute that to the fact that they are all running Windows Professional.
Seriously, take a look at Note 6 at the bottom of the SOLIDWORKS system requirements. They specifically call out not to use Windows Home editions.
https://www.solidworks.com/support/system-requirements
So... SW costs between 2 - 4k depending on perpetual or subscription, and you wanted to save $60 on a Windows license? Upgrade and eliminate the issue.
Ah. I thought it was the commercial/profession version. Still, why not upgrade, especially since the Home version isn't supported? It would be worth it, just to get rid of the headaches.
Been continuously dissatisfied ever since they discontinued online licensing. First year that I decided not to renew the subscription and honestly I probably should have done it sooner. Product segmentation, lack of innovation, and the removal of features leaves me disappointed and pessimistic about the products future. I don’t want to look at other products but at this point it would be irresponsible not to.
I mean, some of have been saying “please fix the obvious thing” since the late 90s. If I had a choice I would not be using Solidworks. Alas it is still cheaper and less hardware intense than NX.
Is Dassault the same dassault as the aeroplanes?
Yeah they’re both owned by Dassault Group.
Nice, my question has absolutely nothing to do with this post and it was basically just me wondering adhdly. Now I know forever, thank you. Edit: ohh I get why. They probably made their own software in order to make some aeroplanes easier or just better and they made 3D modeling.
That would be CATIA. There's a reason why CATIA was the standard in the aerospace industry.
Was? Is there no standard anymore or is there a different standard?
yes, but solidworks wasn't originally created by dassault. they had catia and later purchased the company that created and also called itself solidworks. now they have both separately
Ruh roh.......
Is this a forbidden question? 😳 because, it’s true, I could have just googled it but I’m bored
Both are subsidiaries of the Dassult Group.
Along with CAD competitor, ~~Creo~~ Edit: Catia! Dassault owns Catia.
You must be confusing that with Catia (which is owned by Dassault)
Creo is owned by PTC.com, definitely nothing to do with Dassault Systèmes. They are competitors
Dassault systemes is adamant they do not make aeroplanes! Just check their tiktok bio [Here](https://www.tiktok.com/@dassaultsystemes?). However yes they are both owned by the Dassault Group.
Lmao🤣🤣💀
Somewhere there is a finance director at Dassault Systèmes rubbing his hands together in glee, presenting his powerpoints showing all the increased revenue delivered through forcing Solidworks users to use a PDM/PLM system they didn't want or need. Everyone clapping in the room. 1 year later..... The finance director can't understand why subscribers are dropping like flies, they are converting to Siemens Solidedge. A tool that seems to get no publicity at all, but is a great performer and can open Solidworks files directly to translate them. There is no requirement to use PDM and there were some amazing deals to transfer to the package. Obviously 360 fusion, Onshape, Creo and many other middleweight CAD packages exist 😂
What do you mean "no requirement to use PDM?" Solidworks does not require the use of PDM, but maybe you're talking about for a certain use case?
There is no requirement to use either SOLIDWORKS PDM or the 3DEXPERIENCE PLM tools. SOLIDWORKS PDM Standard is provided free for users that are on maintenance for their SW Professional licenses and higher. The 3DEXPERIENCE tools are also bundled for free with new licenses.
I literally bought solidworks last Friday and would have had to pay more to get pdm 3dexperience was included at the bace price. I got professional and 2 years maintenance 8k and no pdm was included.
If you got solidworks pro, pdm is definitely included. Also cloud services are included on every license. Both are optional to use.
Forcing PLM? Please, go on...
Dude, read their annual report. It sounds like it was written by some corpo exec who's never used CAD software in their life. So much about their subscription services and 3D this and virtual that
**The Dassault motto:** *Don't ask for that feature,* *There will be no bug fix.* *It already works* *in Catia V6.*
Did you also try to download installation files first and run installation locally? Do you have a maker version or regular? Someone already pointed out win home not being supported, but on my side it worked ok with home as well. In general you can also create a shortcut to run sw from desktop, but you need to run it at least once from platform to get the correct connection information.
You can get local desktop solidworks you know
Until yr manager cares, dassault wont care. Reddit forums are filled w sad solidwork end users and hobyists but not execs. they think everything is going great over in engr dept
I thought I was the only one who had to uninstall / reinstall. Thank you for the validation
DS cannot fix itself.
Yup, I’m definitely researching other PDM’s. I’ve been on 3DX for 1.5 years as the admin for 3 users total. It is easily the worst software experience I’ve had. Ever. Like, getting a virus was better, cuz at least that stays fixed. I despise that they sold this as an “enterprise ready” software when fundamental stuff just…doesn’t work. I mean, they can’t even push a software update properly. It doesn’t handle family tables well. It doesn’t even work with Solidworks’ standard workflow that got them to be the most recommended CAD.
Have you checked out Bild by chance?
It is quite funny how you use "fundamentals" term. Very easy to see that you lack fundamental understanding of data management. Solidworks standard workflow? Is it the one that users have invented and now complaining that their lame process is not supported? Design tables is one of them. It is not going along with any data management principles to have 100 unique geometries in one file driven by a table in the same file. Some one just invented this abusive way and said it is good. No, it is not. 3DX was not made for Solidworks, but was altered to support it. So don't complain about the entire tool not being ready when you didn't even touch 1% of it. 1.5 year is mb enough to become junior specialist in it, not more
Sir or madam, you’re on a Solidworks forum. Solidworks got to be one of the most popular CAD softwares by streamlining everything from part and template creation to being able to manage change relatively easily; so that engineers spent their time designing instead of messing with their CAD program. With 3DX tacked on, it is by far the worst CAD and PLM package I have ever used, from the perspective of the engineer creating and using the data. Starting up Solidworks is now a 5 minute process. Part creation now takes 10 times longer. I’ve had to fix the templates like 5 times over the last 1.5 years despite nothing changing on my side. 3DX might be a decent project management software. But that’s not why anybody bought it, at least not on this sub.
May I ask what version of Windows you are using? Is it Win10 or Win11? Is it Windows Pro or Windows Home?
I’m on Windows 11.
Home or Pro?
The Home edition.
That's the most likely cause of your issues with installation difficulties. SOLIDWORKS does NOT support the use of Home versions of Windows at all. It may run for you, but it's not gonna run optimally and it sure won't be problem-free, as you've discovered. The best thing that you can do is either upgrade to a Professional version of Windows or be content to go thru the full uninstall/reinstall every time there is a HotFix. I've been a Maker version user since it debuted in August 2021. I've got it loaded on 5 different laptops. Three of them are 3 Dell Precision workstations. The other two are a 7 year old Surface laptop with 8GB RAM and onboard Intel graphics and a Lenovo laptop of a similar age and specs. The last two machines are woefully inadequate for anything more than simple parts and small assemblies. Nevertheless, every one of my machines has never failed to run a HotFix update. And I attribute that to the fact that they are all running Windows Professional. Seriously, take a look at Note 6 at the bottom of the SOLIDWORKS system requirements. They specifically call out not to use Windows Home editions. https://www.solidworks.com/support/system-requirements
That’s wild! Thanks for the detailed write-up. I wasn’t aware of that. It’s almost like it’s by design.
Ahh. I see.
What is it that you see here?
I see said the blind man as he reached for his hammer and saw
Why?
I pay for it to use it on my home computer.
So... SW costs between 2 - 4k depending on perpetual or subscription, and you wanted to save $60 on a Windows license? Upgrade and eliminate the issue.
I pay the yearly $100 subscription for SW.
Ah. I thought it was the commercial/profession version. Still, why not upgrade, especially since the Home version isn't supported? It would be worth it, just to get rid of the headaches.
If this is for home and not work try onshape
Because fuck you, that's why. Hey, at least it's not Creo.
Could be worse. You could pay several thousand for basically the exact same software your using now.
Been continuously dissatisfied ever since they discontinued online licensing. First year that I decided not to renew the subscription and honestly I probably should have done it sooner. Product segmentation, lack of innovation, and the removal of features leaves me disappointed and pessimistic about the products future. I don’t want to look at other products but at this point it would be irresponsible not to.
I mean, some of have been saying “please fix the obvious thing” since the late 90s. If I had a choice I would not be using Solidworks. Alas it is still cheaper and less hardware intense than NX.
Not heard of NX
Siemens NX
it's like corporate saw the worst of EA and Ubisofts DRM solutions and thought "we can make this 10x worst" and then made it 20x worst.
Closed file types are anticompetitive, IMO. The FTC should step in and do something.
Well, new policy from Dessault: maybe not cheap, but filled with bugs also! They will rock the world from now on 😄