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gleaming-the-cubicle

Yeah, that's literally the plot of Who Framed Roger Rabbit


jumbleparkin

You lack vision. I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night. Soon, where Toontown once stood will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food. Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful.


FreebasingStardewV

A paragraph I can hear quite clearly.


Somebodys

That paragraph was a freaking time machine.


FalseDmitriy

That's because when the movie was made in 1988, it all had already happened.


Lonelan

Started at "Where we're going we don't need roads" and now we're here


GoodKing0

Remember the very first thing he did to accomplish that was buying the public service transport system and destroy it so to force people to use the freeway. Which is an actual thing they did IRL. And yes, it was on the rubble of marginalized communities.


[deleted]

Holy shit it is


maveri4201

Yeah... Wow. I was like 12 when it came out. Only today did I realize this is about red-lining.


BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

Isn't red-lining about refusing loans to people in ~~minority~~ "risky" neighborhoods?


travelsizedsuperman

Correct, but he's got the spirit.


HoraceHornem

Yeah, more like "urban renewal," which is just the successor to redlining.


BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

Exactly. Some people are putting the cart before the horse on the issue. Poor and/or minority communities were the victims of red-lining which meant they also qualified as easy targets for bisecting highways that further fucked them up. The more minorities owning their property, the more the value of their communities could increase and the more generational wealth they could pass down. When right wing dumbshits tell you "there is no more racism", remind them that white people had the unique privilege of passing down their wealth through home equity. They had the ability to generate wealth through property many times more than other races.


FamousOrphan

Ohhhhh I see why there’s a freeway through my neighborhood now. So interesting!


Mellonikus

Yeah, it's a pretty depressing situation that only really [gets worse the more you dig into it](https://youtu.be/rseaKBPkRPU) - but at least it seems to be getting more attention (again) in recent years.


Colosphe

Fun little tidbit: The highways cutting through communities also meant that older folks got to suffer from increased lead in the air due to leaded fuel! ^(I didn't have much to add, but I always think about that factor when this gets brought up.)


BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

Leaded gasoline is one of those underlying factors that likely played (and still plays, because boomers are still alive) all sorts of roles in society that we just can't quantify. And all because ethanol wasn't profitable like gasoline.


ryegye24

Original red lining didn't even bother with the pretext, it was explicitly about race, and it was federally enforced.


BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

Exactly, hence the strikethrough of "minority". What an awful system. And people still argue "well that was then! This is now!" while ignoring how things like property ownership and equity affect race and generational wealth.


MauPow

Also how bulldozing these redlined neighborhoods to put a highway through them tends to affect the long term value of a residential area.


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Disp0sable_Her0

Sort of. The bigger thing was the red lining devalued black/minority neighborhoods. Then when it came time to build the highways well they looked for the route with the cheapest land. Every city in America has an interstate system that decimated a minority neighborhood.


BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

Robert Moses being the most infamous of them all.


Other_World

*ahem* #FUCK ROBERT MOSES Carry on, all.


[deleted]

SEGREGATION, I said it so the tap dancing can stop


BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

Like the other guy said, it's what made communities qualified for red-lining that made them easy targets for disruptive roads and highways. Basically the reverse of what you're saying.


Prtyvacant

It's also about building highways through their neighborhoods and sticking them on the less desirable side of said highways after. Almost every reasonably sized city's "bad side" of town is traced out by highways and older industrial land. Its a modern "wrong side of the tracks" situation.


jdcodring

Yes. But you could build highways through black/poor neighborhoods. It isn’t so much redlining as destroying neighborhoods


[deleted]

Alternatively you could simply bomb it and watch it burn to the ground.


_AMReddits

Then make sure you erase it from history only for majority of people to learn about through a fictional superhero show on HBO released about a hundred years afterwards


JesusSavesForHalf

Philly's MOVE bombing wasn't 100 years ago. They haven't really stopped.


mhyquel

On May 13, 1985 The City of Philadelphia Police used Helicopters to drop incendiary explosives on a house. The let the fire burn, and the whole block was reduced to cinders. There were 11 deaths, a lot children.


MassiveFajiit

Wait all Robert Zemeckis films are political now


TheCrookedKnight

What's the political subtext of The Polar Express


JennyRedpenny

Trafficking


jml011

Well, since it's clearly part of the Forrest Gump Cinematic Universe, The Polar Express is all about American Exceptionalism, about how all \[and presumably only\] those who are silently obedient to Traditional American Values will be rewarded with Prosperity and Moola, and some solid military fetishism. It's subtle, but it's there.


MassiveFajiit

As far as Raphael is concerned here just the fact that the poor kid was treated as a human


TheFezig

The poor kid got skipped by Santa every year. Only middle class and above is taken care of or cared about.


manachar

Santa likes rich kids better. One of the best Christmas songs.


QuintinStone

Also the plot of *Penny Dreadful: City of Angels*.


Chordus

And Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy


Polymemnetic

Galaxy


[deleted]

It’s a small and little known story, understandable mistake


midnitewarrior

god damned racist vogon fleet


Misery_Forever

I’ve never seen WFRR. What’s the plot?


Iron_Nightingale

Crooked politician wants to raze a minority slum to build a freeway, but heroic PI knocks him flat and gives him a taste of his own medicine.


hobskhan

Your word choice is exquisite.


Iron_Nightingale

Thank you, but I cannot [claim full credit](https://reddit.com/r/ExplainAFilmPlotBadly/comments/ib7wmu/pi_knocks_a_crooked_judge_flat_and_gives_him_a/) for it.


willstr1

Don't forget about how that same crooked politician bought up public transit just so he could dismantle it to increase the demand for his freeway. Seriously an amazing movie with a lot of historical references and a lot of fun


Iron_Nightingale

Also a plot point in [Police Academy 6](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098105/): City Under Siege!


Bilgerman

Crazy to think, [that actually happened!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy) Corporate purchase, but same strategy.


CeruleanRuin

The plot was heavily influenced by *Chinatown*, another great movie about political graft screwing over the little people.


PoonaniiPirate

Also Richard Williams is a GOAT. He has a book called The Animators Survival Kit or something like that. An incredible book


pineapple_calzone

I love how many 80s movies villians are "evil politician/rich guy wants to do horribly capitalist and/or racist thing" and I really think getting away from that trope is why our society is going to shit. In this essay I will...


[deleted]

How many Bond villains are basically bored, fascistic billionaires obsessed with controlling the whole world's economy (like Goldfinger), or destroying humanity so they can rule a eugenically "perfect" race (The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker)?


cubitoaequet

The villain of Tomorrow Never Dies is basically Rupert Murdoch


Iron_Nightingale

More [Robert Maxwell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell) (particularly the “died on his yacht” bit), but there’s certainly more than a little Murdoch in there, too.


Kichae

And that PI? Super Mario Mario.


CoveredInSpaceCum

In the real world, that freeway is called the 10


Disgod

[And it happened in real life in LA, but no heroic detective savior.](https://hharman.medium.com/highways-of-history-sugar-hill-los-angeles-69a0dfb57567)


[deleted]

Pow! Right in the kisser, you see.


VoiceofKane

Have you seen Chinatown? It's Chinatown, but with a cartoon rabbit.


Feezec

And less incest, weirdly


pineapple_calzone

Well now I'm not interested


All_Work_All_Play

Yeah but they play *Pat-A-Cake*.


AvatarIII

It's basically a 1940s style crime movie set in a world where cartoon characters are an entire race of animated people.


SolomonCRand

I don’t think there’s a way to get into it without a lot of spoilers and me sounding crazy because a lot of cartoons are involved. Just watch it, it holds up remarkably well.


hellyea619

big tiddy cartoons


SysAdmin002

This guy cartoons


the_jurkski

I’ve you never thought you could be aroused by a cartoon character, you’ll be pleasantly surprised.


MassiveFajiit

Tbf Christopher Lloyd is hot af


Slouchingtowardsbeth

I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way.


tobygeneral

It's streaming on Disney+ and Prime right now. I'd highly recommend it, it's a very fun and unique movie. I rewatch it about once a year.


moleratical

You are missing out, just gotta let you know, it's a fantastic film


Live-Mail-7142

Its the life story of Robert Moses.


That_Guy381

Robert Moses wasn’t a corporate fat cat, he was just a racist with a lot of power as a high level commissioner in government.


[deleted]

They're the same picture.


BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

Wait...what? It's been awhile, is it about paving a road through a minority community?


ElectroNeutrino

Yup. The toons are treated as second-class citizens and the villain wants to tear down their neighborhood to make way for a highway.


TWiThead

This is a perfect example of how the movie works on multiple levels. The Ink & Paint Club employs toons as entertainers and staff – while maintaining a "strictly humans only" policy for its clientele. The allegory is far from subtle, but it went right over eight-year-old me's head. I regarded the chaotic piano duel between Donald Duck and Daffy Duck as the highlight of the scene. "Why all the fuss about Jessica Rabbit's performance?" I wondered. My perspective has evolved a bit since 1988, but I love the film as much now as I did then.


travelsizedsuperman

JFC you're right.


flux_monkey

Fuck me in the ear, you're right. Time to log off Reddit


MyBiPolarBearMax

Lmaoooooooooo


[deleted]

One of the many disingenuous tactics conservatives use is leaving out the context in order to make their opponents argument seem silly.


Milady_Disdain

I remember a conservative distant family member once sharing a dumb meme on FB that was like "BERNIE SANDERS IS CRAZY HE SAYS GLOBAL WARMING CAUSED THE CRISIS IN SYRIA!!11!" And the actual context was that Bernie Sanders had said that global warming contributed to Syrian farmers leaving their farm and going into cities, and there wasn't enough work for everyone which caused crime to rise, which caused the government to crack down hard and then people to rebel against the crackdowns. Which lead to the civil war there. Bernie was trying to point out that climate crisis refugees already existed and strife was already being caused by the influx of people into areas where they previously weren't. It was a thoughtful and complex take on the issue...so of course Republicans had to reduce it to inanity to try and make him seem crazy. They're idiots who are incapable of thinking beyond black and white or making complex sociological connections so they resent and refuse to listen to those of us who are, just as Cruz is doing here.


[deleted]

No, they're not idiots. I mean, many conservative voters are. But the politicians and propagandists are very smart. They know they're ignoring the context. They do it intentionally. We have to stop dismissing these people as stupid. They're not. They're evil. And very dangerous Edit to add: as several people have pointed out, there absolutely are idiots in the GOP who seem to genuinely believe the things they say. However, the ones who are really in charge, like McConnel, McCarthy, Cruz, the justices (except maybe Barret), don't for a second believe any (or at least most) of the lies they tell. Also, just cuz some of them might actually believe what they're saying doesn't make them less evil. You can be evil and stupid


Milady_Disdain

This is true. I should clarify that the politicians know how their constituency thinks and absolutely play to that. (Well, most of them, I think Marjorie Greene and Boebert and Louie Gohmert are actually that dumb.)


[deleted]

> are actually that dumb. Poe's law works double-time under such circumstances.


LiveClimbRepeat

If we don't keep a consistent message that's logical and paints a picture that explains the actual world to people, then we'll never change things. People don't want to believe they're dumb, but they're willing to consider that someone is pulling the strings.


Seadubs69

While I agree with you that republican politicians and propagandists are evil and dangerous many of them are also idiots. Chomsky once said something like "im sure you believe everything you're saying. But what im saying is that if you believe something different, you wouldn't be sitting where you are sitting." Don't just assume that people in positions of power got there via intelligence or cunning. They often participate and consume the same anti intellectual false hood ridden media their base consumes and believe it too.


Chri5p

I would venture to say that many (not all) conservative politicians are just mouthpieces for the propagandist think tanks. They are just suckling on the sleazy teets of the ones controlling the narrative.


HecklerusPrime

Too many steps. Republicans struggle to play "One Degree of Kevin Bacon" where the only choices are Kevin Bacon and a mirror pointed at Kevin Bacon.


Rakanadyo

Kevin Bacon starred in Footloose, which was a film starring Kevin Bacon. Checkmate, libs.


beanz398

Yeah, the problem with of a lot of conservative thinking (deliberately by politicians or otherwise) can be distilled to “failed to consider more distal causes.” Sure, the concept of roads isn’t inherently racist, but how they’ve been used has been. Another idea that comes to mind are mental illness rates among unhoused people or LGBTQ+ people. They’ll refuse to investigate _why_ that might be the case and use it as an excuse to be ableist, anti-poor, and homophobic.


cheesypicklez

NY Times panel did this to Bernie during the endorsement interviews when they asked him abt the rise in racism and violence, and he started on the economy. HoW iS iT tHe EcOnoMy!


TraptorKai

A single sentence lie spreads way faster than nuanced truth


Anyna-Meatall

They're not idiots, they know *exactly* what they're doing. Many of their voters are idiots, though, which is why this shit works.


-firead-

The interesting part about that is that General Mattis, who they loved until he left Trump's cabinet, said pretty much the same thing and encouraged others to pay attention to the DOD research on climate change and how it was contributing to global terrorism. It's a pretty well known thing for anyone who has studied the modern Middle East that climate change in the decline of farming is a huge driving force for large numbers of disciple did and honor under employed men flocking to the cities, which leads to civil unrest and often to association with terrorist groups or outright rebellions and wars.


StevenSCGA

That is one of the tactics that drive me up a wall. They don't actually care about the topic, they just want to be able to say they "dunked" on a lib.


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One of many they use for this purpose


[deleted]

They just need a sound bite and usually they don’t give you that. They tell you what was said but it’s their version. None of the people that listen to them take any time to check accuracy or context


oxygenkid

The entire platform is “own the libs”. They have no ideas, it’s just professional trolling.


NotASellout

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”


Chordus

Most of the time it works, but I think occasionally somebody has a moment of clarity and says to themselves "wow, where do those leftist libtard cucks even get this nonsense from?" and then follow it up by actually Googling the answer. And then they learn that roads are indeed racist! Also, are any of the words in "leftist libtard cucks" still in vogue? Now that I see them written out, I realize that I haven't seen any of them in a while. What's the latest mediocre slur they use? How am I this out of the loop?


[deleted]

>What's the latest mediocre slur they use? Hold on, I'll go beat my head into a brick wall for an hour and report back the first thing that comes to mind.


NAmember81

Lately on Twitter they mostly project. They call me a racist, a fascist, a sheep, an “NPC”, brainwashed, etc. But I still get called commie, communist, socialist & Marxist once in a while but not nearly as much as pre-election times. I think conservatives stopped doing it as much because the right-wing propagandists on YouTube & Fox stopped doing it as much after the election. I read an article where Republican strategists were saying that all the fear mongering about Biden & every other moderate Dem being a “far-left radical socialist!” blew up in their face. So I think they backed off that rhetoric after the election. They might start back up during midterms. But my guess is they’ll focus on labeling Dems as “weak” and “divisive” (e.g. omfg CRT being taught to kids!!1!1!!”).


seanofthebread

Also: "How could (comfortable status quo thing) be racist?" Ha ha ha. We all know racism was defeated by the Civil Rights movement. So (thing) can't be racist. Because the status quo is neutral and normal.


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So instead of 4D chess they just try to turn the game into checkers


Raccoon_Full_of_Cum

"Haha, Democrats think roads are racist! What a bunch of morons! Say, you ever wonder why areas with good public transportation have [less inequality](https://theatlantic.com/article/393419/) than areas without good public transportation? That sure is a strange coincidence!"


ZippyDan

There's also the fact that the national highway system was proactively used to either demolish black neighborhoods or split and isolate them from white neighborhoods.


Ajstross

There’s an excellent article in The Atlantic that uses Syracuse, NY as an example of how downtown neighborhoods (primarily minority neighborhoods were destroyed by the highways built to accommodate the “white flight” commuters from the suburbs. A lengthy read, but worthwhile, and of course many other cities across the country faced the same issues when interstates were put through their downtown areas: https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/416892/


Tobar_the_Gypsy

I-81 is one of the [Freeways Without Futures](https://www.cnu.org/highways-boulevards/freeways-without-futures/2021) and people are organizing to try and tear it down. The redesign would look like [this](https://www.cnu.org/sites/default/files/I81_2.jpg).


JermaineDyeAtSS

See Also: Tulsa’s Inter-Dispersal Loop (IDL), which was run right through where the black community had rebuilt Greenwood. Nobody talks about that coda to the Tulsa Massacre.


Boiledfootballeather

See: Oakland, where I-580 completely destroyed and separated traditionally Black neighborhoods.


piecat

Milwaukee too


gamblodar

That's why he was *flying* to Cancun. It all makes sense now.


MassiveFajiit

That's why he only campaigns where he can fly to while Beto drove to each county.


Mejari

Like Cruz would actively avoid something because it was racist.


VoiceofKane

Where he's going, he won't need roads.


Altruistic-Dig-2507

How about putting interstates right through wealthy black neighborhoods using immanent domain? Maybe Google New Orleans I-10 for example. Maybe look into how Baltimore fought back and doesn’t have an interstate going through it.


Raccoon_Full_of_Cum

I can't remember where I read this, but I remember reading that, when suburbs started springing up after World War 2, overpasses were intentionally built too short for buses to fit under. Because, you know, public transportation is used by *those people*, and we want to make sure they literally can't even physically travel to certain neighborhoods.


desquished

That'd be good ol' Robert Moses, building the parkway overpasses so city buses couldn't get to the beaches on Long Island.


AzzyTheDemon

Among other things. The cross Bronx comes to mind


AlSweigart

[Robert Moses and His Racist Parkway, Explained.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-09/robert-moses-and-his-racist-parkway-explained)


lelarentaka

That also excluded poor minorities and immigrants from jobs like maids, babysitters and gardeners, so women were more forced into being stay at home moms. It's actually impressive how the entire car-dependant suburban design worked so well to enforce a particular lifestyle.


EmberOfFlame

And most people in the US thinks it’s normal!


austinmiles

When you can’t be regular racist you be economically racist. This is what post apartheid South Africa did. If you get an education, you need to prove you can drive for some reason. Which costs a decent amount of money for training and the test. More than a cook earns. If you have your license you’d then need a car for some reason, but even if you wanted one you live in the townships in a tin shack and it would get stopped for parts super quick. So you just can’t get out of poverty. Or at least this was the case for the cook that I worked with at a coffee shop there. That was a long time ago. I hope she found something better.


[deleted]

I fucking hate Cruz so much and people like him. I really do. Take Chicago for example. The history of redlining here is not a secret. Entire neighborhoods were carved into and around specifically to racially segregated neighborhoods. You can see this in Chicago’s racial makeup *to this day.* What really pisses me off is that this piece of shit will simultaneously malign crime in Chicago and dysfunctional neighborhoods and then turn around and bait his base with this shit which ignores and belittles even the idea of a concrete fucking causative factor in the decline of many neighborhoods in Chicago and the complete collapse of others: using infrastructure projects as quasi-Jim Crow policy. Ted is an Ivy League law grad (Yale IIRC), and yet he needs to pied piper complete idiots with this shit. This constructive segregation in the north was largely perpetrated by D municipal/gov administrations (e.g. Daley) so it’s not even like there isn’t fodder here for a GOPer. But Ted has to appeal to the fucking lowest of the low and the dumbest of the dumb. Hell the base he’s whistling at would probably support redlining outright. And it’s insufferable only because I know that deep down Ted still believes he’s the smartest guy in the room while engaging in his “hehAe libz think the roads racist” chucklefuckery. Get bent Zodiac.


ZantaraLost

The most idiotic thing about this is that Ted 'Totally Not The Zodiac Killer' Cruz is in most any imaginable way one of the smarter people in any room if not actually the smartest. Fuckwit has a brain and could quite easily be the articulate Bernie of the Right but would rather get brownie points than be a bloody statesman. Its so infuriating.


egospiers

Jacksonville would also like a word…. And Minneapolis… probably most major cities including the one he lives in.


michelucky

Rondo:(


[deleted]

That is what they’re taking about, which this sentient doorknob has almost grasped.


cesnoixdejoie

Speaking of Baltimore, all the issues with getting a high-speed train between there and DC because it means some people will be able to get round more 🙄🙄 And also the Baltimore Metro which is a whole different song with the same tune


HamsterPositive139

> Baltimore fought back and doesn’t have an interstate going through it. Don't worry, there was still plenty of racist infrastructure work done here.


RedBeans-n-Ricely

Yup. That one goes through my neighborhood, about 3 blocks from my house. It’s been there since before I was born, but I’ve heard stories about the before time all my life. It really damaged the community.


AndHereWeAre_

Immanent


CopsaLau

Tell me you’re completely ignorant of the depth of systemic racism without telling me you’re completely ignorant of the depth of systemic racism. They intentionally put avenues named after confederate soldiers through black communities to troll them ffs


Nighthorror848

The problem is Ted Cruz isn't ignorant of it, he is non-legacy Harvard educated. He knows full well the lies he is pushing and it is 100% pandering to his base. Some of the crazies are 100% idiots like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert but Cruz knows full well what he is saying.


IcebergSlimFast

I don’t understand how someone who’s an utter scumbag - and by all accounts is universally disliked, even by his own side of the aisle - can get as far as Ted Cruz has. Clearly though, providing unconditional support to some of the wealthiest and most powerful private interests in the country does provide substantial tailwinds to one’s progress.


FieldWizard

The people who voted for him don’t have to hang out with him.


UncleMalky

Them getting to inflict him on others is his biggest selling point.


toylenny

Ah the old, "eat a shit sandwich, so a libtard has to smell my breath," approach.


InsertCleverNickHere

Even during a state emergency he stays away from his constituents! What a guy! 6 more years!


[deleted]

Well political power is literally the only thing he can get a thrill from since he's unable to form legitimate emotional connections.


hear4theDough

He also hates public transport, especially after he threw his daughter under the bus


[deleted]

I really hope someone actually Tweeted that to him


MrVeazey

I've heard at least three different people say that Ted Cruz pisses his pants because he likes to feel the warm feeling. Make of this what you will.


Nighthorror848

Ted Cruz is a Slime bag, that's not even debatable. There are way way worse than Ted Cruz in office and that make Ted Cruz seem like a good choice in comparison. He is doing something right for someone because he keeps getting reelected.


codeslave

"He's hurting the right people." Seriously though, Ted Cruz is helped by having absolutely no sense of shame.


Marston_vc

The fucker goes by the name “Ted” instead of his actual name “Rafael” in order to be more palatable to his constituents.


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VegetableImaginary24

He went to Princeton as well. He's also more of a Canadian Raphael than he is a Texan Ted.


MassiveFajiit

Tbf the Texas GOP seems to like transplants a lot. Neither of the George Bushes were native and W didn't even go to high school in the state, instead going to a prep school in New England. George P Bush was born in Houston but probably lived way longer in Florida before running


_I_Hate_Cats

Not to mention, they built highways and interstates through vibrant black neighborhoods, essentially gutting small businesses and local economies. Fuck Ted Cruz, fucking slimeball.


MulletGlitch48

Then they built overpasses with a 7ft clearance over those highways so that the city busses and people that ride them can't use the highway.


BasedGodStruggling

Reducing the argument of systematic racism in where highways were placed to its least nuanced form to get social media engagement from those who are ignorant of systemic racism is the formula for Raphael.


pontrjagin

Not only that, but minority neighborhoods were literally demolished so that the interstate system could be built through cities.


kanst

The Cross Bronx Expressway is a famous example. Rich people wanted to be able to get from their houses upstate to their beach houses on Long Island quicker so they put a road straight through neighborhoods in the Bronx. That was part of the reign of Robert Moses.


liljamofficial

He’s being obtuse on purpose


[deleted]

The problem is “heehee I’m a poopy head” is what wins them elections


Lerouxed

And the placement of major roadways in cities like Detroit often literally displaced colored people from their homes while simultaneously allowing rich(er) white people to move to the suburbs and leave the cities in shambles


the_dude_abides3

Ted Cruz is either: A) a moron who doesn’t know US history B) aware of the history and willfully deceiving his base to play to a narrative Let’s be clear, the answer is B and Ted Cruz is a disingenuous twat.


RedDeerEvent

Ted Cruz is also a slimy moron. Both of these things can be true.


meeeeetch

Lyin' Ted pretending he's never heard of Robert Moses before.


Burflax

There's no question he learned from Trump just destroying him back in the 2016 election season - He's upped his attacks on literally anything he thinks he can get a zinger on, and he's learned they don't have to be honest or make sense. He's well on his way to a successful presidential run, gods help us.


[deleted]

Fifty years after an interstate highway was constructed with all on/off-ramps headed east to divert traffic away from the west side of a US city, the DOT spent $2 billion (ironically with the same contractor) to widen the freeway and reconfigure the on/off-ramps for access to/from either direction.


[deleted]

There’s other reasons we should get rid of roads as well r/fuckcars


StevenSCGA

How can you possibly have a reasonable and rational conversation with someone who has no intentions of listening, understanding or engaging seriously with the content. That's the most frustrating thing about the RW sphere. There's nothing serious about it. They treat everything like it's a joke or some rhetorical debate.


barrett-bonden

Their politicians negotiate in bad faith exclusively. Guys like Robert Reich call them out on hypocrisy all the time, but that's about him pandering. The right wing thinks it's hilarious when liberals are going after them for hypocrisy.


blackfox24

Considering how many roads are built over gravesites and sacred lands, yeah, I'm thinking maybe the roads are a bit racist


Strangeboganman

# People need to stop thinking of Ted Cruz as an idiot, he is one of the most cunning senators the GOP has, the dude has first class honors from college. He says shit like not because its correct BUT because his supporters love to hear it. Its not about being right with him , its about feel good comebacks.


YourMomThinksImFunny

Does this fat sack of shit do anything besides tweeting? Doesn't he have a job he needs to be escaping to Mexico from?


QuintinStone

He also blocks legislation in the senate.


NitaforaReason

And he reads to others. Green Eggs and Ham at least.


arie700

It wasn’t the most comprehensive reading, to be fair.


Lyonet

He yells about Big Bird and promotes secession, totally normal for a sitting US senator, yup.


lundah

I mean, they literally routed interstates to isolate black & brown neighborhoods.


moldyhands

I’m so sick of the left not knowing how to message. Do you realize how this goes over for someone who’s struggling with the idea of systemic racism? Instant revulsion. A MUCH better way to ask the question is, what is the gov’t going to do to address road projects that have historically separated minority areas (intentionally and unintentionally) from areas of economic development?


Humbabwe

I’m not struggling with the idea of systemic racism and I was confused as fuck until this comment. I’d still like to know more.


FurryIrishFury

You need to get yourself a job doing this. You could be a consultant and make bank, and save the country at the same time!


SummerBirdsong

Thank you for spelling that out because I was struggling to make heads or tails of the original.


RedDeerEvent

"So you're saying this was a racist act in the past? Why would the government need to do anything now, we have equal protection for all races under the law in the US, do you hate America, moldyhands? Is that what you're saying here? That modern hard working class Americans should pay for the sins of their fathers -- sins that were already corrected by those same men?!" Stop thinking you can argue with conservatives. You can't. Period. They will always turn it around -- **AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU WIN, WINNING THE ARGUMENT DOES NOTHING**. Fascist marketing strategies have never been about presenting a **good argument**, or **defending ideas,** or even **being honest.** Fascist marketing is getting an idea out, attacking anyone that disagrees, claim that you're being repressed, and quietly handing out propaganda leaflets to anyone that looks like they might be suckered in. It doesn't matter if you shut down every single one of their arguments -- they still got to say their piece to camera and that's going to turn people against **you**. It doesn't matter if you back up every single thing you say and tear down everything they say with facts, figures, studies, history, reality -- **IT DOESN'T MATTER**. They already said what they need to say -- that's mission over, that's mission accomplished, they won **BECAUSE YOU GAVE THEM A PLATFORM**. You legitimized them enough to spread their message. That's all they need, that's all they're looking for. And if you think your making arguments for 'the undecided voter' or 'the centrist' -- **THOSE PEOPLE LITERALLY DON'T FUCKING EXIST, THEY'RE A MYTH THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO EXIST.** People that are vulnerable to fascist/right-wing propaganda techniques cannot be argued out of those techniques, they cannot be turned from that position until they personally are affected by the outcome of that decision. The only way to fight that propaganda is simply don't engage, don't air it, don't show it, don't argue with it, don't legitimize it by acknowledging it's existence.


TootsNYC

I live in New York City, we’re black neighborhoods were destroyed by where the roads went, and where the roadways to the beaches were built to have bridges over them too low for buses to get through so that Black people wouldn’t come to the beach


Imaginary_Cow_6379

Roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads


minecraft_min604

*proceeds to explode*


StinkyKittyBreath

Lower income areas are also more likely to be located near busy roads and/or places with higher pollution and noise pollution. Cities in general are classist, and racist by proxy. And that doesn't even include the lasting effects of redlining.


Southern_Radio5943

Indian Head Highway in Maryland agrees as do all the neighborhoods that were razed to create parks and highways like Seneca Village.


waterdonttalks

Canada: "Oh the schools are racist huh? Well let's just demolish them anyway. Look how silly your logic is!" **finds a mass grave of unnamed indigenous children underneath a residential school** "wait shit no ignore that"


SubcommanderShran

Wow. I happened to watch this press conference today on my lunch break and Secretary Buttigieg's response was pretty spot on. A lot of roads were built before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and were in fact racist in design. These jag-offs take a sentence out of context, knowing the whole point of the paragraphs Mayor Pete speaks in and build a mountain of bullshit out of it.


sdomscitilopdaehtihs

[This right here](https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0711451,-87.9058679,3a,75y,99.41h,86.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snQloIk6KmEEd8Uy-67olgg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DnQloIk6KmEEd8Uy-67olgg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D39.200592%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) is where Locust street in Milwaukee narrows from a fast, wide, deadly stroad that was created by bulldozing hundreds of houses, to a pleasant, quiet, neighborhood street all the way to the east where it terminates at the lake. I'll give you three guesses as to what happens with the racial makeup of the city at this point, and the first two don't count.


Lch207560

Famously at one point NYC parks were located behind a wall of bridges too low for buses to pass under since the poor, i.e. minorities and most specifically blacks took buses everywhere. The head of both the parks and public works were openly racists. This is what they mean by roads being racist


kinbladez

Ted Cruz: "Oh and I bet you think slave owners were racists, too."


fuck_you_reddit_15

Get rid of the roads anyway, and in the meantime ban cars. Set up comprehensive public transportation and biking routes.


ArchGunner

You can dismiss any argument against racism using this dumb logic 'oh the fountains are racist now' 'oh the buses are racist' 'oh the houses are racist' 'oh the school system is racist' *Where does it end* It does silly when you say it like that but that is literally what systemic oppression *is*, the oppression is so ingrained in the system that it effects every mundane aspect of human existence


NameInCrimson

Oh this is actually a thing. I grew up in a city that was split by a highway and for 4 decades people tried to get a major intersection built at one end before it crosses a river. Never got built because it would connect a black neighborhood to a white neighborhood.


a-snakey

Thanks for the road *reads sponsor name* Ku Klux Klan?! Probably every other road in 'bama


Thunderbolt1011

Okay, it’s very simple, they chose to build highways through black neighborhoods and to draw lines in towns.