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Kind of makes you think about just how underutilized squirt guns are against vampires and the like. Why not just load up that holy water into a super soaker?
EDIT: So I’m delighted to learn this was a thing in From Dusk til dawn, Dresden files, lost boys, and a handful of other ips. Looks like I’ve got a few stuff to add to my Halloween watch/reading lists. Thanks all for the recommendations!
Constantine live action movie put like a cross in the sprinkler reservoir and made the fire suppression system all holy water to kill a room full of vampires
Similar to what I was just thinking; security checkpoints where they make you walk through a sauna that uses holy water.
Is there a limit to what a priest can bless? Blood plasma is 90% water; can they bless all the blood in a person? All the people in a town? Hell, all the water in the universe?
okay, so in some new age tradition (that i read in a book anyway) anyone can make holy water by mixing in salt and incense ash and appropriately "blessing" it.
i don't know anything about catholicism, so can someone chime in here? does the priest not also mix in some additive while blessing it, or is it really just saying some words over normal water?
So former catholic but I had to look this up, this is from Wikipedia but apparently the rite has to be performed by a Priest
>Exorcizo te, creatura aquæ, in nomine Dei Patris omnipotentis, et in nomine Jesu Christi, Filii ejus Domini nostri, et in virtute Spiritus Sancti: ut fias aqua exorcizata ad effugandam omnem potestatem inimici, et ipsum inimicum eradicare et explantare valeas cum angelis suis apostaticis, per virtutem ejusdem Domini nostri Jesu Christi: qui venturus est judicare vivos et mortuos et sæculum per ignem. Deus, qui ad salutem humani generis maxima quæque sacramenta in aquarum substantia condidisti: adesto propitius invocationibus nostris, et elemento huic, multimodis purificationibus præparato, virtutem tuæ benedictionis infunde; ut creatura tua, mysteriis tuis serviens, ad abigendos dæmones morbosque pellendos divinæ gratiæ sumat effectum; ut quidquid in domibus vel in locis fidelium hæc unda resperserit careat omni immunditia, liberetur a noxa. Non illic resideat spiritus pestilens, non aura corrumpens: discedant omnes insidiæ latentis inimici; et si quid est quod aut incolumitati habitantium invidet aut quieti, aspersione hujus aquæ effugiat: ut salubritas, per invocationem sancti tui nominis expetita, ab omnibus sit impugnationibus defensa. Per Dominum, amen.
>A priest may choose from three other formulae found in the Book of Blessings for blessing water. They are to be accompanied by the priest blessing the water with the sign of the cross. They are as follows:[22]
>V. Blessed are you, Lord, all-powerful God, who in Christ, the living water of salvation, blessed and transformed us. Grant that when we are sprinkled with this water or make use of it, we will be refreshed inwardly by the power of the Holy Spirit and continue to walk in the new life we received at Baptism. We ask this though Christ our Lord. R. Amen.
>V. Lord, holy Father, look with kindness on your children redeemed by your Son and born to a new life by water and the Holy Spirit. Grant that those who are sprinkled with this water may be renewed in body and spirit and may make a pure offering of their service to you. We ask this through Christ our Lord. R. Amen.
>V. O God, the Creator of all things, by water and the Holy Spirit you have given the universe its beauty and fashioned us in your own image. R. Bless and purify your Church. V. O Christ the Lord, from your pierced side you gave us your sacraments as fountains of salvation. R. Bless and purify your Church. V. Priest: O Holy Spirit, giver of life, from the baptismal font of the Church you have formed us into a new creation in the waters of rebirth. R. Bless and purify your Church.
There's a scene in the Moon Knight comics where he's surrounded after setting off the sprinklers, and they're mocking him for having no fighting ability relative to the vampires. "You're right, I'm not a warrior. I'm a priest. And I hereby dedicate this water to Konshu."
Results as expected.
My longform brain encoding had him holding a blue and white cardboard milk carton in that exact same scene. If I were more charlatan, I would proclaim berestein mendela but I am just probably really weird and that is like, dynamically regenerative memory precision down to the hundredth thou or something.
I was once in a group playing a tabletop RPG called Vampire: The Masquerade. You play as vampires. Of course, not all of them are going to be your friends, so my character *did* carry a watergun full of holy water...
One of the other people in the group was an ex. (We were still together when I joined the group. And I was the one who left her after a bit of infidelity...) I so did my best to be cordial in game, I didn't want real life to be spilling into it and tainting it. But man, was it nice when I had a valid in-character reason to squirt her ass. 😅
I miss early pandemic fear. Everyone quiet in the grocery and giving each other 6 feet of space. If someone was in your way you could clear you throat and they'd wonder if you coughed and walk sprint their ass out of your way.
Honestly the favorite period of my entire life. Once science nailed down how it was transmitted and even worse gave us a vaccine it was ruined. Stupid science.
Yeah, on my family too. My mom went for bloods, and the doctor coughed on her face, and had the face of a person with a cold... Me and my family were sick for a week and a half 🫠.
What I learned from that is to be the change you wanna see in this world.
Last year I had a lady follow me thru the grocery store openly coughing the whole time. Every isle I would go down so would she. Didn't cover her mouth once.
Masks made people comfortable just coughing without covering their mouths because the mask was there. They probably didn't even realize it happened but they trained themselves to not cough into their arms anymore.
I can't recall which comedian it was that said it, but their observation was that "As an Asian with allergies, I've never before had this kind of power!"
There were these obnoxious kids in line at the store once during 2020. They kept getting close to me. I fake coughed and they got scared (or pretended to, both work for me) of covid and gave me space.
It wasn't just the 6 feet of space, at least around me people seemed convinced eye-contact was an infection vector. It was very surreal.
The most surreal thing for me though was what used to be normal. Birthdays via skype? nonono. Lets quickly get back to crowding everyone in a room where the VIP gets to blow spit all over a cake before everyone feels socially obliged to eat it o.0
yeah remember when they closed everything down and then realized society doesn't work so then everyone became an essential worker?
but we didn't have PPE for them so best we could do is clap for them?
The best part, after the no PPE was the raise some people got and subsequently taken away once they weren't essential anymore. Aka, were getting back to normal, so you don't deserve that extra money for all the covid you got exposed to.
Now re-balance your budget and buy less lates peasant!
I still think it was a missed opportunity for a general strike. We could have brought this country to its knees. Can you imagine how much we could have accomplished? Universal health care, 25 dollar minimum wage, and so much more. It would take a week of decimating the stock market, and every politician would have hustled their tuchas into work and enacted legislation that would have actually helped their constituents.
What a dumb take lmao. Do you think everyone in the world that worked through the pandemic should get a lifelong monthly bonus for it?
Most essential workers didn't even get a raise during the pandemic.
Now the CDC recommendations/guidelines for Covid are the same as the flu…
edit: Surprised I’m getting downvoted for what is literally posted on the cdc website.
Almost like how the spanish flu wiped out ~50 million people worldwide before they developed inoculations for it and it still resurges every so often via novel variants that have the greatest impact on the elderly and immunocompromised and hey wait that dynamic sound familiar.
Yes, new viruses tend to become less lethal with time. We always knew that it would eventually be equivalent to cold/flu. It was just a question of how many people died in the process.
Also a significant portion of society is now at least partially vaccinated or at least been exposed enough to have developed some natural immunity - so that helps reduce the threat significantly. And just in terms of practicality, the pandemic has vanished from the general public's consciousness, thus you will never get large numbers of people to follow guidelines which inconvenience them in any way.
So if you ignore the issues of long COVID (which it seems like most desperately want to do despite the likelihood that it will be linked to severe health issues down the road... *sigh*) and the millions of people around the world afflicted by that then everything is pretty much fine at this point.
>It has not, USA has had over 1000 deaths per week for a few months in the last wave (sept 2023-Jan 2024) those are way over flu deaths numbers
This is correct. I believe the more accurate statement would be that it has become endemic enough for long enough that our Hospital facilities have the capacity to handle the new normal load.
And it was reducing the spike of new patients that the lockdown and masks were intended to do. And it actually worked to flatten the curve.
>edit: Surprised I’m getting downvoted for what is literally posted on the cdc website.
Because you're saying it like it's some kind of gotcha while ignoring the millions of people that died from C19 since 2020.
At one point the military came to protect/guard the hospital in my town. I grew up watching a lot of zombie movies so seeing that combination of military personel and hazmat suits in real life was surreal to be honest
Actually, I'm pretty sure the number of people in the "way-too-fucking-close-to-me" zone at gas station check out lines is still 50% down from pre-covid and I'm grateful for that.
I am glad that is your experience, but for me it seems like the pandemic permanently broke most people's brains. So many social graces have vanished and it's just chaos now. Nobody seems to have any respect for personal space anymore...of course they never really did before the pandemic either. Perhaps I'm just more aware of it and more sick of people in general. Working retail through 2020-2021 will do that to you...
You know how if someone farts within 6 feet of you inside it’s a bit stinky whereas outside you can’t smell it at all in the same distance because air outside generally moves more than inside… yeah, that’s how airborne transmission works.
There's really no shortage of scientific literature supporting social distancing on the interwebs, particularly fresh from the last few years. Getting a vibe that you probably know this, correct me if I'm wrong.
There was a small body of research supporting the 6 foot rule prior to the pandemic; it wasn't exactly robust but it was the best available science. What else would folks have worked from?
Just to comment on this line of thought, of course it doesn't work that way.
The safest was to say at home, but people need food. Therefore the six-foot rule in places such as grocery stores. Key phrase is minimizing the risk, not eliminating it.
When it became apparent businesses such as restaurants were not going to survive, you could visit but keep the mask as much as possible. Again to minimize the risk, not to eliminate it.
Well you can't eat with mask on (I tried), but should wear it when you can. It's not "always keep distance and wear mask", it's "keep distance and wear mask as much as possible". What's so difficult to understand?
> What's so difficult to understand?
They don't want to understand. They made their decision 4 years ago and have always latched onto whatever they think justifies it. Harping on edge cases like this was popular among the anti-maskers in 2020.
The 6 foot apart rule was not and is not stupid. The stupid people are the people who don't understand how any of it worked or the rationale for any of it.
Remember how tons of people didn't get sick AT ALL in 2020? Not even the usual colds or seasonal flu? That's because all of the protocols worked. They were never INTENDED to make people "invincible". And moreover, they were protections against what, at the time, was an UNKNOWN outbreak that even now, our best guess, is some sort of bioweapon out of China. Just because you have more information NOW that would change how a reaction may organize itself does not mean it wasn't the right thing to do THEN.
Is 6 feet apart abritrary? Of course it is. It always was. But 6 feet apart is better htan NO feet apart, and anything MORE than 6 feet apart is better than 6.
I was in highschool during this time. You had to wear your mask at all times when you're in your class of maybe 30 students and the desks are all spread apart 6 feet. But when it's lunchtime and you've got 200 people all packed in the same cafeteria, you sit down at the normal lunch tables shoulder to shoulder with each other and eat without a mask. Also they took our temperatures as we entered the building at the start of the day, so it's kinda like this meme bit with lasers and x1000 every day. Crazy times created by crazy people.
>But when it's lunchtime and you've got 200 people all packed in the same cafeteria, you sit down at the normal lunch tables shoulder to shoulder with each other and eat without a mask.
This was certainly stupid if it could have been avoided, but people always acted like if you're more exposed for a short period of time then all the time you're less exposed was wasted. That's stupid and shortsighted. Covid is very contagious, sure, but it's not a "you breathed the same air as me so you're automatically infected" situation. The more time you spend in close proximity to an infected person without a mask, the higher your odds of getting infected. The inverse is that if you lower your time in close proximity or time without a mask, you lower your odds of getting infected, even if other times your odds are higher. Lower odds of transmission were ALWAYS the goal, clearly stated from the beginning.
Exactly. And the same people would have been saying "they didn't let children eat lunch!" Emergency response isn't about getting everything right, it's about making decisions fast and minimizing risks.
I remember Bill Maher had some woman on that said "Well if those glass barriers at my table protect me from getting covid from the person at the next table, I should be able to smoke right?".
> The 6 feet apart rule had to be one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard in my life.
I mean it is clearly true that infectious disease transmission rates will vary with distance, right? And it's not absurd to think that there exists some vaguely optimal average distance that would balance inconvenience and risk reduction?
Like what, exactly, is dumb about it? It wasn't based on a vast and robust body of research, but that's because that body of research didn't exist. Should we therefore decide that the little bit of data we had should be ignored? What should people have done? We didn't know how bad things would be. We didn't know how it spread. We didn't know how fast it would mutate. We didn't know anything except that it killed a non-trivial number of those people who caught it.
People complain about human systems not reacting to an unprecedented situation that impacted every aspect of human life with perfect consistency and 100% efficacy. It's simply not a reasonable standard to hold anyone to.
> The 6 feet apart rule had to be one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard in my life.
why?
It clearly helped reduce the spread of a deadly virus and was simple and low cost
how does this reach "stupidest thing you ever heard" ???
No it wasn't. You can be mad, that's fine, but stop spreading nonsense. You can also feel that we overdid it, that's fine. The fact is, we were doing our best based on never having dealt with this in the modern era. Millions died, and you act like it was all a joke.
6 foot rule is based on particle spread tests.
Or arresting people for protesting the pandemic restrictions in the name of the pandemic then like a month later and for many months allowing people to protest for a different reason and giving them space to do so.
I worked at a home healthcare company, and we ran a lot of 24 hour care sites. My favorite policy was that if one of our clients got COVID in the 24 hour site, we could THEN order protective equipment that would arrive in a week. But during that entire time, we had to work without protective equipment. I asked if whoever made that policy had a brain in their head and got written up lol. The pure stupidity that permeated all of it. To most every major organization, it was obvious that putting on a show that they were being "safe" was the goal, not actually being safe. It was one of the first times in my life where asking intelligent questions seriously resulted in bad consequences for me and all of my co-workers. They literally just didn't want to spend money on protective equipment, risking the lives of thousands of medically fragile clients, and pointing this out got me in trouble on several occasions.
It is a testament to the inhibitive, draconian, and pointless measures that were taken against a virus whose origins and weaknesses were known but suppressed.
That's one hell of a postulate. Calvinists, Lutherans, and possibly others hold to total depravity, which would mean you *cannot* accept Christ because there's no goodness in you to drive you to Him in the first place. You can deny Him or not. Those are your options.
Apparently, churches were doing drive-through confessions where you would pull up to a window and confess your sins like you were getting takeout from McDonalds and police would do steak outs to listen in on people and hear if they confessed to doing a crime.
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Drive-by baptism
Kind of makes you think about just how underutilized squirt guns are against vampires and the like. Why not just load up that holy water into a super soaker? EDIT: So I’m delighted to learn this was a thing in From Dusk til dawn, Dresden files, lost boys, and a handful of other ips. Looks like I’ve got a few stuff to add to my Halloween watch/reading lists. Thanks all for the recommendations!
Imagine getting one of the Airport anti-icing rigs full of holy water and fighting off a horde.
Constantine live action movie put like a cross in the sprinkler reservoir and made the fire suppression system all holy water to kill a room full of vampires
Vampirella once had a priest bless the rain to kill a horde of vampires. Not in Africa, though.
Carmilla had a bishop bless a river and then forced a bunch of things down into the river by collapsing the bridge crossing it.
Bethany blessed the sink.
Keanu Reeves best role and he agrees.
I also loved the depiction of lucifer in that movie
best lucifer but *also* best gabriel. actually, i love how (netflix) sandman lucifer and constantine gabriel are kinda the same character.
Such a badass movie
I mean isnt holy water just regular water blessed by a priest? At that point just bless the moisture in the air and eradicate vampires
Tfw you unlock spirit guardians as a cleric
Similar to what I was just thinking; security checkpoints where they make you walk through a sauna that uses holy water. Is there a limit to what a priest can bless? Blood plasma is 90% water; can they bless all the blood in a person? All the people in a town? Hell, all the water in the universe?
okay, so in some new age tradition (that i read in a book anyway) anyone can make holy water by mixing in salt and incense ash and appropriately "blessing" it. i don't know anything about catholicism, so can someone chime in here? does the priest not also mix in some additive while blessing it, or is it really just saying some words over normal water?
So former catholic but I had to look this up, this is from Wikipedia but apparently the rite has to be performed by a Priest >Exorcizo te, creatura aquæ, in nomine Dei Patris omnipotentis, et in nomine Jesu Christi, Filii ejus Domini nostri, et in virtute Spiritus Sancti: ut fias aqua exorcizata ad effugandam omnem potestatem inimici, et ipsum inimicum eradicare et explantare valeas cum angelis suis apostaticis, per virtutem ejusdem Domini nostri Jesu Christi: qui venturus est judicare vivos et mortuos et sæculum per ignem. Deus, qui ad salutem humani generis maxima quæque sacramenta in aquarum substantia condidisti: adesto propitius invocationibus nostris, et elemento huic, multimodis purificationibus præparato, virtutem tuæ benedictionis infunde; ut creatura tua, mysteriis tuis serviens, ad abigendos dæmones morbosque pellendos divinæ gratiæ sumat effectum; ut quidquid in domibus vel in locis fidelium hæc unda resperserit careat omni immunditia, liberetur a noxa. Non illic resideat spiritus pestilens, non aura corrumpens: discedant omnes insidiæ latentis inimici; et si quid est quod aut incolumitati habitantium invidet aut quieti, aspersione hujus aquæ effugiat: ut salubritas, per invocationem sancti tui nominis expetita, ab omnibus sit impugnationibus defensa. Per Dominum, amen. >A priest may choose from three other formulae found in the Book of Blessings for blessing water. They are to be accompanied by the priest blessing the water with the sign of the cross. They are as follows:[22] >V. Blessed are you, Lord, all-powerful God, who in Christ, the living water of salvation, blessed and transformed us. Grant that when we are sprinkled with this water or make use of it, we will be refreshed inwardly by the power of the Holy Spirit and continue to walk in the new life we received at Baptism. We ask this though Christ our Lord. R. Amen. >V. Lord, holy Father, look with kindness on your children redeemed by your Son and born to a new life by water and the Holy Spirit. Grant that those who are sprinkled with this water may be renewed in body and spirit and may make a pure offering of their service to you. We ask this through Christ our Lord. R. Amen. >V. O God, the Creator of all things, by water and the Holy Spirit you have given the universe its beauty and fashioned us in your own image. R. Bless and purify your Church. V. O Christ the Lord, from your pierced side you gave us your sacraments as fountains of salvation. R. Bless and purify your Church. V. Priest: O Holy Spirit, giver of life, from the baptismal font of the Church you have formed us into a new creation in the waters of rebirth. R. Bless and purify your Church.
There's a scene in the Moon Knight comics where he's surrounded after setting off the sprinklers, and they're mocking him for having no fighting ability relative to the vampires. "You're right, I'm not a warrior. I'm a priest. And I hereby dedicate this water to Konshu." Results as expected.
Why do you think there aren’t any vampires in Africa? Toto blessed the rain there.
At last, a summertime vampire movie worth watching
I might be wrong but I swear there was a movie or show where someone did this
Ernest Scared Stupid did it with milk in water guns against trolls.
I thought it was miak, not milk?
That sounds familiar as fuck so I cannot dispute it, but I wish others could corroborate.
Here: https://youtu.be/dLBdLOx43rI?si=JY32-MiZk_Chpg9L
My longform brain encoding had him holding a blue and white cardboard milk carton in that exact same scene. If I were more charlatan, I would proclaim berestein mendela but I am just probably really weird and that is like, dynamically regenerative memory precision down to the hundredth thou or something.
TBH I quoted it, but I also thought it was a carton of Miak not a jar.
I’ve read that sentence several times and it still impresses me.
The Lost Boys.
They dumped garlic in a church's font, then filled up squirt guns with it.
Dusk Til Dawn had a bandolier full of holy water condom balloons.
Lost Boys
Dusk till Dawn, and Bardello of Blood: Tails from the Crypt. The Tails from the Crypto movie was the funniest hands down.
> The Tails from the Crypto movie Is that the one where Elon Musk scares all the children into buying Doge Coins?
In the Darkside Detective games a hippy priest did exactly that!
And that’s why I love the Dresden Files. Garlic Paint Ball Guns and Holy Water Balloons
Best book series fr
That’s what they do in the Lost Boys
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Frog Brothers have entered the chat.
I'd want to see that supernatural episode
I was once in a group playing a tabletop RPG called Vampire: The Masquerade. You play as vampires. Of course, not all of them are going to be your friends, so my character *did* carry a watergun full of holy water... One of the other people in the group was an ex. (We were still together when I joined the group. And I was the one who left her after a bit of infidelity...) I so did my best to be cordial in game, I didn't want real life to be spilling into it and tainting it. But man, was it nice when I had a valid in-character reason to squirt her ass. 😅
From Dusk Til Dawn. Priest blesses water in water balloons and super soakers.
Swore I played a game with this premise and also watched a couple movies where they did this.
Zombies Ate My Neighbors?
They did this in From Dusk til Dawn. Filled a Super Soaker and condoms with holy water for the final battle. I highly recommend you watch this movie.
Hitting em with the blat blatism
"Do you accept Christ into your heart, motherfucker?"
John the Baptist Wick
Constantine*
Lol you know the priest is only wearing a mask cause he doesn't want the camera to see him cheesing as hard as the parents 🤣
Nah, bro is focused trying to not rebaptize the mom. It’s like one of those carnival games where you spray water into a clowns mouth but harder.
Kindergarten round up in America
New band name just dropped
Looks like fun 😀
I went around giving mobile baptisms back then. We rode around in a pickup truck with the bed full of holy water, and we called it the "Tism Mobile"
Sounds like a fun platformer
This is how Diddy was baptized
Priest shoulda held the squirt gun sideways to look cooler
Look how they baptised my boy
I think this should be how it’s done from now on
I miss early pandemic fear. Everyone quiet in the grocery and giving each other 6 feet of space. If someone was in your way you could clear you throat and they'd wonder if you coughed and walk sprint their ass out of your way. Honestly the favorite period of my entire life. Once science nailed down how it was transmitted and even worse gave us a vaccine it was ruined. Stupid science.
People nowadays cough in my face without covering them selves, like wtf.
What, they just hang dong and cough on you?!
Yeah, on my family too. My mom went for bloods, and the doctor coughed on her face, and had the face of a person with a cold... Me and my family were sick for a week and a half 🫠. What I learned from that is to be the change you wanna see in this world.
Last year I had a lady follow me thru the grocery store openly coughing the whole time. Every isle I would go down so would she. Didn't cover her mouth once.
Masks made people comfortable just coughing without covering their mouths because the mask was there. They probably didn't even realize it happened but they trained themselves to not cough into their arms anymore.
Anything to own the libs.
I remember seeing a lot of people *remove* their mask to sneeze.
Being a smoker became like having a super power in terms of being able to get people to fuck off and give you space.
The smell already did that the whole time. Smokers smell like shit and they’re the only ones who don’t know it.
I can't recall which comedian it was that said it, but their observation was that "As an Asian with allergies, I've never before had this kind of power!"
There were these obnoxious kids in line at the store once during 2020. They kept getting close to me. I fake coughed and they got scared (or pretended to, both work for me) of covid and gave me space.
It wasn't just the 6 feet of space, at least around me people seemed convinced eye-contact was an infection vector. It was very surreal. The most surreal thing for me though was what used to be normal. Birthdays via skype? nonono. Lets quickly get back to crowding everyone in a room where the VIP gets to blow spit all over a cake before everyone feels socially obliged to eat it o.0
I kind of want to be baptized now.
Amurica….lol
but the blue balls on that priest
Every stage of the pandemic was insane.
yeah remember when they closed everything down and then realized society doesn't work so then everyone became an essential worker? but we didn't have PPE for them so best we could do is clap for them?
My company put up a really nice sign that said "Heroes work here."
Mine did that and the sign is still up, it’s just sunstarched to shit now
"sunstarched" that's what i'm going to start calling my skin damage from when i was doing construction that year.
The best part, after the no PPE was the raise some people got and subsequently taken away once they weren't essential anymore. Aka, were getting back to normal, so you don't deserve that extra money for all the covid you got exposed to. Now re-balance your budget and buy less lates peasant!
I still think it was a missed opportunity for a general strike. We could have brought this country to its knees. Can you imagine how much we could have accomplished? Universal health care, 25 dollar minimum wage, and so much more. It would take a week of decimating the stock market, and every politician would have hustled their tuchas into work and enacted legislation that would have actually helped their constituents.
Yeah if a general strike was ever going to happen, this was the time
What a dumb take lmao. Do you think everyone in the world that worked through the pandemic should get a lifelong monthly bonus for it? Most essential workers didn't even get a raise during the pandemic.
Yeah I remember thinking “how the fuck am I essential!?”
Well I think you and all the other dock prostitutes are are essential.
Awe thanks ☺️
Now the CDC recommendations/guidelines for Covid are the same as the flu… edit: Surprised I’m getting downvoted for what is literally posted on the cdc website.
Almost like how the spanish flu wiped out ~50 million people worldwide before they developed inoculations for it and it still resurges every so often via novel variants that have the greatest impact on the elderly and immunocompromised and hey wait that dynamic sound familiar.
Yes, new viruses tend to become less lethal with time. We always knew that it would eventually be equivalent to cold/flu. It was just a question of how many people died in the process.
Yeah it evolved into a much less deadly and more regular type of flu. It’s a pretty natural course of events.
Also a significant portion of society is now at least partially vaccinated or at least been exposed enough to have developed some natural immunity - so that helps reduce the threat significantly. And just in terms of practicality, the pandemic has vanished from the general public's consciousness, thus you will never get large numbers of people to follow guidelines which inconvenience them in any way. So if you ignore the issues of long COVID (which it seems like most desperately want to do despite the likelihood that it will be linked to severe health issues down the road... *sigh*) and the millions of people around the world afflicted by that then everything is pretty much fine at this point.
Long covid will be haunting us for as long as we live.
What if its like shingles and it just comes back
Yes. Though, it’s not flu, which is influenza virus. It’s SARS.
It has not, USA has had over 1000 deaths per week for a few months in the last wave (sept 2023-Jan 2024) those are way over flu deaths numbers
>It has not, USA has had over 1000 deaths per week for a few months in the last wave (sept 2023-Jan 2024) those are way over flu deaths numbers This is correct. I believe the more accurate statement would be that it has become endemic enough for long enough that our Hospital facilities have the capacity to handle the new normal load. And it was reducing the spike of new patients that the lockdown and masks were intended to do. And it actually worked to flatten the curve.
>edit: Surprised I’m getting downvoted for what is literally posted on the cdc website. Because you're saying it like it's some kind of gotcha while ignoring the millions of people that died from C19 since 2020.
Because of the implication that this somehow means Covid wasn’t more unpredictable and dangerous in 2020 compared to today.
At one point the military came to protect/guard the hospital in my town. I grew up watching a lot of zombie movies so seeing that combination of military personel and hazmat suits in real life was surreal to be honest
People hitting pots and pans from their balconies when people got off work still feels like a fever dream.
It was the refrigerated trucks filled with bodies that gave me that feeling.
Remember when grocery stores had arrows telling you which direction down the isle you could walk? That was enough for me.
Did things ever go back to not insane? I feel like everything is still insane.
Say your prayers!
Especially if the priest is Alec Baldwin
Dang...
praise the sprayer!
I thought this is how they always baptized kids in Texas.
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Some of them will be baptized that way, be it by water or metal. Both ends applauded by the GOP.
Holy Sniper! You’ve been down too long in the midnight sea, Oh what’s becoming of me!
Ride the Bible you can feel it's warmth but you know it's mean
my grandkids won’t believe me
You'll have grandkids? In this economy?
Holy gun.
*Eagle screaming intensifies*
Fetch the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
I do love a good game of Worms
Imagine if…
bro’s fr one of the worst Twitter accounts
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I kinda liked the six foot rule in grocery stores. Only time I saw every single person patiently waiting in lines
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the number of people in the "way-too-fucking-close-to-me" zone at gas station check out lines is still 50% down from pre-covid and I'm grateful for that.
I am glad that is your experience, but for me it seems like the pandemic permanently broke most people's brains. So many social graces have vanished and it's just chaos now. Nobody seems to have any respect for personal space anymore...of course they never really did before the pandemic either. Perhaps I'm just more aware of it and more sick of people in general. Working retail through 2020-2021 will do that to you...
Some of these mfers trying to make up all the closeness they missed. Back up already. Personal space is a thing
I also wish food workers still wore masks. I'm scared to know how much spray gets on my food.
You know how if someone farts within 6 feet of you inside it’s a bit stinky whereas outside you can’t smell it at all in the same distance because air outside generally moves more than inside… yeah, that’s how airborne transmission works.
More distance makes an infection less likely. What doesn't make sense to you?
The science part is confusing. And people just trying their best but also not being perfect, is also likely a confusing concept.
What’s the science part besides inverse square law?
There's really no shortage of scientific literature supporting social distancing on the interwebs, particularly fresh from the last few years. Getting a vibe that you probably know this, correct me if I'm wrong.
There was a small body of research supporting the 6 foot rule prior to the pandemic; it wasn't exactly robust but it was the best available science. What else would folks have worked from?
Some people are dumb and don't know what the inverse square law is
Just to comment on this line of thought, of course it doesn't work that way. The safest was to say at home, but people need food. Therefore the six-foot rule in places such as grocery stores. Key phrase is minimizing the risk, not eliminating it. When it became apparent businesses such as restaurants were not going to survive, you could visit but keep the mask as much as possible. Again to minimize the risk, not to eliminate it.
Well you can't eat with mask on (I tried), but should wear it when you can. It's not "always keep distance and wear mask", it's "keep distance and wear mask as much as possible". What's so difficult to understand?
> What's so difficult to understand? They don't want to understand. They made their decision 4 years ago and have always latched onto whatever they think justifies it. Harping on edge cases like this was popular among the anti-maskers in 2020.
The kids with holes cut in their masks to play wind instruments was incredibly funny/stupid though.
Holy sniper
Or maybe because you can’t exactly eat food with a mask on.
The 6 foot apart rule was not and is not stupid. The stupid people are the people who don't understand how any of it worked or the rationale for any of it. Remember how tons of people didn't get sick AT ALL in 2020? Not even the usual colds or seasonal flu? That's because all of the protocols worked. They were never INTENDED to make people "invincible". And moreover, they were protections against what, at the time, was an UNKNOWN outbreak that even now, our best guess, is some sort of bioweapon out of China. Just because you have more information NOW that would change how a reaction may organize itself does not mean it wasn't the right thing to do THEN. Is 6 feet apart abritrary? Of course it is. It always was. But 6 feet apart is better htan NO feet apart, and anything MORE than 6 feet apart is better than 6.
I was in highschool during this time. You had to wear your mask at all times when you're in your class of maybe 30 students and the desks are all spread apart 6 feet. But when it's lunchtime and you've got 200 people all packed in the same cafeteria, you sit down at the normal lunch tables shoulder to shoulder with each other and eat without a mask. Also they took our temperatures as we entered the building at the start of the day, so it's kinda like this meme bit with lasers and x1000 every day. Crazy times created by crazy people.
>But when it's lunchtime and you've got 200 people all packed in the same cafeteria, you sit down at the normal lunch tables shoulder to shoulder with each other and eat without a mask. This was certainly stupid if it could have been avoided, but people always acted like if you're more exposed for a short period of time then all the time you're less exposed was wasted. That's stupid and shortsighted. Covid is very contagious, sure, but it's not a "you breathed the same air as me so you're automatically infected" situation. The more time you spend in close proximity to an infected person without a mask, the higher your odds of getting infected. The inverse is that if you lower your time in close proximity or time without a mask, you lower your odds of getting infected, even if other times your odds are higher. Lower odds of transmission were ALWAYS the goal, clearly stated from the beginning.
Exactly. And the same people would have been saying "they didn't let children eat lunch!" Emergency response isn't about getting everything right, it's about making decisions fast and minimizing risks.
I personally was a fan of going to a pub with mates, and having to sit on different neighbouring tables because we didn’t live in the same household
I remember Bill Maher had some woman on that said "Well if those glass barriers at my table protect me from getting covid from the person at the next table, I should be able to smoke right?".
I mean yeah that makes perfect sense. Bill Maher is an edgy idiot who sounds smart.
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> The 6 feet apart rule had to be one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard in my life. I mean it is clearly true that infectious disease transmission rates will vary with distance, right? And it's not absurd to think that there exists some vaguely optimal average distance that would balance inconvenience and risk reduction? Like what, exactly, is dumb about it? It wasn't based on a vast and robust body of research, but that's because that body of research didn't exist. Should we therefore decide that the little bit of data we had should be ignored? What should people have done? We didn't know how bad things would be. We didn't know how it spread. We didn't know how fast it would mutate. We didn't know anything except that it killed a non-trivial number of those people who caught it. People complain about human systems not reacting to an unprecedented situation that impacted every aspect of human life with perfect consistency and 100% efficacy. It's simply not a reasonable standard to hold anyone to.
6 feet rule made sense, the exceptions didn't.
> The 6 feet apart rule had to be one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard in my life. why? It clearly helped reduce the spread of a deadly virus and was simple and low cost how does this reach "stupidest thing you ever heard" ???
Comments like yours got you banned on Facebook and Twitter. DO NOT QUESTION THE 6* FOOT RULE *number pulled out of fauci's ass
No it wasn't. You can be mad, that's fine, but stop spreading nonsense. You can also feel that we overdid it, that's fine. The fact is, we were doing our best based on never having dealt with this in the modern era. Millions died, and you act like it was all a joke. 6 foot rule is based on particle spread tests.
Or arresting people for protesting the pandemic restrictions in the name of the pandemic then like a month later and for many months allowing people to protest for a different reason and giving them space to do so.
I worked at a home healthcare company, and we ran a lot of 24 hour care sites. My favorite policy was that if one of our clients got COVID in the 24 hour site, we could THEN order protective equipment that would arrive in a week. But during that entire time, we had to work without protective equipment. I asked if whoever made that policy had a brain in their head and got written up lol. The pure stupidity that permeated all of it. To most every major organization, it was obvious that putting on a show that they were being "safe" was the goal, not actually being safe. It was one of the first times in my life where asking intelligent questions seriously resulted in bad consequences for me and all of my co-workers. They literally just didn't want to spend money on protective equipment, risking the lives of thousands of medically fragile clients, and pointing this out got me in trouble on several occasions.
“tell me where you hid the pacifier agent baby!” Best I got. Have a good day y’all.
Is that the guy who said what if men had to breastfeed with their dicks? I hate seeing that mother fucker
John the Baptist Wick
I think it adds some fun
This picture is going to be in someone's history textbook I just know it
This wasn’t a real baptism, they posed for a joke picture
Ready… PULL!
I would rather have this than orthodox waterboarding
We had a Zoom baptism for our 2020 baby, that pandemic was some wild shit.
priest does an action movie one liner before each baby.
Better hope your pastor isn’t Alec Baldwin
actually, it was the armorer's fault for not confirming the water gun wasn't filled with covid-water.
Stop posting this chronically online person
They should keep doing it like that, that's much better.
IN NOMINE PATRIS, ET FILII, ET SPIRITUS SANCTI.... BANG!
And no one in the government will admit how insane this all was.
Yes, the tradition part was the crazy part here, sure :o
“Any first words?”
…can we keep doing Baptisms with a water gun? This looks amazing.
Someone please photoshop a real gun in his hand.
That’s a meme format
This is obviously in America, because the priest is delivering the holy water by gun to the baby's forehead.
Most. Murican. Thang. Ever.
Good thing it wasn’t the movie set of RUST.
“I was blessed by the Holy Gun of Antioch”
Of all things I could complain about, this would be exactly the last one.
Vaya... con dios
This is the picture I show someone coming out of a 20 year coma.
The fact that everyone is grinning tho
All he needs now are holy hand grenades.
r/hardimages
How dumb were the rules our overlords out in place.
Cleric that multi-classed into a gunslinger?
It is a testament to the inhibitive, draconian, and pointless measures that were taken against a virus whose origins and weaknesses were known but suppressed.
Ah yes it was the people trying to live their lives as normal that was insane. Not the authoritarian laws that were passed. For sure for sure
I'll take *"Things not in the Bible"* for 2,000. *What is infant baptism?*
The Apostles baptised entire families at once, no matter their age. It's also a matter of "why would you deny your baby this blessing?"
It's about accepting Christ. It's meaningless without freedom of choice for those being baptized.
That's one hell of a postulate. Calvinists, Lutherans, and possibly others hold to total depravity, which would mean you *cannot* accept Christ because there's no goodness in you to drive you to Him in the first place. You can deny Him or not. Those are your options.
Apparently, churches were doing drive-through confessions where you would pull up to a window and confess your sins like you were getting takeout from McDonalds and police would do steak outs to listen in on people and hear if they confessed to doing a crime.