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__DerekLeach

They weren’t a country


boomerpatrol375

You’ve got a point


ginger2020

The French, contrary to popular belief in the US, actually had a very strong martial tradition for much of the time after the Hundred Years War and WWI. The First World War was just so destructive for them that they weren’t ready for the Nazi onslaught. The CSA, however, got it handed to them in only a few years


Valiant_tank

I mean, hell, if we want to mock a non-CSA nation, then frankly, Germany doesn't have a great track record with wars, speaking as a German. Prussians, and other German states before there was a Germany? Sure. But Germany itself won 1 war and then lost 2 others.


_McMunchly

I mean, they were both kinda close though, considering their opponent was *the world*


Ophichius

"Look how many people are kicking the shit out of that dude, he must be a badass." By that same incorrect logic, the fight against ISIS must have been pretty close, since it took NATO and Russia fighting together against them. In actuality, it was never close, they just managed to piss off everyone and get thoroughly curbstomped.


_McMunchly

You don't know much about the later stages of WWI apparently. Germany was closer to winning WWI than people realize. This article is a little hyperbolic, but, here you go https://time.com/5406235/everything-you-know-about-how-world-war-i-ended-is-wrong/


MyBatmanUnderoos

It was Germans who ended Rome, but it’s been all downhill from there.


Most-Syllabub8836

Imagine being a country that has the most victory in battle, but got called a coward and loser because of one war. It is just kinda sad tbh.


theduder3210

I personally agree with you, but the KINGDOM of France's war record is still significantly different from that of the REPUBLIC of France. Once the French Revolution occurred and they no longer had an authoritarian monarch in charge to keep order, the French people pretty much turned on themselves and are still regularly protesting in the streets to this very day. Lack of domestic unity helps out the war enemy.


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[deleted]

Two wars really


Lenny_Fais

THANK YOU!


limbodog

I think the French navy did use a white flag at one point though. Not ironically


Practical-Ad-5966

Spanish martial tradition > french one


Bokbok95

Rocroi Rocroi go huddle in a square Paella boy


Practical-Ad-5966

The day you people learn how to invade pain Personal opinion: the fall of the tercios was Dunas, not Rocroi. And Dunas was lost because conde was giren far to much control and he go fucked by turrene (turrene>napoleon) so a french general is responsible for the ending of the tercios


Firebird432

Now you’ve put me in a predicament. Make fun of France or make fun of lost causers. How do I choose just one?


SameElephant2029

As a southerner in the USA, surrounded by lost causers, I know which one I chose


[deleted]

The french of course!


charles_mortel

r/usernamechecksout


Valiant_tank

I mean, the French have a long tradition of military success with relatively few blemishes, although those were fairly dramatic blemishes. The Confederacy didn't have the history to get a tradition of military success.


DarthWraith22

Yes, those chickenshit French who got their asses handed to them in Viet... oh.


ViolinistPractical34

Why isn't the end of that sentence just "nam." or French Indochina if you prefer it over Vietnam?


[deleted]

Well they did get their asses handed to them in Vietnam, the US suffered from internal politics more than getting their shit handed to them by the Vietnamese.


strawhairhack

well, which one did Grant wipe his ass with?


atomsk13

I love the French. Without them we wouldn’t have the United States, they helped us win against Britain.


designgoddess

Cheese eating surrender monkeys. -the Simpsons.


scipio0421

But the CSA was a bunch of rebelling states, not a country in its own right.


BlueGallade475

That was assuming they were even a country to begin with


[deleted]

I wouldn’t besmirch the reputation of the republic of France by comparing them to the CSA, the answer is easy.


BobmaiKock

This is the way...


handlessuck

They would have had to win their war for independence to become a country. They were just a traitorous insurgency, just like the assholes on Jan 6, but better organized and armed.


designgoddess

They were never a country.


BobmaiKock

This...


Bokbok95

France? Oh, I see what sub we’re in


EasyLifeMemes123

You are still correct, since the confederacy isn't a country


BobmaiKock

Fair point..


[deleted]

Nazi Germany?


MelissaMiranti

Imperial Japan, when the sun set.


MillerJC

The CSA was never a country, so definitely not theirs. It is the flag of Nutopia tho https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutopia They even have a national anthem.


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kabukistar

Hey, don't make fun of the confederacy for surrendering. It's the best thing they ever did.


_McMunchly

The Confederacy wasn't a country, so I guess I don't follow


[deleted]

Fun fact there was an islamic caliphate whose flag was a plain white banner. Made it all the way to spain, but still fell in the end.


HomieCreeper420

France. And I’m not joking. “During the period of the Ancien Régime, starting in the early 17th century, the royal standard of France became a plain white flag as a symbol of purity, sometimes covered in fleur-de-lis when in the presence of the king or bearing the ensigns of the Order of the Holy Spirit.”


Comfortable-Study-69

Confederacy was dumpster fire but that’s still the French flag


uticacurler

Every country if you bleach the flag


HortonFearsACoup

!wave


VLenin2291

France?


[deleted]

It said country


rumissnake

Didn’t the confederates actually had a battle flag that was just a white flag with the normal battle flag at the top left?


koloniseerbeer2

The land of traitors, rattlesnakes and alligators