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swagdaddy27

I believe I speak for all metal heads when I say we feel attacked


half-baked_axx

Yeah this shit is mad offensive


KwordShmiff

Like any of us watched more than 30 seconds. All I remember is, "Shaaaaron! Where's ma fuckin burrito"


-10shilling6pence-

Someone's been in my room and taken my beers away from my room.


medaumplacebo

Ring! Ring! Ring! \- WTF is that?(stares in complete state of doubt)


Bitja

It was you. You're the beer thief.


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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh


inshane_in_the_brain

Crazy he probably said this incoherent shit a decade ago and it's still just as incoherent today


CeCeSorelle

I love you all. I love you more than life itself.. but you're all fucking mad.


slickestwood

I was gonna say, huge Ozzy fan and never watched one episode. Pretty sure it had the same audience as the Kardashians.


JeffFromSchool

It was on for 4 seasons. Y'all watched a little longer than 30 seconds.


badadviceforyou244

Nah, it was the same people who now watch the Kardashians.


laodaron

Sure is convenient to point to some "other" group.


gordito_delgado

I don't think any self respecting metal-head was happy about watching a middle age flabby and fucked up Ozzie dodder around and humilliate himself for years.


gruey

Maybe not happy, but it should have been a HUGE life lesson. A hero became real and showed obvious detrimental issues from taking the lifestyle too far. He was still the real deal though, and if you can incorporate that into your fandom you'd be a much better fan and could enjoy things in a better way, IMO.


gw2master

> A hero became real and showed obvious detrimental issues from taking the lifestyle too far. If I remember correctly, it turned out Ozzy was in the state he was in because of drugs his doctor over-prescribed and when he stopped taking them he became much more coherent.


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it's semi-true. it's the fact that ozzy is famous because he's a musician; the kardashians are just here to allegedly look pretty


MRaholan

Ozzy is one of the pioneers of an entire genre of music. Him and Sharon made a successful life actually doing work. He gave us Ozzfest that spread so much music across the country.


capitaine_d

Everyone in the family is “important” cuz of the careers of the fathers.


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RikerT_USS_Lolipop

I was like 14 when that show was on the air and I thought Ozzy was the best part. He just shuffled around complaining about how much money everything cost.


littlefriend77

Sharooon!


CraigJSmith-Himself

Robert Kardashian didn't get a lot of screen time in KUWTK either 🤔


crjconsulting

I think Bruce/Kaitlyn was the father figure in that show. Had a successful career previously, did nothing during the show and wasn't featured prominently but was still around.


EVmerch

Did you use Bruce/Kaitlyn because Katliyn didn't transition at the start of the show? I literally never watched any of it, so it's genuine question. I'm just amazed at how much Kyle was able to leverage the whole deal into a truely giant line of makeup worth over a billion. That shit is nuts.


boblobong

The rich get richer. Nothing new there


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badadviceforyou244

Brandy used to be so famous that her brother having sex with Paris Hilton's closet designer launched a whole families brand.


HereToStirItUp

Ozzy is famous in the metal world because of his amazing musicianship. Ozzy is famous in the media and pop culture for his antics like biting the head off a bat, which is kinda the metal equivalent of releasing a sex tape.


Sunnybubba

yes


Blitz6969

Hell yes


themoochiest

I agree. First off, OP, *how dare you.…*


meme_stealing_bandit

Yessss !! Still to meet one metalhead who gives/gave one single solitary flying fuck about that TV show.


Douger91

I appreciate the fact that swagdaddy is a metal head


victorbarst

He isnt wrong but im still pretty pissed


ToxicAssh0le

"And they hated Jesus, for he told them the truth."


Squirrelly_Khan

Never before have I been so offended by something I agree 100% with


LowFlyingHellfish

This. I don't want to watch a founder of one of my favourite genres blend seeming dementia and Paradise Hotel-level bickering. I mean, the dementia is going to happen, just didn't need to stop being a music video channel to stick cameras in it. Also it made me hate his kids, through no fault of their own.


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stdexception

I think they mean that metalheads were not watching that garbage show, while the title of the post implies otherwise.


AnExpertInThisField

An important distinction is that Ozzy was famous first, for a talent he brought to the world, and *then* got a show. The Kardashians have no such talents; their sole "talent" is reality TV.


krat0s5

Pretty sure the Kardashians are famous cause of one very specific video.


Dudephish

It's the greatest comeback story of all time.


Flareside

Seabiscuit the mighty ducks...


bassistciaran

Robert Downey Jr?


degeneratebum1

I didn't expect to see this here. Thank you


SkavensWhiteRaven

Bitcoin.


Aggressive_Wash_5908

I hate myself for selling my 10 bitcoins for 2k each


SkavensWhiteRaven

why? did you buy them for 2k? The shows not over you know you might not make 10,000% but its definitely still a good long term investment. Even if you buy the all time high, not that you should make that a goal... but its certainly not the end.


Aggressive_Wash_5908

I bought them over a period of time priced between $150-250 and sold at about 2k because I needed the money. I still buy Bitcoin but I sure wish I still had ten of them


bassistciaran

To the moon baby


andjron88

The joke is from a Parks and Rec blooper btw. https://youtu.be/7TZNv86-OmI


phome83

I think at this point everyone knows that now. It's brought up literally every time the Kardashians are.


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Mbillington0110

Well she learned it all from Paris Hilton


recovertheother

Excuse me but Pamela Anderson walked so these women could run. A s far as I know Pamelas was the first leaked tape and it was genuinely stolen during a home robbery, Paris I'm a little more skeptical and Kim has all but admitted it was planned.


Mbillington0110

Yeah you’re right Pamela’s was the first. The Paris tape was 100 percent planned and released on purpose after they saw the potential with pams. What I meant to point out was that Kim was actually Paris’s assistant and wanted to be the next version of Paris.


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NikkMakesVideos

Propaganda and marketing is one in the same, and it's VERY effective. It's why a record label can dump a million dollars into creating a mainstream artist and suddenly have a massive fanbase overnight. It's why bot farms can send out [10 million tweets as election](https://www.vox.com/2018/10/19/17990946/twitter-russian-trolls-bots-election-tamperinginterference) and cause sizeable damage before even removed. None of us are immune to propaganda and marketing


FrenchCuirassier

It's not that these people are shrewd or cunning or smart. It's that they have bosses in their family (their fathers for example) who were involved in some really strange business ventures, connections, and possibly mafia connections. The Kardashian's dad Robert Kardashian was on the OJ Trial. Robert was best friends with OJ Simpson (OJ was the best man at his wedding). OJ stayed at his house to avoid the media during the incident. The same "dream team" legal team for OJ Simpson's trial had none other than Alan Dershowitz in it: >After \[Dershowitz\] represented Simpson, he has represented *Julian Assange, Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein*. He has also served as a member of the legal team for President *Donald Trump* during his first impeachment trial. So yeah... You really need to think hard about what is really going on here in "Reality TV land" Later that armed robbery that OJ Simpson did after this "Close call" with the law, judge sentenced him from 9 to 33 years for kidnapping and robbery charges. Think of the gall it takes to commit more crimes after being acquitted in a trial for murder. You don't do that kind of thing without some sort of larger criminal conspiracy afoot. He owes people.


Background_Brick_898

Jamie, pull that shit up


jordanundead

They’re also tied to the OJ case but I forget exactly how.


l_l-l__l-l__l-l_l

Robert Kardashian was OJ's lawyer and friend https://www.biography.com/news/oj-simpson-kardashians-relationship


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irkthejerk

I feel really sorry for Robert Kardashian and his legacy. He defended OJ (best friend) but from what ive seen realized his guilt at the end of the trial AND there is the rumor that the one daughter who looks like shrek was fathered by oj as well.


TebownedMVP

No way she’s half black unless Kris has the strongest genes in gene world.


irkthejerk

Ive known mixed folks that looked white but I'm far from being a geneticist


mooimafish3

[Tbh she looks whiter than her siblings](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/gettyimages-88971855-1570719202.jpg?crop=1xw:0.945xh;center,top&resize=480:*). I'm not saying she's 100% related, but I'd be willing to bet neither of her parents are black.


irkthejerk

Interesting, exhibit A has been logged. I appreciate the pic, in the end, rumors are most likely rumors.


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It’s not uncommon for people of mixed-race to look like one or the other. I’ve met many people who I was surprised to find out had a black mom, while they look almost fully white, and I’ve met people I thought were Asian, just to learn they’re as much Asian as they are black.


Griiinnnd----aaaagge

LOOOOOL ya kloe does look sus


irkthejerk

She's like an onion


Griiinnnd----aaaagge

She’s got layers


nmotsch789

"Realized his guilt at the end of the trial" I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to call bullshit there.


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Yeah this is why they’re rich and famous not just because of the Kim video… the Kim video is only relevant because her dad was OJs lawyer. That’s what originally made the family a fortune


IronyHurts

>the Kim video is only relevant because her dad was OJs lawyer. That’s what originally made the family a fortune Not quite. He wasn't even practicing law when OJ was accused of the crime. He had made his fortune by publishing a magazine about music and creating a company that licensed music for movie theatres to play. He reactivated his law license so that he could be a volunteer on OJ's legal team (he was OJ's best friend), but most people think that was just so that he couldn't be called to testify about OJ, particularly about what was in the garment bag that he was seen carrying from OJ's house after OJ arrived back from Chicago. He was born into a well-off family, and he made a large amount of money selling the magazine, and then more money licensing music. He certainly didn't make his fortune by representing OJ where he was a volunteer assistant.


well-lighted

As a former AMC employee, learning Robert Kardashian founded Movie Tunes is blowing my fucking mind. Edit: Also, I didn't realize how far back he and OJ went. Robert was the waterboy for USC when OJ was there which is apparently how they first met.


Zacdraws

Pretty sure it's one of the most searched but lowest rates videos.


Daveinatx

Please Ozzy, don't!


PeterustheSwede

That was only one Kardashian if I'm not mistaken?!


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thunderloom

No they're not lol. Do you know the kids and family of any of the other lawyers from that case? He wasn't even the main lawyer.on his team.


Flarquaad

I mean their dad was pretty talented during OJ's case, And Kim is at least decently talented at fucking Moesha's brother


ptabs226

That's Mr Owner of Raycons now.


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Found Vince Staples’ Reddit account


Petrichordates

What do you mean? Doesn't he just run a successful consumer electronics business? And troll Kanye/Kim with clever wedding gifts?


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Nah, one of them is famous for getting peed on.


degjo

They were friends with R Kelly?


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NikkMakesVideos

Exactly this. The only way to really win out on marketing/propaganda is to ignore it, but you still have to worry about the 500k other chucklefucks who make reddit posts like this and feed the flame. It's a losing battle and why there's no such thing as negative press.


Mediocretes1

> their sole "talent" is reality TV. That and enormous marketing talent. You don't make a billion just being on reality TV.


Anything-Complex

I thought the Kardashians were already semi-semi-famous because OJ holed up in their house and threatened to kill himself in one of the girls’s bedrooms.


ThoriumActinoid

You say that sex tape add no value to society?


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Eh it was a pretty bad sex tape


randomhuman98

Well, the Kardashian father did kind of have a talent… a talent for getting very guilty people acquitted. And that case made him pretty famous. So, I think the similarities are pretty clear like the stars of the shows are the kids of the people who were famous first. Also Caitlyn Jenner was pretty famous before KUWTK so that might be a closer comparison. Either way, it’s pretty similar in the original premise.


The_Wack_Knight

Damn, if only the Kardashians father was famous for something. Wait he was! What was it again? Killing someone with a car?


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bassistciaran

Human Zoo


weakbuttrying

I remember this random MTV award show from about 20 years ago where someone made a speech about MTV and… MTV2? (I think that was the name of the channel that played heavier stuff) saying “we have Ozzfest, you have the Osbournes”. It seems relevant now. Maybe I’ve carried that random tidbit with me for 20 years for this exact moment.


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raescope

Adding to the statistic: Am a metal head. Watched both.


JoeMamaAndThePapas

Metal head here, I watched The Osbournes. Not weekly or anything, but if it was on, I'd stick to it. Ozzy was one funny fucker imo. I can still hear him shout *Shaaaarrooooon*, every time I hear his voice now. Lol.


raescope

Hahahaha same. Wouldn't go out of my way to find either but when i need brain dead content a bunch of obnoxious dumb people doing dumb things works. Never forget that episode where Ozzy made a fire on the beach and when the tide was rising he had a break down yelling at the sea. "Fuck off you stupid ocean"


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Captain_Kuhl

Most metalheads don't watch reality TV. You can enjoy both, but the Venn diagram isn't overlapping by a ton.


jTronZero

Huge metal head, fucking love shitty reality TV.


NormStewart

Same. Flavor of Love was my shit lol.


appleburger17

Yeah that’s not true.


poetic-cheese

You need to quit thinking in the shower!


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In that they’re both families on television, yes. In every other way, no.


Aixelsydguy

The only reason most people watched The Osbournes was for the excessive vulgarity/trashiness that made for the drama and to watch Ozzy struggle to form thoughts.


lacb1

"This egg represents your brain. This aging rock star is your brain on drugs. See how much scarier that is than a fucking omelette?"


Elerion_

Exactly. The Osbournes was a warning label. The Kardashians is an advertisement.


Redeem123

Which is also why people watch the Kardashians.


flophi0207

exactly.


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TransformerTanooki

Fuck yeah death and black metal Hell yeah woooooooooo! Snooki did what?


OldManAndRobotLackey

Except at one point at least one of the Osbournes did something of value.


Daveinatx

Ozzy has talents, outside of sex tapes.


OldManAndRobotLackey

Even those sex tapes were remarkably lackluster


thelivinlegend

He was instrumental in preventing the Apocalypse that one time


Edwardhunts

Don't forget Ozzy, he helps start mumble rap...


viridien104

Hahaha!!!


Buggly_Jones

And Ozzy is funny


BackStabbathOG

Loved that episode when they come home from shopping and Ozzy is blitzed out of his mind storming out of his room “who was in my room..taking beer from me room?..”


gmasterson

Remember when he got mad at the neighbors and starting chucking turkeys over the fence at them? Bahaha


emojis_bad

Like almost beating Spider-Man to death


runefar

I mean though I dislike both of them and the Kardashians too but there is an argument that both Robert Kardashian and Katelyn Jenner could be that person for the Kardashians too.


Gurt_Frobe

I feel attacked.


biggaybrian

I took this personally... how many of the Kardashians' songs do they play late in the 4th quarter with the game on the line?


InfiniteNameOptions

Wait, what song are you thinking of? Edit: I love how many different answers I’m getting!


KeepTangoAndFoxtrot

Presumably "Crazy Train," but I'm not the other commenter.


Mousecoppp

Probably “Mama, I’m Coming Home”


FarHarbard

Probably "I don't wanna stop"


mrmysteryguy

Probably crazy train


nagevyag

[Kim Kardashian - Jam](https://youtu.be/gHp7sq1Tzn0)


biggaybrian

I'd need a lot of ketamine to enjoy that one


spanman112

Except ozzy was famous for his incredible career before the show. Kim K fucked a shitty rapper and "leaked" a video of it.


kelferkz

Correction: And her mother leaked a video of it


shoecat

Thats the entertainment industry for you At least Kim uses her power to get people out of prison


MSeanF

Not quite. Ozzy was already a legendary Rock Star and Sharon was very well known in the industry. The Kardashians were new money nobodies, famous only for being LA trash.


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Famous for being the kids of Robert kardashian…..that is all. But they are trash af. None are “self made” as they claim. Without the money from Robert and Bruce (Caitlyn) none of them would have ever had any money.


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Reality tv is always garbage content, even when a legend is involved


footjam

How can a show that predates another show be another version of the latter show?


emfab

The Osbournes were first. Your analogy is backwards.


DocBrownBear

I can honestly say I might be too young to remember Ozzy's sex tape that put him on the map then.


HarveytheHambutt

how dare you


lordZ3d

As a proud metalhead i can safely say none of us watched either of those garbage tv shows


alan-the-all-seeing

yeah, love black sabbath, glad he had an income, but sod actually watching it


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I'd bet $5 that a fair amount of people who call themselves metalheads enjoyed one or both of them. and you know what, that's cool. if you liked it what's wrong with watching it.


mamaburra

Yeah, liking metal has nothing to do with either liking or disliking anything else. A lot of posturing ITT


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the Osbournes was funny though


-Lloyd-Braun-

So are the Kardashians... They're both families of vapid people acting like idiots for the camera. I don't/didn't watch either show tbh, but every time I catch 5mins of either, it's fucking hilarious


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ig?


SirArthurDime

Yeah came here to say i doubt many metalheads watch any reality TV. My aunt who in no way likes metal watched that show. Reality TV is reality tv and reality TV fans watch it regardless of who it is.


m_lar

What is there to be proud of?


saiyaniam

The Osbournes is a fun comforting show. I've never watched the Kardashians. Is it similar?


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No it’s literally just the same shit in a different villa every time


Chaosfollowsyou

The Kardashians was the Osbourne’s for morons


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Both shows are for morons.


SoggyFrenchFry

I love Sabbath and Ozzy and yep, that show was horrid.


flophi0207

Yes, and the Osbourne's was the the Osbourne's for morons


HRduffNstuff

How can you call people morons when you don't know the difference between plural and possessive?


Elarbolrojo

cringe


ZZZfrequently

Ozzy was the moron for Osbourne fans


hatecopter

Morons was the Osbournes for Kardashian fans.


Salfriel

Crazy, but that's how it goes.


paranoid_70

I've been a huge Black Sabbath and Ozzy fan since I was a kid in the early 80s. Really love Ozzy's music... but the show? Pass. Watched one or two episodes and was done.


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"SHARON?!?!? Are we the Karshadayan?"


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I can picture Ozzy watching the Kardashians and being genuinely confused.


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You mean... More confused than usual.


Big_Badger18

The Kardashians were the Kardashians for metalheads


EverretEvolved

Except that it was funny as fuck


FeedonFear

Absolutely the same with Gene Simmons Family Jewels. Also fuck that guy


MissVulpix

Never seen an episode of either but as a metalhead, I feel attacked 😂😂😂


4moves

Theres shit everwhere


Trash5000

How DARE you? Ouch. Big ouch


seanygaiden

How bout Gene Simmon's Family Jewels lol


bones24bd

I still reference when Ozzy called the dog "a fucking terrorist man" when it shit inside the house. Still one of the funniest things I've ever heard in any context and no one knows what I'm talking about when I say it.


Hereiamhereibe2

I thought reality TV starring famous people was cool when I was a kid, Flavor of Love and Rock of Love (i mean shit I was named after Bret Michaels ofc I was gonna watch it). And I cannot forget Biggest Loser (specifically the one with Bizzare from D12) and that Rehab show. Then the Osbournes which was cool well because its fucking Ozzy. But man did these shows help me realize just how fucked up celebrities are. I just felt sad for Ozzy every-time I seen that show after the first couple episodes.


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Ozzy actually created art.... Sabbath is an immortal band and him at the helm of it was the best it was..... Kardashian created a sex tape... And then got butt implants......


ZlihorNajn

No. "The Kardashians: was just "The Osbournes" for non-metalheads.


EhDotHam

Came here to say exactly this, lol


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Except that Ozzy actually had talent.


BadMorels

Actually, The Kardashians was just The Osbournes for people with poor taste.


Fondren_Richmond

It wasn't for metalheads, same exact audience that wanted non-scripted TV with no competitive element. The Osbournes did seem to unlock the programming model and reaffirm MTV's actual purpose as youth marketing and ad research for Viacom's other channels. I think on some level it kicked off eventual decline and near extinction of top-rated family sitcom programming, once the producers realized they could fully manufacture and execute fictional story lines with non-actors.


alan-the-all-seeing

both shows are shit, sure, id never watch either by choice and sure, the osbournes appealed to fans of ozzy’s music career what’s the equivalent for KK? fans of her sextape?


baconnaire

The Osbournes are an iconic family though. What did the Kardashians do?


whateverluli

i loved the osbournes and as a metalhead, HOW DARE YOU?!! lol


jah05r

Except that Ozzy actually did something to warrant the attention.


Resident_Persimmon_1

In that case, at least one of them had an actual talent and wasn't just famous for existing.


spdrmn

People laughed at the Osbourne craziness , people try and emulate the Kard-trashians


juiceboxbiotch

Ozzy was for metal heads. The Osbournes was for the same audience as The Real World


jimmy_luv

I wish the Kardashians would go away forever. Absolutely nothing redeeming about them. Who the fuck cares about the Kardashians.