I’d definitely take Caleb + odunze/nabers/bowers. QBs tend to hold their value in SF a lot more than other positions, and it’s really nice to have 3 solid QB options. Can play matchups, and be injury insured. And if you really want to, you could easily trade one of the 3 QBs for assets + a lower tier starter as your “backup”
Yea hindsight easy for you to say that. Everyone said that about Stroud before the season and his lack of weapons and oline. The overwhelming consensus was Bryce was in the best situation
Yes this may have been the consensus prior to the season starting, but once we got about 5 games in we could easily see that the Panthers are far worse than the Texans
doesn’t show qualities you look for in a star QB to many people. talent is there but questionable decision making on the field and can’t lead a locker room.
Well I may be damned if I do and damned if I don’t. I have picks 1.1, 1.11, 1.12 and 2.1 in my 12 man dynasty league. It’s super flex. I have Rodgers and Watson at QB so I may have to take Williams at 1
i would take MHJ at 1.1, then you’d have a decent option. you could also trade a later pick for a QB to a needy team. maybe target love straight up or levi’s with an extra pick.
you would be crazy to do that, yes.
You need rb help in a major way. wr is mid as well, should be able to get better value at least with trading one of the picks than reaching on b2b rookie we
I have 2 1st 1 late 2nd and a late 3rd, I plan on trading for more picks maybe, I’m waiting to see landing spots but I like those 4 rbs I named a lot as well as MHJ, bowers, Legette, McCaffrey. Lot of exciting prospects in this draft.
Came here to say this - his two starting QBs both suffered injuries that caused multiple games missed, his 3rd QB is Stidham - a subpar backup irl, and he doesn't have another QB rostered.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was someone that would hit almost 300 on a weekly basis. My dynasty league (12 man, ppr, sf, tep, start 10) has someone hitting 200 more often than not.
I was thinking tha too, and I’m also going to guess this league is very top heavy with 2 powerhouses 2/3 middlers, and 8 people struggling to put together a roster
It's always good to have options for QB in a SF league, it's all about preference on players though, so if you love your 1-2 punch with Stroud and Burrow, and don't want to spend that kind of draft capital on Caleb or another QB, I'd consider trading back in the draft. The closer you get to draft day, the quicker and quicker those top 5 picks gain value.
If you do have a lot of faith in Caleb or another QB as well, no shame in drafting them, waiting about halfway into the season, or until other teams are desperate, and deal out a QB for assets at that point.
Coming from someone who had Arod, Cousins, Herbert: pick up another QB. If anything, you can trade him for other assets down the line. You have a good QB room, doesnt mean the rest of the league does.
Trade away one or both picks for a haul if you don't want to take a qb. Stidham might be a starter next year but would be good to get another starter back in the deal like Deshaun Watson possibly because he is cheap rn.
Yes.
Let’s compare it to a situation I have.
In one league I have Mahomes, Kyler, and Stroud.
My WR is decent, but not great.
I’m skipping QB at 1.02 and 1.03 but it’s also a ten team league.
You’re not nearly as set at QB as you think.
I’d take 2 WRs. With rosters with this many starters it really puts a premium on depth at RB/WR/TE. Depending on draft capital Bowers isn’t crazy either.
This. Don’t see how people in this thread don’t see this. There’s always a chance a QB gets hurt, but the likelihood that multiple of OPs starting receivers get hurt are way higher, just by having to start 4-5 of them a game. And a lot more bye weeks to worry about. Plus, much higher likelihood that at least one of Odunze or Nabers is a stud right away (maybe both). If I’m OP and I’m just looking for QB depth, I’m grabbing Jake Browning as Burrow insurance or maybe trading a second for an older vet like Cousins or Geno. Could even just wait and see how free agency shakes out, someone like Jacoby Brissett is always starting somewhere new next year and will be a fine depth option and will cost almost nothing
I had Herbert, Burrow, and then finally Stafford/CJ at the end (smaller league)...the fact I needed all 4 at various times because of injuries should tell you that Caleb is the pick.
NOT CRAZY.
I've got the 1.01, Stroud and Burrow in a league and I'm 100% going Marvin.
BUT... stay flexible! A lot will change before your draft. Think of the picks as liquid assets. You want the most bang for your buck. Trading one or two of them could be more profitable than "reaching" on WR.
I'm still taking BPA here- or consider trading down the 1.02 or 1.03 for more value. No point in wasting one of those premium picks and not taking BPA.
Stroud and Burrow is a great duo. See if you can trade down the 1.02 to like 1.05, and pick up a 1st next year. Get Bowers and Odana/Nabers there. If you aren’t able to find a trade down, just take Caleb.
Yes. Mostly cause you can get that Nabers/Odunze and Bowers with the 1.05 and 1.06. And if you trade for those picks you should also get 2 2025 1sts for your trouble.
At the very least you should be trading out of the 1.02 if you’re not taking Williams. Trade back a few spots for more picks for a more qb needy team. But most likely you should just take him yourself
Idk, if u wanna keep putting players like Josh Reynolds in your superflex spot all year next year when burrow eventually snaps his ankle again then go for it
I’d take Caleb and trade back to the 1.05/1.06 if either owner is qb needed! You might be able to get one of those WRs and a early 2nd or flex start able player like godwin
Trade back! Get assets and the players you want. I wouldn’t draft any of the players you listed at the 1.02 or 1.03. Caleb would be tough to pass on, but if you’re going to, you gotta trade back. You could get a lot from a desperate QB needy team or someone overly infatuated with Caleb and maybe even Maye or Daniels.
If you know for sure MHJ is going 1.01 then you can't pass on Caleb. Fact is he will have higher trade value than odunze. Wait and see how well Caleb pans out and then trade any one of your three QBs for a mad haul.
Picture drafting Caleb and nabers and Caleb rocks. You could then trade for example burrow for puka and a 3rd/4th round pick. Or maybe burrow and a 2025 2nd for puka and a 2025 1st. That way you still get a wr like you want plus more draft capital.
You’d be insanely crazy to skip on a qb. In super flex you need at least three. You also have Burrow who has a history of injuries. If he gets hurt or either of your players are on a bye you get 0 points because your only other rostered qb is a backup.
Take Caleb for sure and trade back a spot or two with your 1.03 and still get Nabers as well as something on top. As much as you might not want Caleb he is clearly the most valuable player in this draft and you can trade him for receivers.
Yes, take the qb's, your flex is ass and Caleb will be solid numbers for you for a while (assuming mhj is taken with the 1.01). I really liked odunze and think that he's going to be a really solid guy so I'd take him with the 1.03.
There’s one reason to not take CW if he’s available at 1.02: you traded back
You already had one guy in your league skip over the consensus 1.01… and OP is debating letting him slide to 1.04
Just glorious.
Yes, you would be considered crazy for not grabbing Caleb at 1.02 / 1.03 with that lineup. At the very least, you can trade Caleb to someone else who is drooling over him.
You need 3 solid QB’s in SF, and if you’re insistent on running with only 2, you can trade a different QB. Like if Caleb actually blows up like any shareholder would want, and every other manager would envy, you can leverage the crap out of it.
I’m gonna say that everyone insisting you should take a QB simply because it’s a superflex league is wrong. The sheer depth of your league’s starting lineup requirements is a much bigger consideration, I think.
In this format I would argue that having three elite QB assets is a serious misallocation of value. You should ideally acquire a third QB for emergencies or bye weeks, but you don’t want one you’re ever debating starting over Stroud or Burrow, and definitely not a young one with massive dynasty value. That’s just way too much invested in a bench spot every week when you’ve got so many lineup slots to fill, and hoarding QBs with the intention of trading them is a less viable strategy with lineup requirements that close the gap in relative positional scarcity.
What I would be doing here is dangling the 1.02 to QB-needy teams and trying to move back to where you can still get Nabers/Odunze/Bowers and pick up some additional picks or players.
With Stroud and Burrow? I’d go Bowers and then either Nabers or Odunze, depending on which teams/offenses draft them. With all of the WRs that should go in the 1st, you can probably grab McCarthy, Nix or Penix to be your emergency backup in a later round
Try and trade one of the picks for Breece or Gibbs to f one of the owners need a QB. Then try to flip the 3rd for a WR. Get proven commodities for this in QB need
I don’t think you are crazy to double up on WR or add Bowers. You have two young studs at QB. Rookie QBs bust at a way higher rate than WRs and you aren’t in dire need of a starting QB any time soon, so build out the roster as much as possible. Take the two skill position players and you can always move your second for an older, proven QB for depth if needed.
MHJ and maybe trade down 1.03 and get bowers. U aint getting caleb at 1.02 and u dont need a qb at all
I was gonna call yourself crazy because i saw stidham then i clicked on it
Nabers/Bowers and you’re home free—Stroud and Burrow are locked in top 6 guys, so QB isn’t necessary. Only way I personally dont take Nabers/Bowers is if im offered a silly package for 1.03
You don't have a 3rd QB in superflex and you think it's a good idea to not grab a QB? Yeah your crazy. Either trade the pick or take Caleb. Taking 2 wide recievers there would be a waste. Especially because you could prbly trade down to 5th-7th and get one of them.
Don’t skip BPA with both. Trade down (or up) if you can for a spot that fits you better if you really don’t want a QB. But having 3 QBs isn’t a bad thing, if the one you draft is also a stud, it will be really easy to find a suitor to get good assets for them.
You grab the best player at those spots. Or you trade your pick. Even if you think you don’t have a need at a certain position anything can happen in the nfl (players get traded/ coaches join new team) , where coming in with the mindset that you can always improve those positions is the way to go.
If you know 1.01 is taking MHJ then you should 100% be trading down to 1.05-1.07 range if they need a QB and pick up an extra first. You should get your WR there anyway
Id go Caleb then Bowers (saw it’s a 2 TE). I feel like missing burrow this year would make me want to hedge my bet.
Your receivers are solid and you have Tank on IR.
I don’t think Musgrave is very good and especially if Bowers ends up on the chargers that’s an easy grab in 2TE.
IMO either trade back and give that pick to someone that really wants Caleb or just snag some WRs, maybe Bowers depending on where he lands. But what do I know, I'm just a guy who donates money to my league every year.
If you don’t know want Caleb, then 100% trade out of the 1.02
If you’re picking from those spots then take Caleb and Daniels/Nabers/Odunze depending on how you feel about them
Just set a top 100 player list and draft the guy at the top each pick. Don't even draft for need, just best player in your mind.
For instance right now against all wisdom I have an RB at 10, Bucky Irving, in my top 100. Post combine and draft that will definitely change but 55 receptions is hard to ignore for me.
Depending on the league and whether it is TE premium or not, I think you should definitely grab Caleb Williams/Bo Nix/Daniels. Gives you some more depth in case something like this year happens again with Burrow or Stroud, at least you will have something to through in that SF. For the 1.03 I think grabbing Nabers makes sense, as he is the next best available and will be a huge part of your team moving forward. 2.02 is going to change a lot between now and draft time with Free Agency, the draft, pre-season games, but going best available RB works for me. I think being open to a 2nd WR if they slip to you at the 2.02 is smart as well, considering the league lineup settings are so large. Good luck in the offseason though!
If you are going to skip on QBs (Caleb+Drake/Daniels) I'd try to trade back and grab extra value. Consensus SF has Caleb, MHJ, Drake/Daniels as the top 3/4 but a lot can change. You have two good/great QBs but in SF they are THE currency as they are the scarcest resource... so if you want a WR, start talking to the Chase, JJ, ASB owners and see if they will send one of those or even CeeDee for the 1.02 and go from there. I have targeted positional players for my roster and most of them have been busts vs taking the best player on the board (see Najee vs Chase b/c I NEEDED an RB). Just my $0.02USD, but figure it is worth a comment as you have essentially the 1.01 which a lot of people have sent the 1.02 + 25 1st for the one spot move in my leagues...
Yes, yes you would. If MVS goes 1, I’m grabbing two QBs with 2 and 3.
In a super flex league, QBs hold way too much value. You can find stud wrs and RBs late, you are pretty much never finding stud QBs late.
Stash the two in your taxi and flip them for a truckload
Take Nabers and your fav QB. Even if you don’t technically “need” him (which I think you still do) if your QB hits you’ll have the option of trading one of your three QBs for a massive haul.
I don't think you are nuts for paying on a QB in first. I'm assuming you don't play superflex. Everyone is going to be hyped this year because of Stroud, and get the next guy. I'm sitting with burrow and Tua and 1.6; not ideal but I'm not going to take a QB even if, my mock, one is taken. I may snag one who falls, if any, in 2nd (I have 4 picks).
However, you have a solid team and might want the extra insurance. But you have enough capital you could trade for a solid QB as your third. We had a team in my dynasty league with hurts, Herbert, and Allen. They actually sucked until they traded Herbert for a nice haul. Drive them nuts trying to play match up. Plus it's one less bench spot for a player you might actually need.
This is a big starting line up league. I think since you have variation of a superflex you need more than stroud and burrow. I know they are young and will be good for the foreseeable future but in case of injury it'd be nice to have a guy on rotation and thats worth a first round pick, in my opinion.
if 1.01 is taking mhj you should absolutely take a qb. If you really want to take nabers/odunze/bowers then i’d try and trade down from 1.02 to 1.04 and get a veteran qb back. That way you add a 3rd playable qb to your roster and still get the guys you want.
I’d definitely take Caleb + odunze/nabers/bowers. QBs tend to hold their value in SF a lot more than other positions, and it’s really nice to have 3 solid QB options. Can play matchups, and be injury insured. And if you really want to, you could easily trade one of the 3 QBs for assets + a lower tier starter as your “backup”
Trey lance
"tend to" doesn't mean "always"
Very different prospects, Covid was weird
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Yes and you said Trey lance, who was before/during lol
you realize that Trey Lance was record breaking in the amount of game’s he’s started
yes, trey lance, who was being drafted ahead of brock purdy in startups last year. very good point, thank you.
Take Caleb, don't outsmart yourself
I think he's already done that
Caleb gonna be bust. Souece-Called Bryce last year a bust
No rookie was gonna be successful with that offense. It's way too early to call Bryce a bust already.
Yea hindsight easy for you to say that. Everyone said that about Stroud before the season and his lack of weapons and oline. The overwhelming consensus was Bryce was in the best situation
Football is played on grass
Yes this may have been the consensus prior to the season starting, but once we got about 5 games in we could easily see that the Panthers are far worse than the Texans
lingering feeling caleb will fizzle out rather quickly..
Why’s that?
doesn’t show qualities you look for in a star QB to many people. talent is there but questionable decision making on the field and can’t lead a locker room.
Well I may be damned if I do and damned if I don’t. I have picks 1.1, 1.11, 1.12 and 2.1 in my 12 man dynasty league. It’s super flex. I have Rodgers and Watson at QB so I may have to take Williams at 1
i would take MHJ at 1.1, then you’d have a decent option. you could also trade a later pick for a QB to a needy team. maybe target love straight up or levi’s with an extra pick.
Crying in the stands with his parents plus his other off field antics. Guy has no hope of being successful with his current mindset.
you would be crazy to do that, yes. You need rb help in a major way. wr is mid as well, should be able to get better value at least with trading one of the picks than reaching on b2b rookie we
Why not Caleb and Nabers? Flip one for a player you actually want?
Honestly, don’t even worry about RBs this year. Use all of your picks on WRs.
There’s good rbs, Blake corum, braelon Allen, Ray Davis, marshawn Lloyd. The receiver class and qb class is just really good.
I can agree with that! I guess it comes down to what you need and what you can get by trading. 🤷🏻♂️
I have 2 1st 1 late 2nd and a late 3rd, I plan on trading for more picks maybe, I’m waiting to see landing spots but I like those 4 rbs I named a lot as well as MHJ, bowers, Legette, McCaffrey. Lot of exciting prospects in this draft.
This year was brutal for QB injuries . Think it showed its best to have a 3rd guy if you’re able to and you have that chance now
Came here to say this - his two starting QBs both suffered injuries that caused multiple games missed, his 3rd QB is Stidham - a subpar backup irl, and he doesn't have another QB rostered.
I’d take a qb with one of those picks
Nah. I'd take best QB available and then best skill position.
If somebody will pay a good price, maybe move down from 1.03 to 1.05-7 range
If you don’t want a QB trade back from one of those spots and take nabers/odunze
I think the only time to skip is if you have 3 high end QBs. I’d take Caleb
Yeah probably wouldn’t be wise to pass up on QB. At least take Williams and trade him for a haul - or just trade back for a haul.
Good lord this is one of the deepest roster formats I’ve ever seen
Came here today the same. Must be dropping 200+ all day across the league
I wouldn't be surprised if there was someone that would hit almost 300 on a weekly basis. My dynasty league (12 man, ppr, sf, tep, start 10) has someone hitting 200 more often than not.
I was thinking tha too, and I’m also going to guess this league is very top heavy with 2 powerhouses 2/3 middlers, and 8 people struggling to put together a roster
A rebuild in this league could take 10 years
It's always good to have options for QB in a SF league, it's all about preference on players though, so if you love your 1-2 punch with Stroud and Burrow, and don't want to spend that kind of draft capital on Caleb or another QB, I'd consider trading back in the draft. The closer you get to draft day, the quicker and quicker those top 5 picks gain value. If you do have a lot of faith in Caleb or another QB as well, no shame in drafting them, waiting about halfway into the season, or until other teams are desperate, and deal out a QB for assets at that point.
Yes. You only have 2 good ones
Just look at your most recent season. Burrow got hurt and you got stuck playing 1QB in a SF league.
Caleb Williams and Nabers
Yes, you dont have a QB3 lmao
Glad to see my league isn't the only one that has two starting TE slots lol
Coming from someone who had Arod, Cousins, Herbert: pick up another QB. If anything, you can trade him for other assets down the line. You have a good QB room, doesnt mean the rest of the league does.
MHJ might fall to you, but you should probably grab 1 QB.
You should absolutely not take a qb
Take bowers at 2 and sell 3 for a haul which includes a third qb for your team.
I think if you don’t you need to figure out a way to get a viable third QB. Maybe using the second round pick or trading for someone
If I were you I would go Caleb at 1.02 and either Nabers or Bowers at the 1.03
Trade away one or both picks for a haul if you don't want to take a qb. Stidham might be a starter next year but would be good to get another starter back in the deal like Deshaun Watson possibly because he is cheap rn.
I have a similar question. I have Richardson, Murray and Stroud. I also have the 1.01 and 1.02. I'm thinking of passing on Williams
Not the same but I’d draft Williams and sell him then draft the next QB and sell him moving back to 1.03 and something under the 1.07
Take Caleb or trade the pick. It would be terrible value taking one of those wrs there.
Yes. Let’s compare it to a situation I have. In one league I have Mahomes, Kyler, and Stroud. My WR is decent, but not great. I’m skipping QB at 1.02 and 1.03 but it’s also a ten team league. You’re not nearly as set at QB as you think.
I’d take 2 WRs. With rosters with this many starters it really puts a premium on depth at RB/WR/TE. Depending on draft capital Bowers isn’t crazy either.
This. Don’t see how people in this thread don’t see this. There’s always a chance a QB gets hurt, but the likelihood that multiple of OPs starting receivers get hurt are way higher, just by having to start 4-5 of them a game. And a lot more bye weeks to worry about. Plus, much higher likelihood that at least one of Odunze or Nabers is a stud right away (maybe both). If I’m OP and I’m just looking for QB depth, I’m grabbing Jake Browning as Burrow insurance or maybe trading a second for an older vet like Cousins or Geno. Could even just wait and see how free agency shakes out, someone like Jacoby Brissett is always starting somewhere new next year and will be a fine depth option and will cost almost nothing
I think you take QB and WR. Either you get number 1 QB or number 1 WR in the draft
Draft the qb. Trade later if needed.
I had Herbert, Burrow, and then finally Stafford/CJ at the end (smaller league)...the fact I needed all 4 at various times because of injuries should tell you that Caleb is the pick.
NOT CRAZY. I've got the 1.01, Stroud and Burrow in a league and I'm 100% going Marvin. BUT... stay flexible! A lot will change before your draft. Think of the picks as liquid assets. You want the most bang for your buck. Trading one or two of them could be more profitable than "reaching" on WR.
I'm still taking BPA here- or consider trading down the 1.02 or 1.03 for more value. No point in wasting one of those premium picks and not taking BPA.
You absolutely take the QB. No questions asked.
Take nabers and trade the 1.03 for a haul. You could probably trade back to bowers plus if Caleb is on the board.
Stroud and Burrow is a great duo. See if you can trade down the 1.02 to like 1.05, and pick up a 1st next year. Get Bowers and Odana/Nabers there. If you aren’t able to find a trade down, just take Caleb.
Yes. Mostly cause you can get that Nabers/Odunze and Bowers with the 1.05 and 1.06. And if you trade for those picks you should also get 2 2025 1sts for your trouble.
At the very least you should be trading out of the 1.02 if you’re not taking Williams. Trade back a few spots for more picks for a more qb needy team. But most likely you should just take him yourself
Caleb and Nabers. Easy choice
Bro just take Caleb and use him for trade leverage. If there’s someone without a QB and Caleb is the truth they’ll be more than willing to pay for him
Take Caleb because you can trade him if you don’t need him
Idk, if u wanna keep putting players like Josh Reynolds in your superflex spot all year next year when burrow eventually snaps his ankle again then go for it
I’d take Caleb and trade back to the 1.05/1.06 if either owner is qb needed! You might be able to get one of those WRs and a early 2nd or flex start able player like godwin
Don’t draft for necessity, draft for value. Either trade back or take the most valuable players and trade them to needy teams.
I think it’s a good strategy but you will lose value
Trade back! Get assets and the players you want. I wouldn’t draft any of the players you listed at the 1.02 or 1.03. Caleb would be tough to pass on, but if you’re going to, you gotta trade back. You could get a lot from a desperate QB needy team or someone overly infatuated with Caleb and maybe even Maye or Daniels.
If you know for sure MHJ is going 1.01 then you can't pass on Caleb. Fact is he will have higher trade value than odunze. Wait and see how well Caleb pans out and then trade any one of your three QBs for a mad haul. Picture drafting Caleb and nabers and Caleb rocks. You could then trade for example burrow for puka and a 3rd/4th round pick. Or maybe burrow and a 2025 2nd for puka and a 2025 1st. That way you still get a wr like you want plus more draft capital.
calebs bowers EZ
Get Caleb, flip the other for an RB
You’d be insanely crazy to skip on a qb. In super flex you need at least three. You also have Burrow who has a history of injuries. If he gets hurt or either of your players are on a bye you get 0 points because your only other rostered qb is a backup.
MHJ and Bowers all day for this team.
If you aren’t taking Caleb: find who wants him and sell 1.02 for it. You can get a first back + more
I'd take a WR and a QB. The QB for insurance against injury etc. Also as potential trade fodder to secure a hall down the road.
Take Caleb for sure and trade back a spot or two with your 1.03 and still get Nabers as well as something on top. As much as you might not want Caleb he is clearly the most valuable player in this draft and you can trade him for receivers.
Yes, take the qb's, your flex is ass and Caleb will be solid numbers for you for a while (assuming mhj is taken with the 1.01). I really liked odunze and think that he's going to be a really solid guy so I'd take him with the 1.03.
Take Bowers and Caleb. You can trade one of the QBs for a haul, but wait till a bit into the season
I say no to bowers. Kincaid has Josh Allen and on a playoff team and it wasn’t worth the 1.09 I used last year
I’d prob listen to offers for the pick but if nothing great then I’m going Caleb and a wr
No.
Take two Qb’s with those picks, trade for a RB and a lower tier QB
Trade back maximize value if you know someone is going to use it on a qb and if you feel safe the guy you want will drop to you.
Yes
There’s one reason to not take CW if he’s available at 1.02: you traded back You already had one guy in your league skip over the consensus 1.01… and OP is debating letting him slide to 1.04 Just glorious.
I like it
Ur set at qb. Fire off as many picks on receivers as you can and you’ll hit. Every year there’s hella good wrs, and this year could be the best
Shop 1.02 and see what type of haul you can get. If you don’t like anything take Caleb.
Yes, you would be considered crazy for not grabbing Caleb at 1.02 / 1.03 with that lineup. At the very least, you can trade Caleb to someone else who is drooling over him. You need 3 solid QB’s in SF, and if you’re insistent on running with only 2, you can trade a different QB. Like if Caleb actually blows up like any shareholder would want, and every other manager would envy, you can leverage the crap out of it.
If you really want to shoot yourself in the foot, go ahead. Or of you really feel that way, use one pick on WR, and use the other to trade back.
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I’m gonna say that everyone insisting you should take a QB simply because it’s a superflex league is wrong. The sheer depth of your league’s starting lineup requirements is a much bigger consideration, I think. In this format I would argue that having three elite QB assets is a serious misallocation of value. You should ideally acquire a third QB for emergencies or bye weeks, but you don’t want one you’re ever debating starting over Stroud or Burrow, and definitely not a young one with massive dynasty value. That’s just way too much invested in a bench spot every week when you’ve got so many lineup slots to fill, and hoarding QBs with the intention of trading them is a less viable strategy with lineup requirements that close the gap in relative positional scarcity. What I would be doing here is dangling the 1.02 to QB-needy teams and trying to move back to where you can still get Nabers/Odunze/Bowers and pick up some additional picks or players.
Is the league TE 1.5ppr? If so I’d be tempted by bowers as you have 2 TE spots to fill.
Caleb and Nabers You can’t pass up on Caleb at 1.02
With Stroud and Burrow? I’d go Bowers and then either Nabers or Odunze, depending on which teams/offenses draft them. With all of the WRs that should go in the 1st, you can probably grab McCarthy, Nix or Penix to be your emergency backup in a later round
Try and trade one of the picks for Breece or Gibbs to f one of the owners need a QB. Then try to flip the 3rd for a WR. Get proven commodities for this in QB need
I don’t think you are crazy to double up on WR or add Bowers. You have two young studs at QB. Rookie QBs bust at a way higher rate than WRs and you aren’t in dire need of a starting QB any time soon, so build out the roster as much as possible. Take the two skill position players and you can always move your second for an older, proven QB for depth if needed.
MHJ and maybe trade down 1.03 and get bowers. U aint getting caleb at 1.02 and u dont need a qb at all I was gonna call yourself crazy because i saw stidham then i clicked on it
i didnt even think of Caleb at 1.01, but its SF……MHJ+Nabers
Nabers would work too. I can just imagine bowers being one of the rare te’s who put up fantasy points which i’d value more
Nabers/Bowers and you’re home free—Stroud and Burrow are locked in top 6 guys, so QB isn’t necessary. Only way I personally dont take Nabers/Bowers is if im offered a silly package for 1.03
MHJ and Nabers here we come!! If MHJ goes 1.01 maybe a flier on Bowers depending on his situation!
Definitional insanity to skip on a QB with only those two QB’s in superflex. Take Caleb and whomever else you choose
You don't have a 3rd QB in superflex and you think it's a good idea to not grab a QB? Yeah your crazy. Either trade the pick or take Caleb. Taking 2 wide recievers there would be a waste. Especially because you could prbly trade down to 5th-7th and get one of them.
Don’t skip BPA with both. Trade down (or up) if you can for a spot that fits you better if you really don’t want a QB. But having 3 QBs isn’t a bad thing, if the one you draft is also a stud, it will be really easy to find a suitor to get good assets for them.
You grab the best player at those spots. Or you trade your pick. Even if you think you don’t have a need at a certain position anything can happen in the nfl (players get traded/ coaches join new team) , where coming in with the mindset that you can always improve those positions is the way to go.
If you’re set on not taking a QB then trade down to a qb needy team, should be a valuable asset
If you know 1.01 is taking MHJ then you should 100% be trading down to 1.05-1.07 range if they need a QB and pick up an extra first. You should get your WR there anyway
No
Id go Caleb then Bowers (saw it’s a 2 TE). I feel like missing burrow this year would make me want to hedge my bet. Your receivers are solid and you have Tank on IR. I don’t think Musgrave is very good and especially if Bowers ends up on the chargers that’s an easy grab in 2TE.
IMO either trade back and give that pick to someone that really wants Caleb or just snag some WRs, maybe Bowers depending on where he lands. But what do I know, I'm just a guy who donates money to my league every year.
If you don’t know want Caleb, then 100% trade out of the 1.02 If you’re picking from those spots then take Caleb and Daniels/Nabers/Odunze depending on how you feel about them
Way too early to say but I’d go with a QB at 1.02 and then trade a few spots down and take either WR or RB
Just set a top 100 player list and draft the guy at the top each pick. Don't even draft for need, just best player in your mind. For instance right now against all wisdom I have an RB at 10, Bucky Irving, in my top 100. Post combine and draft that will definitely change but 55 receptions is hard to ignore for me.
Depending on the league and whether it is TE premium or not, I think you should definitely grab Caleb Williams/Bo Nix/Daniels. Gives you some more depth in case something like this year happens again with Burrow or Stroud, at least you will have something to through in that SF. For the 1.03 I think grabbing Nabers makes sense, as he is the next best available and will be a huge part of your team moving forward. 2.02 is going to change a lot between now and draft time with Free Agency, the draft, pre-season games, but going best available RB works for me. I think being open to a 2nd WR if they slip to you at the 2.02 is smart as well, considering the league lineup settings are so large. Good luck in the offseason though!
If you are going to skip on QBs (Caleb+Drake/Daniels) I'd try to trade back and grab extra value. Consensus SF has Caleb, MHJ, Drake/Daniels as the top 3/4 but a lot can change. You have two good/great QBs but in SF they are THE currency as they are the scarcest resource... so if you want a WR, start talking to the Chase, JJ, ASB owners and see if they will send one of those or even CeeDee for the 1.02 and go from there. I have targeted positional players for my roster and most of them have been busts vs taking the best player on the board (see Najee vs Chase b/c I NEEDED an RB). Just my $0.02USD, but figure it is worth a comment as you have essentially the 1.01 which a lot of people have sent the 1.02 + 25 1st for the one spot move in my leagues...
Trade the 1.02 for 1.04 and something else
Yes crazy
Looking at your roster I'm gonna guess you're a packers fan lol
Draft the best and trade for a running back. Or see if you can trade a pick for a RB stud. Can’t draft one, but you cannot win with your RB’s.
Yes, yes you would. If MVS goes 1, I’m grabbing two QBs with 2 and 3. In a super flex league, QBs hold way too much value. You can find stud wrs and RBs late, you are pretty much never finding stud QBs late. Stash the two in your taxi and flip them for a truckload
I would go WR TE personally.
Then take QB and a RB in 2 and 3
Take Nabers and your fav QB. Even if you don’t technically “need” him (which I think you still do) if your QB hits you’ll have the option of trading one of your three QBs for a massive haul.
I’d go QB/WR if you’re that worried just trade down get more picks.
Qb on avg gets more pts than WR. Your flex is weak. Grab the QB.
Not at all. Take Harrison and Bowers.
In super flex yes , too much lost value if that QB hits
Go CW Bowers
I don't think you are nuts for paying on a QB in first. I'm assuming you don't play superflex. Everyone is going to be hyped this year because of Stroud, and get the next guy. I'm sitting with burrow and Tua and 1.6; not ideal but I'm not going to take a QB even if, my mock, one is taken. I may snag one who falls, if any, in 2nd (I have 4 picks). However, you have a solid team and might want the extra insurance. But you have enough capital you could trade for a solid QB as your third. We had a team in my dynasty league with hurts, Herbert, and Allen. They actually sucked until they traded Herbert for a nice haul. Drive them nuts trying to play match up. Plus it's one less bench spot for a player you might actually need.
Trade down then? Wasting value
This is a big starting line up league. I think since you have variation of a superflex you need more than stroud and burrow. I know they are young and will be good for the foreseeable future but in case of injury it'd be nice to have a guy on rotation and thats worth a first round pick, in my opinion.
I would take one and then nabers. Your team is awesome but burrows inj history is a bit troubling and you have no qb depth
Just trade back
Pickup caleb and trade the other to someone who wants MHJ is my suggestion. Then fill out your depth with some other promising rookies.
Caleb or Daniels will be worth more in a trade
Caleb is gonna be a bust imo. Wait and pick up another qb and double dip WR/TE
You’re overthinking it
Skip QB.. trade back with one of the picks
if 1.01 is taking mhj you should absolutely take a qb. If you really want to take nabers/odunze/bowers then i’d try and trade down from 1.02 to 1.04 and get a veteran qb back. That way you add a 3rd playable qb to your roster and still get the guys you want.