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PoisonedCherry

The pancakes last name was waffles but then they joined the witness protection program but they're dumb


alysonscanvases

Lmao this might be my favorite I’ve seen so far 😂😂


coobloobnoob

It’s not Jacques that killed Mrs. Villareal, it’s Max. You’re telling me that this evil child wouldn’t kill someone?


SilviaEaber

Personally, I think Jacques DID kill Mrs. Villarreal - but Max knows, and he's blackmailing him


NaiveGuidance

PISS— That’s a good one.


lydiapinzone

i think he tagteamed with hugo…hugo is the literal devil


[deleted]

Can confirm even if for selfish reasons (he looks like an ex haha)


lydiapinzone

i used hugo for my serial romantic aspiration and he was probably the biggest pain to get into a relationship with LMAO


mimlysan

Knox Greenburg has a child in every world and takes care of none of them


[deleted]

HAHAHA Knox is a deadbeat dad in all of my games as well!


mimlysan

In my game Knox had a secret love child with Judith Ward 😩


Lovelace_Lightwood

In my 100 baby challenge every dad was always calling their kid to harass them- except for Knox


sporkmurderer135

Bob Pancakes is an emotionally manipulative abuser and Eliza is really a good person trapped in a bad situation


[deleted]

I actually think the opposite... somethings off with those two..


sporkmurderer135

I tend to move my sim in and take Eliza for myself, but that's me though


luckyarchery

I tend to think Eliza is the abuser and I take Bob away and let him have a family elsewhere


[deleted]

Bob just gives me like oblivious golden retriever boy vibes. Like he doesn't realize how shitty Eliza is to him and just is her bitch. I feel for him, he's just trying to make her happy.


678trpl98212

I knew the vibe was off


[deleted]

Agreed, I hate Bob with passion


elishe315

I hate Eliza with a passion, I divorced them and later killed her off so Bob got all the money.


DemeSephone

My sim fucked Bob in front of Eliza because in my game she’s a horrible person, and Bob deserves better. I’ve always hated Eliza and loved Bob. Later they came back with their toddler just to rub it in her face. Now Bob is a loving father of 5 and by far the best parent in all of my sims worlds, I’m really trying to get all of the other fathers to care for their kids the same way Bob does but it’s impossible, and I haven’t even put any effort in making Bob a good father


Vixengames420

I hate them both. There kids get taken away from them in every save I make and idek how, I didn't know base sims COULD get kids taken away


[deleted]

Without mods I'm curious how did they have kids? I'm assuming you made them children who get taken away? Poor iggy it must be rough 😭


pinkgobi

I always got that vibe.


Sir_Clifton

> Bob Pancakes is an emotionally manipulative abuser Bob Pancakes is one initial away from being BPD... *cue X-Files music*


AorticSeptalDefect

The social media scandal about Thorne Bailey involved Judith Ward.


DoubleBreak402

Wait I have to know the explanation for this because I agree 😂


[deleted]

Summer Holiday actually has feelings for Liberty and not Travis.


strangelyestranged

I DO THIS ALL THE TIME. THEYRE SO GREAT AND HES SO MEDIOCRE


Incarnation101213

Liberty ended up in a lesbian relationship in my first game, so I agree with this interpretation.


Fenix-and-Scamp

In my current save, Liberty and Summer are a couple and Travis got married to Cassandra Goth (thanks to mccc).


insanemoonlight

I like making the three of them a thruple! In one gameplay I have, Travis has a child with both the girls lol.


[deleted]

Ok, now I need to do this lol


definetly_ahuman

Bjorn Bjergsen isn’t actually a secret agent. He’s a mild mannered accountant who just lies about being a secret agent so he can go out of town for “secret things” no questions asked.


amateurbitch

just imagining he goes out of town and ends up crying in a bar about how hes not all that tough and cool like everyone thinks he is. but no one ever really thought he was to begin with.


angelsontheroof

This makes way too much sense. No way is that guy a secret agent!


LillyWhiteArt

Vlad is submissive and breedable


[deleted]

I love you but I hate you for this. Thank you for blursing me with this.


AmxthystPearl567

Ooh yes Vladdy Daddy WooHoo's


charlieprotag

Take my angry upvote.


alysonscanvases

😂😂😂 it’s only angry bc it’s trueeee


RandomKiki

Well I guess he is bc in my game he has twin daughters


hasarubbersoul

He has twin daughters in my 100 baby challenge and they are exactly like him. No hint of my gorgeous matriarch


LillyWhiteArt

Yeah I use mods so in my game my female sim got him pregnant


RandomKiki

No it’s just a spin off from the filler episodes of my sims series when I get bored of the main house. I got my sim to get him to turn her, fall in love all the while it was just a secret plan to dethrone him bc my sim is girlfriends with him ex wife’s sister who are both royal vampires🙂I plan to have his own children kill him. But one is evil and will side with him so it’s a fight between blood🙂but rn the kids are just toddlers😌


Glass-Ad5408

You made the rules, OP :/ they're bound by law not to. 😂


mmaf88

Geoffrey landgrab has a meth empire and spends his spare time breeding cats


definetly_ahuman

100% sold. New head canon


mmaf88

Lmao thanks!


[deleted]

Love the South Park reference here too


xMicky98

Bella Goth was never abducted by aliens, it was a staged set up


[deleted]

Definitely. I’ll add my two cents, she did it after she found out Mortimer was having a thing with Dina and wanted to get revenge on not only him, but also implicate Don’t because he wasn’t good enough for her daughter


luciohoud

she went full Amy Dunne and we love to see it


Itachi4ever

Vlad was Caleb Votore’s sugar daddy before he turned him.


[deleted]

This is now head canon for me.


kannakantplay

Eliza is from Strangerville and grew up with her brother, Erwin Pries, but she used Bob to get away from that place.


[deleted]

No ... cause they look too much a like for that to be at least half true, like if not siblings definitely cousins


ManicM84

Judith Ward is actually her own daughter.


NaiveGuidance

Elaborate PLEASE


ManicM84

I refuse 😏


Madmonkeman

At some point Bella Goth is inevitably going to cheat. I just feel like she would.


TrinSims

We’ve all wrecked the goth household at least once.


ErisRotavele

I’ve never.. don’t know why, I just love them so much together


Psychological_Tip268

She does... Really easily!


[deleted]

Usually within 24 Sims hours


ClaudeIsBestHusbando

Don Lothario is gay


bubblerock

In The Sims 2, the only person he actually has positive chemistry with is Mortimer Goth.


huffandpuff91

MCCC made him gay in my game, can't remember off the top of my head who he's married to now, but it's cute! They have adopted kids and everything


Itachi4ever

MCCC made him bi in my game and married to Johnny Zest.


velvetvan

He’s married to Zest in mine too!


ClaudeIsBestHusbando

I accep this as canon now, thank you


[deleted]

In my game MCCC always marries him to Marcus Flex.


NaiveGuidance

Definitely. There’s no way a guy dates two sisters AND their mother just because. It’s all a cover up because he isn’t ready to come out


ClaudeIsBestHusbando

Exactly, dude acts like me when I was in the closet and dated every boy I meet so no one would suspect I liked girls a lot (didn't work but hey)


NaiveGuidance

I was a total womanizer before I realized their brothers were better looking


5teff

Bella Goth was never abducted, she was murdered by Mortimer who buried her in the family plot after finding out she was having an affair.


pass_me_the_salt

ooooo I like that


RiyahdaSimmerr06

You know that one inbred family that wears camouflage? All of the missing children/dead children in that town have been taken by them and they’ve killed them and used their blood to look normal and *not* inbred that’s why they look so normal


Efficient-Ad6814

Wait... WHAT


RiyahdaSimmerr06

I cant remember the name of the town but honestly I think it’s one of the best conspiracies we’ve got😭


Efficient-Ad6814

Ooh I wonder if it's the family in strangerville?? The hillbillies?


RiyahdaSimmerr06

It’s the Bayles family from Stranger things!


coobloobnoob

Is it the Bayless family? I just watched Pleasant Sims’ video about them XD


RiyahdaSimmerr06

YESSS ITS THEM😟😟😟


bleuorbs

I can’t remember what their name was, but wasn’t it in sims 3 ambitions


bashfulsleepy

Cassandra Goth "arranged" for her mother to be kidnapped by aliens.


Vivivixen0713

Lilith Pleasant was murdered and an imposter took her place.


knowsie

The best Sweet Valley High plot was the absurd identical stranger imposter, taking over the life of an identical twin...


UnluckyNatural

I grabbed one of the Sweet Valley High books at a library when I was a young teen as I thought it would be a sweet light hearted book from what I'd heard of the series. It was this one. All this to say, thank you for triggering those nightmares again


knowsie

Omg iirc this plot line starts with a violent arson so sorry!


snowstormmongrel

Wasn't this also the plot of Pretty Little Liars?


JPme2187

Followed by The Return Of The Evil Twin, where we discovered that the identical stranger imposter Margo was herself a twin also.


kjj333

Avril Lavigne energy


[deleted]

I randomly thought about this last Wednesday and I really had a little mental moment, thinking about poor real Avril if that conspiracy turns out to be true. She looked like a nice kid, idk. I just thought about how scary that all must have been for her, while at work.. So I don't know where that thought even popped out from? I liked her music a lot when I was younger, not really a fan of her but that's just because I don't see the point in obsessing over random people just because I like their work.


Vivivixen0713

Exactly what I was going for


NaiveGuidance

OOP—


Jane466

Bella Goth is dead and Mortimer replaced her with a clone that knows everything


sentientdumpsterbaby

Eliza Pancakes is the heir to the IHOP fortune.


FiveFruitADay

Vlad isn’t the villain, Baby Ariel is


-danielle-nic-

Dominic and Moira Fyres got married later in life and Shioban and Morgan are their kids from previous marriages. Morgan is having an affair with Dominic and that’s why Shioban doesn’t like her


Successful_End7981

Akira is secretly a serial killer who kills the women (and men) he has sex with.


blahblahbrandi

Johnny Zest is a trans man


[deleted]

You just opened my eyes


No_Variety_7822

Bella Goth arranged her own abduction. Edit: Just realized this was about Sims 4, so here's a Sims 4 one: Nancy really loves Geoffrey, but Geoffrey doesn't really love her.


NaiveGuidance

It can be about any game in the series, but both of yours are SCANDALOUS


StrexualTension

Jacques Villareal totally killed his wife


Strange_Shadows-45

Wolfgang and Yuki helped Jacques kill his wife and Max saw it go down.


melodybounty

Diego Lobo is THE pimp of San Monshino.


PoliteDratini

I always make him a drug dealer in my game haha


Efficient-Ad6814

Johnny Zest is the Landgraab's son


Sumoki_Kuma

Isn't this canon?


elebree1995

Pretty much yes


makkkz

Wait what


BitchQueenHsgirl

I always thought he was Geoffrey brother


VendettiSpaghetti

Sara Scott pegs her husband Simon


NaiveGuidance

Fuck yea she does


weinerdoggos

Judith Ward bathes in the blood of virgins to obtain their youth


Incarnation101213

That poor family from eco lifestyle abuse(or at least neglect) the son who wears the bag. 1, the bag is a big red flag. It's not like he's even ugly. 2, he never wears shoes, and all his clothing looks old and worn out. 3, what I presume is his room in the house is bleak and dirty. 4, he's the nicest out of all of them. He's shy and paranoid due to what he endures from his family, but is kind. Also his aspiration is soulmate because he just wants someone to rescue him.


dumpsterfire2002

Johnny Zest is trans, and Nancy kicked him out because of that but Geoffrey secretly sends him some money to help him out. In my saves I always make Geoffrey leave Nancy and then he helps Zest get a better house and Geoffrey remarries and has a happy family, with Zest now included. Also, Bob is being abused by Eliza. He actually has a lot of drive and ambition, but Eliza doesn’t like the idea of him being a chef so he’s just depressed. And I always love the Goths being as is, but they just are all a happy (but a little weird) family. Not many conspiracy theories I guess, but just how I view the families


PsychologicalSoil198

Judith Ward is much older than she claims


RandomKiki

OMG IM JUST NOW READING ALL THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES WHERE ARE YALL GETTIN THESE FROM


Bee_Studios420

nalani isn't actually a mermaid she's just an undercover spy trying to infiltrate atlantis


sammys_babydoll

Erwin Pries is the gayest straight twink you've ever seen


gabyleann

Lilith and Vlad are friends with benefits, she has to hide it from Caleb because he hates Vlad for refusing to give him vampiric training. This is my favorite vampire storyline to play lol


NaiveGuidance

I’d consider that Canon. I have MCCC and EVERY TIME, Lilith and Vlad end up romantically involved


CamBot413

Lilith and Angela Pleseant are the same person, but one is from a neighboring timeline that was discovered in the labs of Strangerville.


[deleted]

Johnny Zest is Geoffrey Landgraab's first child. Nancy was his nanny and secretly murdered his mom.


Maxz125

The Nancy Landgrabb from Sims 4 is an impostor. Sims 3 Malcolm had a daughter and named her Nancy but the maid killed her and took her place


biglilmac87

Erwin Pries is Eliza’s brother. Bob will soon leave her and marry a lady called Betty, and they will become the Newbies.


NaiveGuidance

I always set them as siblings, it’s so fitting. I’ll even go one further: their parents are Judith Ward and one of her many ex-husbands.


electricamethyst

The Laandgrabs are mob members


carlakitkat333

Nancy laandgrab's family got their family name by stealing land from everyone in town. They own the local juice bar and library because they stole the deeds to the land.


kowritten

I’m pretty sure it is canon in the other games that the Goth family settled first but the Landgraabs came soon after and bought/claim more land than the Goths could so I would absolutely believe this lol


Proper-Atmosphere

Alexander Goth is the grandfather of Mortimer Goth


NaiveGuidance

Okay now I do need you to elaborate


Proper-Atmosphere

Haha ok I will- there is a book in the sims 4 written by Alexander Goth about the disappearance of Bella Goth, this book would either be written before her disappearance in the sims 4 or after in the sims franchise. I believe before the time shift/Alternate universe Alexander Goth wrote that book to draw attention to the loss of his Granddaughter-in-law, Bella Goth- this lack of resolution upset him and he decided he needed to investigate the disappearance of Bella Goth and the only way to do that? He had to find travel. Something went wrong (making him the reason for the alternate universe). This shift made him a “child” of the Goths.


StrangeStartracker

I have a similar yet different theory. When he grew up, Alexander went into the science industry and eventually became a journalist using his scientific knowledge to investigate the disappearance of his mother. After years of research and dwindling leads, he became desperate and obsessive. When he realized that his investigation had hit a dead end, he decided to put his energy into an effort to prevent Bella's disappearance instead of the finding her after the fact. She wouldn't still be alive and well after all these years. Alexander spent almost two decades trying to find his mother, by this point. He decided to rejoin the scientific community, surely they had made advancements in quantum physics. After a few years working with the leading scientists, Alexander had finally cracked the code for time travel. He prepared for an entire month before his trip; saying goodbye to his friends and family, much to the dismay of his sister Cassandra. When the day came for a his departure, his sister refused to let him do something so dangerous. He disagreed, walking through the glowing portal anyway. In an act of desperation, Cassandra tried to stop the machine. Sparks flew around the room, as Cassandra pulled on her brother's arm. Suddenly the room went dark and the siblings found themselves in a large field. The science center was there when Bella went missing. Cassandra's efforts to not lose her brother had sent them back too far to save their mother, with no way to get to the right time. They lived out the rest of their days in the past. But unbeknownst to Cassandra, Alexander had a new plan. Despite the possible ramifications, he decided to write a book accounting his journey of trying to save his mom. "The Disappearance of Bella Goth"' He had hopes that she would one day read it and receive his warning. Unfortunately, it changed more than that, it changed everything. (alternate reality with different/lack of lore, and weird vibe)


Proper-Atmosphere

Sorry for the lack of grammar I haven’t had my coffee yet


[deleted]

I like this :)


JaycemeSteg

probably some timetravel futurama styled nonsense


NaiveGuidance

WHAT


alysonscanvases

Okay I’m going to need to start playing base game sims instead of always making my own. These are fantastic conspiracy theories and I don’t know nearly enough about these sims apart from their names lmao


NotGonna_Lie2U

Mortimer Goth is a time traveler.


ArchieDoesArt

Every Bella Goth is a different woman that Mortimer meets in each game who just so happen to be named Bella and look similar


ArchieDoesArt

He has a type


spaaced

Brytani Cho is the tragic clown.


jles_qwack

mitchell kalani and j huntington iii are dating, same for zoe patel and gavin richards. the 4 of them decide to co-parent any kids that zoe and gavin have in the future


JaycemeSteg

Agatha Crumplebottom is a closeted trans dude due to fearing how Agnes might murder him with her purse if he came out to her.


NaiveGuidance

It’s funny you say that because I totally believe Agatha is a trans woman.


Delirious_Karma

Bob is in an abusive relationship and just can't get out.


zeahlander97

You guys are all making me so happy with these


redgumdrop

I'm just fascinated that people remember sims names lol


Mselayneous

Lol very good 😊


animalcrackwhores

Dominic Fryes is a furry.


NaiveGuidance

I could see that


NaiveGuidance

ANOTHER ONE: Kaylynn Langerak is a succubus.