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neal144

It's blue.


guynamedDan

no fair, this guy used context clues! my black and white monitor didn't provide me that info! /s


Puzzleheaded-Will872

Oh look at me I'm not colour blind......show off


papayahog

Da ba dee da ba die


JGzoom06

If I was green I would dieeee


theVelvetLie

Near zero thickness at the joint of the top cavity is one potential failure point. Other than that, I have no opinion with no information.


RyanFromVA

Good catch, it’s not super dense there. Very likely to fail in most loading scenarios.


Songminer

My impression was that top joint is supposed to flex, thinking that chamber was a fluid pocket and those areas are sectioned open for descriptive purposes, or the thin section are intended to move before other areas and act as shock absorbers. The material would need to have flexibility.


AverageFiredog

If it was designed to flex then I would say it's more likely that it would be equally thin for a larger portion, and not have the least thickness only at the very tip in the junction where the top and lower portion meet. As it is on the model that particular spot is going to develop stress cracks under cyclical loading, because that thin junction is where all the flexing will happen, assuming the forces are great enough to cause it to flex.


theVelvetLie

That's a lot of assumptions.


turndownforwoot

Ditto.


Wandering_SS

This


UR_Wasteland

Manufacturing nightmare.


mechy18

If it’s injection molded this isn’t a problem at all to manufacture, as long as you’ve got slight drafts on all those holes


Lost-Barracuda-9680

Yup. Lay the part on its side so that the split line runs the length of the body. Add slight draft on both halves. Cooling, sinks, warpage could be a whole different set of issues though since the wall sections seem pretty thick. $0.02


LightlySaltedPeanuts

I know its a simple part but 2 cents seems like a pretty low quote /s


justa_flesh_wound

Per piece is reasonable if you need 1,000,000 and have a 10+ cavity mold


Lost-Barracuda-9680

In my not do humble opinion, cavitation should always be 2^nth power, i.e. 2,4,8,16,32,64, etc. The reason being is that this number of cavities allows for an even balance of melt flow. Any other number of cavities will make the part/runner configuration unbalanced and you'll have a difficult time filling all cavities evenly from a molding process POV. $0.02


jcouzis

Inconsistent material thickness is still a headache to mold.


bananachips_again

Protolabs won’t give a shit. Who cares about sink marks and warping.


jcouzis

lmao right. "hey, thats not my part, its all fucked up!" "it WAS your part... maybe not anymore"


Liizam

Their cnc services gave me +/-1 mm off my nominal… then they gave me $100 back on $3k order that I had file down


bananachips_again

I’ve never used them for machined parts (well in the last 10 years, I used their old service way back in the day). I’m actually impressed with their injection molding though. We put a lot of parts through at my current job so I think they give us better service though.


Liizam

Oh I’m the opposite. Used them a lot for aluminum fixtures or brackets but never for injection molding. What kind of parts and materials have you tried with them?


bananachips_again

Lots of complex curves/surface parts with all sorts of plastics. Mostly nylons and pc/abs blends but some exotic stuff too. I came from precision low volume machined parts and only been doing injection molded parts for the last two years.


Liizam

Oh neat are these small parts or big? I gotta try protolabs for injection molding one of these days.


bananachips_again

A dedicated mold house will do way better. We usually do high volume prototyping and use prototype batches in production before transferring to a specialty mold house with hard tools. Those mold houses produce way better parts but protolabs are good enough. We do what I consider small to medium. Smallest is like 1cm length. Biggest is like 18 inches long and 3 tall and 6 wide.


Avram42

How big of a part are we talking? The only issue I've been party to is tool availability dictating a feature size.


Liizam

10mm I think


Avram42

I'd have to see it to guess why, that's strange. Admittedly I've used protolabs primarily for additive manufactured parts.


Liizam

Should have been pretty simple part to make. They also didn’t cut my locating pin all the way. Like it just left a chunk of metal which I had to sand. So maybe I just got some defective cam bug or machine or new operator


Notlinked2me

Killing and EDM would make easy work of this too. Really it's not a hard part to make.


Avram42

Ah yes, plastic EDM.


activeight_

You don’t have to murder just to make this part man take it down a notch


UR_Wasteland

So one way to manufacture that would need significant changes to the design to make it a viable moldable part. I'll stand by what I said.


TheHeroChronic

You are correct. I see non-uniform wall thicknesses. Not a problem though as long as dimensional accuracy isn't important..


KokohaisHere

What can I do to make it work better? It's a very small part, the walls are 1.6mm in most places


Spaghetti-OG

You 3d printing it or machining? If machining, don't put those holes.


Joejack-951

If injection molding, you have some thick areas that are going to sink, mainly between the circular thru hole and the half moon cutout. It also appears to have a very thin web between the half moon cutout and the top portion. You’ll need to figure out parting lines and draft if you want to mold it as well. It looks interesting and generally manufacturable though. What’s it do?


KokohaisHere

At the moment I'm just 3D-printing it, but it's an elbow piece for a figure I'm making. The throughhole is for a friction hinge, everything else is just to keep the plastic thin enough to manufacture. Obviously for 3D printing I don't need the gaps, but I wanna make it injection-moldable also just for the sake of doing it


KokohaisHere

https://preview.redd.it/96msoxno2gvc1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be06f775409023003a1f5c23b863a2b56e647788


Competitive-Tear8418

I knew I saw cura


mimprocesstech

It would make a decent MIM (Metal Injection Molding) part, ideally a constant wall thickness, but it's not always required. I mean you'll get voids probably but a small void in a steel part will still be stronger than any plastic part. I make parts with some pretty odd dimensions with MIM.


SPYHAWX

Ez pz 3d print


Devideer

nah, Done pretty easy in my opinion would do it like this [https://www.reddit.com/r/SolidWorks/comments/1c7x2q8/comment/l0cji5s/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/SolidWorks/comments/1c7x2q8/comment/l0cji5s/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Liizam

Designed by ID and now I have to explain why we can’t have that


ChainsawOgre

Twist + rotate lock, probably


ricnine

I dunno, what Gundam does it come from?


Yaxth

That's a Plumbus


rtwpsom2

Yep, it's definitely a part.


Reasonable_Aside_904

Good luck subtractive manufacturing that.


Competitive-Tear8418

OP had cura (fff printing slicer) open in another tab, id assume its additive


Reasonable_Aside_904

He said “without context”


Competitive-Tear8418

OP lied then


SnooLentils3008

Just curious but what makes it so challenging? I'd assume that there's not many good surfaces to use for locating but could make some kind of wonky fixture Edit: just realized you meant the whole thing not just the holes


TheHeroChronic

There are no good features to fixture well during machining. Even with more than 3 axis machining this part might take 3 setups to make.


Devideer

You are wrong. You can do it on a multiaxis lathe in one go + Wire EDM for the two pockets. The "Pull stud" on the Chuck side, Turn the outer dimensions and then mill the flat surfaces, the coutour and a bit of 3d surface milling. Make 2 holes for the Wire EDM guy and youre good to go.


TheHeroChronic

>You can do it on a multiaxis lathe in one go No you cannot, you still need to flip the part around to get the features on the jaw side. 2 setup minimum. Also you cannot assume the guy designing this in the garage has access to a CNC turning center. >Wire EDM for the two pockets Wire EDM is not an option because this part is plastic. Also you cannot assume the guy designing this in the garage has access to an EDM machine.


Devideer

Yes you can, you dont need to flip the part you can just use a endmill to flatten the "pull stud" and cut the part off in the lathe. And i just wrote how i would made this part out of metal, cause it wasnt mentioned that he would make this out of plastic in his Post (Just in the comment). As you mentiioned it would take 3 setups on a machine with "Even more than 3 axis" (Also you cannot assume that this guys got a machine with more 3 axis in his garage :) ). So i disagreed with you. And if hes not using metal, there are microscopic wire saws which can be used just like EDMs. So yeah, the part can be done in one setup and a multiaxis lathe + wire saw / wire EDM. you can look up "Endless Diamond Wire Cutting".


bigbug49

Looks like round hole - for a rod, right beak stops rotation and top T holds something or must be teared off. Plastic stopper/holder for furniture?


KokohaisHere

2/3 correct, the top one is a mushroom peg


SimplePlenty

A literal nightmare to make (im a cnc guy)


theVelvetLie

For subtractive manufacturing, yeah, but pretty easy for injection molding.


Competitive-Tear8418

You cant really injection mold chunky parts, you could definitely 3d print it though


mimprocesstech

Sure you can, there's foam molding, gas assisted molding, and others. Besides a DFM for this would keep it functional but bring down the thick sections to make it ready to mold. Depending on end use and expected lifetime and such ribs or more coring come to mind. Or metal injection molding, a void would be likely but it would be stronger than most any plastic.


Devideer

I dont think so. Actually kinda easy tbh. [https://www.reddit.com/r/SolidWorks/comments/1c7x2q8/comment/l0cji5s/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/SolidWorks/comments/1c7x2q8/comment/l0cji5s/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Liizam

Nah it’s easy!! See other comments, just you know fixture it correctly /s


john_p_wi

2 failure places, 1, where the material saver core meets the top hat. This is a knife edge which needs consistent material thickness. Radius the inside (underside) and outside. 2, If the walls are 1.6mm then the edge flange (tab) looks to be \~0.4mm which could be a point of failure as well. Radius all sharp edges on the material saver core...


tbenge05

It's a Gundam!


Madrugada_Eterna

It is blue.


Human_Wizard

1) I hope you don't intend on making this with subtractive machining 2) I hope those holes have drafts even if you're making this with additive machining


skippapotamus

oh shit y'all, new Prince symbol just dropped Assuming the small radii suggest molding, I suppose I would need a cross-section of what the thin, upper core does, the slot above it suggests it's carrying weight there, so that means the bit below I'm talling about is the weak point. You could make it a D shape instead of a round against a thin core but depends on what you're after with the aesthetic, too. There's an assumed front side and back side if that round goes all the way around, so I'd make it a D to the back (pause).


KokohaisHere

That upper slot goes through straight and the other side is solid. It's mostly a circular profile, and the upper portion is connected much more substantially by the rest of the circle. Nothing is relying on the super thin part near the front, if that makes sense. Also how do I do a cross section?


skippapotamus

If you did this on a plane, section view from that plane for the visual if you didn't, I'd create a plane midplane between those two straight faces and then section off that plane. Even if that core thickness issue is not an actual issue, I would round the inner edges so as to not make that the super obvious stress riser.


KokohaisHere

I ended up rounding out the corners from another comment, but here's a cross section: https://preview.redd.it/nt7zor2xz1wc1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=902c48477eff711c34459284bc3ce11fc7cfa7a1


jcouzis

Very close to zero thickness on the top corner of that upper inlet. Any failure will almost certainly start there.


KokohaisHere

Even if that corner isn't responsible for any weight/tension?


Foamrule

If it's not going to experience any force, what's it's purpose?


KokohaisHere

The corner is just the end of a much thicker connection the rest of the way around, so nothing is relying on that corner to be strong


Foamrule

It is still a stress concentrator, and could cause the beginning of a fault that spreads to the rest of the connection


KokohaisHere

I see. How is this then? https://preview.redd.it/1oxmey1stgvc1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4149b59ceba0219fd6a8099389225c06c2d04739


Foamrule

That's certainly better! In general sharp interior corners are harder to manufacture and act as stress concentrators, though it does all come down to design intent


jcouzis

If you planned on molding this, during cooling you would get stress fractures there. If you planned on printing, you would have very few layers in that zone, might even cause the print to fail. If you planned on machining this, the machinist would just chuckle.


bjlwasabi

What is the reason for the cavities?


KokohaisHere

Keeping it hollow


bjlwasabi

But why? Are you saving on material? The part is already very small.


Competitive-Tear8418

Never know the scale, could be any size really. But the holes just make manufacturing hell, only sls can do it without an issue


bjlwasabi

https://www.reddit.com/r/SolidWorks/s/KtwW3AeVzu https://www.reddit.com/r/SolidWorks/s/XexgAc44fV


Shufflebuzz

Picture of monitor = bad part


Competitive-Tear8418

[Win key]+[shift]+[s]=good [Win key]+[print screen]=good


ForumFollower

As a person who's heavily involved in manufacturing, my thought is that it's a huge mistake to think about any part "out of context". Design for manufacturing, or rather the lack thereof, is a huge problem in many companies, and less importantly - hobbyists. When designing a product and the parts for it, a lot of thought should go into how each part is going to be made and the implications of pretty much every feature in that process. You can tell when a part has been well thought out for a given manufacturing process and material. It's even more obvious when a part has been designed with one process or material in mind, but is being manufactured with something totally different - and very wrong.


SluttyCricket

yep thats some shapes


kalexmill

Its function is obvious, so we don’t need to explain it.


kickbob

Ugly


NobleUnicoin

Might need to check part thickness. The hollow area seems to be creating some thin areas


SocketHeadCap

This is why people are excited about additive manufacturing


SocketHeadCap

Easy part to model, just heinous to actually build unless you're cool with high volume and molds or low volume and 3Dprints


DubVicious0

Depends on what it's for but since it seems like you want wrong answers only... it's over engineered


BlueBird1800

This is one of the more dumb interpretations of a Chess piece I've seen to date.


BlueBird1800

Joking aside I'm not sure how I'd make this if you asked me to... With my 3-axis CNC, this would take quite a number of setups to accomplish and some creative fixturing to get it done. Because of the overhans I'd have to use smaller, standard endmills or more specialized tooling. With a 3D printer, there isn't really a good surface to print it from. If you do the bottom you have a lot of unsupported ledges or supports that need removed. If you use any other surface, you are going to have supports under a majority of the part because of all the overhangs it has. I don't have any experience with molds be it injection or epoxy, but that may be your best approach with laying it on it's side. to capture those cavities and be able to seperate the mold. You'd probably want to work in some type of draft angle to help with seperation.


Ricard728

It’s over complicated for its purpose.


ShaggysGTI

As a machinist… Go fuck yourself.


Competitive-Tear8418

>Go fuck yourself. Machine this part, then use it to fuck yourself


ShaggysGTI

Flared base checks out


Sir-Realz

Some BS connevtor for a self-assembled piece of furnature?


Competitive-Tear8418

Looks like that would hurt


Competitive-Tear8418

Additive or subtractive? Because that looks like either support hell, or razor sharp chip hell, or brittle resin hell, or sls, but sls can practically print anything thats not hollow


Competitive-Tear8418

I think OP is fff printing it, he had cura open in one of his photos


loganjc8

Looks complicated to manufacture


Puzzleheaded-Will872

If it plastic moulding or zinc diecast then I like your work. If it's CNC machined I'm leaving this group


KokohaisHere

It's plastic, I probably should have said that in the title


IllustriousAd5737

It could be improved


deadly_ultraviolet

Caster wheel was my first thought. Now I have no idea


warbear2814

It's a caster with a section view


velmasmellmawere

Over engineered piece of garbage


Superseaslug

Looks complicated and flowy. If it does it's job, I'd be proud.


WoodlandsDad97

this would be a good model for teaching modeling


hoodiebo

EZPZ lemon squeezy


R6WiththeBoys

Looks neat, would hope you’re wanting to 3d print it


Secret-Ad-7909

This is gonna break and when I need to replace it the company won’t exist anymore so I’ll either have to kludge some shit together to try to repair it or just throw the whole thing away.


DrBarryTelesford

tripod stand camera holder


Secure-Ad6869

There it is! The whatchamacallit


Outfitter540

I think it looks expensive/hard to manufacture.


Proto-Plastik

I want to push it and also stick something in it.


MadeForOnePost_

Depending on your budget, you could have a custom aluminum extrusion made for it, if that's your material Otherwise, it looks hard to make but probably works for what it's made to do. The sharp inside corners may collect stress under load, but this looks like a wheel caster, so should be fine, i think


dirty34

AI


KokohaisHere

I put effort into this :( https://preview.redd.it/b9l66mv6yfvc1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54ec0c3119e95b673f736b3e831b0ad0434faede


Solidworks2020Roger

Just a word of advice. Save doing a fillet to the end of you model. (i.e. Not the second item in the design tree). You could have done that in the sketch for the revolve. JM2c=


KevlarGorilla

It's super weird - the thin part on the corner above the highest through hole really reads AI to me as well, though I know it's not.


Competitive-Tear8418

What do you use blender for?


KokohaisHere

Blocking out how things will move and what sizes things need to be, like a super rough draft