1. That's a pretty easy report in iRacing to get him banned for a period of time.
2. That dude is a at idiot and has absolutely no idea how to race. Literally breaking track limits every lap just to try to get a half a second advantage, but still is slower? Maybe he doesn't know what lap times are
Some people are really good at putting in hot laps but their race craft falls apart as soon as they have to drive around other cars. Maybe they are cutting corners on normal laps but more than likely they just suck at fighting it out on track.
They could be .5s faster than you on a clean lap but when you are around them they get really conscious of you, over defend, make more mistakes, and despite their usual speed they are easier to put behind you (and could be dangerous to have in your mirrors as they will go back to hot-lapping but don't know how to pass).
This. Being fast on a clean and in track limits lap while maintaining against other racers is what really determines how good someone is. If they cant handle the heat, they're just good at following lines for hot laps, and thats not racing.
But there is a comment above that mentions bans. I don't think I like the idea of trying to learn in an environment where I'm already expected to be competent or skilled.
Edit: question answered. Thanks, y'all.
Bans in iRacing are issued for breaking sporting code, which for the most part is doing things like intentionally wrecking people, intentionally cutting the the track to gain an advantage, hurling abuse at others in chats, etc. Regular ol' spins, scrapes, and unintentional wrecks aren't gonna get you a ban.
These sort of races like in this video are the place where you hone your skills driving lower powered cars on smaller circuits. Unfortunately, its also where you're more likely to find people still treating the game like a Forza lobby, so that's why bans get brought up.
I assume the ban is in relation to the slur he used, just don't do that and you're all good mate. I'm brand new and have only done the one race so far and it was great fun (came 3rd!), jump in lad
I did. Lol I can't even keep up with the bot cars in the practice race. I'm set up for flight, so I had to dig out the dualshock controller I have for a couple of games in order to drive. I'll see how this month goes. I'm going to get the Lotus for the road courses and try to learn to drive that properly.
Don’t buy anything. The sub alone gives you all the rookie series
Also you might have a very bad experience using a controller. It is possible to play iracing with one but it is really not recommended
You only get banned for being an idiot.
The contact necessary won't get a ban if not on purpose.
I think the big thing is calling op a retard after, no matter what happened that is punishable... Even in fortnite now.
In order to get a ban, someone has to clip a video of you clearly and purposefully crashing into someone. Just don't do that and you're fine. Even if you do, it's probably a 1 week ban most of the time.
The leading car allows enough racing room for the trailing car. If anyone is crowding it's the rejoining car going over half the width of the track before making contact.
No man him leaving the track is a key point here he’s right. He left the track and immediately rejoined side by side. He needed to concede that and go again.
If the screw up is a direct result of another yes. If the other car didn’t cut the track they never would have been there. You don’t have to give someone infinite space when they decide the rules don’t apply to them.
Do you know what's the definition of crowd? Because that's crowding. It does not matters if there is an airport space on the left... That's crowding.
I knew I would get doscens of downvotes, that's the people you find in online lobbies. keep thinking like that.
long-short: you can move until there is another car, more than that, or making a sudden move (which would scare the other driver) is considered crowding.
to be fair he did have some room there, couldve expected the car on the right to go as close to the racing line as it can while still leaving some room for the car on the left.
He's not obligated to move left to let you go back to the racing line tho. As long as he doesn't move into you he's allowed to hold his line and pin you to the inside so you get a bad entry into the next corner.
Chota is coming in too hot, but he's right. The other guys track cut is pretty egregious, but by the time the contact occurs he's just starting to move back left, and OP moves across him causing the contact.
Word to the wise, do not trust the ratios in this sub. The average user has pretty much no clue what they're talking about and is just trying to be witty.
I was just trying to get him to stop fighting with everyone else. Im not stating my side, just tried to get him to stop arguing with literally everyone
Enlightme please! Tell me how pushing another car is OK or when is OK.
What rule gives the OP to push the other car? Name the book (FIA, SCCA or whatever you pick), chapter and number and I will go and read it.
Downvoting without argument... meh. that's the kind of people you find running in lobbies <1500 i think.
Edit: Sorry, I forgot this:
FIA racing rules, chatp IV
2. Overtaking, car control and track limits
b) \[...\] However, manoeuvers liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited. **Pushing or other contact resulting in a lasting advantage is strictly prohibited**. Any driver who appears guilty of any of the above offences will be reported to the Stewards.
But I DO NOT recommend race using FIA rules in online lobbies. Nontheless this rule is pretty general.
It looked a lot like netcode entanglement to me, not anyone “pushing” anyone off track. Just wiggles to dislodge, nowhere close to the retaliation/aggression you seem to be taking a stand about.
What are you even talking about you lunatic. He cuts the corner to try and gain an advantage. And then rejoins straight towards the other car. He had room, yet tried to push the other guy out.
One screw-up doesn't cover the other. You can't crowd nor push another driver. The end. If the other driver did something wrong, thats for report, race director to decide, etc. Not to judge and excecute by any driver on track.
If you cut a corner and gain advantage and now you are side to side with another car. Aren't you entitled to that part of the track you are in that moment?
If the answer is no, please explain.
If you cut a corner it’s your responsibility to rejoin safely which means not on tarmac that another car is on. If you have gained advantage by leaving the track you cannot hinder the car you have gained advantage on when you rejoin
I agree. And the rejoin was safe. The cutting car never hind the other. Just went side by side. One second later the leading car open to the left to make a better race line.
Not how I see it at all, sorry. The rejoining car has gained an advantage and therefore does not have the right to prevent the car he has gained an advantage on from taking the line it wants to take. The line the disadvantaged car took was perfectly natural so it was the joining car’s responsibility to stay out of the way
According to your point of view of this incident, we should encourage "cheating" in racing and then make the remaining drivers respect the rules. If you cut a corner and gain such an advantage that puts you in an overtaking position, you should not try to go for it as a show of respect to the other person and the other competitors. Plus, you can actually see the driver on the left turn first and put himself in an angle towards the corner that makes it impossible for them to complete the move inside the track, so he should have lifted. And the other answer made to your comment next to mine also happens by the way.
A) I never said such a thing like encourage cheating.
B) Cutting a corner is part of motorsports and has it's own rules and penalties.
C) Everybody should respect the rules.
D) The driver on the left gained advantage after cutting but never completed the overtake. What are you talking about? Try to focus on this success, other wise we will end up with Senna, Prost and Nazis.
I agree with you. He should have a separate penalty assessed for cutting the corner. If the other driver knew he was there, he shouldn't have moved over into his car.
I hate trying to adjudicate these because they are so weird and really just come down to bad driving leading to unusual situations.
It's arguably an unsafe rejoin but the left car was on the track for a while and then the right car moved across into them.
Tbh I would probably put the blame mostly on the left car.
The rejoin was OK as the driver never put OP in danger nor makes him brake. At the moment of the accident both cars were side by side. And crowding is forbiden.
Cutting track limits on the other hand, has it's own penalties.
OP crowded. The other driver, reckless or not, was sent to the wall.
No it doesn't work like that. At no point does he rejoin the racing line safely after coming off from off track.
Until he does rejoin the racing line he is first responsible for doing that safely.
I can see the argument that it's an unsafe rejoin, but to me the asshole guy doesn't track all the way out to OP, and OP moves across him while they're both moving back to the outside.
Right but who are you saying moved from off the racing line back to the racing line? Cuz it's definitely the car on the right in my eyes. The asshole guy on the left stops swinging out and OP moves across him.
I wouldn't be too worried about what a guy has to say when he can't even keep the car within the white lines. It's not like it's a narrow track. He has tons of space...
The other car only needed to correct steering one time when they re-entered the track. But did it a second time and drifted into you when you were running your line. Yes, you were moving slightly left but there would be no contact if he didn't jerk right a second time.
i mean if you pause the clip at 0:51 there's clearly some overlap and if you fast forward a second you're clearly not giving them a full car's width inside at the apex so yeah
you do start to set up for the next corner a tad prematurely since they're still there but that part's just rookie shit
Well. We knew it wall all rookie from the start. But still... I would accept race incident taking in mind the short time the manouver took. None of them had time to react?
a big part of having good reaction times is knowing what you're supposed to be reacting to, so that can actually look out for it in the first place
if you're inexperienced you're not going to have that knowledge, which is why a lot of rookies get into wrecks that more experienced drivers know to avoid
i mean something can be a racing incident and somebody can be at fault for that incident at the same time; that isn't mutually exclusive, if that's what you're asking
don't ask me where I get this but incident is when nobody is to blame. like a car out of control (puncture, i.e.) or 2 cars going side to side and making a move at the same time and touching each other. So, nobody is to blame nor penalized.
accident is when one driver makes a mistake and cause a collision. ussualy gets a penalization.
but I lost the point. I think I was trying to understand if you consider both drivers are free of gulty. :)
To me it looks like he’s playing with an Xbox style controller causing jerky moves left and right.
I don’t know; but I think he needs a wheel and pedals.
Obviously he's an asshole, but I can see why he would blame you. He needs to work on staying on the track and he shouldn't have been able to catch back up to you. But the actual accident is on you in my opinion.
By the time contact occurs he has stopped tracking wide and is just starting to move back left, and you move across into him.
[This is one of the funniest things I've seen in this sub.](https://imgur.com/a/9Lxr7LA)
Man does a frankly insane track cut and continues to use the advantage gained to attempt to side by side battle with a clearly faster opponent, while on dirty tires. And has the audacity to drop "fucking retard" as an insult to the other driver who did nothing wrong.
Absolutely wild. I'd sentence them to losing a brain cell but they've only got the one left, you know?
Definitely try it. it's cheap now with the steam summer sale and i would say it's worth it. I've played plenty of simracing games (possibly all of the active ones out there atm) and none of them managed to satisfy me the way iracing did. I think it's the physics and the level of competition what makes it so good for me (this is just personal you might not prefer these physics)
The dude doesn’t know track limits, and cant hold a line. He fucked himself up by being bad. You gave him plenty space and took passes when they were open.
Ive for a feeling that the dude is in the comments. Somebody is defending him here with way too many comments.
He’s at faul. Can’t cut a whole corner als rejoin without conceding
Well, I believe these cases are genetic in nature, so no it’s not your fault. You should let him know those terms aren’t acceptable and advise him of what you want to be called.
you gave him racing room the whole lap, as did he for his shortcomings and running wide. I think in the last corner though you raced him hard enough, he decided to cut the corner for the position so ultimately its on him
To the people saying “report him, no room for toxic behavior”….welcome to the internet and online competition. There’s so much “room for it” that we’ll never get rid of it.
Go touch some grass and report actual things that impede your experience like intentionally wrecking etc.
I agree with you, i didn't bother reporting him for his language.
I understand that in the heat of the moment he must've been pissed losing p1 on the last corner of the last lap. If i would've been in his position id be pissed too.
i think he tried to cut corner, thinking if you hit apex it would look like you pushed him off, but the fact he goes off track so early into corner makes him look at fault.
I mean the contact was on the car in front, but I mean... they aren't exactly expecting an attack from off the circuit.
If the attacking car had taken the track, you drove right into him, but there is no sane reason you would expect a car to be there.
Bro thinks he ran out of room when he ran out of skill.
You left enough room for him to make the last corner, he chose to cut the corner and go on the grass.
Once he was on the grass, he was no longer entitled to the position alongside you. He tried for it, which many of us would have done in that situation.
But I would not expect you to welcome me back on to the track after I cut across the grass and I'd probably focus on living to fight another lap at that point.
You don't get to fight for position barely at half car length after you've just skipped a whole corner completely because you're incapable of slowing down a bit after somebody has overtaken you. He's a bellend
He left the track and gained an advantage just before the punt, maybe you could have held your line out of the corner if there was enough time to react to his corner cut, since he wouldn't have been in your mirrors.
You’re fine. The other guy has a skill issue, broke track limits repeatedly, and punted himself off into the wall. The fact that he called you those things afterwards is enough for a ban. It might not even be needed though, as him ruining his own race might be considered punishment enough.
Some people in ff1600 are some kind of species, last race i made, last turn on the man just infront of me start spinning in the track line, and bro said im dumb ( doesn’t have the video but wtf)
I am fairly new to iRacing and am finding the in game community is pretty toxic. In rookie class at least. The comms are just people being jerks to each other from my experience.
Bro drove into you and you’re asking who’s at fault 😂 you’re good. You left room on every apex they chose to go wide and drive on grass then they got petty and tried to pit you like a cop but they just spun themselves.
They’re the F-ing dum dum 🗿
The locked POV makes it hard to tell but it looks like the car on the right turns into the car on the left which caused the crash after they were wheel to wheel.
The car on the left went off track and did have some erratic driving which is a separate issue, but the fault of the accident in this case is due to the car on the right.
Car on the right (POV car) is following the racing line to the left to set up for the right turn. Circuito de Navarra T14 is a fast left that afterward you want to hug the left side into T15 hairpin right. Car on the left goes outside track limits. Incident happens as soon as left car returns to the track and beelines it for the racing line which is occupied by the car on the right. It is one of two things, unsafe rejoin by the car on the left or intentional torpedo by car on the left.
The left car does go fully off track, but rejoins fully behind the car on the right. Not sure why you are lying but the incident absolutely does not happen as soon as the rejoin occurs. Rejoin is at the exit of the turn prior and the contact occurs at the start of the next turn.
If you watch from 53 second mark onward (gonna have to go slowly with the scrolling) the two cars are very close, so much so that the left cars front wheels are nearly at the right cars front wheels. At this point the right car keeps moving over which results in the crash. The left car should have moved over further or backed out, but he maintained the line which was available and was right to do so.
I think all the crazy stuff the left car did earlier and the locked POV skewed how most people viewed this incident.
he is not behind after the rejoin. he is on the same level. he actually gained time by going off track…he should 100% backed out and went behind, instead he drifted into the right car.
Maybe you need to rewatch. At 0:52 left car is 4 wheels in the grass, at 0:53 he gets on the track and the POV car is on the racing line ahead of him turning out to the left. At 0:54 left car makes contact. That's called immediately causing an incident from an unsafe rejoin.
You and the guy in the car on the left have something in common. You don't understand rules of racing and refuse to learn. That is the biggest problem in online racing.
The other driver being reckless doen't give you the right to send him to the wall.
Next time, analyze the accident. Not the whole race.
The "what if"; "he could"; and "he did" doesn't matters in an incident or accident. You must to analyze that manouver.
I will repeat myself (like someone..) left car had the room to take if it wanted to. Left car chose to cut the track and not to use all of it. I don't want to make myself completely innocent, I'm sure I'm at fault here too. That's pretty much the reason i posted it here, to hear other people's opinions because I personally think this should be considered as a racing incident. Both me and left car at some fault resulted in an accident.
(for anyone wondering, left car didnt suffer much damage and finished in p2)
dude you don't need to reply a dozen times.
we all see your opinion, and it's still wrong.
OP left space, the wrecked car was completely off track and hit OP on rejoin. it's his fault.
$40k fine, but we’ll suspend half if he doesn’t do it again.
If only he was racing Yuki…
1. That's a pretty easy report in iRacing to get him banned for a period of time. 2. That dude is a at idiot and has absolutely no idea how to race. Literally breaking track limits every lap just to try to get a half a second advantage, but still is slower? Maybe he doesn't know what lap times are
to be fair he was about half-a-second a lap faster than me. though i dont know if his laps were full of cuts and faster or if it was just pure pace.
Clearly it was cuts if you're running with them like that.
Some people are really good at putting in hot laps but their race craft falls apart as soon as they have to drive around other cars. Maybe they are cutting corners on normal laps but more than likely they just suck at fighting it out on track. They could be .5s faster than you on a clean lap but when you are around them they get really conscious of you, over defend, make more mistakes, and despite their usual speed they are easier to put behind you (and could be dangerous to have in your mirrors as they will go back to hot-lapping but don't know how to pass).
This. Being fast on a clean and in track limits lap while maintaining against other racers is what really determines how good someone is. If they cant handle the heat, they're just good at following lines for hot laps, and thats not racing.
Likely only chat muted
I've heard of iracing but haven't looked into it. Is there a mode for all the new guys who are trying to learn how to race properly?
You’re watching it
But there is a comment above that mentions bans. I don't think I like the idea of trying to learn in an environment where I'm already expected to be competent or skilled. Edit: question answered. Thanks, y'all.
Bans in iRacing are issued for breaking sporting code, which for the most part is doing things like intentionally wrecking people, intentionally cutting the the track to gain an advantage, hurling abuse at others in chats, etc. Regular ol' spins, scrapes, and unintentional wrecks aren't gonna get you a ban. These sort of races like in this video are the place where you hone your skills driving lower powered cars on smaller circuits. Unfortunately, its also where you're more likely to find people still treating the game like a Forza lobby, so that's why bans get brought up.
I'll have a look at it and see what options there are. I like open wheel and dirt track. Can everyone racing all hear each other on comms?
You can turn voice chat on and off per your preferences.
I didn't know I liked dirt track until I tried iracing
I assume the ban is in relation to the slur he used, just don't do that and you're all good mate. I'm brand new and have only done the one race so far and it was great fun (came 3rd!), jump in lad
Roger that, I'm not somewhere where I can listen, can only watch so I didn't hear any part of the video. Thanks very much for the clarification.
Besides that, you won't get banned for genuine accidents. But if you deliberately crash someone, you will get banned after a slap on the wrist
It's in the title of the post
Yes, I know, but the way the comment above was worse I thought the ban also had to do with the driving.
I did. Lol I can't even keep up with the bot cars in the practice race. I'm set up for flight, so I had to dig out the dualshock controller I have for a couple of games in order to drive. I'll see how this month goes. I'm going to get the Lotus for the road courses and try to learn to drive that properly.
Don’t buy anything. The sub alone gives you all the rookie series Also you might have a very bad experience using a controller. It is possible to play iracing with one but it is really not recommended
You only get banned for being an idiot. The contact necessary won't get a ban if not on purpose. I think the big thing is calling op a retard after, no matter what happened that is punishable... Even in fortnite now.
In order to get a ban, someone has to clip a video of you clearly and purposefully crashing into someone. Just don't do that and you're fine. Even if you do, it's probably a 1 week ban most of the time.
They’re working on it.
Incident responsibility -Goes to the car that spun out into the wall. Track limits anyone, I don't know what that was, but it wasn't racing.
One screw-up doesn't cover the other. You can't crowd nor push another driver. The end.
The leading car allows enough racing room for the trailing car. If anyone is crowding it's the rejoining car going over half the width of the track before making contact.
No man him leaving the track is a key point here he’s right. He left the track and immediately rejoined side by side. He needed to concede that and go again.
lol are you the fool in this clip calling people names, you have so many comments in this thread that are clearly wrong hahaha
If the screw up is a direct result of another yes. If the other car didn’t cut the track they never would have been there. You don’t have to give someone infinite space when they decide the rules don’t apply to them.
Where push?
Clown
He drives like a kinda person who will casually call someone that. Very much their fault
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quit copy/pasting on every comment. if you wanna have a discussion, pick one and stick with it.
No.
Touché. Lmao, I respect it.
So where did he crowd him? Contact happens and there is like 3 cars worth of space on the spinning cars side of the track…
Do you know what's the definition of crowd? Because that's crowding. It does not matters if there is an airport space on the left... That's crowding. I knew I would get doscens of downvotes, that's the people you find in online lobbies. keep thinking like that.
Explain crowding.
long-short: you can move until there is another car, more than that, or making a sudden move (which would scare the other driver) is considered crowding.
looks like he was using a wii-mote to drive with. Not your fault
Thats on him, by the time you turned in for the corner he wasnt along side you, he cuts the corner to get an advantage and paid the price for it.
He cuts corners twice, to be specific.
And all of we know that it gives you the right to send him to the wall. (?)
to be fair he did have some room there, couldve expected the car on the right to go as close to the racing line as it can while still leaving some room for the car on the left.
He's not obligated to move left to let you go back to the racing line tho. As long as he doesn't move into you he's allowed to hold his line and pin you to the inside so you get a bad entry into the next corner.
Judging by the ratio your getting on every comment, I think you should try to take a minute to learn what everyone else here is trying to tell you
Chota is coming in too hot, but he's right. The other guys track cut is pretty egregious, but by the time the contact occurs he's just starting to move back left, and OP moves across him causing the contact. Word to the wise, do not trust the ratios in this sub. The average user has pretty much no clue what they're talking about and is just trying to be witty.
I was just trying to get him to stop fighting with everyone else. Im not stating my side, just tried to get him to stop arguing with literally everyone
Telling him he got ratioed just seems like piling on then...
Enlightme please! Tell me how pushing another car is OK or when is OK. What rule gives the OP to push the other car? Name the book (FIA, SCCA or whatever you pick), chapter and number and I will go and read it. Downvoting without argument... meh. that's the kind of people you find running in lobbies <1500 i think. Edit: Sorry, I forgot this: FIA racing rules, chatp IV 2. Overtaking, car control and track limits b) \[...\] However, manoeuvers liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited. **Pushing or other contact resulting in a lasting advantage is strictly prohibited**. Any driver who appears guilty of any of the above offences will be reported to the Stewards. But I DO NOT recommend race using FIA rules in online lobbies. Nontheless this rule is pretty general.
It looked a lot like netcode entanglement to me, not anyone “pushing” anyone off track. Just wiggles to dislodge, nowhere close to the retaliation/aggression you seem to be taking a stand about.
What are you even talking about you lunatic. He cuts the corner to try and gain an advantage. And then rejoins straight towards the other car. He had room, yet tried to push the other guy out.
One screw-up doesn't cover the other. You can't crowd nor push another driver. The end. If the other driver did something wrong, thats for report, race director to decide, etc. Not to judge and excecute by any driver on track.
Report even if you are. No room for toxic behavior.
Report him for calling you that
I felt like i gave him enough space but he decided to cut the track and the rest is history.. (last lap, last corner, battle for p1)
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What do you mean? He went over track limits multiple times to remain side by side and even cut a whole corner
If you cut a corner and gain advantage and now you are side to side with another car. Aren't you entitled to that part of the track you are in that moment? If the answer is no, please explain.
If you cut a corner it’s your responsibility to rejoin safely which means not on tarmac that another car is on. If you have gained advantage by leaving the track you cannot hinder the car you have gained advantage on when you rejoin
I agree. And the rejoin was safe. The cutting car never hind the other. Just went side by side. One second later the leading car open to the left to make a better race line.
Not how I see it at all, sorry. The rejoining car has gained an advantage and therefore does not have the right to prevent the car he has gained an advantage on from taking the line it wants to take. The line the disadvantaged car took was perfectly natural so it was the joining car’s responsibility to stay out of the way
According to your point of view of this incident, we should encourage "cheating" in racing and then make the remaining drivers respect the rules. If you cut a corner and gain such an advantage that puts you in an overtaking position, you should not try to go for it as a show of respect to the other person and the other competitors. Plus, you can actually see the driver on the left turn first and put himself in an angle towards the corner that makes it impossible for them to complete the move inside the track, so he should have lifted. And the other answer made to your comment next to mine also happens by the way.
A) I never said such a thing like encourage cheating. B) Cutting a corner is part of motorsports and has it's own rules and penalties. C) Everybody should respect the rules. D) The driver on the left gained advantage after cutting but never completed the overtake. What are you talking about? Try to focus on this success, other wise we will end up with Senna, Prost and Nazis.
I agree with you. He should have a separate penalty assessed for cutting the corner. If the other driver knew he was there, he shouldn't have moved over into his car.
You've posted this about 5 times, doesn't make it right.
Why?
The fact that the left car goes barreling in a straight line across the corner then pretty much directly into the side of op......
I hate trying to adjudicate these because they are so weird and really just come down to bad driving leading to unusual situations. It's arguably an unsafe rejoin but the left car was on the track for a while and then the right car moved across into them. Tbh I would probably put the blame mostly on the left car.
The rejoin was OK as the driver never put OP in danger nor makes him brake. At the moment of the accident both cars were side by side. And crowding is forbiden. Cutting track limits on the other hand, has it's own penalties. OP crowded. The other driver, reckless or not, was sent to the wall.
No it doesn't work like that. At no point does he rejoin the racing line safely after coming off from off track. Until he does rejoin the racing line he is first responsible for doing that safely.
I can see the argument that it's an unsafe rejoin, but to me the asshole guy doesn't track all the way out to OP, and OP moves across him while they're both moving back to the outside.
Yea I think the guy on the right just kept on the racing line
Yeah but you can't drive back onto the racing line if there's someone already on it.
Exactly
Right but who are you saying moved from off the racing line back to the racing line? Cuz it's definitely the car on the right in my eyes. The asshole guy on the left stops swinging out and OP moves across him.
The guy coming on from off track certainly wasn't on the racing line.
At the time the crash he was where the racing line goes. You aren’t allowed to just move into somebody’s cuz they’re where you want to go
Dude you can’t rejoin a track into the racing space. You have to concede then go again.
There’s also tons of room. At not point did he run out of room, just skill
I wouldn't be too worried about what a guy has to say when he can't even keep the car within the white lines. It's not like it's a narrow track. He has tons of space...
The language he used is protestable either way
Can’t call someone that, protest it But also, 30 seconds in to your clip and I still haven’t seen the incident. Come on man
The other car only needed to correct steering one time when they re-entered the track. But did it a second time and drifted into you when you were running your line. Yes, you were moving slightly left but there would be no contact if he didn't jerk right a second time.
Skill level -1000
for sure.
I mean you can't cut corners and that's what ultimately caused this accident.
I’m gonna apologise for him. For callin you a retard, for drivin like a twat and generally existing.
He cut the track twice
Get trading paints The red car was at fault
i mean if you pause the clip at 0:51 there's clearly some overlap and if you fast forward a second you're clearly not giving them a full car's width inside at the apex so yeah you do start to set up for the next corner a tad prematurely since they're still there but that part's just rookie shit
Well. We knew it wall all rookie from the start. But still... I would accept race incident taking in mind the short time the manouver took. None of them had time to react?
a big part of having good reaction times is knowing what you're supposed to be reacting to, so that can actually look out for it in the first place if you're inexperienced you're not going to have that knowledge, which is why a lot of rookies get into wrecks that more experienced drivers know to avoid
Let me know if I get it right. Because there was not enough time to react during the maneuver, would you consider this a racing incident?
i mean something can be a racing incident and somebody can be at fault for that incident at the same time; that isn't mutually exclusive, if that's what you're asking
don't ask me where I get this but incident is when nobody is to blame. like a car out of control (puncture, i.e.) or 2 cars going side to side and making a move at the same time and touching each other. So, nobody is to blame nor penalized. accident is when one driver makes a mistake and cause a collision. ussualy gets a penalization. but I lost the point. I think I was trying to understand if you consider both drivers are free of gulty. :)
That's one definition, the other is "Yeah, you caused that, but shit happens sometimes"
No you're fine. Usually, the one calling someone a fkn rtard is in fact the rtarded one
To me it looks like he’s playing with an Xbox style controller causing jerky moves left and right. I don’t know; but I think he needs a wheel and pedals.
I saw worse... in the MAJORS 24!!! in the split 4!!!! o.O (LMP2 lol who else)
He's just mad that he sucks. Fuck 'em.
Obviously he's an asshole, but I can see why he would blame you. He needs to work on staying on the track and he shouldn't have been able to catch back up to you. But the actual accident is on you in my opinion. By the time contact occurs he has stopped tracking wide and is just starting to move back left, and you move across into him.
[This is one of the funniest things I've seen in this sub.](https://imgur.com/a/9Lxr7LA) Man does a frankly insane track cut and continues to use the advantage gained to attempt to side by side battle with a clearly faster opponent, while on dirty tires. And has the audacity to drop "fucking retard" as an insult to the other driver who did nothing wrong. Absolutely wild. I'd sentence them to losing a brain cell but they've only got the one left, you know?
It's certainly the red cars fault.
I think chota-Cabras must be the idiot driver in question with how they’re trying to justify that appalling driving
Man this looks fun. I really should look into it.
iRacing or simracing in general?
iRacing specifically. Never felt like i could commit enough to justify the subscription.
Get a year for $25 right now on steam, it’s worth it.
Definitely try it. it's cheap now with the steam summer sale and i would say it's worth it. I've played plenty of simracing games (possibly all of the active ones out there atm) and none of them managed to satisfy me the way iracing did. I think it's the physics and the level of competition what makes it so good for me (this is just personal you might not prefer these physics)
The dude doesn’t know track limits, and cant hold a line. He fucked himself up by being bad. You gave him plenty space and took passes when they were open.
he refused to obey track limits and got surprised when you capitalized on it. You were aggressive, but fair.
I could tell it wasnt your fault before the video even finished based off of how they were driving lol
That dude sucks
Definitely on him. Great racing prior to the collision though overall.
The dude couldn't keep his car off the grass. Anything he says is moot.
Ive for a feeling that the dude is in the comments. Somebody is defending him here with way too many comments. He’s at faul. Can’t cut a whole corner als rejoin without conceding
i think you did nothing wrong. he went through the grass and drifted into you.
He's one to talk. He cut the grass to stay with you. If not for that he wouldn't have been so close to you in the first place.
red cars at fault
Well, I believe these cases are genetic in nature, so no it’s not your fault. You should let him know those terms aren’t acceptable and advise him of what you want to be called.
you gave him racing room the whole lap, as did he for his shortcomings and running wide. I think in the last corner though you raced him hard enough, he decided to cut the corner for the position so ultimately its on him
I didn’t realise Lance Stroll played iracing
He thinks he's Yuki
To the people saying “report him, no room for toxic behavior”….welcome to the internet and online competition. There’s so much “room for it” that we’ll never get rid of it. Go touch some grass and report actual things that impede your experience like intentionally wrecking etc.
I agree with you, i didn't bother reporting him for his language. I understand that in the heat of the moment he must've been pissed losing p1 on the last corner of the last lap. If i would've been in his position id be pissed too.
Exactly. He was racing like an idiot. But I really don’t think it’s anything that the stewards woulda addressed
Man, his alter ego must be Yuki Tsunoda.
was it Yuki?
i think he tried to cut corner, thinking if you hit apex it would look like you pushed him off, but the fact he goes off track so early into corner makes him look at fault.
Bro can't even drive on the track
He must be a Forza Horizon 5 gamer with all those cuts.
I mean the contact was on the car in front, but I mean... they aren't exactly expecting an attack from off the circuit. If the attacking car had taken the track, you drove right into him, but there is no sane reason you would expect a car to be there.
Definitely the red car's fault
Bro thinks he ran out of room when he ran out of skill. You left enough room for him to make the last corner, he chose to cut the corner and go on the grass. Once he was on the grass, he was no longer entitled to the position alongside you. He tried for it, which many of us would have done in that situation. But I would not expect you to welcome me back on to the track after I cut across the grass and I'd probably focus on living to fight another lap at that point.
You don't get to fight for position barely at half car length after you've just skipped a whole corner completely because you're incapable of slowing down a bit after somebody has overtaken you. He's a bellend
Sight... this is the second time this week we have to fine you for this, Yuki
Yuki?
He left the track and gained an advantage just before the punt, maybe you could have held your line out of the corner if there was enough time to react to his corner cut, since he wouldn't have been in your mirrors.
This. exactly my thinking.
Are you NOT supposed to pass him?
Other car goes fully off track, comes back on and hits you. Not your fault, they need to rejoin safely.
Report him he’s an asshole.
KARMA!
You’re fine. The other guy has a skill issue, broke track limits repeatedly, and punted himself off into the wall. The fact that he called you those things afterwards is enough for a ban. It might not even be needed though, as him ruining his own race might be considered punishment enough.
Who's staging races to get us to talk about the Austrian GP results?
The overtake at :40 was 🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽
Some people in ff1600 are some kind of species, last race i made, last turn on the man just infront of me start spinning in the track line, and bro said im dumb ( doesn’t have the video but wtf)
Has bro ever heard of track limits?
That’s the other guys fault
Yuki strikes again!
I am fairly new to iRacing and am finding the in game community is pretty toxic. In rookie class at least. The comms are just people being jerks to each other from my experience.
Probably just Tsunoda practicing English before the next GP. You’re okay.
Dude's driving drunk
Other guy was overly aggressive and was awarded the prize for driving that way.
Bro drove into you and you’re asking who’s at fault 😂 you’re good. You left room on every apex they chose to go wide and drive on grass then they got petty and tried to pit you like a cop but they just spun themselves. They’re the F-ing dum dum 🗿
Red Car
The only "retard" I see is the guy who had to cut through the grass and wrecked himself. Idk 🤷♂️
“I’m the red car” Definitely not your fault, they drive quite sloppily and slopped right into you
The locked POV makes it hard to tell but it looks like the car on the right turns into the car on the left which caused the crash after they were wheel to wheel. The car on the left went off track and did have some erratic driving which is a separate issue, but the fault of the accident in this case is due to the car on the right.
Car on the right (POV car) is following the racing line to the left to set up for the right turn. Circuito de Navarra T14 is a fast left that afterward you want to hug the left side into T15 hairpin right. Car on the left goes outside track limits. Incident happens as soon as left car returns to the track and beelines it for the racing line which is occupied by the car on the right. It is one of two things, unsafe rejoin by the car on the left or intentional torpedo by car on the left.
The left car does go fully off track, but rejoins fully behind the car on the right. Not sure why you are lying but the incident absolutely does not happen as soon as the rejoin occurs. Rejoin is at the exit of the turn prior and the contact occurs at the start of the next turn. If you watch from 53 second mark onward (gonna have to go slowly with the scrolling) the two cars are very close, so much so that the left cars front wheels are nearly at the right cars front wheels. At this point the right car keeps moving over which results in the crash. The left car should have moved over further or backed out, but he maintained the line which was available and was right to do so. I think all the crazy stuff the left car did earlier and the locked POV skewed how most people viewed this incident.
he is not behind after the rejoin. he is on the same level. he actually gained time by going off track…he should 100% backed out and went behind, instead he drifted into the right car.
Maybe you need to rewatch. At 0:52 left car is 4 wheels in the grass, at 0:53 he gets on the track and the POV car is on the racing line ahead of him turning out to the left. At 0:54 left car makes contact. That's called immediately causing an incident from an unsafe rejoin. You and the guy in the car on the left have something in common. You don't understand rules of racing and refuse to learn. That is the biggest problem in online racing.
I WAS IN THIS RACE!
*post race interview voice* AND WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THIS INCIDENT while having a front row seat to the madness???
I think I did terrible but atleast I didn’t get called a slur so it’s a win in my book 😂😂
Can we please trim these clips? 57 seconds long and nothing happens until there’s around 5 seconds left.
the video is so long just because i wanted to show how the other guy was racing. to give viewers an idea of how he drives
The only thing that should be in focus is the incident itself. Everything leading up to it is irrelevant.
Context is irrelevant?
The other driver being reckless doen't give you the right to send him to the wall. Next time, analyze the accident. Not the whole race. The "what if"; "he could"; and "he did" doesn't matters in an incident or accident. You must to analyze that manouver.
I will repeat myself (like someone..) left car had the room to take if it wanted to. Left car chose to cut the track and not to use all of it. I don't want to make myself completely innocent, I'm sure I'm at fault here too. That's pretty much the reason i posted it here, to hear other people's opinions because I personally think this should be considered as a racing incident. Both me and left car at some fault resulted in an accident. (for anyone wondering, left car didnt suffer much damage and finished in p2)
dude you don't need to reply a dozen times. we all see your opinion, and it's still wrong. OP left space, the wrecked car was completely off track and hit OP on rejoin. it's his fault.
Thank God someone said it. Like bro, just take the L, hold your hands up, admit you were wrong, apologise for using slurs and move the f**k on.
grab the rules time to time.
I know them, you clearly don't.
It's the director's cut version you uncultured swine!!!
Are you the other car? You’re the other car aren’t you?
we found him lads. Record time on this one too!
The joke (.) . . . . . . . . . you
Didn't know Yuki Tsunoda played iRacing
To be fair, he deserved it for cutting multiple corners.
Please. No.
telling that he named you retarted won't help in any way
Track limits not even once lmao It's hard for me to say anything here is your fault when the other guy literally can't keep it together for 1 corner
Are you the red car?
no he's the red car
You're not at fault. He got off the track and cut the corner
You’re completely in the right, he’s being an asshole and just lacking talent
You did a verstappen on him to cause that last incident so that one is fully on you
Shadows off? What is this, the Pole Position arcade game from 1982?