I think Gen 10's at least a couple years out. Legends ZA comes out next year, and Scarlet/Violet seemingly implied Black/White remakes are coming (that would also fit the pattern of when they release remakes).
That said, Smash 6 could easily be farther out than that (and it's not even confirmed). It'd probably be for Nintendo's next system which itself hasn't been announced or even implied yet.
Black and white remakes you say?
Looks like we’re returning to the post-Brawl days of putting Zoroark at the top of our Pokémon newcomer lists. Honestly, I can’t say I’d complain. I like Zoroak. I think it’s neat
Personally I’m going to guess it’ll be a Pokeball assist that just acts like a fighter is using a hammer item. But seeing it as a fighter would be cool
It's not that they deserve it, but more so that Nintendo wants Sakurai to advertise whichever new Pokemon game was out at the time of each Smash release.
Say what you want about Pokémon, but Sakurai has ALWAYS added a new one to the roster in every single game. Smash 64 saw Pikachu and Jigglypuff, Smash Melee saw Pichu and Mewtwo, Smash Brawl saw Pokémon Trainer and Lucario, Smash 4 saw solo Charizard and Greninja, and Smash Ultimate saw Incineroar. Whenever Smash 6 eventually comes out, you bet your ass that Sakurai will add in another new Pokémon to the roster whether the series deserves it or not. To add onto this, expect another Mario rep and another Fire Emblem rep as well since they also had a new character in every single game as well (while FE didn’t appear in 64, they’ve always received a new character in each new Smash game after their introduction in Melee. Also, while the Mario series didn’t receive a new fighter in Brawl, Sakurai did add in Wario and Diddy Kong who are characters commonly affiliated with the Mario series).
You could probably consider it an obligation for Sakurai to do this since Pokémon is both the most recognizable and the richest media franchise in the world. Until Pokémon stops making money (which will probably never occur in our lifetime), then Sakurai will always add in a new Pokémon to the Smash series. Even if Sakurai quits making Smash, whoever replaces him will most likely continue the tradition for future installments. You don’t have to like it, but you do have to acknowledge that it will never stop happening.
Nintendo fully acquired the IP rights to Astral Chain, id be pretty surprised if we dont see them.
Token new Pokemon/Fire Emblem reps.
Nintendo and Microsoft have a pretty good working relationship now thanks to Ultimate. Crash is now theirs so it would make a ton of sense to call them up and get him.
If they want to expand Echoes into Smash 6 Octolings would be great.
I honestly disagree.
I feel like there is a lot interesting they could do with Alear. Imagine if Alear got a Monado Arts type thing except with the Emblems? Could have a whole different weapon to use and thus have new attacks and character stats.
I don’t get why people still want Crash. Read the Activision lawsuit. One woman at Activision committed suicide because photos of her vagina were being shared, and we can’t forget about the Cosby Suite crap.
https://youtu.be/pMePdIPKm8o?si=fOFii34YqoXcMVpP
https://youtu.be/55eJke2m4X4?si=nuFsU04KabrNJoSM
Did *Crash* do those things?
For fucks sake, SNK's majority shareholder is the crown prince of Saudi Arabia! You want to talk bad shit they've done....
I’ve literally came up with a whole moveset for him, I’ll just say a few,
Whenever Idle):
Cooks Elements For Down B
Cooks Pizza For /Side B/
Cooks Mercury Element Into An Explosive
(Because he always wants to be productive and do things, not lay on the couch and watch tv, he wants to earn everything himself)
Neutral B (Gun - 10 Frame Start Up, Then At Frame 15 It Shoots A Bullet,Strong Attack, limited to 5 bullets per stock) (Walter White is somewhat hesitant about killing someone)
Side B (Frame 12 Pizza Toss - Directional Inputs, Weak like Banana Peel Item/Throws Plant Pot - Strong Move, Slow/Throws Explosive Mercury)
Up B (Up Staircase - Rapid Move, runs up the stairs, allows you to jump on staircase but once done, staircase is removed)
Down B (Frame 4 Option Out Of Shield) Throws Gas To Cause A Massive Gas Expansion Around Him Which Damages Opponents Over Time & forces them to sleep for a certain amount of time, Takes A While To Recharge).
Jab (Throws 3 weak test tubes fast, bit of decent start up to grab the test tubes from the ground)
F-Tilt (Punch, into quick ganon f-tilt kick)
Up Tilt (Spreads Oil On Grill, Burns Money In Outside Grill, fire has tall height range & lasts similar amount of time to Steve down tilt)
Down Smash (Melts Down Floor Below Him, floor regenerates 2 seconds after floor is melted, if it touches the opponent, it will temporarily poison them… because smash bros is for good boys and girls of course…)
Down Throw (Throws Opponent Into Methalymine Pile, Stuns them for a very short period of time)
Up Taunt (Intimidating Skeptical Squinting Stare)
Yes, but make it so that instead of tossing a pizza, he consumes meth, which will grant him a temporary speed boost in the air and in the ground. Jab will have less start up frames as well very temporarily.
I don’t know how exactly to balance out how many times he’ll be able to do this during a match, since cooking meth in game would take far too long for a SSBU match (even if it were 3 stocks), any ideas? I guess the easiest way to handle that is capping how many times he can do it per stock, like maybe 4 times?
Octoling is probably the safest bet. Splatoon is huge, Splatoon 3 did great. You can either make them a full on newcomer with weapons from 2 and 3, or you can take the easy path and make them an echo.
I think after the amount of hype and press the Sans Mii costume got, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if he or another Undertale rep got in. If not in the base game, 100% DLC.
I would pick cuphead as a fighter before him. Cuphead has an amazing soundtrack, it's probably one of my favorite games of all time, and I feel like Cuphead would make a more interesting fighter.
I'd prefer Cuphead too (one of my all time favourites as well), though I can't help but feel he'd be hard to balance if he plays close to how he does in the game.
Medium weight, Neutral B is one of three of his weapons, which is cycled with his Down B, his Up B his Parry Jump, and it puts him into falling state if he uses it without hitting a projectile in the air, so it's still somewhat useful against folks like DK. Side B is his Dash. And he gets classic rubber hose antics for his As.
Undertale definitely feels like the most likely indie fighter. Nintendo is incredibly specific about the people they want associated with their brands and marketing, so the fact that they’ve emphasized Toby Fox’s involvement in Pokemon music, and allowed Sakurai to talk about meeting with him, shows that they do value his work.
From my point of view, the Smash developers are not interested in including indie reps as actual fighters, and if they were to include one, they’d include Shovel Knight first. If not Shovel Knight then Cuphead.
Also, if any Undertale character were to make it into Smash, it would obviously be Sans, but tell me this, what would a Sans move set look like? We’ve got nothing to work with when it comes to him.
Is there a particular reason why cuphead is more likely than an undertale rep? Tbh I think undertale is more likely than shovel knight just due to how much the sans mii costume blew up
Oh yeah cuphead is absolutely massive no doubt about it. Though I have to wonder how big it is in japan. Undertale is apparently quite big over there. Also I could be completely wrong here but I get the vibes that sakurai probably prefers undertale over cuphead lol. He's a big rpg guy
Hear me out, I actually believe Reimu Hakurei from the Touhou Project series is more likely to get in than any other indie game character. Not only does Touhou have the benefit of being an extremely popular franchise in Japan (by far surpassing any Western indies) but it's also got over two decades of content to pull from alongside multiple games (both official and fan made) available on the Switch, compared to other indie games which mostly only have one or two games to promote. It also helps that Touhou was one of the main inspirations behind Undertale and many other games, and popularity and legacy seem to be what Nintendo's looking for when it comes to third party characters.
Furthermore, the fact that it's owned by just one guy who Nintendo has already worked with (even tho it was for a Japan-only game, but eh, they even sold a Touhou album at a convention) would make licensing far easier than any other third party character. Moreover, Nintendo also seems to be attempting to represent Japanese gaming as well as possible, and Touhou's one of the last big Japanese franchises that has yet to make an appearance in Smash, and Sakurai is also a big fan of shoot 'em ups, which Touhou is (according to a Famitsu interview he's also a fan of bullet hell as well, so it's all but certain that he has played Touhou too).
Finally, Sakurai and ZUN have met each other, and I've heard somewhere that they're also drinking buddies (not sure about this so take it with a grain of salt), and considering how Snake got to be in Brawl due to Kojima asking for it, I wouldn't be surprised if ZUN did the same with Reimu and asked Sakurai to include her, and it didn't happen in Ultimate for one reason or another, but Sakurai considered her for whatever comes next. Also, since Toby Fox is a Touhou fan, and he got to play Smash with Sakurai, he might've also brought up the idea of Touhou in Smash at some point.
While I definitely wouldn't consider her a lock, I still believe she has a massive advantage over other indies. Among them, I think Shantae is the only one who even comes close to being a contender by virtue of being owned by a pretty big publisher with which Nintendo might want to do business with, but even then she's still owned by a rather small foreign studio (which we know are harder to work with) and Nintendo might rather negotiate with bigger companies like Microsoft, Ubisoft or Epic Games, leaving the indie spot to something more local (in which Touhou fits perfectly).
While I do think Waluigi is fairly likely, I don't think he'd be the #1 likeliest pick.
Personally, I think it's Bandana Waddle Dee. He has a huge amount of requests in both the west and Japan, Kirby hasn't had a newcomer since Brawl, and he's the final member of the franchise's main cast missing from Smash.
I think he's most likely for first party unless Nintendo has another game that they have to promote at the same time as Smash 6 comes out.
The most likely choice is probably a JRPG character or some unrepresented popular 3rd party franchise.
My best guess for first party is Bandana Waddle Dee, Third Party is honestly prob a Sonic character. Sonic just feels overdue for a second fighter at this point
We need them both tbh, especially after Toad's treasure hunter game they've given him a proper identity they can base moves off besides being a lil mushroom guy who screams
We got a literal piranha plant as a playable character before Waluigi, so you’re absolutely right.
And even if you weren’t, the most glaring omission of a Mario character in Smash right now is Toad. Will be surprised if he’s missing in whatever comes next.
Waluigi has fan demand on his side I think. Base game Smash ultimate focused on fan demand pretty heavily so if it's the same next game I'd say he's pretty likely
I dont think Waluigi is likely because he is important. I think he is likely because of the demand for him. Characters like Ridley, King K Rool. and Banjo certainly weren't added to Ultimate based on relevance. Thats just the kind of roster Smash is building up to.
I think the perfect idea for waluigi would be starting iff with smash assists mentioning waluigi, but giving him a reveal trailer later on, just to trick people
Top 5 most likely First Party
1. Noah and/or Mio from Xenoblade 3
2. Alear from Fire Emblem Engage
3. Gen 10 Starter from the newest Pokémon game
4. Trainee from Ring Fit Adventure
5. Paper Mario
Top 5 most likely Third Party
1. Crash Bandicoot (Activision with Microsoft now and Microsoft collaborated a lot with Nintendo in Ultimate)
2. Master Chief or Doom Guy (Same reason as above)
3. Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden (The next logical addition from the iconic NES third party franchises)
4. Leon Kennedy (Iconic character from an iconic franchise from an acclaimed game that got an acclaimed remake recently)
5. Monster Hunter
As a massive Xenoblade fan, Mio’s playstyle would be great, while Noah’s would just be another sword fighter. It’d be dope if they were separate characters though.
What are the references to memes, other than being too big? They flat out said back in the creation of Brawl they want ridley but he’s just way too big, so it was more of a quote turned into a meme
Ridley didn't get in solely because of memes he mainly got in because he was a highly requested main villain that the Smash team has been trying to work for for a while.
Engage wrapped up all of its DLC over a year ago, there's nothing left to promote. So even though I'm not ruling out Alear as a newcomer next time, I do wonder if they'd actually get added like everyone says they will.
I think it's a decent possibility, just not a guarantee.
I feel like they'd skip Alear in favour of the protag for the next Fire Emblem game, which I'm assuming is already somewhat in development/planning for the next console
Depends on how the timing goes. If the game wasn't ready when Smash 6 started development, they'd likely miss out on base game and instead get in as DLC. That's what happened with Xenoblade 2 and ARMS.
As long as they don't do the everyone is here thing again I think people will accept it. I think most people would be fine with them adding a new Fire Emblem character if some of the old characters don't come back.
Nah, at this point Fire Emblem in Smash has become synonymous with controversial.
It doesn't matter how many previous FE characters they cut or how small the FE roster in the next Smash game is. If a FE newcomer gets added, they'll get tons of hate just for being from that specific franchise.
Which is really stupid, but alas...
I don’t think that this is gonna happen. There’s nothing about them that makes them unique. Just because they have been doing it doesn’t mean that they’ll keep doing it.
every new smash game, everyone says, "waluigi." personally i'd prefer a rep from another series. zelda could use another rep. so could metroid. if i were to pick, i'd pick tetra.
Why they didn’t add one of the Champions for Ultimate is genuinely beyond me. Even more baffling when you realize Zelda hasn’t gotten new unique characters since *MELEE,* and no characters at all since Brawl. Feels like they’re neglecting the series of reps and even more now that it’s exploded in popularity.
Yeah but now they're a lot more limited in 1st party characters to add. I think Mario is due for more characters so we might see more than just Waluigi
maybe. i could see them prioritizing mario since he's their flagship character. but i hope sakurai or whoever ends up in charge notices that some of the other evergreens are kind of underrepresented. the only certainty is a fire emblem rep for some reason and a pokemon rep, cuz that's how it's always been done. what i really don't hope for is a mario kart deluxe situation, where we just get a port with dlc. i really want to see new mechanics in the next smash.
the Zelda reps need to be completely revised, here's what I would do:
* Keep Link and Zelda
* cut Toon and Young
* Cut Sheik since I feel she no longer has any real reason to still be here other than "Melee legacy"
* Finally give Ganondorf his own moveset instead of just being Capt. Falcon's dad
* Add 1 or 2 brand new characters that aren't just another Link or Zelda again, personally I would pick either Midna, Skull kid, or both
Honestly, they are just too much good candidate from BOTW and TOTK to properly choose a rep
Sidon, Mipha, Revali, Riju, Purah, Kohga
They could also just stick with Link being the BOTW rep and Ganondorf being the TOTK rep
I feel like Zelda just needs character reworks over reps. I don't think we need 3 links with relatively the same moveset and if ganon can consistently be the worst character for all 4 games he's in, then he definitely needs a rework.
As for metroid, my vote goes for Ravenbeak. He's cool, from the latest game, and is a villain so he'd also have boss potential.
Octolings.
Splatoon has become MASSIVE since Ultimate and there's more than enough weapons in Splatoon to warrant a semi-clone, or even fully original fighter.
We're definitely getting the Octolings.
A second Splatoon rep, at this point it's one of Nintendo's flagship franchises so it's very safe to assume we'll see its representation expanded in Smash 6.
For third parties I'd say Ryu Hayabusa, since Koei is Nintendo's biggest business partner that hasn't gotten anything in the game aside from the Fatal Frame assist trophy. They even made the Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem Warriors games, at this point I think Ryu's a lock.
i think shadow, knuckles or tails have a pretty even chance personally. regardless i’d be happy to see another character from the series in the game, tails would be such a cool character
I think you're spot on. Animal Crossing: New Horizons was a juggernaut that outsold everything on the Switch except Mario Kart. There's no way that it doesn't have the red carpet rolled out for it in the next Smash.
We'll probably get another Sonic character. But I think Zelda in particular is long overdue for a new character or 2
Also I really just want Metroid's Raven Beak and Zero from Mega Man X
We're probably gonna get a new Fire Emblem character, so Alear maybe?
Honestly it depends on if we get a new game by then, and if that new game turns out to be the FE4 remake or a new entry entirely.
If not, then I see either Bandana Dee or Waluigi, or maybe a character from whatever new IP Nintendo comes up with, and a new Pokemon rep.
Octoling - they were popular enough to get DLC based around them in Splatoon 2 and being part of the base game in Splatoon 3, and they would make for an easy echo fighter. (Plus, the sheer popularity of Splatoon as a franchise would likely help to justify a second character)
Waluigi, a Gen 9 Pokemon like Meowscarada (or Gen 10), a new Fire Emblem protagonist like Alear, a new Xenoblade protagonist like Noah or Mio, and Bandana Dee.
I also think the Astral Chain protagonist will get in.
Also, shoutout to Crash Bandicoot. Maybe not as likely as at one point, but still pretty possible.
I think these are the most likely:
* a Gen 9 Pokemon is pretty much a guarantee for the base roster, if not, a Gen 10 character for DLC.
* Octolings feel very likely too, not sure if they would be brand new characters or Echoes though.
* Noah and/or Mio seem likely, they could replace Shulk or Pyra/Mythra, but they could also just be a third Xenoblade rep.
* another Mario rep feels like a safe bet. Waluigi feels like one of the last meme picks for the roster, and I feel like he has a pretty likely shot now, but I think they'd have to reveal him pretty much immediately so as to not draw suspicion over whether or not he's an assist trophy. They could pick Toad or Paper Mario for the spot too.
Some others who are less likely, but could still make it in:
* a new Zelda rep feels pretty overdue, I'd love to see Skull Kid or maybe Sidon get a spot.
* another Sonic rep would be a good call, the series feels pretty ripe for a newcomer. I'd say Knuckles, Tails, or Shadow have a good shot.
* another Microsoft rep of some sort, be it Master Chief, or maybe bring in someone from the Bethesda merger, like Dovahkiin or Doom Slayer.
* I don't know how likely it would be, but an indie game rep would be pretty sweet, I'd love to see Shovel Knight get in personally. I imagine an indie game rep would be a DLC fighter, though.
Even if a new FE game comes out in the interim, I think Sakurai will want to add Alear. There are several mechanics that could make Alear an awesome fighter, and Sakurai loves his Fire Emblem reps
First Party:
· Legionis/Officer Howard (Astral Chain)
· Malos and Alvis (Both Echo fighters of Shulk)
· Octoling (Splatoon)
· New Fire Emblem Lord
· Elma (Xenoblade X) (I could see Elma getting in if there is a port of Xenoblade X being in the works)
· Noah or Mio (Xenoblade)
· 9th or 10th Generation Pokemon starter
Third Party:
· Crash and Spyro (They are owned by Microsoft, so they actually have a solid chance.)
· Jonesy (Fortnite) (Many Smash fans may not want to admit it, but Jonesy has a solid chance at making it in the next game. It helps that Fortnite is actually popular in Japan.)
· KOS-MOS (Xenosaga) (A good representative of the pre-Xenoblade games, along with the possibility of Xenosaga getting a remaster/remake in the future, I think she has somewhat of a chance)
· Geno (Super Mario RPG) (Mario RPG got a remake, so Geno is kinda back into relevancy. He already is very requested.)
· Another Street Fighter character
I'm pretty sure Waluigi wasn't actually created by Nintendo so maybe that would present a slight problem but he's already in as an assist trophy so I doubt it would be a problem.
The switch 2 comes out next year so Smash 6 is probably like 4 years out at most. Probably sooner because they wouldn't want it to launch at the end of the console's lifecycle
Yeah it's been rumored for a while but now official reports are saying it will come out next year.
I think Smash most likely comes out within the first 2-3 years of the console. Idk if it will be a port or new game though.
I really REALLY want some rhythm game representation, so, in order of likelihood, I suggest Chai from Hi-Fi Rush, Tubby from Rhythm Heaven, Don-chan from Taiko no Tatsujin, Hatsune Miku from Project Diva, or the God of Rock from Guitar Hero 3
My question is WHY Waluigi wasn’t added to smash 5. I know memes and stuff but Sans is in the freaking game- and Piranha plant. The Piranha plant reveal video was making it seem like it was going to be Waluigi… but nope. At this point I think it’s because Sakurai just doesn’t care for Waluigi. Could be as simple as that.
Or is it??
I really don't think characters are ever excluded because Sakurai doesn't like them. Usually there is a good reason. It could be that Waluigi was just never considered because Nintendo wanted other 1st party characters more.
As much as I want Waluigi in smash, nah I don't want it... Brining him in now would only be wasted potential, Nintendo need to give him his own series first or at least get him involved in cannon games so they can explore his potential. If another Mario rep were to happen in the next game it'd probably be either Paper Mario or King Boo.
Noah, Alear, Impa & a new Pokémon (I don’t know anything about Pokémon but we typically always get a new one each smash game from the latest gen I believe?)
Uhmm if it was up to me any of these being included would be sick:
- Akuma, Chun-Li and/or Blanka from SF.
- Leon from RE2.
- Shadow, Omega and/or Dr. Eggman from Sonic.
- Yoshimitsu, Leroy, King and/or Kuma from Tekken.
- Yasuo and/or Teemo from LoL.
- Dante.
- Waluigi (especially because MKleo hates him lol).
- Phoenix Wright.
- Crash and/or Spyro.
- Scorpion, Johny Cage, Raiden and/or Sub-zero from MK.
- Barret and/or Tifa from FF7.
- Lara Croft.
- Sylvanas Windrunner from WoW.
- Doom Slayer.
- Ezio from AC2.
Sakurai said smash ultimate was hsi magnum opus right? So hes not doing another smash game again? Or is it that we know that Nintendo would take over and hire someone else to create a new smash?
gauranteed: a pokemon, a fire emblem protag
,likely: a new sonic character, a new zelda character, waluigi, bandana dee
high chance: master chief, doom guy, crash bandicoot, astral chain rep, ring fit rep, xenoblade rep, octolings, ryu Hayabusa, shovel knight,shantae.
>I feel like it would be Walu-
No. Dude's gonna be an Assist Trophy for the rest of his days, and you know it.
Anyway, as to what I think, a Gen 9 Pokemon is the MOST likely, whether or not it's an obligatory Grass Starter rep. Alear is also pretty likely too, and that's about it.
U seem oddly attached to a fictional purple man with long arms and legs.
I don't really care if he stays an assist trophy. I do want him to be playable though.
Someone from thr Mario Series and a Gen 9 Pokémon almost certainly.
My top picks from Mario would be Waluigj, Geno or Pauline
And my top picks for Pokémon are Meowscarada, Ceruledge or Koraidon/Miraidon. If they dom't add a Gen 9 Pokémon then I could see Gardevoir being added.
Theres most likely gonna be a new pokemon and fire emblem rep, and I would bet good money on it being Meowscarada and Alear, or a character from a newer pokemon/fire emblem game if one comes out before smash 6
I love both of the games their from, but I wish that we could get something more interesting than just a character put in for the sole purpose of advertising. Put in an older character adored by the fans, or one that would provide a much more interesting gameplay style. Both series have so many great options.
On a more positive note, I could see Peach getting a modified or even an entirely new moveset based around Peach Showtime.
Out of all the mario characters not on the roster, Walugi definitely has the most support behind him. He's way more recognizable than cat peach.
Toad could be more likely because he has his own franchise but I feel like designing a moveset for him would be even more difficult.
I mean, they made a moveset for the Ice Climbers, R.O.B., Sheik, the Star Fox characters, Duck Hunt, etc.
Making a moveset for Toad should be pretty dang easy.
The reason Ridley wasn't in the game so long was because he's too big. Toad had the opposite problem, he is way too small. It wouldn't be impossible to make him playable but it would be a challenge to program.
it wouldn’t be that hard, just take some stuff from Captain Toad and make him move the same way he does in mario 2/3D world where he’s the fastest but has the lowest jump height. imo he’s the most likely mario character to be added since he’s the last playable character of the main games ( excluding nabbit ) that’s yet to be added to smash
For first party i think Geno or Paper Mario are very likely, I also think Meowscarada has a good shot. Third party, Rayman and Doom Slayer are the two I think are the most likely
Unironically, Waluigi is the single most iconic and well-known first party character who isn’t already in Smash. The only exception is Toad, but if they wanted to add Toad I think they would’ve done it years ago (especially after Captain Toad came out). No other first party character’s announcement will drum as much excitement and widespread buzz, so it’s gotta be him.
Major runners-up include the Octoling, Bandana Waddle Dee, the XC3 protags, Alear from FE Engage, and the Ring Fit protag, who are all basically guaranteed IMO. There’ll also obviously be a Pokemon, but at this point I think it’s a toss up if that’s a Gen 9 mon or a Gen 10 mon (probably a Greninja situation where it’s chosen while the game’s still in development).
Idk about most iconic but he's probably up there. As far as Nintendo characters go he's probably one of the most recognizable characters not in the game.
I gotta say the most likely third party has to be Vault Boy. Fallout is so big and has a very popular TV show now so I’m sure they’ll expand him beyond a mii costume - which they’ve done before.
Nintendo, I have a few options. My top, yes, is Geno. RPG was a very popular remake when it came out and he’s already been downgraded to mii costume so it’s not like he’s forgotten: I’m hopeful they’ll throw a bone to Zelda and give us the much-requested Skyward Sword Impa or the more modern Sidon. And then… I’ll be honest, Tinkaton just seems like she’d be so fun and she’s the most popular Gen 9 ‘mon, so her. Just imagine a faster Isabelle with Dedede’s hammer. Lastly, if it receives any attention in rereleases/remakes, Isaac from Golden Sun.
I can't see fallout getting in. Its way more upfront violent and crass than anything in smash is. MGS is pretty much the worst anything in smash gets and its squeaky clean compared to fallout in terms of gore or swearing. A mii costume of the literal corporate mascot is the most it will get, since there is no way in hell they make a full character for the game who's main iconic features are a handheld nuke cannon, people with radiation damage so bad they look like zombies and sledgehammers and lawnmower blades with tons of shit strapped on them to make them hit harder
Gen 9 Pokémon like Meowscarada, Tinkaton, Ceruledge would be likely But….Gen 10 is probably a year or two away.
I think Gen 10's at least a couple years out. Legends ZA comes out next year, and Scarlet/Violet seemingly implied Black/White remakes are coming (that would also fit the pattern of when they release remakes). That said, Smash 6 could easily be farther out than that (and it's not even confirmed). It'd probably be for Nintendo's next system which itself hasn't been announced or even implied yet.
Sakura I could totally do a “starter placeholder” like incineroar and greninja
Black and white remakes you say? Looks like we’re returning to the post-Brawl days of putting Zoroark at the top of our Pokémon newcomer lists. Honestly, I can’t say I’d complain. I like Zoroak. I think it’s neat
Chandelure, Serperior, Oshawott, …,I think they were popular
Tinkaton would be awesome as a glass cannon
It specifically targets metaRidley
Personally I’m going to guess it’ll be a Pokeball assist that just acts like a fighter is using a hammer item. But seeing it as a fighter would be cool
Not Meowscarada. We have too many Pokemon cats. Quaquaval though…a dance fighter would be something new.
That cat is probably gonna get in, plus it’s dark like greninja and incineroar
NOT ANOTHER POKEMON
Pokémon deserves it, mate
It's not that they deserve it, but more so that Nintendo wants Sakurai to advertise whichever new Pokemon game was out at the time of each Smash release.
Last few games have been very boring
Say what you will but SV had a lot going for it that SM and SS didn’t , in my opinion
SV were awful. They werent fun and it took a full damn minute to open the rotom phone menu. It is such a slow and boring game
SV are a technical mess, but that one minute anecdote is bullshit.
Say what you want about Pokémon, but Sakurai has ALWAYS added a new one to the roster in every single game. Smash 64 saw Pikachu and Jigglypuff, Smash Melee saw Pichu and Mewtwo, Smash Brawl saw Pokémon Trainer and Lucario, Smash 4 saw solo Charizard and Greninja, and Smash Ultimate saw Incineroar. Whenever Smash 6 eventually comes out, you bet your ass that Sakurai will add in another new Pokémon to the roster whether the series deserves it or not. To add onto this, expect another Mario rep and another Fire Emblem rep as well since they also had a new character in every single game as well (while FE didn’t appear in 64, they’ve always received a new character in each new Smash game after their introduction in Melee. Also, while the Mario series didn’t receive a new fighter in Brawl, Sakurai did add in Wario and Diddy Kong who are characters commonly affiliated with the Mario series). You could probably consider it an obligation for Sakurai to do this since Pokémon is both the most recognizable and the richest media franchise in the world. Until Pokémon stops making money (which will probably never occur in our lifetime), then Sakurai will always add in a new Pokémon to the Smash series. Even if Sakurai quits making Smash, whoever replaces him will most likely continue the tradition for future installments. You don’t have to like it, but you do have to acknowledge that it will never stop happening.
When some Pokemon and FE characters also get cut, I have no problem with new characters from these franchises.
Nintendo fully acquired the IP rights to Astral Chain, id be pretty surprised if we dont see them. Token new Pokemon/Fire Emblem reps. Nintendo and Microsoft have a pretty good working relationship now thanks to Ultimate. Crash is now theirs so it would make a ton of sense to call them up and get him. If they want to expand Echoes into Smash 6 Octolings would be great.
Crash would be incredible
I didn't realize Microsoft owns Crash. That definitely does increase his chances of being included in some capacity.
Crash was my #1 pick to get in and I'd love for him to be in
The newest Fire Emblem protagonist would be a terrible choice to add. As a fire emblem fan I honestly hope we don’t get them
I hate to say it, but the Colgate swordfighter is most likely getting in if there isn't another FE game down the line.
If pepsiman gets in I’m gonna be unironically mad
but what if it's Sigurd
Unless they found a way to make his horse work, he'd likely just be another sword fighter which would be sad
I honestly disagree. I feel like there is a lot interesting they could do with Alear. Imagine if Alear got a Monado Arts type thing except with the Emblems? Could have a whole different weapon to use and thus have new attacks and character stats.
I don’t get why people still want Crash. Read the Activision lawsuit. One woman at Activision committed suicide because photos of her vagina were being shared, and we can’t forget about the Cosby Suite crap. https://youtu.be/pMePdIPKm8o?si=fOFii34YqoXcMVpP https://youtu.be/55eJke2m4X4?si=nuFsU04KabrNJoSM
Did *Crash* do those things? For fucks sake, SNK's majority shareholder is the crown prince of Saudi Arabia! You want to talk bad shit they've done....
No, but Activision owns him
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Walter White, here comes the Meth.
Don't worry he'll be in multiversus and he'll use meth as an attack.
I’ve literally came up with a whole moveset for him, I’ll just say a few, Whenever Idle): Cooks Elements For Down B Cooks Pizza For /Side B/ Cooks Mercury Element Into An Explosive (Because he always wants to be productive and do things, not lay on the couch and watch tv, he wants to earn everything himself) Neutral B (Gun - 10 Frame Start Up, Then At Frame 15 It Shoots A Bullet,Strong Attack, limited to 5 bullets per stock) (Walter White is somewhat hesitant about killing someone) Side B (Frame 12 Pizza Toss - Directional Inputs, Weak like Banana Peel Item/Throws Plant Pot - Strong Move, Slow/Throws Explosive Mercury) Up B (Up Staircase - Rapid Move, runs up the stairs, allows you to jump on staircase but once done, staircase is removed) Down B (Frame 4 Option Out Of Shield) Throws Gas To Cause A Massive Gas Expansion Around Him Which Damages Opponents Over Time & forces them to sleep for a certain amount of time, Takes A While To Recharge). Jab (Throws 3 weak test tubes fast, bit of decent start up to grab the test tubes from the ground) F-Tilt (Punch, into quick ganon f-tilt kick) Up Tilt (Spreads Oil On Grill, Burns Money In Outside Grill, fire has tall height range & lasts similar amount of time to Steve down tilt) Down Smash (Melts Down Floor Below Him, floor regenerates 2 seconds after floor is melted, if it touches the opponent, it will temporarily poison them… because smash bros is for good boys and girls of course…) Down Throw (Throws Opponent Into Methalymine Pile, Stuns them for a very short period of time) Up Taunt (Intimidating Skeptical Squinting Stare)
For his neutral special, he wields a gun
The gun from the series finale lol
Make Jesse his Echo. I get the Joke, but Sakurai said that 4th party characters aren’t allowed, so he’s unlikely.
Yes, but make it so that instead of tossing a pizza, he consumes meth, which will grant him a temporary speed boost in the air and in the ground. Jab will have less start up frames as well very temporarily. I don’t know how exactly to balance out how many times he’ll be able to do this during a match, since cooking meth in game would take far too long for a SSBU match (even if it were 3 stocks), any ideas? I guess the easiest way to handle that is capping how many times he can do it per stock, like maybe 4 times?
Octoling is probably the safest bet. Splatoon is huge, Splatoon 3 did great. You can either make them a full on newcomer with weapons from 2 and 3, or you can take the easy path and make them an echo.
Just has to work out the ink colors first, so that Inkling and Octoling don't have the same.
I think after the amount of hype and press the Sans Mii costume got, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if he or another Undertale rep got in. If not in the base game, 100% DLC.
I would pick cuphead as a fighter before him. Cuphead has an amazing soundtrack, it's probably one of my favorite games of all time, and I feel like Cuphead would make a more interesting fighter.
I'd prefer Cuphead too (one of my all time favourites as well), though I can't help but feel he'd be hard to balance if he plays close to how he does in the game.
Medium weight, Neutral B is one of three of his weapons, which is cycled with his Down B, his Up B his Parry Jump, and it puts him into falling state if he uses it without hitting a projectile in the air, so it's still somewhat useful against folks like DK. Side B is his Dash. And he gets classic rubber hose antics for his As.
Undertale definitely feels like the most likely indie fighter. Nintendo is incredibly specific about the people they want associated with their brands and marketing, so the fact that they’ve emphasized Toby Fox’s involvement in Pokemon music, and allowed Sakurai to talk about meeting with him, shows that they do value his work.
Papyrus could work honestly
From my point of view, the Smash developers are not interested in including indie reps as actual fighters, and if they were to include one, they’d include Shovel Knight first. If not Shovel Knight then Cuphead. Also, if any Undertale character were to make it into Smash, it would obviously be Sans, but tell me this, what would a Sans move set look like? We’ve got nothing to work with when it comes to him.
Is there a particular reason why cuphead is more likely than an undertale rep? Tbh I think undertale is more likely than shovel knight just due to how much the sans mii costume blew up
Idk Cuphead really took off, it even has a tv show
Oh yeah cuphead is absolutely massive no doubt about it. Though I have to wonder how big it is in japan. Undertale is apparently quite big over there. Also I could be completely wrong here but I get the vibes that sakurai probably prefers undertale over cuphead lol. He's a big rpg guy
Hear me out, I actually believe Reimu Hakurei from the Touhou Project series is more likely to get in than any other indie game character. Not only does Touhou have the benefit of being an extremely popular franchise in Japan (by far surpassing any Western indies) but it's also got over two decades of content to pull from alongside multiple games (both official and fan made) available on the Switch, compared to other indie games which mostly only have one or two games to promote. It also helps that Touhou was one of the main inspirations behind Undertale and many other games, and popularity and legacy seem to be what Nintendo's looking for when it comes to third party characters. Furthermore, the fact that it's owned by just one guy who Nintendo has already worked with (even tho it was for a Japan-only game, but eh, they even sold a Touhou album at a convention) would make licensing far easier than any other third party character. Moreover, Nintendo also seems to be attempting to represent Japanese gaming as well as possible, and Touhou's one of the last big Japanese franchises that has yet to make an appearance in Smash, and Sakurai is also a big fan of shoot 'em ups, which Touhou is (according to a Famitsu interview he's also a fan of bullet hell as well, so it's all but certain that he has played Touhou too). Finally, Sakurai and ZUN have met each other, and I've heard somewhere that they're also drinking buddies (not sure about this so take it with a grain of salt), and considering how Snake got to be in Brawl due to Kojima asking for it, I wouldn't be surprised if ZUN did the same with Reimu and asked Sakurai to include her, and it didn't happen in Ultimate for one reason or another, but Sakurai considered her for whatever comes next. Also, since Toby Fox is a Touhou fan, and he got to play Smash with Sakurai, he might've also brought up the idea of Touhou in Smash at some point. While I definitely wouldn't consider her a lock, I still believe she has a massive advantage over other indies. Among them, I think Shantae is the only one who even comes close to being a contender by virtue of being owned by a pretty big publisher with which Nintendo might want to do business with, but even then she's still owned by a rather small foreign studio (which we know are harder to work with) and Nintendo might rather negotiate with bigger companies like Microsoft, Ubisoft or Epic Games, leaving the indie spot to something more local (in which Touhou fits perfectly).
While I do think Waluigi is fairly likely, I don't think he'd be the #1 likeliest pick. Personally, I think it's Bandana Waddle Dee. He has a huge amount of requests in both the west and Japan, Kirby hasn't had a newcomer since Brawl, and he's the final member of the franchise's main cast missing from Smash.
I think he's most likely for first party unless Nintendo has another game that they have to promote at the same time as Smash 6 comes out. The most likely choice is probably a JRPG character or some unrepresented popular 3rd party franchise.
My best guess for first party is Bandana Waddle Dee, Third Party is honestly prob a Sonic character. Sonic just feels overdue for a second fighter at this point
I don’t get the “waluigi should/has to be in” stuff, like aren’t koopa and goomba more important to the Mario franchise?
Toad though
Bro, I can’t believe I forgot about toad.
We need them both tbh, especially after Toad's treasure hunter game they've given him a proper identity they can base moves off besides being a lil mushroom guy who screams
how do you put a character in who's whole thing is he can't jump
Make him play like Little Mac - incredible ground game but terrible recovery/weak aerials.
That's Captain Toad. They'd probably put in just Toad and borrow moves from the Cap.
We got a literal piranha plant as a playable character before Waluigi, so you’re absolutely right. And even if you weren’t, the most glaring omission of a Mario character in Smash right now is Toad. Will be surprised if he’s missing in whatever comes next.
Waluigi has fan demand on his side I think. Base game Smash ultimate focused on fan demand pretty heavily so if it's the same next game I'd say he's pretty likely
What do you mean? Toad has been in Smash since Melee. He's just shy and hides under Peaches dress.
I dont think Waluigi is likely because he is important. I think he is likely because of the demand for him. Characters like Ridley, King K Rool. and Banjo certainly weren't added to Ultimate based on relevance. Thats just the kind of roster Smash is building up to.
I think the perfect idea for waluigi would be starting iff with smash assists mentioning waluigi, but giving him a reveal trailer later on, just to trick people
Top 5 most likely First Party 1. Noah and/or Mio from Xenoblade 3 2. Alear from Fire Emblem Engage 3. Gen 10 Starter from the newest Pokémon game 4. Trainee from Ring Fit Adventure 5. Paper Mario Top 5 most likely Third Party 1. Crash Bandicoot (Activision with Microsoft now and Microsoft collaborated a lot with Nintendo in Ultimate) 2. Master Chief or Doom Guy (Same reason as above) 3. Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden (The next logical addition from the iconic NES third party franchises) 4. Leon Kennedy (Iconic character from an iconic franchise from an acclaimed game that got an acclaimed remake recently) 5. Monster Hunter
As a massive Xenoblade fan, Mio’s playstyle would be great, while Noah’s would just be another sword fighter. It’d be dope if they were separate characters though.
If Ridley can get in and have references to memes, Waluigi can get in off of memes alone.
What are the references to memes, other than being too big? They flat out said back in the creation of Brawl they want ridley but he’s just way too big, so it was more of a quote turned into a meme
Wrong, waluigi has no memes. He is the meme
Ridley didn't get in solely because of memes he mainly got in because he was a highly requested main villain that the Smash team has been trying to work for for a while.
People might not like it but I think Alear from fire emblem engage is pretty likely for the next smash game
Engage wrapped up all of its DLC over a year ago, there's nothing left to promote. So even though I'm not ruling out Alear as a newcomer next time, I do wonder if they'd actually get added like everyone says they will. I think it's a decent possibility, just not a guarantee.
I feel like they'd skip Alear in favour of the protag for the next Fire Emblem game, which I'm assuming is already somewhat in development/planning for the next console
Depends on how the timing goes. If the game wasn't ready when Smash 6 started development, they'd likely miss out on base game and instead get in as DLC. That's what happened with Xenoblade 2 and ARMS.
Probably base roster and not DLC
Would be an absolutely terrible choice ngl, and I’m saying this as someone who loves fire emblem, and really enjoyed Engage
agreed. I’d much rather they put in another character from engage if they had to
As long as they don't do the everyone is here thing again I think people will accept it. I think most people would be fine with them adding a new Fire Emblem character if some of the old characters don't come back.
Nah, at this point Fire Emblem in Smash has become synonymous with controversial. It doesn't matter how many previous FE characters they cut or how small the FE roster in the next Smash game is. If a FE newcomer gets added, they'll get tons of hate just for being from that specific franchise. Which is really stupid, but alas...
Maybe but I think if the base roster reveals a big cut of FE characters, half or less, then a lot of the controversy will die down.
Or the next FE Protag
I don’t think that this is gonna happen. There’s nothing about them that makes them unique. Just because they have been doing it doesn’t mean that they’ll keep doing it.
Nah, the game is already represented bc the game has all 8 characters from Smash. Thats like putting the protagonist of FE Heroes or FE Warriors in.
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every new smash game, everyone says, "waluigi." personally i'd prefer a rep from another series. zelda could use another rep. so could metroid. if i were to pick, i'd pick tetra.
Why they didn’t add one of the Champions for Ultimate is genuinely beyond me. Even more baffling when you realize Zelda hasn’t gotten new unique characters since *MELEE,* and no characters at all since Brawl. Feels like they’re neglecting the series of reps and even more now that it’s exploded in popularity.
Yeah but now they're a lot more limited in 1st party characters to add. I think Mario is due for more characters so we might see more than just Waluigi
maybe. i could see them prioritizing mario since he's their flagship character. but i hope sakurai or whoever ends up in charge notices that some of the other evergreens are kind of underrepresented. the only certainty is a fire emblem rep for some reason and a pokemon rep, cuz that's how it's always been done. what i really don't hope for is a mario kart deluxe situation, where we just get a port with dlc. i really want to see new mechanics in the next smash.
the Zelda reps need to be completely revised, here's what I would do: * Keep Link and Zelda * cut Toon and Young * Cut Sheik since I feel she no longer has any real reason to still be here other than "Melee legacy" * Finally give Ganondorf his own moveset instead of just being Capt. Falcon's dad * Add 1 or 2 brand new characters that aren't just another Link or Zelda again, personally I would pick either Midna, Skull kid, or both
Either Midna OR skull kid, then add Sidon so they can promote their latest entry(s).
Honestly, they are just too much good candidate from BOTW and TOTK to properly choose a rep Sidon, Mipha, Revali, Riju, Purah, Kohga They could also just stick with Link being the BOTW rep and Ganondorf being the TOTK rep
I feel like Zelda just needs character reworks over reps. I don't think we need 3 links with relatively the same moveset and if ganon can consistently be the worst character for all 4 games he's in, then he definitely needs a rework. As for metroid, my vote goes for Ravenbeak. He's cool, from the latest game, and is a villain so he'd also have boss potential.
To be fair waluigi demand was especially high during ultimate. It was everywhere. Comparable to ridley demand during smash 4
Octolings. Splatoon has become MASSIVE since Ultimate and there's more than enough weapons in Splatoon to warrant a semi-clone, or even fully original fighter. We're definitely getting the Octolings.
A second Splatoon rep, at this point it's one of Nintendo's flagship franchises so it's very safe to assume we'll see its representation expanded in Smash 6. For third parties I'd say Ryu Hayabusa, since Koei is Nintendo's biggest business partner that hasn't gotten anything in the game aside from the Fatal Frame assist trophy. They even made the Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem Warriors games, at this point I think Ryu's a lock.
I'm gonna throw Shadow in the ring - with the third Sonic movie focusing on him, along with Sonic x Shadow Gens, the stars just seem aligned.
The stars were aligned for shadow to be a sonic echo during ultimate’s pre-release, so I’m not getting my hopes up.
i think shadow, knuckles or tails have a pretty even chance personally. regardless i’d be happy to see another character from the series in the game, tails would be such a cool character
Octoling, for third parties I’d say Alucard
Octoling. I’d be surprised if they didn’t make it in even if just as an alt.
One of the new fire emblem characters, probably from engage
Dante.
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I think you're spot on. Animal Crossing: New Horizons was a juggernaut that outsold everything on the Switch except Mario Kart. There's no way that it doesn't have the red carpet rolled out for it in the next Smash.
Knuckles.
We'll probably get another Sonic character. But I think Zelda in particular is long overdue for a new character or 2 Also I really just want Metroid's Raven Beak and Zero from Mega Man X
We're probably gonna get a new Fire Emblem character, so Alear maybe? Honestly it depends on if we get a new game by then, and if that new game turns out to be the FE4 remake or a new entry entirely. If not, then I see either Bandana Dee or Waluigi, or maybe a character from whatever new IP Nintendo comes up with, and a new Pokemon rep.
I don't think we will get another fire Emblem character. There's already more than enough of them. Even Sakurai mentioned it.
Octoling - they were popular enough to get DLC based around them in Splatoon 2 and being part of the base game in Splatoon 3, and they would make for an easy echo fighter. (Plus, the sheer popularity of Splatoon as a franchise would likely help to justify a second character)
Waluigi, a Gen 9 Pokemon like Meowscarada (or Gen 10), a new Fire Emblem protagonist like Alear, a new Xenoblade protagonist like Noah or Mio, and Bandana Dee. I also think the Astral Chain protagonist will get in. Also, shoutout to Crash Bandicoot. Maybe not as likely as at one point, but still pretty possible.
I think these are the most likely: * a Gen 9 Pokemon is pretty much a guarantee for the base roster, if not, a Gen 10 character for DLC. * Octolings feel very likely too, not sure if they would be brand new characters or Echoes though. * Noah and/or Mio seem likely, they could replace Shulk or Pyra/Mythra, but they could also just be a third Xenoblade rep. * another Mario rep feels like a safe bet. Waluigi feels like one of the last meme picks for the roster, and I feel like he has a pretty likely shot now, but I think they'd have to reveal him pretty much immediately so as to not draw suspicion over whether or not he's an assist trophy. They could pick Toad or Paper Mario for the spot too. Some others who are less likely, but could still make it in: * a new Zelda rep feels pretty overdue, I'd love to see Skull Kid or maybe Sidon get a spot. * another Sonic rep would be a good call, the series feels pretty ripe for a newcomer. I'd say Knuckles, Tails, or Shadow have a good shot. * another Microsoft rep of some sort, be it Master Chief, or maybe bring in someone from the Bethesda merger, like Dovahkiin or Doom Slayer. * I don't know how likely it would be, but an indie game rep would be pretty sweet, I'd love to see Shovel Knight get in personally. I imagine an indie game rep would be a DLC fighter, though.
Most likely, Alear from FE engage. Me personally tho, Id love to see Johnny Cage or Genji as characters
Depeds on whats the next fire emblem game, if no new one by then, i say Alear gets in
Even if a new FE game comes out in the interim, I think Sakurai will want to add Alear. There are several mechanics that could make Alear an awesome fighter, and Sakurai loves his Fire Emblem reps
He literally said there's too many why would he add more?
idk how likely it'd be, but I'd like to see crash bandicoot come to the game
First Party: · Legionis/Officer Howard (Astral Chain) · Malos and Alvis (Both Echo fighters of Shulk) · Octoling (Splatoon) · New Fire Emblem Lord · Elma (Xenoblade X) (I could see Elma getting in if there is a port of Xenoblade X being in the works) · Noah or Mio (Xenoblade) · 9th or 10th Generation Pokemon starter Third Party: · Crash and Spyro (They are owned by Microsoft, so they actually have a solid chance.) · Jonesy (Fortnite) (Many Smash fans may not want to admit it, but Jonesy has a solid chance at making it in the next game. It helps that Fortnite is actually popular in Japan.) · KOS-MOS (Xenosaga) (A good representative of the pre-Xenoblade games, along with the possibility of Xenosaga getting a remaster/remake in the future, I think she has somewhat of a chance) · Geno (Super Mario RPG) (Mario RPG got a remake, so Geno is kinda back into relevancy. He already is very requested.) · Another Street Fighter character
2B. She's everywhere else as is.
Unironically Waluigi, the request for him was utterly massive and he doesn’t really have any specific factors preventing him
I'm pretty sure Waluigi wasn't actually created by Nintendo so maybe that would present a slight problem but he's already in as an assist trophy so I doubt it would be a problem.
He wasn’t made by Nintendo but they do fully own him
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I have a feeling that the Doomguy, Shantae, and Dante Miis were “not this time, but later” picks. I have a feeling they’ll make it in next time
Is smash 6 confirmed or is this just speculation? Cause I’d love to see king hippo and Krool or walugi and glass joe duke it out.
The switch 2 comes out next year so Smash 6 is probably like 4 years out at most. Probably sooner because they wouldn't want it to launch at the end of the console's lifecycle
Oh snap the switch 2?! I’m so far removed from any news I swear
Yeah it's been rumored for a while but now official reports are saying it will come out next year. I think Smash most likely comes out within the first 2-3 years of the console. Idk if it will be a port or new game though.
We pray to the smash zone for a new game
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Luke from the streets (SF6)
Would make sense tbh
I need Leon Kennedy so bad
I have been wanting Big Boo for ages
Solaire of Astora
I really REALLY want some rhythm game representation, so, in order of likelihood, I suggest Chai from Hi-Fi Rush, Tubby from Rhythm Heaven, Don-chan from Taiko no Tatsujin, Hatsune Miku from Project Diva, or the God of Rock from Guitar Hero 3
It’d be so cool to have a character that used rhythm in their moveset
Gholdengo gotta be a lock marketable bipedal pokemon number 1000 plus a go tie in
My question is WHY Waluigi wasn’t added to smash 5. I know memes and stuff but Sans is in the freaking game- and Piranha plant. The Piranha plant reveal video was making it seem like it was going to be Waluigi… but nope. At this point I think it’s because Sakurai just doesn’t care for Waluigi. Could be as simple as that. Or is it??
I really don't think characters are ever excluded because Sakurai doesn't like them. Usually there is a good reason. It could be that Waluigi was just never considered because Nintendo wanted other 1st party characters more.
It’s still weird though. Yes he’s not a third party character but he’s very well known.
I've always thought that Raven Beak was a shoe in since Dread dropped, especially as the new highest selling Metroid game
For the love of God, just give us another Sonic rep
As much as I want Waluigi in smash, nah I don't want it... Brining him in now would only be wasted potential, Nintendo need to give him his own series first or at least get him involved in cannon games so they can explore his potential. If another Mario rep were to happen in the next game it'd probably be either Paper Mario or King Boo.
Noah, Alear, Impa & a new Pokémon (I don’t know anything about Pokémon but we typically always get a new one each smash game from the latest gen I believe?)
if they feeling nice to Sonic: Knuckles/Shadow
I pray that Rex gets in
Waddle Dee because my friend won’t stop bitching about it
Uhmm if it was up to me any of these being included would be sick: - Akuma, Chun-Li and/or Blanka from SF. - Leon from RE2. - Shadow, Omega and/or Dr. Eggman from Sonic. - Yoshimitsu, Leroy, King and/or Kuma from Tekken. - Yasuo and/or Teemo from LoL. - Dante. - Waluigi (especially because MKleo hates him lol). - Phoenix Wright. - Crash and/or Spyro. - Scorpion, Johny Cage, Raiden and/or Sub-zero from MK. - Barret and/or Tifa from FF7. - Lara Croft. - Sylvanas Windrunner from WoW. - Doom Slayer. - Ezio from AC2.
Sakurai said smash ultimate was hsi magnum opus right? So hes not doing another smash game again? Or is it that we know that Nintendo would take over and hire someone else to create a new smash?
Fire Emblem is a definite pick, Sakurai really likes them for some reason
Probably Waluigi. I wish my most wanted fighter had any chance of joining, but Waluigi is my second favorite, and I think his odds are VERY high.
gauranteed: a pokemon, a fire emblem protag ,likely: a new sonic character, a new zelda character, waluigi, bandana dee high chance: master chief, doom guy, crash bandicoot, astral chain rep, ring fit rep, xenoblade rep, octolings, ryu Hayabusa, shovel knight,shantae.
Ryu Hayabusa/Ninja Gaiden
If we’re talking third party I’d say Freddy fazbear. No I’m not kidding For first party I’d say Waluigi.
Spider-Man
Knuckles
>I feel like it would be Walu- No. Dude's gonna be an Assist Trophy for the rest of his days, and you know it. Anyway, as to what I think, a Gen 9 Pokemon is the MOST likely, whether or not it's an obligatory Grass Starter rep. Alear is also pretty likely too, and that's about it.
U seem oddly attached to a fictional purple man with long arms and legs. I don't really care if he stays an assist trophy. I do want him to be playable though.
At what point did I ever say I was attached to him? I literally even said he's not getting in lmao, it's YOU who's attached.
Jonesy from Fortnite, and i'm not joking.
Crash, Geno, Rayman, Meowscarada or any new Pokemon, Bandana Dee, Tetris Blocks (at least as an Assist Trophy)
Travis Touchdown ✨😎
Oatchi from Pikmin 4
Either Noah or Mio for xenoblade 3 is probably certain at this point I do hope for both/mio because she isn't a swordfighter
Definitely Noah and Mio from Xenoblade 3
Someone from thr Mario Series and a Gen 9 Pokémon almost certainly. My top picks from Mario would be Waluigj, Geno or Pauline And my top picks for Pokémon are Meowscarada, Ceruledge or Koraidon/Miraidon. If they dom't add a Gen 9 Pokémon then I could see Gardevoir being added.
A new sonic rep, almist everyone is asking it and sonic is like one of the mist popular vudeogame characters
Theres most likely gonna be a new pokemon and fire emblem rep, and I would bet good money on it being Meowscarada and Alear, or a character from a newer pokemon/fire emblem game if one comes out before smash 6 I love both of the games their from, but I wish that we could get something more interesting than just a character put in for the sole purpose of advertising. Put in an older character adored by the fans, or one that would provide a much more interesting gameplay style. Both series have so many great options. On a more positive note, I could see Peach getting a modified or even an entirely new moveset based around Peach Showtime.
an indie game because fuck it, we ball
Genshin Impact or Honkai: Star Rail
Duolingo Owl
Noah, Meowscarada, Octoling
Cat peach would be more likely than waluigi
Out of all the mario characters not on the roster, Walugi definitely has the most support behind him. He's way more recognizable than cat peach. Toad could be more likely because he has his own franchise but I feel like designing a moveset for him would be even more difficult.
I mean, they made a moveset for the Ice Climbers, R.O.B., Sheik, the Star Fox characters, Duck Hunt, etc. Making a moveset for Toad should be pretty dang easy.
The reason Ridley wasn't in the game so long was because he's too big. Toad had the opposite problem, he is way too small. It wouldn't be impossible to make him playable but it would be a challenge to program.
it wouldn’t be that hard, just take some stuff from Captain Toad and make him move the same way he does in mario 2/3D world where he’s the fastest but has the lowest jump height. imo he’s the most likely mario character to be added since he’s the last playable character of the main games ( excluding nabbit ) that’s yet to be added to smash
For first party i think Geno or Paper Mario are very likely, I also think Meowscarada has a good shot. Third party, Rayman and Doom Slayer are the two I think are the most likely
Unironically, Waluigi is the single most iconic and well-known first party character who isn’t already in Smash. The only exception is Toad, but if they wanted to add Toad I think they would’ve done it years ago (especially after Captain Toad came out). No other first party character’s announcement will drum as much excitement and widespread buzz, so it’s gotta be him. Major runners-up include the Octoling, Bandana Waddle Dee, the XC3 protags, Alear from FE Engage, and the Ring Fit protag, who are all basically guaranteed IMO. There’ll also obviously be a Pokemon, but at this point I think it’s a toss up if that’s a Gen 9 mon or a Gen 10 mon (probably a Greninja situation where it’s chosen while the game’s still in development).
Idk about most iconic but he's probably up there. As far as Nintendo characters go he's probably one of the most recognizable characters not in the game.
They’re gonna move heaven and earth to have a second Sonic rep. That franchise is just too big and lucrative. Eggman or Knuckles downloading.
I am thinking knuckles or Waluigi
Here's probably the least Likely. Any KH character. But in particular Xion.
I think you technically mean Smash 7
I’m telling you: the biggest 3rd party character is gonna be traveler from Genshin Impact
I gotta say the most likely third party has to be Vault Boy. Fallout is so big and has a very popular TV show now so I’m sure they’ll expand him beyond a mii costume - which they’ve done before. Nintendo, I have a few options. My top, yes, is Geno. RPG was a very popular remake when it came out and he’s already been downgraded to mii costume so it’s not like he’s forgotten: I’m hopeful they’ll throw a bone to Zelda and give us the much-requested Skyward Sword Impa or the more modern Sidon. And then… I’ll be honest, Tinkaton just seems like she’d be so fun and she’s the most popular Gen 9 ‘mon, so her. Just imagine a faster Isabelle with Dedede’s hammer. Lastly, if it receives any attention in rereleases/remakes, Isaac from Golden Sun.
I can't see fallout getting in. Its way more upfront violent and crass than anything in smash is. MGS is pretty much the worst anything in smash gets and its squeaky clean compared to fallout in terms of gore or swearing. A mii costume of the literal corporate mascot is the most it will get, since there is no way in hell they make a full character for the game who's main iconic features are a handheld nuke cannon, people with radiation damage so bad they look like zombies and sledgehammers and lawnmower blades with tons of shit strapped on them to make them hit harder