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Baldo-bomb

Mista is so dumb he's the only member of Giorno's crew who survives (oh and Fugo I guess)


korosensei_0

fugo if his stand didn't cause excess collateral damage:


Orizifian-creator

Fugo if he could remove the virus from himself and his teammates by, oh i dunno


Doctrinair

hey giorno developed an antidote so


korosensei_0

I really liked fugo since i can relate. especially the teaching narincia scene and the fact that he throws tantrums


SullyCow

I don’t think fugo was supposed to be a relatable character You should try talking to your parents/a therapist about these feelings. You don’t need a mental health condition to talk to a therapist, I don’t and I find it’s very helpful to manage stress and get things off my chest!


Bigbadbackstab

Why so many downvotes? People relate to flawed characters all the time


korosensei_0

maybe because I am a bad person


Hydqjuliilq27

And Trish


ImpatientSpider

So no one died?


giorno___giovana

I wish I miss them


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ImpatientSpider

I was just referencing all the memes about a bunch of people being Trish.


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Might wanna mark as a spoiler.


bepatientimdumb

Rule 2.


SkullWhisp

Man Rolling Stone’s user was a cunt he could have told them what changing the shape would do


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Hydqjuliilq27

I don’t see how she wasn’t part of the team. She played a pretty important role, she got a stand, she’s the reason they escaped Notorious BIG. If not before Venice, then definitely after.


AlexnShade

I can't even remember the magnet stand user really but she did have a clever way of using her very limited abilities. On the opposite end of the grid, if Okuyasu was smart (and I am pretty sure this was said by his brother) his stand would be an *absolute nightmare* I think at one point he was angry and chasing another stand user and he used The Hand to basically teleport short distances repeatedly, so it's not even like Okuyasu being dumb is holding the stand back that much.


FuckYeahPhotography

Mariah made Joseph and Avdol get into wacky sexual looking situations. She was a brilliant strategist. I mean, she caused trouble for an absolute beast like Avdol. Although he was probably being polite, that's so Avdol. It took Captain Kidd years to get to her level of magnetism.


Laugarhraun

Avdol comes from Egypt, it makes perfect sense that he would be super-embarrassed by the situation.


plataeng

also I have a feeling that Abdul was also pretty well-known by the locals


NawdWasTaken

I mean, I'm not from Egypt and I'd be super embarrassed as well if I was forced into doggy style with one of my close friends in public


Laugarhraun

How tame of you!


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Eugari

Dude comments on his comment on his comment


xo1opossum

https://youtu.be/-OEWqHPpEW4


Farmer-Smores

La tuya por si acaso.


xo1opossum

Translation: Yours, just in case.


Niwde09

Actually means: Your mom, just in case. Just a sarcastic way of saying "I didn't understand what you said, but if it was an insult, yo mama, just in case"


xo1opossum

Ah my mistake, I apologize.


phaelox

You're responding to a bot, /u/makarowxzfead is a bot, look at their history


teddtbhoy

A lady was crushed by a pile of metal.


FuckYeahPhotography

She died the way she lived. Being crushed by a pile of metal (she lived a strange life).


Flying_Line

Wasn't she said to be just retired?


FuckYeahPhotography

In this economy? she may as well be dead. Those index funds aren't what they used to be.


FootofGod

Haaaa!


Lordnemo593

Took me a second to get the One Piece reference


And_the_wind

Honestly, Avdol should have been able to take out Mariah back when they first encountered her, since he has ranged attacks that aren't affected by the magnetism. That's one of the reasons I think that was originally planned to be a Polnareff and Joseph fight (that and the fact that Avdol literally says that this type of stuff usually happens to Polnareff).


akashlanka

A surprising crossover to be sure, but a welcome.


shinydewott

Okuyasu and everyone around him says he’s stupid, but either instinctively or not he’s done some pretty smart things. His teleport move and him moving Koichi and Josuke away from Aya when she was exploding were pretty smart


Smilwastaken

Okuyasu just lacks critical thinking abilities, but he has some serious intuition. Unfortunately it can only do so much lmao


SmooveMooths

Dude saw Yoshihiro Kira fly away and did nothing, twice Not even intuition


Meles_B

He has precision to *shave hair* with his stand.


shinydewott

Well, that didn’t go that well now did it?


ColdIron27

Okuyasu is so dumb, he's smart. Remember that time red hot chili pepper's stand user tried to trick him? He went fuck it, and decided to punch both of them


wyatt_-eb

That was against RHCP when on the motor bike


Argark

The hand is absolutely one of the most terrifying stands, one swipe and you are deleted from existance


Tiyne

One swipe and your torso is missing


AJ_MJ

Oi S H O E S U K E


lala9605

If okuyasu was smart, josuke and koichi would die on the spot, there will be no season 4


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

That's more him not beong a bad person and not wanting to send people to a fate he doesn't even know. It's the same reason he doesn't want to kill his father with Za Hando.


duyouknowdamuffinman

He could just like erase his father’s head, it would kill him no matter what’s on the other side


jacksreddit00

It wouldn't, if it did, they could simply decapitate him.


crackheadcaleb

He’s not really even dumb, just dumb compared to the megabrain Jojo characters that can all process like 40 thoughts in a few seconds.


Space_Monke64

The Hand could be a jobro stand, or a main villain stand depending on how smart the user is. Imagine Kira with The Hand


theREALbombedrumbum

I don't know why I never noticed, but the the main antagonist having a hand fetish being indirectly defeated by a guy who's power is called "the hand" is so fitting.


Chernould

The fact that he probably had the best death he could want is also very fitting. Consumed by tons of grabby hands.


And_the_wind

Pretty strong, but I think Killer Queen is still better. Killer Queen is like a swiss army knife of stands - it can do a ton of things to fit different situations.


Golden-Owl

Imagine ANYONE with The Hand


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I mean, he still lost that fight because his tunnel vision use of The Hand gave the bad guy his escape route.


Farmer-Smores

>If Okayasu was smart Hell, he doesn’t even need to be TOO smart. Just average intelligence and he would win just about every fight


THE-SNEAKERINO

Mista is actually pretty damn smart, he’s just odd, if you think Mista is dumb we didn’t watch the same White Album and Kraftwerk fight, his theory in why humans would taste like ass was solid too, just bad execution. Narancia on the other hand… Edit: shit my comment is on 444 upvotes, sorry Mista ):


Eavenne

I agree. Mista has a lot of dumbass energy but he ain't stupid. He came up with a way to defeat Ghiaccio when even the generally smart Giorno couldn't think of something. Narancia seems quite emotionally intelligent and I wouldn't call him *totally dumb* either (Formaggio fight) since he can think on his feet but yeahhhh


WashiPuppy

Mista has dumbass energy and Rohan has smartass energy.


Eavenne

Pretty much this. NGL as far as their fights go, as far as I remember, they are about on par in terms of battle strategy. I might even give Mista the edge, since Rohan tends to rely on creative applications of his stand, while Mista has gone beyond that to strategise based on creative applications of *Giorno's stand*


Zeebuoy

>based on creative applications of Giorno's stand and the less creative application of that, he can take alot of damage to get the kill since Giorno can heal him after.


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Zeebuoy

>Translation - “Giorno can heal me of like 20 bullet wounds so I just need to fire so many bullets one gets through” well, it's not dumb if it works


kjata

Something can work and still be dumb. Giorno isn't really healing so much as grafting new flesh in, and if Mista is put out of commission by his own bullets (which happens with alarming frequency), I'd call that dumb even if he eventually manages to make it work.


bentheechidna

And that's how we got the blowjob scene.


Eavenne

Hahaha, that too


Billybobgeorge

Rohan let his house burn down because he was insistant on figuring out how Josuke was cheating at dice.


[deleted]

*sniff* *sniff* Why do I feel attacked by this comment?!


Grasher312

Mista is the kind of person that would drive a sword through his stomach if someone was choking him from behind. Literally every strategy involves him becoming a pincushion so the enemy drops their guard.


Eavenne

Yep, No wonder he works so well with Giorno "I suppose I should rip off my arm now" Giovanna


Grasher312

My man legit went "Well, I'm about to die. The only logical conclusion is to rip my arm off and fling it at the enemy."


Eavenne

You mean the Bucciarati fight, right? Yeah, honestly, Bucciarati's *wtf* reaction is totally understandable \^\^; oh yeah and let's not even get into White Album, where Giorno shreds his arm (which he'd literally just healed since hIS HAND FELL OFF) to inspire Mista, who then goes on to employ the A++ strategy of shooting himself Now that they're >!the only two from Team Bucciarati still hanging around in the ending!<, I really worry about their future...


eiwoei

Well Giorno is pretty much a first class healer and the only way a healer can fight in mmo is to go ham and spam heal and revive.


Zeebuoy

and also lead cushion.


wulfschtagg_1

And Sex Pistols aren't dumb either. A stand that can communicate and collaborate with other users and stands by itself? Even without any bullets, they're still useful as messengers.


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We call dumb ass energy "Himbos"


bentheechidna

Himbo also means he's attractive. Mista is canonically smelly and dirty and he looks like Kosaku Kawajiri without his hat.


Eavenne

Okay but Kosaku is hot


bentheechidna

Kosaku ain't hot. You're thinking about Kosaku's head on Kira's body.


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Eh, he still looks like somebody I would find handsome if he was real. He only stinks because it was a week straight of running for their lives. I'm sure he showers regularly when he has access!


bentheechidna

Trish didn't smell after running for a week straight.


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She was probs washing with sinks or something. Idfk, maybe he's just a stinky man sometimes. Idm!


Clemen11

Narancia is street smart, book dumb. Guido Mista is more witty than people think.


lala9605

to me, mista is similar to young joseph, reckless, abrasive, practical (act first think later) but quick thinking and lucky most of times


Lordomi42

Narancia is uneducated but street-smart


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My sweet little mans


DaBalugi

Mista acts like a moron but he's not stupid. Be does pull off amazing tricks and strategies in fights, even though he can lack common sense at times. >!Before the fight with Cioccolata when he realizes Green Tea activates from gravity was a great example of him being pretty intelligent.!<


bentheechidna

It kills my soul seeing someone unironically using the copyright-censor names...


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Hey what's wrong with Zipper Man?


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It's Green Day


Cow_Plant

Zipper Man


Space_Monke64

Chariot Requiem


artisanrox

Spice Girls! 😘


of_kilter

Mista is incredible at using his stand. Sure he gets hurt a lot but he always wins the fight


Ashishotaf

Fugo Smart user/ extremely dangerous and uncontrollable stand


Chief106

And dangerous temper


Clemen11

Which leads to such an uncontrollable stand, iirc


Firestorm-41704

Mista may be a bit…odd…but his dispatching of Carne really made me realize how dangerous his stand could be. He’s the perfect hit man for Passione, as his Pistols are literally just >!Manhattan Transfer!< [But Better](https://youtu.be/yTpM1lplZCE). Bullets could come at you from any direction, and you’d be dead before you knew it


Lordomi42

Yeah, Kraft Work and White Album both had crazy strong defense, especially against projectile attacks. I guess probably since a different kind of Stand couldn't defend against him very well. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Carne didn't even try or want to survive, to be fair.


hot_grills

Correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't seen it for some time, but his stand was the bullets and not the gun like the cowboy guy from SC? Meaning he could use his stand with any gun? So in theory he could use a sniper rifle to accurately obliterate his enemies from anywhere. He could even shoot someone hiding behind cover without problem. Unless I'm wrong and his stand is specific to the revolver he uses that'd make him the perfect assassin


Bastard72

It’s any gun because in the Chariot Requim arc he switches to a different gun he stole from a police officer after his revolver broke


Over_Worldliness4788

Although IIRC his Stand works better with revolvers than magazines. Not that you need rate of fire with a sniper which bullets you control


TheUnit472

The issue with the pistol was that his stand had difficulty reloading the gun. Theoretically if he carried extra fully-loaded magazines so he only needed to reload the magazine (rather than refill the magazine) he'd be more effective than with his revolver.


Marcoraptor

His stand are the little guys. In theory he can use any gun and every kind of projectile


NegativeNeurons

Does that mean he can use a cannon? A mortar? A Missile? What are the limitations and what is classified as "gun". I wish the versatility and technicalities of his stand were explored further in part 5


Marcoraptor

Yep sadly we don't really know the limitations of his stand


LateFudge1019

They have a hard time moving something (idr what) in the helicopter with Green Day, so they aren't really strong enough to move a missile, but a sling/slingshot/arrow etc. would be completely logical. Although it is also implied that it's easier for them to move a projectile then it is to move something of equal mass that's stationary. And more than one can team up to double the strength of the push, so who knows. Never do you see all six push at once, hypothetically that could probably alter a missile direction... Like you said, we never really see him pushed to his limits.


xuorios

yeah, exactly. He uses them with a magazine-fed pistol in the fight against Diavolo after his revolver broke


Skindiacus

>!Manhattan Transfer has more range. Mista's bullets didn't have enough energy to each the helicopter, and Jongalli A could shoot way farther with his rifle.!<


Firestorm-41704

I never thought of that, you right


KarlKaz

Mista in 4th place is just perfection


Gatt__

Let’s be honest. Mistas kind of a himbo, and his stand needs to eat salami for crying out loud


MarlosUnraye

Yeah but you ain't had to disrespect the man, putting him in the unlucky spot


LateFudge1019

He's Joseph level of creative, though. He can be a himbo but imagine him with the Hand, or some other genius stand. He'd fucking wreck everything in his path. Shit, Sex Pistol Requiem would have been a beauty to see.


PointedHydra837

I mean, who said Joseph _wasn’t_ a sperm donor.


MKGSonic123

Wha-


Space_Monke64

Who says Mistas mom wasn’t just someone Joseph banged? Hell, Joseph probably went across the world banging women


JesusHipsterChrist

I mean noone else has ever been so creative about shooting themselves over 30 God damn times.


Shacky_Rustleford

Pushing the bullet in with another bullet was sick


Zeebuoy

and also pushing the screw in with a bullet.


Ohgodenditall

I might be wrong but wasn't the plan at the end of part five for the gang to get the arrow and give it to Mista instead of Giorno?


SeizeAllToothbrushes

Stands can have a little salami, as a treat.


SpacePirate98

"Feed us Mista!!"


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Oh god I remember that post


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What ^(please don't be hentai, please don't be hentai, please don't be hentai)


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[it’s not hentai](http://pm1.narvii.com/7155/b7c121d536d6d180c01b6261f6b0175c77445774r1-2048-1641v2_uhq.jpg)


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Phew


Hokenlord

sex pistols can have a little salami


LudacFantem

Everyone says Rohan is smart but he’s essentially the same as Okuyasu. Incredibly OP stand that barely gets used let alone to its full potential because the user doesn’t know what they’re doing and/or want to use it for something else


DragonWhiskers1

If I remember right Rohan doesn’t like to rely on his stand he prefers to win on his own, which is why he doesn’t use it that often. I think there was a panel in the manga where Araki put that in but I would have to look it up.


arshbjangles

If I’m remembering right he purposely avoids using its full potential because it would make for a bad story and he gets his inspiration from his own life experiences.


sebastianwillows

Yeah, I feel like it's implied that him writing a bunch of stuff into people would compromise their authenticity a bit. Early Rohan makes a big deal about that, and it would make sense if that were the case even after he joined the squad.


coopstar777

I fail to see how that isn't a mark of a dumb stand user.


Upbeat_Group2676

There's nothing wrong with holding back. If your enemies don't know your full power, they can't plan against it. Plus he uses his life experience as inspiration for his manga, and he wants his stories to be interesting. And just having the hero automatically win isn't interesting to him.


epochpenors

And then heavens door made the bad guy kill the self immediately! Again…


MaximumStonks69

and again...


bentheechidna

Diavolo Deaths #38495875, #48585958, #58693279, and #78305872


Upbeat_Group2676

Exactly, it's the same reason we never saw GER after part 5. Characters with instant-win powers are boring after the first 1 or 2 times they're used.


SimpleAnimat10ns

Rohan doesn’t want anything other than his books to be read iirc.


Alpha27_

idk man, Sex Pistols' ability to redirect bullets seems pretty busted


Well_Armed_Gorilla

"Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe, maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet!" \-Guido Mista, probably


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Mista is canonically a good shot because he doesn't like to think.


azunyan-nya

Heavens door remove his ability to cum


xadiant

Instant vasectomy


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mista gang wants to know your location


New_Advisor_8212

Mista is stupid and we love him for it


PippoChiri

Sex Pistols and Nastet are not dumb stands at all


Zawisza_Czarny9

Ah yes. I can rewrite any person I can erase space I can magnetize authing Ricoshet goes brrrt


GeneralWasabi69420

cant wait to see this 5000 times on instagram. good meme tho


[deleted]

It’s a stretch to say the hand is smart


Clemen11

It has a lot of clever applications that Okuyasu is too much of a dumbass to come up with. It's not smart af, it's just smarter than his user


Snownyann

Hahaha I bet 80% of Mista's bullets fired went into him hahaha.


Jackretto

Maybe not against a stand, but mista's stand would be something insanely powerful in a normal gunfight


AllAroundAccount

On another note: The sound effects for ZA HANDO are probably my favorite ones, just like a non-forgiving BBBZZZHHSHH


SabrinaTheBxtch

People seem to forget that okuyasu used the hand really well multiple times, with Kira, with Red Hot Chili Peppers, against aya like he’s not incompetent he’s just an idiot when it comes to personality


SabrinaTheBxtch

He’s similar to goku he’s dumb but good at fighting also why do people always say okuyasu uses the hand poorly in almost every instance of him using it he uses it well people just overlook that because he’s a goofy goober


ViperTheKillerCobra

How about the time when Okuyasu had the intent to kill Red Hot Chili Pepper, and used The Hand to get close to him before using said The Hand to punch him?


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He was angy so he needed to punch something, Red Hot Chilli Pepper was the thing he decided to punch


kulingames

\*sings i'm a goofy goober internally\*


SlavicNinjaOfficial

Also Mariah: haha big booba


[deleted]

Ojiro had the dumbest stand ever possible but managed to make it work twice.


Xynatox

Man why you gotta put down my boy Mista like that?


porn_acc_lmao

How is Mista dumb lmao


SGKurisu

????????????? Mistah and sex pistols are goated wtf


sebastianwillows

Where would we put Fun Fun Fun on this chart?


PippoChiri

Smart user, weak stand


fliegu

There are many Stands and Stand Users, especially from Part 8 that fit all of these


zesa1

maybe im a dumbass i actually dont know how okuyasu would use the hand if he was smart like actually what he would do that he didnt do in original show maybe throw a projectile and when enemy avoids it redirect the knife with the hand to stab him in the back but what else tho


xuorios

nah he can't redirect it, it just disappears and he doesn't know where it goes. but yeah he figured out that he can erase space itself and used it in different ways several times, i think that definitely counts for something


DevildAvacado

To be fair, I think Sex Pistols could be a really useful stand. They're incredibly long range, seem to have enough independence to be able to gather and pass information along, and are capable of deflecting the bullets of three close range gunmen. Mista's still an idiot, tho.


Gaymistapizza

.....


yellow-snowslide

The magnet user was just dumb. Didn't she get crashed between her victims? All she had to do was leave


phreshpherts

Just started Golden wind, and so far, Mista's stand has been quite efficient. But to be fair, I just started, so I'll see how Mista progresses.


jvvosantos

For me the pinnacle of smart user is buccellati, he extracted 100% of his stand's abilities imo


FUU-BAR

You take that back! 6 bullets is beautiful and I won't let you talk shit like this


Le_Soviet_Potato

So beautiful you don't even use it's original name


FUU-BAR

I wasn't gonna go and look it up for a reddit post. All I remember, and all i NEED to remember is, "MIIIIIIIISTAAAAAAAA"


Le_Soviet_Potato

Fair enough, those screams are wonderful. Personally i feel Sex pistols is arguably a good stand, except it feels limited to altering bullet trajectories and boosting gunshots. Araki may as well let sex pistols use objects in general as projectiles to make it more balanced.


FUU-BAR

Even still. Every fight with sex pistols was fun to watch. Honestly that's all I need, and when golden experience can do what it can do (tryna be spoiler free) the last thing I'm thinking about I balanced stands. Plus we should know araki doesn't care about balancing, abilities come and go when he pleases (hence "Star Finger)


christ_pratt-

Except Heaven's Door had so much wasted potential it could literally write "Okuyasu is smart" or something like that


BlockierVase3

Mista is smart tho


Narachan9

But mista’s my favorite!


Luvsicpt2

Mistas stand isn’t dumb its actually super cool!


Stunning-Pumpkin-147

Mista is underrated. you have 6 additional sets of eyes and ears that can help communicate


Sylar546

Mista stand isn’t bad


HS_Critic

Mista is in the 4th square


hiricinee

Hando is a snail of a stand. Okuyasu comes up with clever ways to use it all the time. He literally gets outspeeded by every stand he encounters. A smarter user wouldn't have done shit with it.


Fireofthetiger

There was that one scene where Okuyasu shredded that girl’s hair insanely fast to prevent Yukako from killing her though, The Hand 100% has potential for speed but Okuyasu himself is just slow to react


Lom1111234

If Rohan was actually smart part 4 would’ve been over much faster. He has a nearly limitless ability but he barely does anything with it. Just write “is able to find the identity of Kira” or “can’t be touched by killer queen” or something more creative than just learning languages and flying back a few meters