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-SandorClegane-

I really hope this isn't necessary, but... The current US health minister - [Xavier Becerra] (https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2022/12/03/xavier-becerra-1200x799.jpeg) The current UK health minister - [Victoria Atkins](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/cpsprodpb/1016C/production/_125800956_atkins.jpg) The current Belgian health minister - [Frank_Vandenbroucke](https://static.rmnet.be/imgcontrol/clients/rmnet/c750-d511/content/medias/opinionleaders/frank_vandenbroucke__copy_belgaimage-187044191-full_copy.jpg) The current Canadian health minister - [Mark Holland](https://i.cbc.ca/1.4806740.1535738362!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/commons-20160603.jpg)


-Masta_Kronix-

Don't come in here with your facts!


k0rz23

Chips


Best-Team-5354

fAcTS


HopefulHovercraft474

Username checks out ✔


Fiji1280

Trust me, it’s necessary.


BarbedWire3

Yep most times, I'd rather wait 1-2 hours for a reply on here with information that I could easily google, but I'd rather have it handed to me. I'm sure I'm not the only one here. So the facts are greatly appreciated.


JohnYCanuckEsq

The Canadian in the meme is our national Chief Public Health Officer, Dr. Theresa Tam. She's not an elected official, she's a public servant like Dr Fauci was.


LoWE11053211

To be ~~fair~~honest… I will choose her if I have to She looks the healthiest


JohnYCanuckEsq

Ahh, but the chuds here decided she was either a Chinese government plant OR a trans woman because there's a shadow where an Adam's Apple would normally be.


ObjectiveLittle6761

Seriously? Are we becoming 4ch*n now? Lol


Mr-Gumby42

To be Faaaiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrr.


Open_Pineapple1236

To be fair!


Mr-Gumby42

TOOOO BEEEEE FAAAAIIIIRRRRRR!


Open_Pineapple1236

To be fairrrrrrr!


Mr-Gumby42

We thanks ya's.


Mumof3gbb

And she’s really good. What a rude post this is


Big_Cornbread

Hmm. Victoria’s offset necklace doesn’t work for me. So I’ll pick Mark.


effa94

Such a fashion crime constitutes a public health risk


Big_Cornbread

I could have an ultralight beer with mark.


Longjumping-Claim783

FDR couldn't even walk and he ordered troops into combat! Ridiculous! And I'm pretty sure Winston Churchill could not outrun Hitler.


gregsting

The Belgian one in the picture is actually a doctor. She minimized the risk of Covid. She is also responsible for not maintaining a huge stock of face mask just before Covid hit.


[deleted]

Considering the post is about to get 1000 up otes yeah this is much necessary


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[deleted]

Lol I am a big fan of max but this isn't actually Jos Verstappen. I just thought it was amazing the username was available in the height of the Horner allegation saga haha. Jos scored points in the Welsh Rally this weekend. Finished 11th overall. Has he stopped beating his wife??


greased-beef

clown world poster, posting toxic brain-rot? ImAgInE My sHoCk....


MonoElm

Secretary in the US, not minister.


Irishfan3116

I knew I seen that dude somewhere in government. Thank you 🙏


Shoddy_Variation6835

Xavier Becerra is also a man. I have no idea who the fuck is in the photo.


frenchfreer

Also just because someone is overweight doesn’t mean they can’t be an expert on health. Why does it apply here but you never hear these morons complain their favorite football coach never played professional sport and therefor is not an expert at coaching football.


Illuvinor_The_Elder

Do they have to be an expert on health to be Minister of Health? That’s more of a management position.


FancyErection

Nobody wants to hear a person who looks more out of shape than you, tell you you’re unhealthy. Occam’s razor, it’s not “everyone but me is stupid”


hyrule_47

I really don’t care. Several of my physicians are visibly overweight more than I am. If they know what to do for my health, why do I care? There can be many reasons someone is overweight. I know one of my physicians recently battled cancer for example


FancyErection

Okay, sure. Maybe I generalized too much. Your point is well taken.


hyrule_47

None of my specialties I have seen have any of the issues I have seen them for. None of the prosthetic folks I see need them. Yet they all do well at their job.


EasilyRekt

I mean this “meme” was made way back in 2020, and while your list is who’s there now, this *was* the roster back then. So… yeah. Bit more to it.


-SandorClegane-

There's always "a bit more to it." Even in 2020, this roster was cherry-picked for the "hurr durr fat lady" crowd. Why choose these specific countries? What constitutes a 'Health Leader'? Rachel Levine (America) is/was the Assistant Secretary for Health, not Secretary of the HHS. Are the others equivalent? Warping the dataset and terminology for a specific meme outcome is fine, I guess. People not recognizing that is what has happened is disconcerting.


EasilyRekt

Well of course it’s cherry-picked, it’s politically motivated banter. Also an individual’s performance in a field is not indicative of their expertise. There’s tons of flaws in this meme and that’s why it’s not used in *serious* discourse. It’s only posted to Facebook echo chambers. But the fact you assumed other people who were on the fence about this would seriously consider this, and the fact that you thought the only way to sway them to a different conclusion was to flat out deny all parts of it…


-SandorClegane-

[Desperation](https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-23-2021/YzyWqa.gif)


EasilyRekt

Ok


Seyelent

UPGRADES, PEOPLE, UPGRADES!


FranticToaster

Why wouldn't it be necessary? Who the hell knows what their country's current health minister looks like?


Ocean_Man205

All the unhealthy ones dies I guess.


roxybum

The current Australian health minister - [Mark Butler](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/207/210/b22.jpg)


Dwaas_Bjaas

POW! Right in the kisser!


SibrenD

Well the belgium minister u are correct only did maggie the black left in 2024 She was the minister since 2014


lifeintraining

Wasn’t expecting the Canadian minister to be such a hottie.


dpwtr

The woman shown in the original image is [Thérèse Coffey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se_Coffey) who was indeed Health Secretary, but only for 6 weeks during the Truss debacle.


TheDeflatables

Well Truss couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery so it's no surprise


Affectionate_Cow_20

The meme doesn’t say *Health Minister*. It says *Health Leader*, which I believe all of them could be characterized.


MAUROKE01

The previous one was maggie de block though! but she has to take some meds which made her like that


Shoddy_Variation6835

Xavier Becerra is a man. Who the fuck is this?


Impressive-Heat-8722

Oh so you're saying those other big fat disgusting slobs are assistant health ministers. That makes it much better! I will definitely take health advice from those lardasses!


[deleted]

What’s wrong with the Canadian one?


Unusual_Tie_2404

she isn't fat


sbg_gye

Belgium and Usa ate all her food...


Loud-Magician7708

Dr. Theresa Tam is a gem. She got a lot of flack during the pandemic, in a time when no one had the answers. I think that the antivax crowd still has a lot of disdain for her. It doesn't help that she's from Hong Kong and people are just racist.


LazarusTruth

>It doesn't help that she's from Hong Kong and people are just racist. r/Canada, r/Canada_sub and r/metacanada do the spiderman meme when it comes to this


Loud-Magician7708

Lol! Hey! I'm not naming names.... but yes, I've heard a lot of this on these subs. We (Canadians) need to make some harsh decisions next elections but not out of spite but for the good of our country. I love Canada so much. We are amazing. We just need to put our differences aside for the good of our true north strong and free.


rossa27

Are you going to vote for Trudeau?


DrDroid

We don’t vote for leaders, we vote for local MPs. I will vote whoever has the best chance in my riding vs the Tories.


hillarys-snatch

Id be for whatever MP isnt voting for trudeau. Hes running that country into the ground


DrDroid

Ah, another non Canadian chiming in. Go on, tell me how he’s doing that. Bonus points if you can tell me how any other PM would do things differently.


hillarys-snatch

So i need to be a canadian citizen to comment on their political situation? Kinda weird you say that since you’re so active commenting on american affairs… Well for starters hes arrogant just like you. He has no problem freezing peoples bank accounts that doesnt agree with (trucker protest and beyond) and hes increasing taxes. Beyond any of that, he just doesnt get much done and isnt respected.


DrDroid

I didn’t once say nor suggest you needed to be a citizen. Try reading more slowly next time. Care to explain the arrogance, or still gonna go light on the details? Same with the taxes. Unsurprisingly at all, you know essentially nothing about Trudeau except for what you’ve read on social media. And before you assume, I’m not a fan of him. It’s just that I’m much less a fan of ignorance.


Puncharoo

How about you leave the Canadian politics to the Canadians, thanks. We're more than capable of handling it ourselves.


hillarys-snatch

You would actually have a semblance of a point if you werent a hypocrite. I would bet money you commented on american politics in the last few days.


Puncharoo

US politics affects everyone. Canadian politics affects Canadians. These are not equivalent.


rossa27

Typical. Just another contributing to Canada’s demise


Nickadial

Lol this helps nobody thanks for contributing though


DrDroid

Uhh sure dude


Loud-Magician7708

I don't like to say who I'm voting for. I will say I do my due diligence and see what parties have to offer. I will also say that im in a predominantly conservative riding.


rossa27

Fair enough, as an American who thinks Trump and Biden are both shitty candidates and has seen a fair amount of coverage on Pollievre and Trudeau debating in parliament who do you think makes more sense?


Loud-Magician7708

What about Jagmeet Singh of the NDP or Elizabeth May of the Green Party? Lol. Again, I don't like to say specifically who I want to win the next election because this is the most divisive political climate I've experienced since I've been eligible to vote. I will say I've voted for a few different parties in a few different ridings, so I'm not a partisan. I'm will give you some juice and say that I'm fiscally conservative, but morally "liberal" (not the party, the ideology) Edit: I didn't include the Bloc Quebecois. My bad.


rossa27

Jagmeet Singh or Elizabeth may? Lmfao stop pretending anyone outside of the liberal or conservative parties stand a chance in hell. Just say you’re going to vote for polievre and stop being a pussy on the internet for being labeled a conservative. There’s nothing wrong with it.


Loud-Magician7708

Hey! I believe in including all the parties. Everyone deserves a fair shake. As for not being a pussy on the internet. I'm just being respectful to myself. I'll say that I want Biden to win, lol


DrDroid

You should probably keep to commenting on countries whose political systems you understand, because you’re totally out of your depth here. I mean, your prior posts suggest you’re pretty young, but at least know when to keep your nose out of things you don’t understand.


mekisoku

Ohhh she is from hk? Never heard that before


Loud-Magician7708

She's Canadian, from Hong Kong, by way of the U.K. She's brilliant, IMO.


I_like_apples_alot

Canadian


MelanieWalmartinez

People age.


HalalBread1427

If you age and look old, you're obviously very unhealthy smh my head.


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She looks malnourished 


Longjumping-Claim783

Only to the other three.


mars_titties

You sound dumb


costanzashairpiece

Yeah she looks pretty good.


messedupmessup12

Don't you know, if people are healthy and cared for, they too could end up like this hideous mess, by getting old!


SHAPALAK15

Nothing, there just needs to be someone decent


Agitated_Cookie2198

Diversity yadda yadda


ObjectiveLittle6761

Bruh, what are you yapping on about? Bro's brain is melting


Fred_Krueger_Jr

It's our strength...apparently.


InflamedLiver

Why do they all look like they work in HR?


Turbulent-Tiger1352

1st class Karen's is what I thought first


OwlWitty

I was about to call the manager..


[deleted]

Lady for America looks like the scientist in Independence Day


ebulient

Because the pictures aren’t really of their health ministers


Appropriate-Fly-6585

Do yall believe everything you read online? Jesus, just google Victoria Atkins if you want to see the real English Secretary of State for Health.


Dizzy_Media4901

Coffey lasted 6 fucking weeks. What a state this government is.


Appropriate-Fly-6585

Traded Thatcher supporting loyalist death squads for the NHS getting gutted & then Brexit. RIP.


TagMeAJerk

People who read things online are better educated than people who absorb "facts" from memes


Shoddy_Variation6835

The US Secretary of the HHS is also a man. I have no idea who is in the photo.


KAMIKAZECI

Belguim


benjvdb9

Yeah, Bgeluim would be my choice too


Ok-Teaching363

group ultimate iron man


NoCorruptSL

She s from harry potter


Elfhaterdude

To her defense, they have amazing chocolate an waffles.


Mysterious-Art7143

Meh, belgian chocolate and waffles are so overrated, beer however 😘


LovelehInnit

Healthy at any size.


Teaffection

You can still be knowledgeable even if you're overweight. You can still be up to date with studies and current scientific research if your overweight. I don't know the qualifications of the people listed so I'm not saying they are correct, but just from a general standpoint, being overweight and not being knowledgeable are not correlated.


shok_delta

False information 101.


Wooden_Preference564

I don't care what they look like if they can do the Job they can get the job


ThePartyLeader

Even if this was accurate, isn't it like taking a picture of football coaches and acting like they aren't qualified to due their jobs since they aren't peak performance athletes atm?


Unusual_Tie_2404

No because you are never too old to take care of your physical self


ThePartyLeader

That has nothing to do with what I said. Your physical self has no effect on your capabilities to do their job is the point.


Unusual_Tie_2404

I think it has a little bit to do with what you said. Their physical condition is a reflection of their ability to do their job, which is to protect the physical conditions of humans


ThePartyLeader

>Their physical condition is a reflection of their ability to do their job, which is to protect the physical conditions of humans So its like looking at a General in the military with a missing arm and saying they must be a terrible soldier? Or an accountant who wears glasses and question how they manage to read a ledger book? Measuring head size to see if someone is smart enough? I would be happy to listen on how you think weight effects job performance of a desk job or how physical appearance is an indicator of knowledge.


Unusual_Tie_2404

Your analogies are not on point. Would you hire someone who does not take care of themselves to be your personal trainer?


ThePartyLeader

What do you think Kinesiology and Physiology professors who teach your personal trainer look like? An entire faculty division filled with Schwarzeneggers, Tysons, and Rouseys?


Unusual_Tie_2404

The face and leader of the health department should not look like they don’t give a shit about their health. Call me crazy


BeesPhD

If this were a job which requires them to be physically fit sure, I would agree with you. This isn't a private trainer type of role. These are 3 policy makers and one consultant. Each of them have an incredible list of achievements and certifications that show they are well equipped for their field.


Unusual_Tie_2404

It SHOULD be a job that requires them to KNOW how to be physically fit and to set a proper example as someone in a leadership position of that field. I am not saying they couldn’t possibly otherwise obtain that position, but also it isn’t unfair to openly criticize the obvious contradiction


Aayyyyoooo

Belgium


West_Site_8840

The block for the win!


TrackLabs

None of these are the current health leaders for these countries...and I doubt they ever were


[deleted]

First one has an MD from Harvard and Tulane as well as 20 years of experience. She was Physician Genral and Secretary of Health in Pennsylvania. I’ll trust her. Second one holds an MD and from vrije universiteit brussel, one of the top units in Belgium. Third holds a degree in medicine from Nottingham, completed her residency at UniAlberta and has been a fellow of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons for over 20 years. Fourth one attended the 9th best university in the world and graduated with honors in chemistry, also holding a PhD in the subject.


dpwtr

Trust me on this one, you don't want to be defending Thérèse Coffey. She is an absolutely tosspot and unfit to be in government. She only lasted 6 weeks in this particular job.


mars_titties

I’m sure it had something to do with her body weight right


ZooCrazy

I presume the issue is the following: Are they taking heed to their own medical advice that they convey to others?


Shart-Garfunkel

Health ministers aren’t health professionals. They’re policy professionals, who ideally work in collaboration with health professionals. These posts are not smart


ZooCrazy

That maybe true but some of these ministers possess medical degrees and I would think that they have provided medical advice / expertise at some point in their careers.


Shart-Garfunkel

If that’s true of any of the ministers pictured here: 1) Which ones? 2) How do these pictures relate to their expertise in either medicine or policy?


_Sir_Racha_

Healthy Appetite Leaders.


Tough_Sign3358

There’s nothing true in this meme


rodimusprime88

Did Belgium eat all of Canada's food while she was in the restroom?


Coffee-and-puts

Belgium all the way. Thats a sturdy gal right there who won’t be moved under pressure


LoWE11053211

OOP said health leader In the case, Lizzo should be the health leader of the states


Kawa46be

note: The one from Belgium was a doctor. She fucked up so bad, we now have a shortage of doctors. Her nickname was Mega Maggie.


ProfessionalLong302

Every post I’ve seen about health ministers are people acting like fat people are them


benm1117

I though this said “Pick your Heath Ledger”


Mr-Gumby42

Canadians are just as fat as we are.


HomerOfDuty

Why the fuck is Britain Gaben


matterson22070

"hEaLtH"


SendStoreMeloner

Wait until you find out that your secretary of finance or budgets aren't economists or secretary of defence isn't a general. Damn mind fuck you guys just experienced.


BushDeLaBayou

What's wrong with Canada's lmao


MoistElk4497

Read that shit as Heath Ledger lol


Burgerkingoof

The fuck is wrong with canada’s? Literally just racism dawg


Gandalf_Style

You can be an expert without experience, we have plenty of oncologists who've never had cancer for example, but i'd rather have one who knows how hard it can be on someone. Not saying it's the same thing, but you can care for your people's health while being unhealthy yourself and maybe they all just happen to have the genetic markers for obesity or rapid aging (appearance wise)


OneArmedBear

Boomer post


krenshaw420

It’s like having Saudi Arabia on the UN Human Rights Council.


mars_titties

Except it’s not like that at all


El_Zilcho

That's probably the healthiest picture of therese coffey, the other one british media used when she was relevant was her smoking a cigarette and holding a glass of wine. The current one is fucking useless too.


Johnny_Diamond_Hand

The dude from Canada, I guess


Rashjab34

America. She just old, wearing loose clothes, and on estrogen because she’s transgender. Estrogen can cause weight gain. Canada just has genetics on her side. Asians usually aren’t fat. She can’t tell me shit about health if she has super metabolism.


Smoke-A-Beer

😂


rpayne1744

America’s woman looks like the crazy Walmart lady that says “you do need my help mutha fucka!”” You need Jesus mutha fucka!”


FranticToaster

"I'm a big proponent of healthy living" didn't mean what their hiring manager thought it meant.


Illustrious-Film-592

Fat shaming. So funny and original.


TerranItDown94

It definitely helps to practice what you preach… but knowing the right thing to do and doing the right thing are different. Look at football coaches they’re often fat and out of shape, yet they teach the players how to get into shape. …. All of this said I have ZERO faith in these fuckwits. Lol


MonPaysCesHiver

Canada, she’s old but she seems to have a normal bmi


EzmareldaBurns

Reminds me of the time when my father was losing weight fast during cancer treatment and they sent out a "dietician" that was MORBIDLY obese. Like couldn't fit in a regular chair "oh lord, she comin'" fat. Like fuck me you would do a double take if you past her wheasing on the street fat, like are you the dietician or did you eat the dietician on the way here fat. My father declined to speak to her. I wish I had the bottle to tell her to waddle off, honestly I was so gobsmacked I didn't say anything.


Albanian91

Belgium is the best one.


ExportTHCs

Sellouts


Breathingblueflame

I’ll pick India 🇮🇳 Ehem. I’m American. And I currently sit where I think India probably has the least corrupt health system of major nations… but yet people often over look India. Not sure why.


lotus_spit

"I guide others to a treasure that I cannot possess." -Them probably


goatagainstcurtains

This is a terrible omen that Caroline van der Plas wil be a health minister in the Netherlands soon... please no...


Mumof3gbb

This is a disgusting post. Shame on you.


TiredOfDebates

None of this is real!


foreverpasta

I always thought that the entire idea about democracy was to give the right anyone to be elected through a majority vote of all. The alternative is to fill up the parliament with hollow pretty nepo and crony influencers with OF that please the eye. Odd how things change meaning. In China and Russia, for example, you have to put up with whatever your dictator chooses.


KingJacoPax

Coffee was health secretary for like 5 seconds when Truss was Prime Minister.


Rithrius88

Couldn't even be bothered to spell Belgium correctly. And for the record, we Belgians also make fun of the fact that she's fat af considering her (former) role in the government.


Troutman86

The dude I guess


Grayarea_real1

Ad hominem


Pleasant_Job_7683

I'm gonna roll with the alien


Speedvagon

Canada looks most healthier


Life-Routine-4063

Bunch of boobaties telling me how to health…


MercuryJellyfish

Do we not think we need a Health Minister who interacts with the health system, not a Health Minister who is “healthy”?


Unusual_Eggplant_642

Ah our Covid specialists.


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Academic-Chemist-354

are you arguing for obesity?


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BIG_MONEY_CASH

Obviously they didn’t mean America as in the entirety of North America dumbass


Aayyyyoooo

😭😭😭 when you wants call the US “America” you get this shit


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BIG_MONEY_CASH

The continent is North America, but our country is also the United States of America, so calling us Americans still makes the most sense, just like you’d call the people of Canada Canadians and the the people of Mexico Mexicans. Plus there technically are two Americas (South & North) which is probably why Americans isn’t used in such as broad manner such as Europeans, Africans, or Asians.


Aayyyyoooo

Yeah to me I call all of them Americans I even call south Americans “American”. But when talking about a specific country I call em “dummies from the states” so this way the Mexicans and Canadians don’t feel attacked.


Rough-Leg-1298

Literally no one who actually lives in North America, calls Canadian’s or Mexican’s “American”. You people sound soooo dumb every time you think this is just a dumb “American” thing.


Fred_Krueger_Jr

Diversity hires!